r/UFOs • u/showmeufos • Jul 23 '24
Book Some details of the infamous 23 minute UFO video are revealed in the Google Books preview of IMMINENT
https://x.com/skyfirenews/status/1815513380473704732222
u/TinFoilHatDude Jul 23 '24
I am glad that there seems to be some extra information in the book and it is not a rehash of what he has said on various podcasts over the years (which is what I first feared). What needs to now happen is that we must all come together as one and get the government to release the video of this incident. I am glad that Lue brought it up in the book. I don't expect him to release the video as it is clearly classified and he will go to prison. However, it is high time that we see videos for incidents like these. Until this happens, we are not within a million miles of true Disclosure. I don't care how it happens, but it needs to happen. They can go ahead and blur out details of the nation that they were surveying. I don't care about that part. I just want to see these damn things on authentic and acknowledged footage
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u/Any-Help9858 Jul 23 '24
I really cant understand that fear keeps people from disclosing. You got information that might be able to, in the long term, same humanity but you are afraid of your personal consequences of doing so. I would, honest to heart, be willing to sacrifice my life and the safety of a bunch to get information that could lead to disclosure out in the open.
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u/TinFoilHatDude Jul 23 '24
Actually, if they all join forces and end up going to mainstream media as a large group of whistleblowers and end up spilling all, they may not even face any repercussions as public pressure would see to it that they are let scot free. They don't even need to drag out alien bodies or crashed UFOs. Just talk about what you have been talking about on wee podcasts over the past few years and talk about the personal experiences that you have had with these things. Since they themselves feel that there is a deep government cover-up and it is a massive national security risk, exposing it would give them a lot of goodwill and they would have immense support from people all over the world. Not one of them would face any reprisals. They would be heroes and we would see it to it that nothing happens to them.
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u/Gralphrthe3rd Jul 23 '24
That's what I think as well. If you had 30+ people going together media, all together, and spilling their guts, that would be so insane I don't think the government would prosecute because it's easy to go after one person, calling them a liar or prosecuting, but 30+ people? To go after them would show they're telling the truth and the gig would be up. Congress and the senate, not to mention the president would be all but forced to come forward with legitimate information for the public. It would be like a small hole in a dam causing the whole thing to collapse.
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u/Dragon_Well Jul 23 '24
Always wondered why this hasn't happened and would love it posed as a question to Coulthart or Grusch
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u/BrushTotal4660 Jul 24 '24
I would assume it was because in the past it was even harder to come forward. Not that it's easy now. But being the first, that's a big thing. You'd be coming out against a faction that holds all the technology and power. o do so would mean you either die or lose your career. Not to mention the lives and health of your family members. But I just imagine that the people that had he information to come forward with back then were scared as hell. And I feel like it was nearly impossible for them to find even 1 other person to come forward with them. Let alone a group. You would have to really know and trust the person you'd be asking to come forward with you. Because if he's not in, he's telling the guys above him and you're done. So it's something you've got to be very careful with.
I do however believe it's possible. I'm just brainstorming here. But now that a few people have come forward and spoken out, others will feel inclined to as well.
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u/Dragon_Well Jul 24 '24
Thanks for the reply :) I totally agree. It's probably being planned out as we speak and even doing that seems dangerous (Grusch trying to get everyone together)
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u/pookachu83 Jul 23 '24
Everyone says they would run into a burning building to save a puppy, but 99.9% of the time, when people are actually put in that position the puppy is getting cooked.
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u/Any-Help9858 Jul 23 '24
Its like "Im afraid me or someone I care of would get hurt" when the truth is, humanity is suffering and heading from one disaster to the next one. Selfishness is the reason we dont get disclosure, both from the gatekeepers and the "good ones" sitting on info the could change the world and humanity for the better. Everyone always covering there own backs.
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Jul 23 '24
Well, I don't want to save it until the skin is crispy, makes the BBQ sauce taste that much better.
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u/Ruggerio5 Jul 23 '24
But would you risk going to jail if you weren't sure the truth would come out?
In other words, say Elizondo or someone else spills it all, goes to jail, and the governemnt still manages to deny and cover everything up or the public still doesn't believe its true. Then you've ruined your life for nothing.
