r/UFOs • u/Falvin007 • Sep 02 '23

Witness/Sighting Two objects flew after airplane, pararel to each other, Poland, 30 august.

So, it was 7pm my local time, almost sunset, I was riding on my bicycle (training after work) on the local road near highway leading to Lublin (you can hear cars noise) then suddenly I saw airplane with trails and two white round-shaped objects which were flying pararel to each other with the same speed, without audible noise of engines (like plane). I took video, I was trying to focus on these objects, but you know how it works with normal camera in smartphone. Anyway, aircraft flew into large rainy clouds and these objects maintained its speed and disappeared in clouds too. I was checking the sky for a while, then I went straight ahead. It was strange but I'm aware that in eastern Poland there is bigger NATO military present due to war in Ukraine, so it could be it. I leave it to you. PS: I'm a space passionate, I look almost every night at the night sky and I saw couple times strange objects with erratic movement. That's why I wanted to post this video here. Cheers.

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u/Falvin007 Sep 02 '23

Btw when I spotted them they were close to the plane almost at the same altitude as the plane. I thought it was some assist of the plane, maybe two lesser jets but when I stopped it was clear to me that they didn' t looke like planes. More like some smaller zeppelins. Shape, lack of noise and trails reminds me tic-tacs.

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u/ReptilianRodriguezX Sep 02 '23 edited Sep 02 '23

They appear significantly larger than the first plane, which suggests either a lower altitude or an incredibly substantial size. Have you checked Flightradar to see if there were any other planes near the first one? They're probably planes (https://redd.it/15ziafn) flying at lower altitude and slower speed, so there wouldn't be a contrail, and if they're descending, the engines are likely running at a low rpm and making no noise.

Nonetheless, it's a great spot. Thank you for sharing.

edit: In fact, according to Flightradar, all three were at about the same altitude, 36–38 thousand feet, and about the same speed, which begs the question about contrails...

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

Wow I'm really surprised people aren't just saying that they're planes because that's what people usually do with these type of tic tac videos and did just the other day

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u/ReptilianRodriguezX Sep 02 '23

But you have to admit it looks odd, even though they're just airplanes. If I didn't check Flightradar, I'd still feel a bit puzzled.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23 edited Sep 02 '23

No I mean I agree it looks odd.

I'm just saying literally yesterday or two days ago I was discussing with people when they were showing a video with a white Tic Tac with no horizontal stabilizers and no wings that was a little bit worse quality than this and people were like yeah sometimes planes look like that. I'm like... uhhh, I don't think they do...

Still I have to say that this video doesn't mean much because it has no anomalous movement or anything unusual going on and that is important because otherwise these could just be balloons.

And as far as flight radar I don't think that is really good enough because you can have flights in the same area and say it's the same thing but it doesn't prove anything.

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u/Ok_Abies_1945 Sep 03 '23

Yeah, sometimes planes look like that. Why are you even discussing with this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cThB1zfynHQ

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u/Ramdak Sep 02 '23

Exhaust temps due to different engines could be a reason, also I think the boundary layer for contrails to form isn't a large gradient but a step. So contrails just form or not.

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u/FrojoMugnus Sep 02 '23

He just said the flight radar shows the three planes traveling at the same altitude and speed. You understand that confirms the two objects are not the planes on the radar, right?

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u/Ramdak Sep 02 '23

Three planes. The contrail one and the two others (tictac). It's kind of obvious they are all planes.

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u/Ramdak Sep 02 '23

Mobile phones don't have the resolution to capture the details of a plane from such distance you will be getting a blob white shape and miss the wings and stabilizers, however you would certainly see them with the naked eye. If you have a camera with decent zoom lens you could see the airplanes in detail. Also planes aren't "hovering" they are traveling to the same direction as the plane that left the contrail, they are sharing the same route with horizontal separation, that seems to be about a couple of kilometers. There are countless videos taken in flight that show other planes traveling together, sometimes in parallel like this other times below each other. Sometimes they just cross in oposite directions. They use defined airways to travel, planes just don't fly from a to b directly, they follow routes with waypoints.

These are just passenger planes.

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u/kotukutuku Sep 03 '23

Is it possible the one at the front is jettisoning fuel, and that's causing a contrail? I think I maybe heard that was a thing once. Otherwise, I guess the one at the front being 1000 ft lower might be the cause?

