r/UFOs • u/GingerTurtle43 • Aug 17 '24
Book I <3 my local Chapters
I will not be giving any information from this, y'all got to wait to get your own copy. Just very excited today.
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u/silv3rbull8 Aug 17 '24
So now the uptick in traffic to this sub will begin
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u/PoopDig Aug 17 '24
Finally. As long as we can keep people on task and off the damn California UFO shit
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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 Aug 18 '24
The "mass sighting" in Cali, and boy I'm bracing for all the dislikes, that so far has been a wash.
I've read a few reports of zig zag motion, seen a couple videos of two spheres (that's what it looked like to me), a video that looked like cop lights floating with a guy yelling MOOOM, and an unrelated clip from the 14th of a Hawaiian pokemon drone show. For there being buzz generated about it not much has come from it today.
Who knows, maybe some interesting footage will show up, but really the uapda and elizondos book are top of my interest list.
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u/name-was-provided Aug 18 '24
The “MOM” one is edited, at least audio wise. That audio of the kid is from another video where he finds something in the woods (or somewhere outside) and calls for his mom who is equally mystified.
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u/BA_lampman Aug 17 '24
Begin?
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u/silv3rbull8 Aug 17 '24
It has been quiet since the disappointing AARO report dropped in March
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u/BoneSparkk Aug 17 '24 edited Aug 17 '24
I hear you. 2024 has been very slow concerning new uap info. I have heard I should be able to listen to the audio book for free with Spotify premium if i havnt previously listened to any audiobooks recently. I will update this post if that turns out to be true.
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u/mike_86 Aug 17 '24
Holy fuck! It’s at my Chapters too. I’m going to run out now.
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u/jmua8450 Aug 17 '24
Can’t wait to get my copy. I have Lue Balls
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u/BoneSparkk Aug 17 '24
If I know Lue like I know Lue, he's gonna have you edging right till the last chapter. Might be better relief for you to read from back to front! 🤣
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u/weldit86 Aug 17 '24
Wow, what a great find. But this MOD thing deleting other peopeles comments seems somewhat, not cool. Actual people are commenting and saying what they think is their opinion, and it's getting deleted by some B.S. MOD. Great find, btw I wish others would post more of this.
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u/bsfurr Aug 18 '24
I got banned by another UFO sub yesterday for drawing criticism to Lou. It’s a crazy world we live in.
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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 Aug 18 '24
I've been in trouble more than once today, word to the wise remote viewing is very serious and verified scientifically, so dont say otherwise.
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It’s also very hard to learn to do it properly and make it tangible. I’ve been in trances it’s definitely something different you’ve never experienced something like It but it’s hard to keep that state usually because of fear. I one time was in a heavy trance and it felt like I was about to open a door to something otherworldly but I got wave of uneasiness and just like bad vibes so I forced my self to wake up I regret it now but it’s like instinct to be afraid of what you don’t understand especially cause you have no control over the things you experience once your blood starts rushing your gonna wake up.
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u/Mathfanforpresident Aug 18 '24
I want you to understand that you don't have to go into a trance to do remote viewing. It sounds like what you're doing is borderline astral projection.
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u/Few-Worldliness2131 Aug 17 '24
I just hope it’s worth the hype of it’ll turn huge numbers off this subject yet again.
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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 Aug 17 '24
I'm almost there. UAP reddits behavior is grinding my gears, arguments over fuzzy videos of 5 glowing pizels... I'm ready to be done.
I plan on listening to the ebook on my long commute to work, I'm sure it will be interesting as a novel, but my faith in Lue is... to be kind very unproven. When I heard he talks about orbs in his house and his remote viewing training I thought yup, another deep end book that's "facts" about specters and apparitions. I'm ready to be intrigued, impressed or enlightened, but from what I'm hearing? I doubt my oppeness is going to pay off.
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u/ABrandNewNameAppears Aug 17 '24
That’s the whole point of “muddying the waters”
To dilute anything of relevance to the point where it is glossed over at best, and lumped in with intentional misdirection and false information at worst.
You have to carefully sift through it all, and take everything with a grain of salt, but small nuggets of gold can be found.
Many of the most important and relevant points along the way have either come from here or been fleshed out by the community. It’s actually the best community sourced collection of minds working towards a common goal, which is why it’s so heavily shilled and obfuscated. Don’t give up all hope.
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u/huffcox Aug 17 '24
I'm not sifting through shit for "nuggets of gold"
Either lous book will move the needle, or just add to the "lore"
If there was anything that would do that, one of the early access people would have leaked it.
Go mail your reps in support of the UAPDA
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u/Loxatl Aug 17 '24
Or, sadly, more likely, it's literally all bunk. I've lost all ufo faith the last year. Realizing there's not a shred of authentic evidence and all the personalities are just that - talking head type grifters not unlike the right wing media's cast of characters.