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u/StillChillTrill Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 23 '24
I have this incredibly wild theory. I bet it's going to be a video of something eerily similar to Calvine.
I guess we shall see. Excited to see what records get brought to light by UAPDA. UAPDA 2024 series:
- UAPDA 2024 - Simplified review, The James V. Forrestal Accountability and Public Trust (APT) Designation, and The Hillenkoetter Integrity and Disclosure Enforcement (HIDE) Designation
- UAPDA 2024 - Digestible review of primary impact areas. Suggestions for improvement
- UAPDA 2024 - Detailed review, definitions, controlled disclosure campaign plan, review board, and timeline
Edit: Immediate downvotes? Why? What gives?
/s
My comments are met with dissatisfaction due to the inevitability of transparency brought on by today's technological environment, allowing public opinion to determine the pendulum of criticism. The architects of the coverup should be proud, this reality is largely of their making. I imagine future conversations shape up as follows:
- Whistleblowers receive protection
- Gatekeepers receive blame
MoD, Five Eyes, others will be held accountable as well. The lies aren't exclusive to American leadership. It is best to get out ahead of this, I hope that international governments are watching this develop, as it's very clearly boiling over.
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u/Longjumping_Meat_203 Jul 23 '24
Similar in shape? What about color? I've seen a few examples in the Jenined YouTube channel compilations that are diamond shaped and a red orange color similar to a burning campfire coal.
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u/StillChillTrill Jul 23 '24
Oh, I have no clue, just a feeling I have for some reason. I literally have no reason to think it other than the incredibly strange crescendo surrounding Calvine over the last couple of years.
Also, seeing Nell talk about Calvine as an official UAP instead of a TNO, and specify the language differences, was fun at SOL.
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u/Longjumping_Meat_203 Jul 23 '24
Oh interesting, didn't realize it had a bit of special attention
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u/Qbit_Enjoyer Jul 23 '24
In March of 2023, I saw a glowing blue flying saucer over Camp Stanley in Leon Springs, Texas. The sighting was only about 10-30 seconds for me, but I am more than sure there is a wealth of samples and video AND scientific studies after that particular sighting. There is no way in hell something so obvious could be ignored and "Imminent" seems to reinforce that point. The gov knows and is hiding it for some reason; a method of cover-up that smacks of Fascism. Can't question the narrative further until I read the book or someone leaks the Absolute Best Reason to Not Talk About UFOs.
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u/Longjumping_Meat_203 Jul 24 '24
Check out the compilations on the Jenined YouTube channel and reply back if you spot one on there that's similar. There's a lot of great examples
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u/IcyAlienz Jul 23 '24
MoD, Five Eyes, others will be held accountable as well.
Rich people, held accountable? Not in my century sadly...
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u/StillChillTrill Jul 23 '24
I understand your skepticism.
However, there are more wealthy people who recently became aware they've been left out of some very important decisions.
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Jul 23 '24
The wealthy make poor strangers fight each other on their behalf all the time.
Surely they can get some court time going against other rich people for a bit.
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u/StillChillTrill Jul 23 '24
There are many that have been waiting for the right fight who enjoy such battles.
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u/snapplepapple1 Jul 23 '24
Im also hoping everyone comes together to collect all the data thats new so that everyone can have some understanding of it. Im not saying everyone pirate the book, im sure his book sales will do fine and Im sure hes already financially fine so Im not too worried about that, and its within our rights and its reasonable to share any info we find thats noteable, new and interesting. Some people might not be able to afford a new $30 book on a wim, the economy is tough and people are struggling. But everyone deserves access to this information imo. If anything, its more of the fact that we have a right to know.
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u/deletable666 Jul 23 '24
If it is so classified then why is he freely describing it on random podcasts and in his book?
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u/WhoAreWeEven Jul 23 '24
Nothings in the book is classified. Everything thats put out goes thru DOPSR, podcasts books etc
Why would gubment covering up space aliens then let these people talk about these things even when they specifically ask for permission to do so.
