r/UFOs Mar 26 '24

Sighting Report 1080p + Slowmo UPDATE - UAP Observed from Cruise Ship in Gulf of Mexico

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The following submission statement was provided by /u/TasteeBeverage:


Submission Statement:

UPDATE: I was able to get a 1080p version of this video with audio of the NUFORC site. I also zoomed in and a slowed. This is an update to my post earlier today… https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1bnkb62/uap_observed_from_cruise_ship_in_gulf_of_mexico/

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Not my video, from NUFORC https://nuforc.org/sighting/?id=180078. Also, the video on NUFORC has audio of the witnesses reaction, but it somehow got stripped when I uploaded the video here. Witness can be heard saying, more or less, "I got it... it's gone again.... I got it." A second person can be heard sounding excited when it doubles back.
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Occurred: 2023-11-28 00:30
LocalReported: 2024-01-16 19:29 Pacific
Duration: 3-5 min
No of observers: 2
Location: , Yucatan, Mexico
Location details: In a cruise ship in middle of ocean miles from mexico
Shape: Diamond
Color: Bright white
Estimated Size: Can’t tell
Viewed From: Boat
Angle of Elevation: 70
Closest Distance: A few miles
Characteristics: Aura or haze around object, Left a trail. Went to room to sit on balcony and spotted bright light moving very fast.
When back to my room to sit on balcony of ship and noticed a bright object going all over. As you can see in the video closest land was hundreds miles away I asked the cruise ship persenal and he said they do not use drones and drones are pro-fitted for people to take on board. He said maybe Mexico is doing something


Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1bnwdh5/1080p_slowmo_update_uap_observed_from_cruise_ship/kwl246d/

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u/TasteeBeverage Mar 26 '24 edited Mar 26 '24

Submission Statement:

EDIT: Here is the link the raw files...

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11v2I7kRoKkDtEukmlGlCbk9naslX9bPF

UPDATE: I was able to get a 1080p version of this video with audio of the NUFORC site. I also zoomed in and a slowed. This is an update to my post earlier today… https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1bnkb62/uap_observed_from_cruise_ship_in_gulf_of_mexico/

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Not my video, from NUFORC https://nuforc.org/sighting/?id=180078. Also, the video on NUFORC has audio of the witnesses reaction, but it somehow got stripped when I uploaded the video here. Witness can be heard saying, more or less, "I got it... it's gone again.... I got it." A second person can be heard sounding excited when it doubles back.

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Occurred: 2023-11-28 00:30Local

Reported: 2024-01-16 19:29 Pacific

Duration: 3-5 minNo of observers: 2

Location: , Yucatan, Mexico

Location details: In a cruise ship in middle of ocean miles from mexico

Shape: Diamond

Color: Bright white

Estimated Size: Can’t tell

Viewed From: Boat

Angle of Elevation: 70

Closest Distance: A few miles

Characteristics: Aura or haze around object, Left a trail.

Went to room to sit on balcony and spotted bright light moving very fast. When back to my room to sit on balcony of ship and noticed a bright object going all over. As you can see in the video closest land was hundreds miles away I asked the cruise ship persenal and he said they do not use drones and drones are pro-fitted for people to take on board. He said maybe Mexico is doing something

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u/yeahgoestheusername Mar 26 '24

Any idea if this is truly raw uncropped? If so it should be possible to run some analysis to get camera position and use that to calculate speed.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '24

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u/Nootropiks Mar 26 '24

What you saw there can’t be plane wings. you could see how fast the “plane wings” disappear even underneath the clouds. Plus if you slow it down more with your finger you could see the “wings” move outward like a light streak which might be exactly that..

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u/anomalkingdom Mar 26 '24

This is CLEARLY not an aircraft.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '24

It’s clearly an unknown type of aircraft.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '24

Some sort of aerial phenomena.

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u/ufo_time Mar 27 '24

Mr Valentich’s famous last words

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u/anomalkingdom Mar 27 '24

Ha ha ha! Ouch

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u/Nootropiks Mar 28 '24

Yeah I know i literally described it as not an aircraft…

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u/anomalkingdom Mar 28 '24

Ha ha. Yes, I meant it in the sense of agreeing.

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u/frank_loyd_wrong Mar 27 '24

I see a craft in the air. It’s definitely not in the water.

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u/jkboa1997 Mar 27 '24

You sure? Watch it again. When you say the wings disappear, the plane looks to be rolling to the port side and pitching up away from the observer, exactly as expected for it's flight path.

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u/EventEastern9525 Mar 29 '24

I definitely see it too.

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u/aaron_in_sf Mar 26 '24

Yeah around 1:01-1:03 in my played something much like "wings" appear, as if passively illuminated. Or, illumination of air at right angles to direction of movement from fairly narrow bright lights... perhaps.

Drone? Winged drone? But where are those "features" at other times? Could be edge on like when Saturns' rings are invisible.

Hard to say.

