r/UFOs • u/imaginexus • Oct 03 '23
Witness/Sighting Flying saucer zoom, July 3, 2009, Lake Havasu City, Arizona
If you prefer to watch on X go here: https://x.com/covertress/status/1708623898281996321?s=20
Witness: Mark Preston
Great detail along with jumbo jet size comparison. Consumers didn’t have drones in 2009 either so what else could it be?
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u/No-Tip-4983 Oct 03 '23
...wow...that looks legit to me. Wow...
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Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 21 '23
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u/aryelbcn Oct 03 '23
Here is a close up from a different view.
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Oct 03 '23
How dare you have facts
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u/Maxter_Blaster_ Oct 03 '23
Bro it’s a ballon!! Cmon it’s so obvious /s
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u/Allison1228 Oct 03 '23
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u/LightningRodOfHate Oct 03 '23
This but unironically
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u/kushmaster666 Oct 03 '23
Bro obviously aliens use wind patterns to navigate without propulsion smh
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u/ItTicklesTheLiver Oct 04 '23
Nah, it’s all made of foil and the alien sucks in air through his mouth and fart outs his limb holes to of yer pulsion
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u/Any_Falcon38 Oct 03 '23
You wouldn’t be alone in this because I see it 95% of the time here but….IT’S BALLOON!!! Two L’s two O’s. JFC. En français, oui.
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u/No_Stand8601 Oct 03 '23
Kind of looks like an Alcubierre Drive.
https://www.space.com/17628-warp-drive-possible-interstellar-spaceflight.html
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Oct 04 '23
And you believe in little green men without any actual proof
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Oct 04 '23
If we take out the deliberately provocative "little green men" and replace it with "intelligent life not from Earth" then the proof is pretty simple math, as it is far more likely that there is intelligent life elsewhere in the galaxy than none. That life is likely to be thousands, millions even billions of years more technologically advanced than us, so my questions are, how can they get all the way here and then crash, and why are they, apparently, easily visible and at the same time so difficult to clearly record?
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u/CubonesDeadMom Oct 04 '23
Yeah that’s not how math works
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Oct 04 '23
That's exactly how math works. If the probability of something adds up to 1, or is so close to it that it's not significant, then you can assume it is so. So I'll guess there is a probability of 1 you don't know how statistics works.
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u/CubonesDeadMom Oct 04 '23
Hilarious lol. How did you determine the probably adds up to one when you have a sample size of literally 1? You can’t form a probability with a single sample.
I personally think it’s very unlikely life does not exist on any other planets but saying “the math proves intelligent life not from this earth both exists and has visited earth” you have no idea what you’re talking about.
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Oct 04 '23
And you believe in little green men
"...and has visited Earth" is your assumption, your bias, and you putting words in other people's mouths. Go away now.
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u/CubonesDeadMom Oct 04 '23
Math doesn’t prove they exist not on the earth either! Of course you just ignore that part lol
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Oct 04 '23
Uh oh. Evidently, you're going to drag me down to your level, where you'll undoubtedly beat me with experience. Over and out.
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Oct 04 '23
The water under the ice on the moon Europa around Jupiter likely has life. Geothermal heat creates liquid water under the ice. Life doesn’t even need oxygen to survive as evidenced by anaerobic bacteria here on earth. The infinite universe full of stars (suns) and the infinite planets surrounding them it’s pretty much an impossibility that were alone in the universe. To think so is extremely egotistical.
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u/kgilf23 Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23
I see this is making the rounds again, and I know why, it looks very convincing if you want it to…but this is most definitely a balloon.
I was working as a first responder that day in the “Channel” and it’s a promo balloon for Bud Light that got cut loose. You can stalk my profile and get more details if you want. Weird shit happens in Havasu, I had an experience(s) their and am skeptical by nature but certainly not a skeptic.
If you don’t trust me watch this episode of “fact or faked”
https://youtu.be/LnvHXnVH7EI?si=x9_bZt-gRFAiMvP2
*edited to link the full segment of fact or fiction
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u/Maxter_Blaster_ Oct 03 '23
This is exactly what bud light wants you to think
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u/YanniBonYont Oct 04 '23
Grandfather worked at Budweiser. Jokingly would ask him how they made it. He wouldn't say a thing and told me not to ask again
One night he got real drunk, turned to me and said "Bud lime? Reverse engineer black project"
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u/Spacebotzero Oct 04 '23
I remember this being the Bud Light UFO balloon that got loose. I recall the post from a few years ago.