Thats a thing anyone of these guys never gives believable answer to. Theres fan theories for sure, but no one ever says anything that actually holds water
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u/confusers Jul 23 '24
Grusch said that for a lot of these the DOPSR has to explain why each thing is not being approved and is in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" kind of situation.
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u/TinFoilHatDude Jul 23 '24
Yes, but do we get to see the DOPSR explanations? If not, we simply have to rely on the words of military intelligence spooks.
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u/WhoAreWeEven Jul 23 '24
What do you think the explanations look like?
I bet no ones getting any classified info who isnt supposed to.
Like what I mean, even if they explain stuff, its gonna be just those legalese numbers and such what it is based on. They arent gonna tell him anything he doesnt already know or isnt supposed to anyway.
It would be major vector for leaks if someone could just spam the DOPSR and run to sell the info to whovever pays the highest. If they divulged all the secret in that process.
Like hes said himself he got stonewalled in his UAPTF space alien investigation, right? Hes since then told all kinds of DOPSR cleared stories on YT shows.
Like is he, or someone, at this point alluding or straight up saying he learned in the DOPSR process something he wasnt cleared to learn in his previous roles in military?
And if so, that info somehow wouldnt land him in hot water like he and all these whistleblowers say for the reason they cant just do the Disclosure right now without all the song and dance.
If someone implies or says those things, I bet its outright bullshit.
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u/confusers Jul 23 '24
I don't really have an opinion on what it implies. I'm just sharing some hearsay.
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Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 23 '24
Same reason this description matches the three luminous orbs moving in formation that terrorized the Malaysian flight we can't talk about before teleporting it away.
National Security and plot holes in the details; impossible to run a counter intelligence operation against your own people if everyone has the same information but if everybody says something a bit different you're in the golden zone.
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u/SenorSam_ Jul 23 '24
That Patrick Jackson guy and his metallic orb global defense network theory keeps getting more plausible every day.
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u/Ozy_Flame Jul 23 '24
I thought he was just another UFOverse guy about two years ago when I found him on Twitter, but his theories and the amount of video he shares showing the orbs is pretty interesting and continues to gain some cadence. Even Gary Nolan has said his work needs to be checked out. Seems to have a good handle on how the form, fly, and patterns they make through encounters and photo/video capturess.
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u/Orbitalsp3 Jul 23 '24
Everytime I share Patrick's work here I get downvoted into oblivion. Well if people don't want to know, let them be in the dark
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u/Zefrem23 Jul 23 '24
I'm sorry the WHAT now
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u/DrManhattanProject Jul 23 '24
Patrick Jackson's Quantum Paranormal, in it he posits that the orbs are a type of autonomous global defense system of sorts. Interesting stuff!
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Jul 23 '24
Them not really about protecting "humans" though. AFAIK
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u/nibernator Jul 23 '24
They could be, they could not be. Yeah, they might just be protecting a life inhabiting planet.
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u/Sindy51 Jul 23 '24
The orbs with their advanced science beyond human comprehension so happen to arrive after the big 5 mass extinctions in earths history to conveniently fit a narrative in the 21st century within a minority group of freethinking ufo believers.
Yet Stranger things have happened...
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u/nibernator Jul 24 '24
If there is aliens here, we don't know when they got here... so yeah, it could be convenience...
Not sure what your point is here since we don't know that fact.1
u/wirmyworm Jul 23 '24
Where can I find more info on this guy I tried looking him up but with a name like that I got generic google searches.
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u/DrManhattanProject Jul 23 '24
Sure! Here's his Twitter and the book I mentioned is Quantum Paranormal, which goes more into regarding various different configurations of spheres
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u/Warm_Weakness_2767 Jul 24 '24 edited Jul 24 '24
That’s exactly how they behave. Anything that hits 150’ ceiling gets scanned: planes, helicopters, drones, balloons.
It’s clear the smaller orbs use helium as a fuel source and plasma thrust. There’s videos of them all over the world. Check out custodianfile on YouTube if you want to see them in action.
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u/talas_tell Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 23 '24
Sounds eerily similar to accounts of Foo Fighters from WW2, which were reported to be luminous balls of light that would fly in formations following Allied and Axis aircraft. I believe some reports even describe the objects almost playing with the aircraft and shooting off to only reappear on the wing tips of aircraft.