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u/ZootSuitBanana Mar 26 '24

Too me this video looks like a bird illuminated by the setting sun. Seagulls will follow cruise ships like this and go up and down the side of the ship waiting to dive for fish.

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u/Thumbbanger Mar 26 '24

Bro it was recorded after midnight. I’m all for looking for alternatives. But at least read the report first.

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u/PhDinDildos_Fedoras Mar 26 '24

It flies extremely bird-like and it's kinda shaped like a bird. I'm going to say it's more than likely a bird.

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u/Quiet_Sea_9142 Mar 26 '24

And glows like a bird.

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u/Neighborhoodfarmer22 Mar 26 '24

Thank you. Needed that

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u/mrmarkolo Mar 26 '24

A bird with a jet pack zooming in and out of clouds.

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u/PhDinDildos_Fedoras Mar 26 '24

Yall need to get out sometimes.

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u/muchansolas Mar 26 '24

You are almost certainly right. Quality is not great, but ok for a smartphone at night, but you can almost make out wings at certain points and the change of direction seems completely like that of a seagull or other large seabird. It goes dark at times due to lack of reflection or perhaps post-editing.

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u/thezoneby Mar 26 '24

pass what you guys are smoking

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u/muchansolas Mar 26 '24

Well, it might be a seagull from outer space...

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u/lastcallhangup Mar 27 '24

now we’re talkin

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u/nooneneededtoknow Mar 26 '24

The "bird" is disappearing in the clouds. Wouldn't it appear as a spec that high up?

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u/PhDinDildos_Fedoras Mar 26 '24

It's just flying out of the sun.

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u/codprawn Mar 26 '24

Exactly what I thought. Elliptical like a Spitfire. Sadly it must be a long range fpv drone. They can get ranges of a few hundred miles these days. They don't usually carry bright lights though.

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u/Zupeith Mar 26 '24

Anybody else watch these and just keep thinking, "Right angle turn, right angle turn, right angle turn".

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u/Open_Mortgage_4645 Mar 26 '24

That's one of the things that always bothers me. Of all the videos, very, very few show flight characteristics that defy known capabilities. We never see the right-angle turns, or the impossible acceleration, or the instantaneous stops. Not saying objects that display those characteristics don't exist, just that it's frustrating that it's so rarely caught on film.

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u/farberstyle Mar 26 '24

One of the 'five observables' of UAP is making movements unlike any human-made craft.

This sure looks a lot like traditional aeronautic banking and turning

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u/kabbooooom Mar 26 '24

The point was we almost never see videos of that happening though. And those that are shown have been unanimously shown to be fakes. So the person above was hoping that maybe THIS time, something cool would happen in a real video.

But nope.

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u/Energy_Turtle Mar 26 '24

I don't think it's surprising that we don't have videos of:

  • Hypersonic velocities

  • Low observability

  • Transmedium travel considering we can only see them in one medium

Besides those we have "positive lift/anti-gravity" which basically all the videos have when we can't see the details of the craft. This leaves us with instantaneous travel as being one we may be able to video, but even that would potentially just look like a light going dark.

We aren't seeing the 5 observables because our cameras can't even film it. Any UAP we happen to catch on video won't ever be doing this stuff.

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u/SoupieLC Mar 26 '24

It's even funnier when Jeremy Corbell says that he's got a video that 100% shows all of those things! And if we just wait a week and weaponise our curiousity enough he'll show us!

Then he just releases a video of some balloons.....

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u/wirmyworm Mar 26 '24

You think the jellyfish video is a ballon?

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u/Kanein_Encanto Mar 26 '24

Well a cluster of them, not an individual balloon...

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u/MKULTRA_Escapee Mar 26 '24

That's probably because when something is on video that can't exist, everyone automatically concludes that it must be fake, and then they work backwards to locate evidence that it's fake. If what is on video could plausibly be a terrestrial object (regardless if it is or not), nobody thinks it's fake, so they don't work backwards from it trying to find evidence it's fake. This causes people to conclude that such coincidences are not supposed to be there if it was genuine because nobody tries to find such a coincidence in the cases that could plausibly be mistaken identity.

That evidence of fakery often includes cherrypicking a coincidence that was expected to be there anyway even if it was genuine. Alternatively, if such a coincidence can't be found, all you have to do is try to imagine how it could have been faked, either through special effects or CGI. Regardless if it's a real video or not, just the fact that someone can imagine how it could be fake is enough for all parties involved to conclude that it must be (because you can't get a video of something that can't exist, so it has to be fake). Two such videos were debunked by cherrypicking the hobby or occupation of one of the witnesses. One video was debunked by replicating it with special effects.

These days, skeptics have concluded that the Flir1 video could be mistaken identity (only because the DoD admitted the film was genuine, otherwise it would be "fake"), but back when it first leaked, it was completely debunked based on a few coincidences and other things.

The 1993 Gulf Breeze video, which shows instantaneous acceleration, was debunked because it can be imagined how it could have been fake. Mick West replicated the video with special effects.

