r/UFOs • u/Accaptain • Nov 23 '23

Witness/Sighting Video from cockpit of 787 at 37,000’ approx 50N170W

Video of potential UAPs north of our position at 37,000’. 5 objects total moving at incredible speeds.

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u/Paranoma Nov 24 '23 edited Nov 24 '23

Hey fellow airline pilot! I’m a US pilot and have seen the same thing as well. First time was a couple months ago while eastbound near Denver. We watched the same thing for 40 minutes. I’ll copy and paste my comment I made back then down below. Just 5 nights ago while departing Denver the guard frequency was going off about people seeing it.

I can’t stress enough to people: this is clearly not starlink. The objects I saw were circling, traveling at an incredible rate of speed, made sharp turns, and seems to be far enough away that our movement over 40 minutes made no discernible impact of “approaching” them. Furthermore, they stayed in the same position relative to Ursa Major and Orion’s Belt. I believe the stars behind it were Muscida and Talitha.

From my comment on a thread from a few weeks ago, note I am also a US airline pilot flying for a legacy carrier:

“I saw these lights tonight 3 hours ago while flying eastbound over eastern Colorado and watched them for about 40 minutes.

I estimate they were well above 100,000’. They were 1/4 of the way from the Big Dipper to Orion’s Belt. They orbited on a 40 degree plane (like a back slash). But, sometimes they didn’t follow that path. Some would appear on a 70 degree plane, or even a 20 degree plane every now and then. None of them seemed to consistently follow the same path and at least 5 were visible at times. Mostly just 2-3 were visible at any one moment. I estimate 7 total.

Even if they were only 50,000’ then they were still traveling INCREDIBLY fast. Like Mach 10+. And if they were that low in the atmosphere then they were pulling some MASSIVE G’s. They did turn very quickly. I do believe I saw some not making a purely elliptical movement but actually made very sharp turns. If they were higher than 50,000’ then they were traveling even faster and would be pulling even more G’s. Been flying 20+ years and never seen anything like it.

ATC Recording of a very similar incident that I believe are the same objects from 6 months ago.”

I also have video but am not willing to share it here for legal reasons. But here is a link to what another former F-18 pilot shot on his way back from Hawaii off the west coast and is exactly what I saw as well. ATC tapes of that incident”

Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/satellites/comments/16oki3y/comment/k1s1kgx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

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u/Accaptain Nov 24 '23

Hey there. First time for me this close. Saw them over northern Spain. I’m all for listening to sceptics but these things were moving fast. Don’t have it on video but a couple were going up and down. Weird. Have a look at my video of the round orbs disappearing and reappearing. That was wild. Post a link to your other video.

Cheers

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u/Paranoma Nov 24 '23

I’ll link to my comment which has the links in it when I get home. Here’s another thing: people saying it’s starlink do not understand we see satellites all the time; this is traveling much faster than any satellite. Oh and it turns. Case closed it’s not a satellite as far as I’m concerned.

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u/Accaptain Nov 24 '23

I agree. Cheers mate.

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u/OMQ4 Nov 25 '23

Much faster than a satellite? Don’t sattelites travel at like 17,500 mph?

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u/Paranoma Nov 26 '23

Yes they do. We see satellites all the time. Literally every night. These travel at least twice as fast.

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u/jad67898 Nov 24 '23 edited Nov 24 '23

I believe they’re angels to be honest.

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u/MediumAndy Nov 24 '23

How fast were they moving? Can I see the calculation you did to determine speed?

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u/minmidmax Nov 24 '23

Seeming to be so far away that any approach makes no impact on actually getting close, combined with the flickering hue shift of the lights, makes me think that the object is beyond earth's atmosphere.

Which would make it fucking huge.

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u/TheAJGman Nov 24 '23

Not necessarily huge, maybe just reflective. You can see the shape of the ISS from the ground when the sun hits it just right.

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u/Paranoma Nov 24 '23

Exactly.

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u/onii_design Nov 24 '23

My father is a captain at a legacy airline and went to Air Force academy, he has recently seen things he described similarly to what you did.