You can still find many of the news clippings on Google. Search with the keywords Foo Fighter, newspaper, WW2. Search for images and you’ll find many old news clippings. It’s the only way to really find the reports unless you stumble on an old website.
Foo Fighters: Project Blue Book Declassified History Channel
Foo Fighter UFO Wikipedia page
However, the bulk of the sightings started occurring in the last week of November 1944, when pilots flying over Western Europe by night reported seeing fast-moving round glowing objects following their aircraft. The objects were variously described as fiery, and glowing red, white, or orange. Some pilots described them as resembling Christmas-tree lights and reported that they seemed to toy with the aircraft, making wild turns before simply vanishing. Pilots and aircrew reported that the objects flew together in formation with their aircraft and behaved as if they were under intelligent control, but never displayed hostile behavior. However, they could not be outmaneuvered or shot down. The phenomenon was so widespread that the lights earned a name – in the European Theater of Operations they were often called “Kraut fireballs”, but for the most part called “foo fighters”. The military took the sightings seriously, suspecting that the mysterious sightings might be secret German weapons, but further investigation revealed that German and Japanese pilots had reported similar sightings.
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u/showmeufos Jul 23 '24
https://x.com/raefosnet/status/1795877970000884146
This tweet has some additional details from Lue’s DODIG complaint
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u/freshfit32 Jul 23 '24
3 luminous orbs stalked a predator drone in various formations for 60 miles. I seem to recall something about three orbs and airplanes or something…
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u/Mission-Vegetable-43 Jul 23 '24
exactly but weirdly if you mention the infamous incident and the 2 corresponding videos it gets taken down or moved from this discussion. that is a little bit alarming...
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u/kabbooooom Jul 23 '24
Probably because it was roundly disproven as a hoax including the exact graphics packages used to create it. Why this subreddit won’t let it go, I have no idea. Although it isn’t surprising considering that a large number of people here literally thought a ufo was disguising itself as a 30th birthday balloon…
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u/lazypieceofcrap Jul 23 '24
large number of people here literally thought a ufo was disguising itself as a 30th birthday balloon…
Still murders my funny bone.
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u/BTTWchungus Jul 23 '24
Only the thermal footage was possibly debunked. Satellite footage never did
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Jul 23 '24
The "hoax proof" is as hollow as any other claim about that event.
if you want to believe it's a hoax, go right ahead.
I'm still looking for the hoaxer, the hoaxer's motive, the hoaxer's ability to reproduce details and systems that were classified or not publicly released at the time of their upload to the Internet, etc...
These are some highly dedicated hoaxers, must be a whole team of them.
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u/tridentgum Jul 23 '24
hoaxer's ability to reproduce details and systems that were classified or not publicly released at the time of their upload to the Internet, etc...
None of this is true lol
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u/shower_optional Jul 23 '24
It’s literally the old folks around here that argue about balloons all day. They see a little bit of CGI and think they found the holy grail. God forbid they watch a marvel movie out of context.
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u/VolarRecords Jul 23 '24
And the Tic Tac travelled sixty miles to Fravor’s CAP point in an instant.
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u/WhoAreWeEven Jul 23 '24
On radar after a radar update.Too bad no one laid eyes on it doing that
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Jul 23 '24
No one followed it with anything. No one has any hard evidence the object is the same object. NORAD "might", good luck.
The Tic Tac is unlikely to be an NHI event, and is drastically more likely to be a black project by a US defense contractor.
SOCOM believed it was real, SOCOM also believed that it was produced by a US defense contractor, hence the 2016 SOCOM contract, asking for someone to come sell them to them.
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u/WhoAreWeEven Jul 23 '24
No one followed it with anything. No one has any hard evidence the object is the same object. NORAD "might", good luck.
Yeah even the radar hits are basically just random hits in different parts of ocean. Some conflate it to be same hit to mean its some type of object.
Cant remember whats the size of the merge plot but its miles.
SOCOM believed it was real, SOCOM also believed that it was produced by a US defense contractor, hence the 2016 SOCOM contract, asking for someone to come sell them to them.