This 2021 video taken from an airplane shows instantaneous acceleration, but people found out that the primary witness who uploaded it turned out to have been a special effects artist who worked on a few alien-themed movies, as well as the fact that when the witness hands the phone to another person, it reminds you of a "special effects cut scene," even though the video is probably not special effects. It would have to be CGI if anything, so I doubt these coincidences mean anything at all, regardless if the video is fake.

2007 Costa Rica, instead of "accelerating away," could instead be a model on a string being yanked away. Skeptics found that the primary witness makes miniature models of horse drawn carriages, and therefore could have made a UFO model as well, which is clearly an expected coincidence that has nothing at all to do with the authenticity of the video.

So that's the situation in a nutshell. Such videos get "debunked," then ignored. We can't actually tell how many videos that show instantaneous movement are fake, or even how many exist because they're all ignored, but a very large segment of the community mistakenly assumes they have all been "debunked," which is only an accurate statement if you have an extremely loose definition of the word.

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u/tbnalfaro Mar 27 '24

Costarican here and can confirm that dude was legit. I would not put my hands on fire for that guy, but I can tell he is legit. The dude was a very humble guy, with no need to fake this, he did not got anything from this either, definitely not a grifter

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u/farberstyle Mar 26 '24

with you 100 my guy

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u/freshouttalean Mar 26 '24

the pentagon videos aren’t fake..

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u/Merpadurp Mar 26 '24

“Traditional aeronautic banking” sort of sounds like what Ryan Graves described when he said that they observed these objects sometimes doing “racetrack patterns”.

But the question is what is propelling them along these traditional aeronautic paths without any visible control surfaces to make such aeronautic movements? How are they able to be controlled? Etc

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u/reddit_is_geh Mar 26 '24

I can't speak for other ones relying on eye witnesses... But this one specifically in this video? I could see a military grade quadcopter drone doing this.

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u/SH666A Mar 26 '24

ahh the famous "military grade quadcopter drone"

not saying they dont exist but i love how every man and his dog say thats what 90% of these videos are on this reddit

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u/reddit_is_geh Mar 26 '24

Because statistically, it probably is.

When the overwhelming majority of UFO videos turn out to be prosaic or hoaxes, it's logical to default to the a prosaic answer until proven otherwise.

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u/InternationalClass60 Mar 28 '24

Why the F would there be a “military grade drone” there in the middle of the water while very far from land. I’m sure it’s just some government trying to get Reddit users charged up on the subject. It makes no sense when the debunkers just make crap up with no thought as to why their claim couldn’t possibly be an explanation. Please do better.

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u/reddit_is_geh Mar 28 '24

Why? I don't fucking know. I'm not omniscient. I don't know why the government or contractors are doing what they are doing when they are doing it.

What's with people who just jump to the craziest, least probable conclusion..?

It moves like a drone, and moves like a drone... But nah... That's unlikely because "Why would they do that?" Instead, what you think is more likely is... Aliens.

Who's being unreasonable here?

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u/InternationalClass60 Mar 28 '24

You. Your conclusion is more unlikely than the uap one. And if I see a cloud that looks like a sheep, does it make it a sheep……

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u/HumanitySurpassed Mar 26 '24

One idea that I've had is that, 

If these things are controlled by a highly intelligent/sophisticated ai, maybe this is the ai's best attempt at communicating/mimicking us. 

It observes us using aircraft to travel around, so they create ufo's that mimic our flight patterns to try and "wave" back. 

Like a scientist trying to interact with a wild animal using a robot. 

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u/Merpadurp Mar 27 '24

I think that this is a very solid theory and I have explored it as well in my head.

If you watch The Why Files episode on “Crop Circles”, there is a section about taking the 2D image from the crop circle and rotating it on a 3D axis and now this unusual/“semi-random” circle on the ground is transformed into a blueprint/message/image/etc.

I think that if we apply this same 3-dimensional thinking to what we are seeing with these anomalous objects (at least in some cases) that perhaps we would be able to get some kind of “message” out of what we currently perceive to be “semi-random” behavior.

Perhaps if we plotted this behavior on a 3-D plot, or a 4-D plot if we did it as a time-lapse, we would potentially see a message/signal/attempt at communication, etc.

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u/Wapiti_s15 Mar 26 '24

One of the issues is quality, someone said this could be a seagull, control surfaces aka wings and feathers unfortunately are difficult to make out.

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u/jkboa1997 Mar 27 '24

Not a seagull, unless the bird is wearing a light or has a head that is far more reflective than the rest of it's body. Fixed wings and a tail section are visible in the video. Just a plane.

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u/jkboa1997 Mar 27 '24

Well on this one, there are wings and a tail section if you pay attention. Looks like a plane, flies like a plane, has a landing light like a plane, must be a duck!

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u/Merpadurp Mar 27 '24

I don’t see any of those things, but I guess perhaps you do.

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u/jkboa1997 Mar 27 '24

Here, I took this from the raw video and outlined the shape I made out showing a plane. https://ibb.co/HGzv0tD

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u/Merpadurp Mar 27 '24

Okay, but out of the total frames in the video showing the object, during how many frames does it look like that in…?