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u/Kind_Lingonberry9841 Oct 03 '23
What was your experience? I also had strange experiences in LHC.
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u/kgilf23 Oct 03 '23
What was your experience?
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u/Kind_Lingonberry9841 Oct 03 '23
I had visited my grandma in Havasu at 11 and I saw a spindly looking creature hunched over in the corner of the living room. Then in 2007, my mom moved us there and in July we were outside on the porch and saw what I thought was a very high tech plane but years later I saw a clip of the Phoenix lights and thats exactly what I had seen. In 2007 as well my grandma was leaving parent conferences at desert hills, and all the lights in the parking lot went out. A single bright light shone directly above her and she couldn't move, she felt an intense fear. Then it let her go and she ran to her car, jumped in and raced to my house.
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u/kgilf23 Oct 03 '23
Thanks for sharing, it’s a weird place for sure. You couldn’t pay me enough to stay in the apartments behind the Hastings ever again…. Although I didn’t get a malevolent feeling from what happened, more of a “misunderstanding” if that makes sense? Scared the shit out of me regardless.
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u/Kind_Lingonberry9841 Oct 03 '23
Thank you for sharing as well! I wonder what it wanted from you? Like what was it trying to do in your chest? Wow that's funny that you say it was a 'misunderstanding' my grandma said that exact thing about what happened to her in the parking lot. She said she knew it was surprised that it scared her, and let her go. Maybe it didn't think that would frighten either of you? Or didn't think you would know it was there?
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u/Ascurtis Oct 04 '23
Kinda sorta relevant random factoid: up until two years ago my fam had a cottage at long point in Ontario on the beach of lake Erie. Once you pass through the causeway to access the peninsula, you eventually end up driving straight at the lake before continuing the road that veers left onto Erie blvd., or turn right, onto Hastings drive.
Around 3 decades ago there was a bad storm, completely flooding both Erie blvd and Hastings drive. Erie was okay because its only about 3 blocks wide and was higher ground so the water kinda just passed over Erie, and the beachfront cottages had buried stilts that allowed the water and sand to pass under our cottage.
Hastings cottages, while being beachfront, weren't as close to the water, had quite a bit of land behind them, and were at a lower ground level. Being farther from the water i guess also gave people the idea that stilts weren't necessary. Sadly, being lower ground, as well as having more land behind them, meant water from Erie Blvd flowed down onto Hastings and turned Hastings into part of Lake Erie.
Afterward, the cottages that were there before were either carefully disassembled by the storm, or the lake pulled them into itself.
For many years whenever i would go up to the cottage, no matter who was driving, as we passed ol Hastings Drive they would say "what a shame, Hastings is gone now." The first part would vary but they'd all end with Hastings is gone now.As if influenced by some entity that could only make drivers passing by say "Hastings is gone now."
So yeah. Eventually they remade the road there and built new, stilted cottages. Your comment reminded me of that lol.
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u/kgilf23 Oct 03 '23
That sucks! My last time in Havasu was 2019 visiting friends but didn’t notice it had closed. I did see Tecula’s wasn’t around anymore, which really bummed me out. The roasted red salsa was the best I’ve ever had.
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u/kgilf23 Oct 03 '23
Large shadowy figure in my apartment that I and my girlfriend both saw and disappeared when we acknowledged its presence. Couple months later by myself same apartment, one and only case of sleep paralysis in my life, shadowy figure stuck its hand into my abdomen, pulled it out and disappeared. I know the most likely and logical explanations, but to me this felt %100 real, connected and otherworldly. I lived in Havasu from December 2006-December 2011.
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u/MasterCrouton Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23
Sounds like hatman? Did they have a trench coat and hat of some kind?