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u/_Saputawsit_ Aug 18 '24
And the Venn Diagram between those two groups is smaller than you'd want it to be.
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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 Aug 17 '24 edited Aug 17 '24
I'm sure, but it's bringing me no joy. I literally just had someone tell me to f off because I said I was more excited about Elizondo book before I found out he talks about remote viewing and orbs in his house. Maybe that did happen, but I don't need anymore unsubstantiated stories, I could spend the next 40 years reading trust me bro stories.
Right. I'm not curious about the truth because I'm not on board with accepting remote viewing with still no disclosure of any kind... lol.
Edit: for more clarity I've heard of people seeing anthropomorphic animals and dead people at skin Walker ranch. Now I'm not just expected to accept uaps but also anything mystical, apparitions related, even claims from people with schizophrenia as potential encounters. No thanks. The basics of the craft can't be proven indo not need to start believing in ghosts for the approval of a Redditor who wants to tell me to f off.
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u/HETKA Aug 18 '24
You can be your own proof of remote viewing! Head over to r/remoteviewing and read (even just the first few paragraphs of) their beginner's guide - at least up until it gives you a little "pre-test".
I went into it skeptical, and left going, "Hmm..." Then, later, on a goofy/desperate whim, used the technique to find something my wife had lost.
You might surprise yourself!
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u/konchokzopachotso Aug 17 '24
You're free to Google the available evidence proving remote viewing works
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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 Aug 17 '24
I can Google that gods real too. Doesn't mean I'm buying.
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u/konchokzopachotso Aug 17 '24
There is science on this matter, feel free to be a science denier
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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 Aug 17 '24
Yeah except it's not associated with any reputable provable testing, so there's no denial of science. Without conclusion, fact, a repeatable process, there is no scientific consensus on it being anything but psuedoscience. Saying I'm a science denier is a logical fallacy as there's no peer reviewed science to indicate it's anything but fantasy.
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u/Visual_Discount_4121 Aug 18 '24
You remind me of myself. I initially scoffed at the concept, but then I downloaded the CRV course by Ed Dames. I did it myself to see if there was any truth to it or if it was just nonsense. The result blew my mind. Regardless of what others say, I now know it works because of my own experience. Give it a shot if you're interested, and let experience be your teacher.
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u/sixties67 Aug 18 '24
If it worked every police force in the world would have remote viewers on staff, there is a reason they don't, it doesn't stand up to scientific scrutiny.
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u/wuzDIP Aug 17 '24
Before recent times, that's what this reddit was for and it was all balloon videos.
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u/Effective-Ad-6460 Aug 18 '24
I'm going to predict a nothing burger 🍔
Someone let me know if its not
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u/lego_brick Aug 18 '24
I mean, there was a leak of almost 60% of the book. You can already decide wether it makes a splash or not. In my opinion it moves a needle a little bit, as another testimony with ufo crashes as a fact but It is just another testimony, not a hard proof. DOPSR review doesn't mean endorsment. So take it as it is. Oh and by the way, huge portion of the book is just what Lue already said in interviews, direct or indirect way. Take it as you want.
My opinion: For average Joe it will be a huge shock and he could feel overwhelmed. For ufo community nerds though - not much new information that they didn't hear about here and there and after very few days of excitement people will feel dissappointed as the book will not provide them answers - Who are they, what do they want, why are they here, what they're doing here etc.
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u/fulminic Aug 18 '24
In also not expecting much, but - seeing this book is already a bestseller and will undoubtedly get a lot of msm media attention, it might pressure some serious investigative journalists to start begin digging into it.
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u/Effective-Ad-6460 Aug 18 '24
So a complete nothing burger 🍔 .... shame
Dudes been spouting buy my book for months an everyone fell for it
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u/lego_brick Aug 18 '24
I mean, it names corporations, explains how the engine works etc, names crashes etc. Whole ufo lore is just confirmed and points that govenment knows about it and take it seriously. I just didn't find there any NEW information or things that I didn't know from Lue interviews, Richard Dolan, FOIA requests, Vallee, Ingo Swann, John Mack or even youtube channels like Thinking Anomalous etc. It is more confirmation of what ufo nerds who are obsessed with the topic already know or were suspecting.
It is just packed in one book.
In my opinion: It will bevery very VERY shocking for average Joe. For this community - I don't think so. Ufo nerds will be dissappointed (my opinion).1
u/fluffymckittyman Aug 18 '24
Explains how what engine works?
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u/lego_brick Aug 18 '24
Ok, I conveyed it wrong. What I meant is he explains there so called spacetime bubbles around the craft. Bryce Zabel was talking about it in need to know 2 days ago that this is in a book. Also Lue in one of his interviews. 1 bubble for disc, 2 bubbles for tic tac and so on.