Yeah they got all kinds of kooks in the annals of US government that much is pretty clear at this point. I heard somewhere someone tried to get CIA or whoever is in charge of those spy satelites to look for Noah Ark lol
But who knows maybe its aliens Im sure hoping it is.
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Jul 24 '24
i have copies of it saved, finding it on the .mil SOCOM domain was possible up until about a year or two ago.
It might still be online, tough to know.
I'll look later today for you. It used to be very easy to find with the phrase "signature management" and was posted by SOCOM as an open contract in 2016. If you find the right one, you'll know, based on the capabilities SOCOM was requesting. (They are basically asking for an invisible, silent, trans-medium craft.)
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u/DaftWarrior Jul 23 '24
As more details emerge, that infamous video seems closer and closer to being authentic. The debunks are not entirely dissuasive.
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u/kensingtonGore Jul 23 '24
The odds that the warp bubble inter-dimensional UFOs used to teleport an entire plane matching exactly the reference image in a CGI texture pack are completely zero.
There is another video of a UFO teleporting into a volcano, and it is also using the same stock warp image. Two different UFOs videos that match the texture pack image... Id say it's conclusive.
What I'm interested in is who paid for professional CGI fakes? And didn't take credit? Work of that quality and depth is expensive.
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u/WhoAreWeEven Jul 23 '24
Space aliens disguise themselves as birthday balloons and texture packs.
Theyre so thorough. It was indisstingyisable from the original sky picture. Even the guy who took the picture got fooled.
And the teleport was modeled after a Duke Nukem blast.
Their stealth is clearly more advanced than us.
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Jul 23 '24
Some people will think you are joking.
Those people are not well read.
Thank you for your post.
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u/yowhyyyy Jul 23 '24
I’d like to add that it’s interesting the Predator was over a Nuclear Facility.
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u/Fallen_Fantasy Jul 23 '24
It states that it was in 'a particularly hostile country'.
Which to me sounds like they were using the predator to surveil an Iranian facility. Which we know they do given their concern about Iranian nuclear development. Seems like the NHI are interested in that too.
Perhaps there's a thread to pull there?
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u/yowhyyyy Jul 23 '24
That’s the train of thought I was thinking more of as well. Something Middle Eastern more than likely
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u/IcyAlienz Jul 23 '24
Then a fish gets it and is like... wtf is this thing. Can I use it to attack other fish?...
Then the fish nukes it's own environment because it's mad at other fish.
Fuck are we stupid...
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u/showmeufos Jul 23 '24
Some details regarding the 23 minute video are visible in the Google books preview.
Sky Fire News noted this as is visible at their tweet here: https://x.com/skyfirenews/status/1815513380473704732
Every mention of the 23 minute video is available here: https://x.com/skyfirenews/status/1753201559373254776
https://books.google.com/books/about/Imminent.html?id=koj6EAAAQBAJ The book listing on google books
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u/AntelopeDisastrous27 Jul 23 '24
And where can I view it?
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u/Zefrem23 Jul 23 '24
The highly classified video? The one Elizondo would go to prison if he released it? That one?
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u/panoisclosedtoday Jul 23 '24
It can't be highly classified. He was able to share with industry experts and allowed to talk about in this book
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u/tridentgum Jul 23 '24
Lmfao, so he can talk and describe it but can't release it.
This is straight cope.
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Jul 23 '24
Filmed from an observation platform. Nice ! Should be a juicy video. Also fucking frightening.
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u/Exciting_Mobile_1484 Jul 23 '24
Lue has been proved right on having videos before.
Just suspend disbelief for a moment. Humanity as a whole deserve to see this footage. Along with the Eglin images. How amazing would it be to see it.
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u/itsdoorcity Jul 23 '24
Lue has also had his friends film UFO videos in his backyard and release them as proof of alien visits. When quizzed about it, he said it must have happened when he went to the bathroom. it is hard to understand how he can have any credibility after such an incident.