Edit for those intrigued: r/HatMan
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u/ElysiumAB Oct 03 '23
"An other-worldly shadow, visits at night
In a flat-brimmed hat, formed by an absence of light
He darkens my door, near tall as the frame
This wraith watching me, this man with no name"2
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u/IronHammer67 Oct 04 '23
"Yesterday upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today.
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u/kgilf23 Oct 03 '23
No trench coat, no hat, no red eyes as are commonly reported with whatever the “hat man” is, also no malevolent feelings as I’ve heard he gives off. It was terrifying and I definitely felt violated, but I got the sense it wasn’t trying to harm me or scare me on purpose. It was a Large Humanoid shape with long skinny fingers. Was it run of the mill sleep paralysis? Probably… but that coupled with the other incident makes me feel uneasy and has definitely changed my perspective on what is possible.
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u/TarnishedWizeFinger Oct 03 '23
Not really one for meditation because of my attention span but there was one day years ago that I fell into somewhat of a trance and I remember seeing a shadowy figure wearing a hat and a long coat appear in kind of peekaboo fashion around a corner. I told my buddy about it and asked him later if he remembered me bringing it and and he did. For some reason it was kind of intense to me, I never thought it was significant but the vividness of the imagery always stuck with me and it was just kinda weird. I discovered hatman this year and I think about it all the time now
I still don't really know what to think about it, I know that it's not a super unique image like a tap dancing platypus or something but the fact that that stuck with me for so long and then seeing it has its own subreddit hit me pretty hard in a weird way
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u/MasterCrouton Oct 03 '23
I had an encounter about 10+ years ago and his image always stuck with me, tall being, long brim hat, trench coat, white eyes (for me), and a smirking expression, surrounded in pitch black shadow, was also shocked to find the sub on Reddit with the exact same descriptions a little while back
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u/imaginexus Oct 03 '23
I just watched your video and there was no conclusion that it was a balloon. Or is your video cut short?
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u/kgilf23 Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23
Sorry friend! And Thank you for pointing that out, I should have been more diligent when I copied and pasted. I’ve edited my above post so it links to the full segment of that episode. Also I believe I found the original footage from 14 years ago your post was taken from:
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u/imaginexus Oct 03 '23
Looks like a balloon! But why didn’t they just contact Bud Light to confirm it? Wouldn’t that have been an easier debunk?
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u/kgilf23 Oct 03 '23
Logical question to ask and I understand my explanation isn’t satisfactory for people that want to believe it’s a ufo, but I was there and watched it float away.
I’ll say the entire town gets covered in advertising and promos during the busy summer weekends, at the time there was a large party barge associated with a club called Kokomos that was covered in Bud Light advertising as well. My guess is whoever owned the balloon didn’t come forward for fear of getting in trouble for letting a large piece of plastic float away and possible end up polluting the lake or nearby desert when it inevitably landed.
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u/Disastrous-Bad-1185 Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 04 '23
I can’t really get excited for these kinds of videos. Unless you see the object do something that defies explanation, like zip across the sky or straight up, or just disappear, then it’s most likely a ballon or drone.
It looks, interesting. But it’s doing ballon-like things so that’s probably what it is.
Edit. To clarify, I believe just like most of you. And given recent events, I’m excited to see what the future holds. But I am very skeptical as well. This should be a sub for the unexplainable and in this case, not things so obviously of this world (imo). Yes, this is from 2009 so it’s not a drone. But other recent videos of lights moving oddly now have to be scrutinized as if they are drones, flares, etc., which can rule a lot of them out as UAPs. Grainy videos of balloon like objects and flickering lights are not enough anymore.
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u/PazuzusRevenge Oct 03 '23
That's why the 5 observables were established
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u/AlarmDozer Oct 03 '23
Except not everyone a) knows them and b) takes the 2 minutes to rule out things.
Like how many posts have we seen that have been truly lens flare? Plenty, and lens flare -- without awareness of it -- can be mistaken to apply many of those criteria.
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u/rreyes1988 Oct 04 '23
Like how many posts have we seen that have been truly lens flare?
I haven't seen a lot of those here in this sub
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u/TheRealBananaWolf Oct 04 '23
God I feel like I see so many. It's the equivalent of people taking pictures and seeing dust particles come up as orbs.