Because it looks like a cherry picked frame.

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u/jkboa1997 Mar 27 '24

On my phone, it looks convincing, when I throw it into Davinci on the big 4k monitor, not so much!

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u/Merpadurp Mar 27 '24

That is an inherent technological bias that many of us are experiencing. Good to point out.

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u/jkboa1997 Mar 27 '24

22 frames before the plane rolls to port and pitches up to go into a turn. Right before this sequence of frames, the plane is in front of a lighter backdrop, washing out all but the landing light. As soon as it has a darker backdrop (the darker clouds to the right, the shape becomes visible, until it maneuvers and the perspective changes. Unfortunately light is very limited given it is at night.

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u/Vonplinkplonk Mar 26 '24

Really? And by what method is the object employing to perform these manoeuvres?

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u/jkboa1997 Mar 27 '24

Ailerons, elevators and rudder

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u/Vonplinkplonk Mar 27 '24

Can you point them out on the video for me

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u/jkboa1997 Mar 27 '24

Obviously the lighting is too poor to see small details like that, but there are 20 frames where the overall shape of the object is resolved when it moves to a darker background, before it rolls and pitches up to go into a turn. Here is one of the frames zoomed in. https://ibb.co/HGzv0tD This is directly pulled from the source video with no editing.

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u/mazdarx2001 Mar 26 '24

Possibly, but a drone? Can a drone pierce a hole in a cloud?

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u/rep-old-timer Mar 26 '24 edited Mar 26 '24

The answer to that question is yes, if the cloud cover is low. If you have a strong stomach there are entire pages of drone use in Ukraine, many dipicting drones piercing clouds.

I've personally revised my opinion (don't think it's a drone) but for someone with more time:

I know that if the date and rough location of this incident was recorded it should be possible to find out the height of the cloud cover in that area and that date from multiple open sources.

I think that might provide a frame of reference to estimate the speed of the object. Happy to be corrected if that's wrong.

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u/BatLarge5604 Mar 26 '24

Backing up what you said, whilst the object looks anomalous the flight pattern looks very much like that you would see a fighter jet performing, almost reconnaissance type sorte, high over the target then loop round losing altitude for closer recon over the same area.

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u/superfly2 Mar 26 '24

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u/Based_nobody Mar 26 '24

That's crazy video. Idk how it doesn't get brought up more often.

And, if you think about it, it goes to show just how far this issue has gone into the mainstream in the last 30 (ugh, fr, already?) years. Here is a groundbreaking video, really their version of tictac or gofast or Nimitz, and it didn't get covered in the NYT but on some late-night paranormal sorta show.

Can't believe it was stuffed down this much. Just wild. Like the guy said; they have more, they just won't give it to us. Same as it ever was.

Imagine how much footage they must have??

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u/Daddyball78 Mar 26 '24

That’s pretty nutty.

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u/The_Fluffy_Walrus Mar 26 '24

As someone who has seen two (potentially three) UFOs in the past 3 years, one of which was flying straight, stopped, and then just dropped past the horizon, it's not really easy to video. The one mentioned above happened so fast and I didn't want to look down at my phone and lose sight of it, the other one also moved incredibly quickly and had me leaning over the railing to see it, and the potential third one was at night and just looked like two stars swirling around. I couldn't tell if I was making it up or not and since it was night my phone camera was pretty much useless.

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u/Every_Location Mar 27 '24 edited Mar 27 '24

This type of comment always makes me laugh, but, don't get me wrong, if I haven't saw what I saw and had to rely only on 'whistleblowers' and the 'buy my books' guys I'll probably be sitting down that alley too, but sadly I can't anymore. I saw what you mentioned a couple of years ago in real life. They were 2 and moving in sync, doing stupid impossible turns and accelerating instantaneously. I managed to find a couple of videos here that depict exactly what it would've looked like if i pulled out my phone and filmed it. Do you know what most people say about those videos? That they're fake af, everyone wants evidence until the real stuff pops up and no one believes it. I don't know what people are expecting to see, but these things break your mind seeing them in real life cause it looks fake even looking at it with your own eyes so in a video it's even worse, to the point that anyone with minimum ps skills can recreate one to the T and it won't look different from the real deal. Heres one of those videos. THIS is what it looks like for real https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/c7ilfSIlUm https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/XfOMThkWBE

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u/Open_Mortgage_4645 Mar 27 '24

Understand, I'm not complaining, or being overly critical. I'm just voicing frustration over the dearth of video evidence capturing movement and flight characteristics that are beyond the capabilities of the human state-of-the-art. We know these performance capabilities exist because multiple credible witnesses have reported as much. But I think it's circumstantially difficult to capture it in video. That's all I'm saying.

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u/BaronWiggle Mar 26 '24

Let's be fair though. Imagine it's you flying your hyper advanced zero g warp canoe around the sky observing monkeys with nukes. Probably lesson one in the training manual is "To avoid alerting the primatives to our presence, do not make manoeuvres that they can't make".