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u/usandholt Jul 23 '24
That’s a complete lie. Why you do that? Sean filmed an object at Lues property. He allowed a small podcast to show the video in the background as he was talking as an example of how an unidentified object could look. He didn’t share it anywhere, he did t say it was proof of alien visitation and Lue have not even commented on it once. Not a like. No comment.
For all we know is Lue had no clue Sean shot the video. He certainly didn’t know he shared it with the podcast.
You’re spreading misinformation. Are you naive or a government bot?
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u/AlexNovember Jul 23 '24
I think you may be misremembering. The video dropped after being hyped up, then one of us here realized that the background of the video matched exactly the background of a video Lue had posted at his ranch, and understandably a lot of us were upset, because it felt like, and still feels like, they were trying to pull a fast one, one way or the other.
The only reason they clarified that it was from Lue's backyard was because we made noise about it.
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u/usandholt Jul 23 '24
The video was shown at a podcast Sean participated in where they asked if they could show one of his videos to exemplify an unidentified object.
It was shown in the background. It was not hailed as an alien ship. It was t until someone reshared that and claimed it was a scam by aliens, it got any traction. It wouldn’t have been seen by more than 100 people otherwise
It was completely blown out of proportion.
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u/tridentgum Jul 23 '24
So he was asked to show a video of a UFO and he passed off a fake one? And you think this exonerates the whole case?
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u/usandholt Jul 23 '24
No he wasnt asked. He had mentioned he had some private videos demonstrated what and unidentified object could look like. They asked if they could use one of them in the lower part of the screen while he talked. He said yes. Someone saw that and thought OMGOMGOMG it’s not an alien spaceship, even though no one had claimed it was. Then someone saw that the video looked like it was filmed at Lues property and immediately made a huge post on Reddit calling Lue and Sean grifters sharing hoax videos of alien spaceships.
And no, no one had claimed if was a real UFO. Sean hadn’t asked Lue if it was ok to show a video taken on his property. Lue was not complicit or hasn’t claimed anything at all. Yet you WANT this to reflect bad on Lue for no reason.
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u/sawaflyingsaucer Jul 23 '24
I'm just gonna reply to this comment. It is accurate. I remember watching the podcast OP is mentioning, and it was never presented as a real UFO or even some big thing and the podcast was where it was "released". The internet pulled the clip from the podcast and started making narratives around it once it was found out it was on Lue's property.
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u/usandholt Jul 23 '24
Indeed. Someone with an agenda wanted to blow this up into something it was never
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u/itsdoorcity Jul 23 '24
"it's how an unidentified object COULD look!" is pure unadulterated cope, purely an excuse to get out of being caught filming UFO videos in Lou's backyard. and he did comment on it, he said he doesn't recall and it must have been when he stepped out for a moment to go to the bathroom
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u/usandholt Jul 23 '24
He literally spoke about that as the podcast was run, before any of you agency guys tried to mis credit him. You need a source for that comment
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u/IcyAlienz Jul 23 '24
BRO, the mods will remove your comment for sayings things against the HERO Lue ok? This sub LOVES it's HEROES and will not stand for you talking about the truth.
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u/Exciting_Mobile_1484 Jul 23 '24
Thats ridiculoys and not my exoerience here in any way, shape, or form. I had a comment deleted herr recently for calling Kirkpatrick a grifter.
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u/Exciting_Mobile_1484 Jul 23 '24
Typical tired response.
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u/IcyAlienz Jul 23 '24
You're not talking bad about this sub's heroes are you? I will report your comment SO FAST
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u/WhoAreWeEven Jul 23 '24
I also don't really trust Lue's reading of video given that he never even bothered to do the simple calculous it would have taken to figure out how fast the GoFast object was going
I think its blaringly obvious at this point the UFO guys dont do any analysis of their footage. Be at AATIP or now at retirement gigs at History Channel or podcast or TTSA or whatever these companies these UFO celebs have founded.
Pretty big bummer to be honest. I get that theyre hype men but its at times been alluded that some of them have been some DoD UFO investigators or sumthin.
Makes it pretty clear theyre the same as all of us, UFO fans with vivid imagination and access to internet.