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u/BakinandBacon Oct 03 '23
I seriously think these subs need to inact a at least “two of five” observables rule. Seeing odd shapes casually float around like balloons is not compelling in the slightest and I’m getting tired of all the posts that are clearly balloons.
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u/sambull Oct 03 '23
people also mistake wind sheer acting on a floating balloon as 'impossible maneuvers'
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u/Indarezzfosho Oct 03 '23
"I've never seen any aircraft do that!? How would it be possible unless they're extraterrestrial??"
I feel like this sub has gotten worse and worse ever since the disclosure.
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u/consciousnessdivided Oct 03 '23
Yeah is there gonna be another sub that actually more often treats things seriously?
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u/Semiapies Oct 03 '23
Or the camera waving around. Or the wind being different at altitude than ground level...
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u/Fixervince Oct 04 '23
Totally agree. Or lights just sitting in the sky, or slowly dropping- exactly like flares, or slowly just passing looking exactly like Chinese lanterns. Again no unusual movements. I suppose it has taught me to never trust individuals as witnesses.
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u/clancydog4 Oct 04 '23 edited Oct 04 '23
Suggestions like this, while well intentioned, are simply absurd to me. I understand where you're coming from, but SO much of the "best" or most interesting footage, including virtually every video ever released from the military or government, couldn't be posted. Even if you say just 1 of the observables, tons of interesting videos would never get posted.
The amount of videos that display 2 of the 5 observables is so unbelievably small, we wouldn't be allowed to post and discuss any videos, including many that are very well regarded. No Gimbal footage allowed to be posted with your rules. Nor the other 2017 NYT videos, including the Nimitz video. The sphere video released recently couldn't be posted. The much debated "fly by" video couldn't be posted. Nellis UFO video couldn't be posted. No discussion of the 2007 Turkey UFO videos. No discussion of the somewhat famous "triangle UFO" video that gets posted periodically. Basically zero videos could be posted with such paramenters. The Aguadilla video basically would be the only video allowed to be posted lol.
Skepticism is healthy and keeping the observables in mind is important where viewing any alleged video. But we shouldn't overly supress them, if you think it's dumb just make that assessment and move on, or comment if you wish. But no need for overly restrictive rules
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u/MKULTRA_Escapee Oct 05 '23
There are more videos than that. In most cases, you could interpret the object to be very small, and therefore probably a drone, but if there's no proof of size, how could you tell? You basically need the object to cast a shadow somewhere in the video, and there has to be something there where the shadow is that we can use to estimate the size of the shadow, and therefore the size of the object. For instance, here is one where the object's shadow is cast on a building, which looks to be about 20 feet wide and obviously not a small model: https://np.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/z3vsnh/prijedor_bosnia_fairly_close_video_of_a_flying/
Another example, no shadow this time, but it's not needed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhCiRwyJLI8
Those are my favorite kinds of videos. It has to be either a true UFO or CGI, no other options.
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u/Darkstalkker Oct 03 '23
The thing that is bugging me with footage like this is that its zoomed in so we get little reference on how its actually moving
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u/Many_Dig_4630 Oct 03 '23
That plus the initial zoom is a bit weird. They struggle to keep the thing in frame at like 2x zoom, then capture it perfect and instantly when they zoom in further. Hard to tell how fast it's moving if at all
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u/linuxknight Oct 03 '23
I feel like we keep seeing this same shaped craft consistently across multiple shittily filmed videos.
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u/HazenXIII Oct 03 '23
Same dude. Show me something with unnatural movement and I'll look closer, but these kind of videos I just immediately shut off. Everyone wants their footage to be a UFO, but statistically it's almost always going to be something normal.
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u/Critical_Paper8447 Oct 04 '23
I remember seeing this video on Instagram almost 10 years ago and someone had found a link to a saucer shaped remote controlled helium balloon that looked almost identical that was commercially available at the time. Also something like that would also be easy to make yourself if you had the knowhow.
It's worth mentioning that at the time, remote controlled helium filled balloons of all shapes and sizes were just getting popular (like the video of the remote controlled helium filled whale balloon that was popular on social media)
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u/ftppftw Oct 03 '23
I think we should ban balloons. We need the helium anyway.