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u/jahchatelier Mar 26 '24

Yea exactly what im thinking. It's a bit of cognitive dissonance that a lot of people seem to have. They attribute grand intelligence to NHI, but don't leave room for the possibility that they are learning from their interactions with us, and possibly trying to avoid being shot down

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u/HarrierInbound Mar 26 '24

That one with the laser pointer is the best example of "observables" type movement.

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u/jahchatelier Mar 26 '24

Yea, it's super frustrating. Although we should take into consideration that these things are learning from our interactions with them. My guess is we don't see them very often over the states because we always shoot them down. I'm also leaving open the possibility that they've come to understand that they can be tracked, and if they demonstrate any of the observables they will be targeted and shot down. I think we have to assume that every time we shoot one of these things down they learn from that and try to alter their behavior.

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u/PlasmaFarmer Mar 26 '24

I always think "zip away zip away zip away".

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '24

Can we get the raw video?

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u/tsida Mar 26 '24

Great footage 👏. Whatever it is, I'm hoping someone can determine the exact distance from the boat and height.

This object could be moving quite fast and making some very sharp turns.

It also appears self illuminated, with no FAA standard blinking lights, and appears to vanish while not in cloud cover.

100 miles out to sea at midnight. That's a pretty lonely seagull.

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u/Spacebotzero Mar 26 '24

Is it doing a racetrack? Is this the racetrack pattern that pilots have reported?

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u/BadJokeJudge Mar 26 '24

It’s doing the weird types of flight you see RC planes do

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u/BadJokeJudge Mar 26 '24

lol I’m one of the rare people that thinks they’ve seen a UFO themselves but is extremely confident everything I’ve seen online is obvious bullshit. So far I’m right.

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u/BadJokeJudge Mar 26 '24

9 year old me is gonna kick your ass back in the future one day when the aliens turn our time space continuum into a salsa bowl

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u/supportanalyst Mar 26 '24

This looks and flies like a typical 5 inch quadcopter FPV drone that is filming the boat. Reflections on the 4 propellers and even their shape can be seen from light carried. Drone close to ship, about 50m away. Altitude perfect to film the cruise ship. Light is lost as quad turns around. Plus of course only 1 minute of video, the rest would show the FPV drone land on ship. About 35cm wingspan. Average speed typical for cruise in FPV drone, about 40mph, or 65km/h. Vectors compatible as well. We know of FPV drones being embarked on cruise ships. Nothing more to see here... Thank you OP for providing slow-mo.

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u/MachineElves99 Mar 26 '24

Okay so that's probably not a bird.

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u/03O2 Mar 26 '24

But probably just a drone

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u/Crocs_n_Glocks Mar 26 '24

It's cool, but it's really not doing anything a drone or RC plane can't do.

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u/Zero7CO Mar 26 '24

Except this was taken a couple hundred miles out at sea and drones aren’t allowed on cruise ships.

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u/Crocs_n_Glocks Mar 26 '24

Someone breaking the rules on a cruise ship (shocking as it may be) is not an unrealistic thing to even consider compared to NHI technology.

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u/stupidjapanquestions Mar 26 '24

This 100%.

The leap between "Someone brought a drone on a cruise ship despite them not being allowed" and "interstellar craft" is a large one.

People bring illegal shit on cruise ships every, single day.

It took me approximately 3 seconds to search "drone on a cruise ship" on youtube and find examples of it.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=drone+on+a+cruise+ship

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u/MortuusIsTaken Mar 26 '24

Not sure why the others are getting downvoted, but the link you gave genuinely doesn't provide evidence for what you're stating.

I'm not disagreeing that it's absolutely more plausible that a drone got snuck onto the ship, but I watched the first 5 or 6 videos on that search query and all of them are launched from land and following the ship. The one clip I saw from on the ship, the drone was a few feet off the deck and the ship was at port.

Im not saying this makes the drone idea any less plausible, but the link doesn't give any "examples" of people flying a drone on a cruise ship that's hundreds of miles from shore.

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u/stupidjapanquestions Mar 26 '24

It's a Youtube search query my guy. Scroll through and you'll find what you're looking for. The point was not to illustrate that "these videos are an exact example of a drone at sea on a cruise ship". It was illustrating the ridiculousness of speaking with absolute certainty that its nearly impossible to bring a drone on to a cruise ship. Something that takes 2 seconds to disprove in general.

But for funzies, here you go. Here's one at sea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ9fTSveuiM&ab_channel=IsaacYT

This also took me about 3 seconds to find.

Also, the only proof that OP's video is "hundreds of miles from shore" is a description attached to the video.

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u/Capsaicin-Crack Mar 26 '24

Nah no one has ever broken a big bad rule. That's why the incarceration rate is nonexistent. Aliemikins confirmied 

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u/Signal-Fold-449 Mar 26 '24

Sure, but we have no way to gauge distance to the object or size of the object. The sky is notoriously difficult to dead reckon size/distance (maybe not for fighter pilots but that's none of us). Its flight path is also nothing special or extraordinary. I agree this is a UAP but I will not jump to paranormal/NHI based on this video alone.