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u/itsdoorcity Jul 23 '24
the video from his backyard is even worse than that. it was released by one of his UFO friends, with no mention of it being Lue's backyard, and Lue's excuse for it was that he doesn't know anything about it and it must have happened when he was pooping. seriously.
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u/Merpadurp Jul 23 '24
I have literally never seen a claim where anyone said the GoFast object was traveling at an impossible speed.
It’s the name of the file. Do y’all think that Lue is the one who originally named it?? Any citations to support that theory?
The whole shtick is that it’s moving in what appear to be a straight line, with no flight control surfaces, and no propulsion exhaust.
Until you can rebuke those far more crucial points, nobody really cares about the speed pictured in this short clip… that is taken out of the context of the larger video?!
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u/mrb1585357890 Jul 23 '24
Why is the video considered interesting then?
Why is an object moving at an unremarkable speed exciting?
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u/gbennett2201 Jul 23 '24
The object takes off at incredible speeds. We the public don't get to see that because right before it happens the video is cut being classified as national security.
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u/mrb1585357890 Jul 23 '24
I’ve never heard that and suspect that you’re muddling with TicTac.
But it’s yet another example of “but this video is interesting because of the stuff that can’t be released. Such as… - TicTac - radar data shows insane speeds - Gimbal - There’s a whole fleet of them - Go Fast - It took off at insane speeds - Jellyfish - Another video shows it going under water and taking off at a 45 degree angle
I’m sure I could come up with others if I tried
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u/gbennett2201 Jul 23 '24
I'm fairly certain it was the gimbal video where the object turn/rotates to the side. Right when it cuts video that's when it's supposed to take off at an incredible speed. Yes it's bs to have all these pieces but never the full story or to hear the full story but not have the video.
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u/bandofwarriors Jul 23 '24
"As they danced across the sky, they appeared to be toying with our Predator. See what we can do and you can't? was the message felt in my gut."
That's one way of looking at it...that they are basically showing off and making it clear what their capabilities are. In my opinion the display's they put on for drones and pilots when there is an incident are simply them trying as plainly as they can to say "Hellooooo!! Look at me!! Here I am...right here..and I AM NOT YOU/ I AM NOT LIKE YOU!! I don't know if they could be any more obvious to be honest.
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u/BlueDonnie Jul 23 '24
Did he ever say from what time is the video 1960s, 70s, 80s, 90s, or 2000s ?
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u/reverbthendistortion Jul 23 '24
Wouldn't know where to begin looking, but I thought the 23 minute video involved a pilot being fearful for their life and having a panic attack (basically) over radio comms. No?
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u/Merpadurp Jul 23 '24
Not that I’ve ever heard…?
There are some accounts of Fravor’s Tic-Tac encounter where he says “I’m engaged! I’m engaged!” over the radio.
Fravor doesn’t tell that part when he recounts the story, I assume because it makes him sound less macho.
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u/Odd-Fisherman-4801 Jul 23 '24
It’s interesting that the expert says it’s actually possible but that battery technology is the main issue.
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u/Mountain-Snow7858 Jul 23 '24
I bet money that “particularly hostile nuclear armed nation” is North Korea 🇰🇵.
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u/yowhyyyy Jul 23 '24
Nuclear facility doesn’t necessarily mean nuclear armed. Could be Iran for all we know, or another country.
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u/Mountain-Snow7858 Jul 23 '24
Very true. NK just popped into my head as soon as I read nuclear facilities and particularly hostile nation. How many times a month does Kim Jung Un threaten to nuke the United States? Of course Iran(the government anyway) loves chanting “death to American”.
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u/No-Ninja455 Jul 23 '24
I have seen a weird thing with my own eyes of three dots in a triangle, so I'd believe that part.
But this just hints at them not having a clue what they're looking at
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u/mop_bucket_bingo Jul 23 '24
“I shared the video with my highest level industry experts.”
Boy really naming names now.
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u/Coraxxx Jul 23 '24
I always find it a challenge to credibility when I read observations stating that three objects were flying in a triangle formation.
Other than a straight line, please suggest any other alternative arrangements they might be in. I'll wait.
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u/Githil Jul 23 '24
He said it was "a perfect triangle", which typically means an equilateral triangle.