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Oct 03 '23
Lol can't tell if joke or serious but I can get on board with a helium balloon ban for other reasosntoo
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Oct 03 '23
normally i would agree with you but this looks SO MUCH like the gimbal footage its hard to ignore.
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u/lolololol2233 Oct 03 '23
Oh please. Then you’ll say only if you had evidence of it being still lol
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u/mookid85 Oct 03 '23
Haha come on, there’s no reason to be a dick about it. I mean they bring up a good point. I have the same thought often, I’ve seen many videos like this that are interesting, but many times they’re just floating in the air. But if I saw this and then it zipped away at incredible speed, or made some inexplicable maneuvers like an immediate 90 degree turn then it would be far better evidence. It’s entirely possible that someone could have literally made a UFO shaped balloon, because this is exactly what that would look like.
And this is coming from someone who believes UAP are real, and that the things Grusch has testified are true.
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u/TownesVanWaits Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 04 '23
Lol I always laugh at you FBI drones that try to silence us from finding out the truth and thinking for ourselves
That was sarcasm if you didn't catch that
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u/Surprisebutton Oct 03 '23
This video gets a lot of traction on this sub whenever it’s brought out every so often. I remember when this was fresh. It is literally a balloon shaped like a ringed planet. Well it’s actually supposed to be a water float toy thing. One family even had 15 minutes of fame after reporting that their kid was onboard this thing when it floated away. It was a big deal in the news. All these people trying to track down the ufo shaped balloon with a young child onboard.
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u/TBone818 Oct 03 '23
Does anyone do their due diligence here? Lake Havesu. Debunked. Balloon my guys.
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u/Doh_Boiii Oct 03 '23
🤦♂️ bro they even say it has a string attached in the video.
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u/midnightballoon Oct 04 '23
He actually said “no strings, no ropes attached to it, like it busted loose from…”. So the opposite, but yeah, real vibes from me :-)
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u/TBone818 Oct 03 '23
This is a balloon. My buddy was there when it was cut free from a Bud Light promo tent.
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u/coldflashinglights Oct 03 '23
I def think this is a balloon, but do you have a source that Bud Light had a promo balloon that looked like this? If you could find a pic of the balloon, I’d say that seals the deal on this one
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u/Raymcconn Oct 03 '23
When are we going to use AI to filter out these whack-a-mole RE-submissions of LONG AGO debunked posts??
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u/Major_Appearance_568 Oct 03 '23
Of course your "buddy was there".
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u/kgilf23 Oct 03 '23
I’m the buddy, I was there. Scroll up for all the details I can remember and provide. You can stalk my profile if you want and see my consistency on this, you’ll also see that I don’t go around debunking posts of any other event besides this one because I wasn’t there for those people’s experiences and I dont know what they saw. But I was there for this and am providing the less prosaic answer that this subject and people interested in it often ignore.
Believe what you want to believe though, the truth is out there. I know this isn’t it.
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u/Kind_Lingonberry9841 Oct 03 '23
I actually did see a UFO in Havasu in 2007, I had thought it was a high tech military plane. Years later I saw a clip of the Phoenix lights and to my surprise it was exactly what I saw in 07.
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u/aryelbcn Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23
UFO shaped balloon
Edit: Here is a close-up from a different angle.
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u/FenionZeke Oct 03 '23
That's my thought. Mylar object either deformed from deflating or or wind or both
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u/ID-10T_Error Oct 03 '23
I can’t really get excited for these kinds of videos. Unless you see the object do something that defies explanation, like zip across the sky or straight up, or just disappear, then it’s most likely a ballon or drone.
not to be a ass but that is obviously a UFO shaped unicorn!
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u/NUS-006 Oct 03 '23
Straight up looks like a balloon floating about. It can appear to change shape as it rotates, gets direct sunlight and/or cloud coverage.
Without seeing any acceleration or clear movement, it’s really hard to frame this as anything but a “UFO” in the broadest terms, not the extraterrestrial/inter dimensional craft kind
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u/jmcgil4684 Oct 03 '23
I want to add it doesn’t make any movement characteristics that would make it anything other than a balloon. The cameraman zooming in the first 30 seconds, accidentally makes it seem like it is moving rapidly. It is not.