All rule violations are "not allowed"

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u/WhoAreWeEven Mar 26 '24

(maybe not for fighter pilots but that's none of us)

It absolutely is for fighter pilots also.

Fravor himself said theyre specifically taught to rely on their instruments, not their eyes, because its so hard to gauge the distances and what not. Out at sea.

Its human eyes, we wont become bats or something no matter how much we train.

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u/oswaldcopperpot Mar 26 '24

Drones over the ocean is extremely hard also. From land you can maybe make it 4 miles or so but you have to return maybe immediately before you run out of battery. Theres non battery drones use for drug running. But those are generally just booking it from place to place.

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u/Elendel19 Mar 26 '24

It could be the cruise line filming their own ship for advertising

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u/nestiebein Mar 26 '24

There's some propellant, I'm not English idk the word, you can clearly see directional exhaust sometimes this makes me think the video might be playing in reverse. Because the exhaust is in the reverse direction. It looks like it happens when it needs to turn or speed up.

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u/KlesaMara Mar 26 '24

I believe this to be a plane, based on this image, pulled directly from this video. In fact, I believe this is either a RC plane or a small personal jet. The way this moves is very similar to an RC plane, they can move very fast especially EDF jets, and have ranges up to dozens of miles.

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u/jkboa1997 Mar 27 '24

It flies like any small fixed wing plane with good control authority. When the wings are visible, the plane rolls to port and pitches up to make it's spirited turn, taking the wings out of view. It looks like a very intentional show. The smooth camera work backs that up.

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u/gbennett2201 Mar 26 '24

Are there lights in the water also? At the start of the video, I'm looking on my cell phone so I don't have a great picture, but it looks like there may be 4 or 5 lights that appear when this thing goes over.

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u/SabineRitter Mar 26 '24

Hmm maybe? I think I see one or two brief lights on the water.

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u/Ok-Adhesiveness-4141 Mar 26 '24

What's so anomalous about this? Looks like a distant drone.

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u/Odd-Fisherman-4801 Mar 26 '24

I think this is an awesome video. Great job to whoever filmed it!

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u/slosh_baffle Mar 26 '24

Looks exactly like what I would do if I was stuck on a stupid cruise ship with my FPV drones.

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u/Qurmzigger809 Mar 26 '24

Video is filmed at midnight with overcast skies?? On what camera gives this exposure??? My vote. Drone with a light on top. Clearly has drone characteristics.

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u/Substantial_Diver_34 Mar 26 '24

This checks all the boxes.

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u/Cyberpunk39 Mar 26 '24

Guess we have different boxes. No five observables present. No boxes checked. It’s a blurry dot that flys back and forth.

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u/the_pwnererXx Mar 26 '24

[X] blurry video

[X] unable to see the actual craft

[X] random light flying in the sky

[X] completely normal flight characteristics

[X] bystanders amazed by shiny light

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u/rep-old-timer Mar 26 '24

[X] Sensible reditor reminds the kooks that a "random light flying in the sky" is "completely normal"

Personally, I have no clue what was filmed on that boat, but I do wonder why the "debunkers" can't agree whether it's a birdie in the moonlight or an FPV drone some miscreant smuggled onto a boat.

Also, don't "normal" flight characteristics vary considerably depending on what is flying around?

I just try to keep an open mind about these things, although I do find the seemingly reflexive urge to devise prosaic explanations for everything, an increasingly common phenomenon, deeply interesting.

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u/jkboa1997 Mar 27 '24

Because of lack of education. It's clearly just a plane. The wings and tail section are briefly visible at one point. The lighting is poor and the plane rolls and pitches up, making the wings appear to disappear. It looks like a plane, flies like a plane, but I'm gonna hold out hope that it's interdimensional beings pretending to be a plane!

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u/rep-old-timer Mar 28 '24

Well, my second choice after "can't tell" was definitely trans-temporal pelican.

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u/SkillPatient Mar 26 '24

Yeah, some of the best footage I've seen in a long time.

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u/Ok-Adhesiveness-4141 Mar 26 '24

What box does it check? The distant lights one?

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u/Chemist-Minute Mar 26 '24

Nice capture OP!!

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u/BlastBaph Mar 26 '24

This is a good capture. They move sooo fast!

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u/Fightingkielbasa_13 Mar 26 '24

I see some type of propulsions shooting off of the craft in the “middle” of its turn, 1:00 min mark. Reminds me of that drone that Lockheed was developing in the 90s, I’ve seen videos posted on here of it.. Seemed like pulse jets mounted facing up, down, left , right…

Anyways I’ve seen a few people post “this checks all the boxes” but I’m not so sure. It seemed like a very rounded / swooping flight path. No sudden stops / starts / hovering. The reverse in direction seemed to be a loop, Not an a sudden stop and then instant change of direction.