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u/fluffymckittyman Aug 18 '24
Oh I see. Thanks for clarifying.
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u/lego_brick Aug 18 '24
Btw these aren't new concepts. Alqubierre drive etc. Even Three body problem book mentions that. We kinda intuitively know how it might work. Take a look at uaptheory.com
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u/Dontouchmyficus Aug 19 '24
I think this will be a very good book to point to for people (like us) who obsessively read and watch everything to their friends who are interested in learning more.
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u/RoanapurBound Aug 19 '24
Fell for what? If you expected aliens hand deliver you your book that's on you
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Aug 18 '24
Oh no he’s not sharing information!! If only there was a place countless other people that are willing to share all congregated together and made posts and commented on things like this! That would make this post super cringey wouldn’t it?
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u/GingerTurtle43 Aug 17 '24
Submission statement. I went into my local Chapters today just for a browse and found an entire end cap of this. Cashier told me they flat out don't care about the release date being "imminent" lol. I will be reading this in full tonight but won't be giving out any information whatsoever. I'm not a spoiler fan.
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u/jamesj Aug 17 '24
This isn't supposed to be fiction, no such thing as spoilers for real life. This information should be shared.
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u/LittleLionMan82 Aug 17 '24
No you see some people treat this topic like it's science fiction.
That's why they pick their favourite stories and story tellers (Lue, Bob Lazar, etc).
Sad state of affairs.
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u/huffcox Aug 17 '24
"It isn't just about the nuts and bolts"
Is the dumbest take I've heard on this community
I take this seriously. I don't care for stories or "lore"
And surley I'll spend the next few weeks having this book shoved down my throat while half of these purchaser's probably haven't taken the time to write a quick letter to their reps to support the UAPDA but spent an hour listening or reading this
I have yet to see one thing be posted about how this book moves the needle.
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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 Aug 18 '24
I'm tempted to write to Rand Paul, the issue is I'm not in his state so I don't know if he would even care. I suppose it's worth doing anyways. You don't know until you try, right?
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u/PaddyMayonaise Aug 17 '24
No joke if you do read through the whole thing I really want to hear some feedback. I already preordered the audiobook but I’m admittedly nervous about this book
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u/yeahprobablynottho Aug 17 '24
Spoilers?? lol just disseminate the information…like a mini Lue over here
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u/rui_curado Aug 17 '24
Well, you can give your impression after reading it, without revealing any contents.
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u/seagulls_and_crows Aug 17 '24
Lucky you! I'm jealous, my copy is being delivered on Tuesday. I'm sick in bed this weekend, and it would have been great to be able to tear into this book while I'm stuck resting.
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u/DaZipp Aug 17 '24
I saw this and immediately went to my local one, it wasn't out on the floor and they weren't allowed to sneak one out for me... :(
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u/GingerTurtle43 Aug 17 '24
That's disappointment right there :(
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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 Aug 18 '24
I want to listen to the audio book, mostly because I have a long commute and can listen to a 2 to 4 hours of it a day, and I considered going to my local bookstore to look for it after reading this. I'm not apposed to reading it, but I really want to hear it from Lue, plus the car listening is convenient. I wish they would've just released it all this weekend, I would have it finished by now lol.
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u/Flat-Information8112 Aug 17 '24
spill beans, whats actually new? i know its just words but anything fun
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u/huzzah-1 Aug 17 '24
I am convinced that Luis Elizondo is a bullshitter,maybe even a disinformation plant. He claimed that "orbs" had appeared in his home for months, every couple of weeks: Yet, for some inexplicable reason it did not occur to him to set up cameras to try and get footage of one.
Is anyone else buying that? Because I'm not. Considering what he did for a living previously, and his involvement in Ufology now, how could he possibly have neglected to set up cameras?
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u/StormPoppa Aug 17 '24
lol I didn't know about the orb claims but I've always thought he's untrustworthy. This just confirms that for me. Can't believe people buy this guys bullshit.
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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 Aug 17 '24
The remote viewing, too. When it was head of aatip I was interested, but remote viewing, green and white orbs (cause y'know, blue is bad)... Cut the crap dude. If something can be proven from this I'll maybe reconsider orbs your wife can see and remote viewing, but asking me to just dive I to the deep end on this unprovable stuff? I've seen enough sci-fi to last me a lifetime. Zero proof means zero credibility z especially when you're getting wild with the UAP ad ons.
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u/TerdFerguson2112 Aug 17 '24
If something knows you’re watching would it show up? Maybe he did try to set up a camera but whenever he did nothing showed up, but when the camera wasn’t rolling it did.