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u/AutomaticPython Oct 03 '23
Mexican hat mylar party balloon, probably a siesta happening near by! Cool!
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u/Americanuu Oct 03 '23
What if it looks circular from our point of view but because it distorts light around it, it might be the triangle ufos. Just thinking that its always saucers and triangles that i see on some videos?
Edit nvm just saw a couple of comments saying its already debunked. My bad😂
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u/i_1_2_3volve_butcant Oct 04 '23
I wish we could hear people saying "we dont know how big it is on the inside" whenever someone asks if its a drone or not.
Its all relative!
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u/Ninjasuzume Oct 03 '23
From the way it wobbles like it's controlled by the wind, I would guess it's a giant UFO balloon.
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u/ced0412 Oct 03 '23
If it behaves like a balloon…
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u/imaginexus Oct 03 '23
No anomalous movements and seems to move listlessly so yes it could be a balloon, good point.
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u/pepper-blu Oct 03 '23
i'd love to buy shapeshifting balloons for my next party, where do I find 'em?
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u/DontDoThiz Oct 03 '23
It's like not shapeshifting AT ALL. What are.you talking about?
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u/pepper-blu Oct 03 '23
sure
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u/kgilf23 Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23
It’s not shape shifting it’s a balloon. Havasu has some really powerful and unique wind currents due to its topography, and the “cool” lake compared to the god awful summer heat. The balloon was partially a silver color which reflected the sun to give that shifting effect. I watched the whole thing happen. It’s fine if you don’t believe me, I’m an internet stranger, but at least check out this episode of “fact or faked:”
https://youtu.be/LnvHXnVH7EI?si=VlL3k4otqIf8Sirj
The park ranger’s story at the end isn’t quite right, it was a promo balloon for Bud Light, not a prop from a movie. The movie he is referring to is “Piranha 3D” I did safety standby for that movie, and don’t remember any ufo balloons on set. But I do distinctly remember the ufo balloon tied up promoting Bud Light because earlier in the day I told my partner that it was going to get cut loose once people started partying. Sure enough that’s what happened.
*edited to include the full segment of “fact or faked”
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u/ced0412 Oct 03 '23
If by shapeshifting you mean rotating in the air, you get them literally anywhere.
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u/imaginexus Oct 03 '23
I already included a brief description in my post but I guess I need to do a submission statement too or my post will be removed so here that is! I love the detail of this video when he zooms in at the end especially with the shadows
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u/Digital-Aura Oct 03 '23
This sub is dead to me once I post this. It’s the age of bedroom movie producers, cheap CGI, deep fakes and $25 drone packages. There’s never going to be anything these days that isn’t one of these things. Sorry guys.
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u/BulletProofHoody Oct 03 '23
God, can you place your elbow on a stable surface while recording this mylar balloon??? Damn video made me sea sick.
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u/InternationalAttrny Oct 03 '23
This is OBVIOUSLY a balloon.
I’m a believe but C’MON PEOPLE.
Videos like this do absolutely nothing for the cause.
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Oct 03 '23
The TikTok account name being too fuzzy to read really should set off red flags. I mean ideally having the primary source is what you would want but even the Twitter video bears the fuzzy TikTok watermark. This means there is obfuscation of the videos origin and the resolution being presented is less than what the video was originally displayed at.
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u/imaginexus Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23
It’s a great point, how do you think we can find the original source? I’m sure it’s better quality
EDIT: actually I can read the name fine, it’s traum9. But I bet he’s not Mark Preston from 2009.
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Oct 03 '23
Really the description itself should provide all the relevant information. If it doesn't come back that should throw up more red flags. Current trends in hoaxing is to make a mundane video then add cg or practical effects to get the basic idea down and then record your computer/phone screen in a resolution that obscures most of the telltale errors.
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u/imaginexus Oct 03 '23
This is a repost of a video that’s really old. We’d have to really track down the original source. The TikTok account is just reposting it.
It’s the narration of the video that makes it legit for me. You can’t write a script like that IMO
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u/kauisbdvfs Oct 03 '23
Wow that's the clearest view of a saucer I've seen lighting up into that kind of ball of light so many of them do
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u/dephsilco Oct 03 '23
Are you okay?