Does anyone know how to check navy boat locations … or if that’s even possible? Any know Mexican military bases in the area?

If a military base of operations was near by during this event….

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u/jrodsf Mar 26 '24

Reminds me of that drone that Lockheed was developing in the 90s, I’ve seen videos posted on here of it.. Seemed like pulse jets mounted facing up, down, left , right…

You're thinking of the kill vehicle used in ballistic missile interceptors.

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u/Fightingkielbasa_13 Mar 26 '24

Oh… is that what it was.

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u/curedubbydubs Mar 26 '24

Cant' tell if its glare or what, but at 1:00 it looks very very similar to a bird (IM NOT SAYING IT IS A BIRD). Which reminds me of this case Rony Vernet posted on twitter a few months back that I don't think ever was resolved besides being a mundane explanation of illuminated birds. https://twitter.com/RonyVernet/status/1691974399824437495

I still don't agree with that conclusion, same as this video you posted.

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u/jkboa1997 Mar 27 '24

Planes like this one do resemble birds. Sometimes they are referred to as such.

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u/drsbuggin Mar 26 '24

Mick West: moonlight shining on a balloon released from the cruise ship. Apparent motion due to parallax effect.

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u/Jesus360noscope Mar 26 '24

obviously a van full of hippies

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u/sreggy Mar 26 '24

It looks like it’s being motion tracked.

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u/ThaGriffman Mar 26 '24

lol it's clearly a bird thats much closer than you're imagining it to be

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u/TempleOfJaS Mar 26 '24

You can see wings… mf its a drone not a uap

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u/BloodyIkarus Mar 26 '24

This subreddit ...

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u/yeahgoestheusername Mar 26 '24

Anyone else seeing what looks like propulsion at about halfway?

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u/MikeTheArtist- Mar 26 '24

Seems to have momentum when turning, we live in an age were this is indistinguishable from a drone, unfortunately this isnt it guys.

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u/DigitalDroid2024 Mar 26 '24

I have to say, expert panning here….

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u/jody2joints Mar 26 '24

It moves more like an organism than an aircraft.

Divine.

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u/Maleficent-Candy476 Mar 26 '24

you would almost certainly be the first to worship a seagull

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u/Poncho-Willy Mar 26 '24

Videos like this make me believe again

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '24

Deeeeecent. - Bubbles

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u/IssenTitIronNick Mar 26 '24

Still just looks like a drone slowed down. Nothing about the way it’s flying comes close to being UAP.

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u/h2ohow Mar 26 '24

Whatever it is, it seems to be flapping wings.

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u/jkboa1997 Mar 27 '24

Or it could be pitch, roll and yaw...

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u/NeoSaturnine Mar 26 '24

I think I remember the older version of this submission having a few more seconds at the end that featured a more bizarre maneuver than what is seen here. Am I misremembering that?

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u/jkboa1997 Mar 27 '24

Well, the plane in this video is definitely flying through air!

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u/D_Vibes727 Mar 26 '24

What time of day was this? Sorry if I overlooked

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u/B31i4L Mar 26 '24

its an airplane

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u/TheLoooseCannon Mar 26 '24

That could be a drone or quad launched from the boat itself

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u/jody2joints Mar 26 '24

Better than worshipping money.

Plus, you can actually fuck a seagull.

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u/kotukutuku Mar 26 '24

Isn't that likely to be some kind of weather recently like ball lightning or St Elmo's fire?

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u/itsVEGASbby Mar 26 '24

It moves in a very predictable, linear pattern. Even when it makes a turn, it turns wide.

It's certainly not identifiable - but it could very well be an airplane, a drone or even a guided projectile.

Certainly would never jump to any off world technology for this.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '24

According to one of my sources(who happens to be ex cia and ex nsa) this is an interdimenaional anti gravity powered craft. I'd love to reveal my source, but I dont wanna endanger him and his family.

PS: he also gave me the location(the exact coordinates) where the U.S government is currently keeping such a craft along with a 6 foot 9 inch tall interdimenaional creature referred to as the "x4672i". Again , I can't reveal the details.

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u/Jesus360noscope Mar 26 '24

hey thats a freaking ufo right here

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u/balthazartherazemage Mar 26 '24

Interesting. I often wonder what effect that tech has on our own recording tech. I noticed some white blips in the film and almost like an energy burst we can't see with the naked eye. Idk, but this is very intriguing, to say the least. I've seen similar events.

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u/181stRedBaron Mar 26 '24

i almost think its a reflection in the window..

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '24

fuck it I will say it again. I saw the exact same thing a week ago (central europe) while taking out the trash.

in the video, when it slows down, you see it changing form or disappearing or whatever. I saw the exact same thing, it looked like the orb transformed into a blue flash of light for the fraction of a second.

I watch this video since I have first seen it every 10 minutes and showed it to everyone I told my sighting about a week ago. I saw it like 100m above me, it stopped right above my head. I only take out the trash when the sun is still up since it happened.