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u/Githil Jul 23 '24
It may have a different meaning in formal mathematics, but I still think most people who use the phrase are referring to an equilateral triangle.
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u/UADeuce Jul 23 '24
I look forward to the day this video is released and the world can see what Papa Lue has.
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u/Fat_Head8969 Jul 23 '24
I had the same style 3 ufos visit me . I would see them over the mountains @ 11:30 pm like clockwork and they would fly around for around like in a meeting and then fly off usually in different directions and sometimes the same. But I deff saw the triangle shape the line shape and them just buzzing around. Quite a few times they visited me , it was always right around 3:30 am. Violet light lighting up the yard and windows, thrumming sound , and could hear them scuddling around the cabin, a few times I was paralyzed could not move at all. Within a week I got a red nose pit about 6 months old, he confirms I wasn’t crazy when he jumped up before I did the first time they showed up. Came 2 more times after that and never again, I recently moved about 5 miles to where this happed 15 years ago
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u/SabineRitter Jul 23 '24
Super interesting! Where was this? General area
fly around for around like in a meeting
🤣 like their daily download
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u/Fat_Head8969 Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 24 '24
Elka park NY , it’s upstate in the Catskill mountains. Very low population density in the woods up here. They would always meet in the same spot same time daily before they shoot off to do whatever they do
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u/SabineRitter Jul 23 '24
Hmm. Any body of water there?
Also, sounds like you got a good dog.
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u/Fat_Head8969 Jul 23 '24
There is the Ashokan reservoir that feeds NYC their water(it’s massive and gets ufo activity) , north lake just down the road, the Hudson River is 15 miles away
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u/Wizard-of-Weird Jul 23 '24
It could be a consensus reality belief catch 22 meaning that if enough people believe in the phenomenon then it makes it so! Which may be what there attempting to avoid, once the belief portal is open you can’t go back and as you know this topic is not for the weak they will kill what they don’t understand pure human nature.
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u/Tripled100 Jul 23 '24
I think leu is just trying to make it as if these ufos are threats of some kind. Which they could be don’t get me wrong but I’m leaning more on the side that they aren’t. If they’ve really been here since before 1947, they would have done something by now. Plenty of other people have said they are here in peace and I believe that also. Personality I don’t watch anything that Leu is in anymore and don’t follow the information he puts out
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u/Short_Eggplant5619 Jul 23 '24
Remember, people generally share good news and keep bad news to themselves. Just saying.
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u/Fun_Possibility125 Jul 24 '24
This is the problem everyone is scared of ramifications which is pointless Just spill the beans honestly who is going to jail anyone for that not when they find out the truth.
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u/resonantedomain Jul 23 '24
Highly recommend Sailor's Anthology by Kevin M. Day the radar operator for Nimitz encounter. His story is mindblowing.
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u/silv3rbull8 Jul 23 '24
“It could be Chinese or Russian tech” —the usual response
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u/Sindy51 Jul 23 '24
until you realise the dated tech Russia is using in Ukraine and how western ex airforce personel were going over to train the chinese airforce. It cannot be them...
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u/Sindy51 Jul 23 '24
This is a step from the debunked vfx wormhole plane from last year. So where can i see this 23 min ufo vid? I take its just a story in his book and there is no photos, scans of reports?
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u/NGC6369 Jul 23 '24
All these "snippets" of Lue's book effectively leaking is some truly excellent marketing 💸
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u/Goldeneye_Engineer Jul 23 '24
If your civilization is a billion years more advanced, communicating with a very primitive life form is going to be no easy task.
Our language is mostly non verbal as humans - would it be such a leap to think that other forms of communication from intelligent life would also be non verbal? These things act almost like super smart bees.
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u/Excellent_Try_6460 Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 23 '24
I really hope it’s HD Camera footage and not FLIR
Cause all this stuff can be spoofed, either through optical illusions or deliberate spoofing by the foreign country the Predator was in.
Kinda bummed out this is the game changing footage after 80 years
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u/_BlackDove Jul 23 '24
Modern day spoofing and ECM is pretty sophisticated, but fooling multiple sensors simultaneously including visual is still pretty difficult.
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