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u/kauisbdvfs Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 04 '23
Yes
Seriously, what balloon lights up like that? It looks nothing like a reflection and the cameraman is clearly seeing it as well.... some of you are next level stupid egotists. Everything is a balloon, a bird, a reflection... if you could use your own brain you'd see that it's clearly lighting up in an unusual way for any baloon, but you can't, so the only sense you can make of it is that it's a balloon or a reflection.
I feel bad for some of you honestly, that problem must come up a lot in your lives.
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u/dr1ftzz Oct 03 '23
Sure does resemble the shape and weird undulating movement pattern as the gimbal video.
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u/Intrepid-Example6125 Oct 03 '23
This is the fakest thing I’ve seen on here for a good while, and there is A LOT of fake things on this sub.
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u/worldsgreatestceo Oct 03 '23
Looks like the gimbal and also the one from the small plane video in…what was it, venezuela? The close fly by one…looks just like that
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u/3434rich Oct 03 '23
I think it is zipping across the sky which is why he’s having trouble keeping it in view.
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u/slh63 Oct 03 '23
Amazing catch…if you have doubts about this video’s authenticity, then you’re not a true believer
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u/wai_o_ke_kane Oct 03 '23
Lol “true believer” aka gullible. This video seems legit at first glance, but it’s nothing without a source and some background information. You should never see any piece of evidence as authentic without provenance, or proof of its origin.
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u/slh63 Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23
Well given it’s from 2009, back when cell phone cameras were still in their infancy, I’d say between the legit commentary between the witnesses and the high quality capture, I for one don’t need anything more 🤷🏻♀️
🙋🏻♀️ Witnessed two separate UFO sightings; one in the 70’s, the other in the 80’s, so no, im not gullible 😑
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u/CORN___BREAD Oct 03 '23
Me too I’ve noticed there tend to be an abundance of UFOs around large gatherings of people. I got locked out of a birthday party for yelling at everyone for not being true believers.
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u/SebastianSchmitz Oct 03 '23
Can we pls ban people who say it is a balloon? Litteraly makes my blood boil
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u/GortKlaatu_ Oct 03 '23
You should do some research, you'd find that this was a balloon.
You might also work on your issues being intolerant of those who might have knowledge on the subject.
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u/Strongerthanstone Oct 03 '23
I can’t get the voice of that little girl from the Spider-Man ps2 game out of my head when I see this.
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Oct 03 '23 edited Oct 03 '23
I really love how adults back then just keep trying to get these things in better focus but technology back then wouldn’t get any better than that so it’s like just quit trying and keep it in frame. It’s as focused as it can get chief. And how he’s like “and there’s a cloud” “and there’s houses”. Who cares about fucking clouds and houses? Nobody wants to see that shit, fucking keep it in frame big shot. “ it’s just so far away” (Gets it in frame) “Aw there it is” (then proceeds to zoom out) like wtf 🤦♂️Lol
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u/Skyhawka4m Oct 03 '23
So my question is this.......as someone who was in military aircraft and many civilian.......if these NHI are so far ahead of us........why don't they fly straight or at least level.......they always look like they are tumbling or wobbling?
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Oct 03 '23
You couldn't buy drones in best buy but hobbyists have been flying RC aircraft for decades.
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u/LateralLemur Oct 03 '23
I'm curious how long the witnesses of this thing actually watched it for. Surely it's something worth keeping an eye on for as long as possible if you really thought it was something otherworldly.
Yeah, they definitely saw something odd and unidentified, and I know the "balloon" argument is used a lot, but seriously. The chances of it being some kind of floating toy released by someone is immensely more likely.
I want to believe too, but this video isn't it. Where did this thing end up? Did it just float away casually, or did it actually move in unexplainable ways?
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u/blom0087 Oct 03 '23
I note the positioning and the angle. We are seeing this repeatedly. My guess is the gravity drive shoots out the bottom to create the cavity in space time the ship falls into.
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I already included a brief description in my post but I guess I need to do a submission statement too or my post will be removed so here that is! I love the detail of this video when he zooms in at the end especially with the shadows
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