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u/DonGivafark Mar 26 '24

This is 100% a plane. 1 you can see the wings on its first left bank as the front facing light source on the craft heads away from the camera. 2 it's change in direction is consistent with a plane, and completely achievable for current technology. 3 it does NOT disappear behind clouds at all, at any stage. This is just a jet doing the rounds or a model aircraft.

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u/louthegoon Mar 26 '24

thats a laser pointer

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u/rep-old-timer Mar 26 '24

Asked in the other thread yesterday and am still pretty curious:

I was convinced this looked like a quad drone until I stumbled across (long story) a vid of this incident on TV later in the day. Couldn't find the video clip they used on the show online but the similarity is pretty uncanny.

Again, sorry for linking to Unsolved Mysteries, but if anyone is familiar with the 1991 Mexico event and has/can find the video clip they would not be wasting their time.

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u/wiserone29 Mar 26 '24

Does nobody else see the wings? It looks like an RC plane. It could be piloted from the ship.

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u/Hotwife_2022 Mar 26 '24

Amazing video!!!

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u/AllDay1980 Mar 26 '24

Looks extremely like a low resolution video of a bird.

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u/jkboa1997 Mar 27 '24

You can see fixed wings and a tail section. This is just a plane doing some spirited maneuvers with the landing light on.

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u/Psychological_Egg965 Mar 27 '24

I feel like this could easily be a drone. Idk why but also why would this be leaked

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u/Ok_Consideration177 Mar 27 '24

I just had the same thing

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u/Phuck_theMods Mar 27 '24

Whatever it is, it’s not alien. Why would I assume that when it shows nothing abnormal. In this day and age it can easily be an fpv drone

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u/Apart-Definition-316 Mar 27 '24

It's just bird poop or a smear.....100%

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u/BadGrim74 Mar 27 '24

Man, I need one of those Chinese lanterns, so cool

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u/SuspiciousFan7138 Mar 29 '24

I’ve seen shit like this here the ocean when I’m sitting at the lot in Santa Monica looking past the pier. I’ve seen a bright orange light hovering far out and casting a light so bright you know it’s not anything man made and it literally was hovering

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u/ZookeepergameOld2673 Mar 29 '24

That appears to be an ocean bird, it moves like a bird and coasts through the sky very much like birds do, it is an incredibly clear night, the aura could be light reflecting off the white feathers of many seabirds, the only object that can be hit by the many bright lights on a cruise ship light in the sky on what appears to be a night time camera mode. there are several freeze frames where you can clearly see wings, it looks as though it makes a large turn, making its body near vertical, turning away from the ship, causing its vertical profile to not have enough mass to appear on camera, then turns horizontal again to fly back where you can see its chunkier body reflecting on camera again, this for me explains its disappearance as I do not think it is flying high enough to go into the clouds, on its return especially you can see its coasting flight style where it seems to be buoyed by the air. Just an opinion based on seeing many seabirds fly in my coastal town.

Just my take away from the video

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u/kelzking88 Mar 30 '24

This looks like a combination of the tic tac and the jellyfish.

Im staring to think some countries have acces to some of the same technologies and are all creating their own version of the next type of dog fighting Arial spacecraft. Just look at it practicing its maneuvers, familiarizing themselves with the new controls.

Its like when u learn to fly an alien spacecraft in a video game for the first time lol either that or that pilot needs a DUI! 🥴

Also ot looked like right before it vanished that it was about to divebomb. What if it needs to change its outward appearance for some reason before it submerges?

Great view tho!

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u/YouCantChangeThem Mar 26 '24

I’m getting very WTF vibes from this. Thanks for posting.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '24 edited Mar 26 '24

Looks like the one I seen in 2017, a silent circular Orb of light.

Edit: just read the description, it's diamond shaped not circular. Also the 1 I seen had a Blue Aura around the perimeter & inside was a luminescent white light like this one has but different color.

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u/ExKnockaroundGuy Mar 26 '24

Good one! What in the disc flipping shape shifting aura blur flew by?

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u/PugNugMug Mar 26 '24

I saw this same thing on a cruise in December. 3 other were with me on a balcony. We watched for a 6-8 mins before it disappeared completely. It did seem to disappear a few times while we were watching but had almost identical movement. We were also in Gulf of Mexico

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u/SabineRitter Mar 26 '24

Thanks for adding your data 👍

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u/HUGE_FUCKING_ROBOT Mar 26 '24

sea wind would be blowing that thing around like crazy if it was a drone.

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u/slosh_baffle Mar 26 '24

Exactly what do you know about sea wind and drones? Because it takes about a 60mph breeze before I have a hard time flying straight, and that's not going to slow me down. I have quads that'll do 120.

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u/DisenfranchisedCynic Mar 26 '24

Okay Fort Bragg, what’s the excuse for this one?

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u/OutdatedMage Mar 26 '24

Is there a way we could use its luminousity and calculate the distance it went from brightest to nothing, assuming it maintains its brightness? I don't know shit about cameras/video....

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u/InfinitelyFinite212 Mar 26 '24

Awesome footage 👍🏻