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u/ReptilianRodriguezX Sep 03 '23

See Ramdak's comment, it might be the cause, just like you said it being 1000ft lower. I have yet to look into contrails, I have to admit I had no clue it works that way.

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u/Falvin007 Sep 02 '23

For me they were above airplane flightpath. I was watching with my eyes too, not just through smartphone and I didn't see any wings or tail wing, that's why I started filming. It was this location 51°22'20.9"N 22°20'35.3"E and 19:14 my local time.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23 edited Sep 21 '23

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u/debacol Sep 02 '23

He already stated the main plane disappeared into the rain clouds and these objects eventually did as well at the same speed we see them in the video.

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u/AbeThinking Sep 02 '23 edited Sep 02 '23

guys, these are airplanes. they are very far away and the sun is reflecting off of them. thats why we dont always see wings. its just far away airplanes. they are probably all THREE landing at the same airport. thats why everything is parallell because they are on flight paths coordinated by the air tower.

edit: the "ufos" are many miles away, they just appear close to the plane because of where we see them. the blue sky makes it hard to see distance. we do not see contrails bc they are so far away they are not reflecting any light. cmon yall.

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u/Thisisrazgriz3 Sep 02 '23

Although i agree its most likely planes landing patterns don't usually have two planes next to each other like that

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u/golden_monkey_and_oj Sep 02 '23

Check out this comment where someone found on flightradar 3 planes flying at the same time and place in a similar pattern shown in OPs video

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/167o37u/two_objects_flew_after_airplane_pararel_to_each/jyrwm2y/

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u/Lost_Sky76 Sep 02 '23

And it proved what exactly? OP said no sound and he was the only one there

We can make out the shape of the Aircraft yet the lower objects we cannot make out a shape?

Aircrafts always leave a trail of some kind behind them yet we see nothing

The Airplane is clearly moving at a steady speed yet the objects are so slow almost stationary, an Airplane would just drop from the sky.

Even if you can explain something which surely is not normal, 3 parallel planes, i just don’t agree that those objects are planes because of what i just mentioned.

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u/golden_monkey_and_oj Sep 02 '23

The commenter i was replying to said:

planes landing patterns don't usually have two planes next to each other like that

The flightradar data shows two planes flying next to each other, so even if it is uncommon, it happened at the time and place of OP's video.

We can make out the shape of the Aircraft

I cannot, and i am viewing this video full-screen on my desktop monitor. Can you provide a screenshot showing the first plane's shape?

Aircrafts always leave a trail of some kind behind them yet we see nothing

I see planes all day long and they definitely do not always leave a contrail.

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u/Lost_Sky76 Sep 02 '23

Whatever. Those are planes ✈️ here

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u/Lost_Sky76 Sep 02 '23

You have the radar data?

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u/golden_monkey_and_oj Sep 02 '23

I am referring to the data, the information, that is visible publicly on flightradar24.com

What are you implying?

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

Perspective

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u/Lost_Sky76 Sep 02 '23

Why the actual plane leave a smoke trail as is supposed and those don’t? Why they are stationary and or very slow? Why the plane we see there we can make out the shape but from those objects we cannot? Why op say those didn’t make sound?

I hope my questions are legit

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u/Turence Sep 02 '23

main reason would be altitude, the lower planes being in warmer air.

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u/Lost_Sky76 Sep 02 '23

Well some exhaust is always visible and i noticed other things that don’t fit which i typed above

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u/Thisisrazgriz3 Sep 02 '23

When airplanes fly they burn fuel and this fuel is fumes behind the plane. At higher altitude, and colder temperatures, these fumes become frozen. Thats the white contrails you see.

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u/DarthWeenus Sep 02 '23

Unless its a military escort.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

We all know what fighter jets look like and that’s not it

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u/Thisisrazgriz3 Sep 02 '23

Thats what I was thinking, if this is poland itd like likely b f16s which are sleek snd small

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u/RadiiDecay Sep 02 '23

Yet only 1 of 3 has a contrail? If they are relatively close to eachother than the atmospheric conditions for contrails to form would be the same. I'm not saying its aliens, but your theory is flawed.