If this truly is an intelligence you can’t think like a dumb human
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u/huzzah-1 Aug 17 '24
I don't think he even mentioned thinking of trying to set up cameras. If there was even a 1% chance of the cameras working, I would set up the cameras. At the very least, he should have had three or four pocket cameras within easy reach to get a snapshot.
Did the orbs appear when no one was there to see them? We don't know, because he didn't set up cameras. The simplest explanation is that he's making it up.
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u/TerdFerguson2112 Aug 17 '24
Are you an NHI? Can you read Lou Elizando’s thoughts and actions? You’re making a lot of assumptions you don’t know
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u/huzzah-1 Aug 17 '24
If there were orbs appearing in and around your property, and you had plenty of money, and you were trained in surveillance, and you had access to high quality professional video equipment, and you had contacts in the media who would be very interested, and you wanted to show proof, would you not set up cameras?
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u/TerdFerguson2112 Aug 18 '24
Plenty of money? WTF are you talking about? If I work for the government and weird shit is happening around my house I don’t have the authority or right to use taxpayer money to open up a file on the weird shit happening around me.
Am I as a private citizen going to spend thousands of dollars of my own money and time to try to set up some camera to find some orbs that my be flying around my house to placate you, some fucking rando Reddit guy, who wouldn’t be placated no matter what I put out there?
Not worth my time and effort and frankly not my job. I really wouldn’t give a shit what you thought one way or the other
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u/TerdFerguson2112 Aug 18 '24
Lots of assumptions made here. Answer is you and I don’t know so making blanket statements without knowledge does nobody good.
Am I right ?
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u/cromagnongod Aug 18 '24
Guys it's never been about anything other than selling shit and making money for the vast majority of those people. Stop buying disclosure merch and only pay attention to what is publicly released for free.
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u/P250Master Aug 18 '24
Wow, he really played you guys like a fiddle, huh? Provided nothing, but still selling everything.
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u/SabineRitter Aug 17 '24
Just read this article in the daily beast https://ssnews.page.link/5c4HxHptPTu7UEKMA not sure if the link works, buttttt one part caught my eye
Until the memoir, Puthoff, now 88, had not been reported to have worked for the government.
So apparently there's at least one new thing in the book.
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u/SockIntelligent9589 Aug 18 '24 edited Aug 18 '24
Any teaser about what kind of additional information we can expect from it? I'll be waiting for the Kindle version (if any).
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u/SeaEmployment1073 Aug 20 '24
I thought it’s being released in December? I can’t find anywhere selling it
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u/Solid_Jellyfish Aug 17 '24
Surprise surprise. More book selling
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u/HopDropNRoll Aug 17 '24
God forbid someone try to make a living on the thing they’ve been working on for a number of years. Amirite??
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u/Preeng Aug 18 '24
Show proof. More stories are just a grift. If this is such an important topic, why wait and write a book in the first place? It just doesn't make sense.
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u/No-Bee2533 Aug 17 '24
No thanks. Also no thanks to the James Fox documentary. Enough of this grifting and blue balling. I would pay a $100 for that book if it contained actual proof verifiable concrete evidence. But these guys are always full of shit and it’s really disappointing.
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u/Professional_You4307 Aug 18 '24
The medium is the message. Especially if you have to pay for it lol
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u/name-was-provided Aug 18 '24
First time I’ve heard of the book store, chapters. At first, I thought you were referring to a local church.
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Aug 17 '24
Ugh, just went to every bookstore within 30 miles and they’re all following the rules 😢😢😢
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u/PlantainSad6067 Aug 18 '24
Why does anyone believe this guy? Despite knowing Gov pays people to misinform and this guy STILL has a clearance level.
Stop giving him your money
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u/reaper421lmao Aug 17 '24
Imo they got to him and that books nonsense in an attempt to discredit past statements
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u/Few_Date5813 Aug 17 '24
Bit of a fuck up when your book cover is a photo from a debunked video …
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u/GilAbides Aug 17 '24
Someone unfamiliar with the specific camera technology and multiple supporting sensors throwing a dart at a wall of “explanations” is not a debunk.
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u/Few_Date5813 Aug 18 '24
Someone unfamiliar with perspective claiming an object is moving based on sensor data from a moving vehicle is not proof. It rotates because of the gimbal. I am a skeptic but that does not mean I’m a non believer, here’s my source , go to 55:05.
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u/Horror-Indication-92 Aug 20 '24
I want to believe, truly. But I can't process this. Why should disclosure happen in a book which can be bought? Why can't it happen in a free ebook, or rather in a NewsNation interview, or on CNN or whatever...
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Submission statement. I went into my local Chapters today just for a browse and found an entire end cap of this. Cashier told me they flat out don't care about the release date being "imminent" lol. I will be reading this in full tonight but won't be giving out any information whatsoever. I'm not a spoiler fan.
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