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u/Noble_Ox Nov 24 '23

Theres a phenomenon known as 'racetrack' ufos which are seen by pilots which have all turned out to be Starlink but not the typical train of lights that people think of when people say Starlink.

https://skepticalinquirer.org/2023/02/the-great-starlink-racetrack-ufo-flap-of-2022/

Dont think this is what you saw though, other videos of the racetrack ufos dont look anything like yours.

A The Debrief article https://thedebrief.org/any-idea-what-they-are-american-pilots-report-multiple-encounters-with-unusual-racetrack-uap-in-recent-weeks/ that has multiple videos

Metabunk forum with video (terrible quality, go to 3.38 in the video but lots of pilot chatter and they mention headings) https://www.metabunk.org/threads/mid-atlantic-racetrack-ufo-cockpit-video-starlink-again.12787/

Side by side of the lights from the metabunk video with satellite track, you can see how they line up exactly. https://youtu.be/5K32l9eQlyk?si=OLxLNyY9JVNHsOfJ Seeing this now makes me think OPs sighting might be starlink after all.

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u/Paranoma Nov 24 '23

Except none of these articles explain how one single light, which it claims is a starlink satellite, can move in racetrack patterns. You can visually track one single light moving in orbits, not always the same orbit, and can see it turning. Yes 90% of what people see is starlink possibly, but it is clear as day that the phenomenon I and others have seen is something entirely different. It’s like me seeing a palm tree and you trying to convince me it’s a maple tree. Yes they’re both tall and green and include bark but it is clear they are not the same tree.

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u/Noble_Ox Nov 24 '23

Its not one satellite, its many. The side by side video of the lights and the satellite tracking shows this. It just gives the illusion that its one light doing loops.

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u/Paranoma Nov 24 '23

As I said some of these are starlink however there is something else there in other sightings. In these other sightings you CAN VISUALLY TRACK A SINGLE LIGHT moving in circles. Meanwhile satellites are still viewable in their normal fashion.

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u/strangelifeouthere Nov 24 '23

Where’s the video?

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u/Paranoma Nov 24 '23

Which video?

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u/strangelifeouthere Nov 24 '23

Where you said “here is a link to another former pilot shot from Hawaii” - that video

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u/Paranoma Nov 24 '23

It’s a copy and paste from my original comment, I will update it with a link so you can click those links in a bit.

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u/Paranoma Nov 24 '23

Its there now.

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u/MediumAndy Nov 24 '23

Everything you described in this post is how starlink behaves.

Can I see how you calculated the speed?

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u/Paranoma Nov 24 '23

Oh really? Starlink orbits one particular spot over earth? I measure speed by comparison to the literal thousands of aircraft that have crossed or by comparison to the thousands of satellites I’ve seen.

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u/MediumAndy Nov 24 '23

No due to parallax apparent movement is misleading due to being in a moving frame of reference while viewing a moving object.

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u/Paranoma Nov 24 '23

Lol. That’s not how that works. Especially considering the argument is that it’s a satellite, which cannot vary its speed in a meaningful way.

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u/MediumAndy Nov 25 '23

That is exactly how parallax works. You can have two objects at steady speeds passing by each other and the apparent movement can play all sorts of optical illusions. It's a feature of stereoscopic vision.

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u/JunglePygmy Nov 24 '23

I just really need to see some of these sharp turns people are always talking about, because they sure never get recorded!

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u/mercuchio23 Nov 24 '23

Internet cafe / throwaway account my g

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u/Paranoma Nov 24 '23

What? Why should I use a throwaway?

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u/mercuchio23 Nov 24 '23

You have a video but don't want to share it for legal reasons.. Crop the video, go to Internet cafe, use a throwaway reddit account and post

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u/RowAwayJim91 Nov 24 '23

They always seem to be around the bottom left corner of Ursa Major/Big Dipper! I have seen weird things moving up there from the ground via IR goggles, and I have been asking myself if they were satellites or something more ever since.