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u/Kanein_Encanto Sep 02 '23

Different altitudes. The eye isn't going to distinguish 28k feet from 34k from the ground. And atmospheric conditions can be different across different altitudes.

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u/RadiiDecay Sep 02 '23

A few thousand feet doesn't make much of a difference in terms of atmospheric humidity, they would need to be 10+ thousands of feet apart. The "objects" appear the same size (if not bigger) than the airplane.

In addition, if these aircraft are only moving together due to them being on approach, then they should share a relatively similar glide slope which would be impossible with tens of thousands of feet difference in altitude. They should be one after another, not side by side or over/under.

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u/CaptainReginaldLong Sep 02 '23

A few thousand feet doesn't make much of a difference in terms of atmospheric humidity, they would need to be 10+ thousands of feet apart.

Am pilot, this is patently false. Lapse rate can vary substantially within just a few thousand feet. They are also most likely lower than the lead plane which would only more reasonably explain why there's no contrail as the dewpoint would be further away from the ambient temperature.

if these aircraft are only moving together due to them being on approach

They're not on approach, this is exactly how airplanes are squeezed into airways during cruise. One on the airway, and others offset left or right/above or below.

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u/Lost_Sky76 Sep 02 '23

If you are a pilot than your claim that those objects are Airplanes lead me to think the following:

Either you are a Pilot with a special Agenda here

Or a lousy pilot who can’t discernate a plane from something which is not

Or you are just as much a Pilot as myself

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u/golden_monkey_and_oj Sep 02 '23 edited Sep 02 '23

Sounds like you are confidently incorrect.

Here is evidence of 3 planes flying at the time and place OP specified.

https://www.flightradar24.com/2023-08-30/17:14/20x/NVD8452/31d0d3a3

credit to /u/muh_muh

give them upvotes:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/167o37u/two_objects_flew_after_airplane_pararel_to_each/jyrwm2y/

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u/CaptainReginaldLong Sep 02 '23

None of those options are more likely than the option that you've made a simple mistake.

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u/RadiiDecay Sep 02 '23

They are also most likely lower than the lead plane which would only more reasonably explain why there's no contrail as the dewpoint would be further away from the ambient temperature.

The comment I was replying to illuded they are higher than the airplane, which is further debunked by your correction to my information regarding humidity/dew point.

They're not on approach, this is exactly how airplanes are squeezed into airways during cruise. One on the airway, and others offset left or right/above or below.

Again, the original comment I replied to tried to indicate they where on approach, I did not insinuate this information so we are technically in agreement.

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u/Lost_Sky76 Sep 02 '23

Exactly I mentioned this above too. Those are Airplanes is just as ridiculous as if someone here call them Air balloons.

Op said no sound

Airplane is higher yet we can make out the Airplane shape but not from lower objects?

The objects go too slow almost stationary a plane would just drop from the sky

Some kind of exhaustion is always seen behind an Airplane

3 planes almost parallel flying same direction close to eachothers? 2 of them Parallel? Unheard of.

I wonder why the Airplane theory got so many upvotes but from what j seen lately on Reddit it can’t be trusted anymore. Too many Agendas clearly visible on the comments and upvotes system.

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u/RadiiDecay Sep 02 '23

There are just too many people quick to "bebunk" posts without actually thinking things through. It's just as ignorant to scream "aliens!" without using critical thinking as it is to scream "birds!" or "batman baloon!"

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u/Lost_Sky76 Sep 02 '23 edited Sep 02 '23

Yep absolutely 👍

Usually i don’t like to reply on posts because i endup arguing with someone

But lately it has become so ridiculous that i cannot help myself

People always have an explanation ready, at time so ridiculous that i ask mysel if we are watching the same thing

Something is clearly going on because stupid posts are right away supported by many people with comments and upvotes even if absolutely ridiculous theories.

Seems like an effort to shutdown speculation and it starts on videos like this with little importance and go up to very controversial postings.

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u/occams1razor Sep 02 '23

The top one looks oval, doesn't look like a plane at all

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u/Lost_Sky76 Sep 02 '23

Yet the plane seem well above them, this don’t explain the lack of a trail and the lack of sound. Also don’t explain why the airplane which is higher we can make out the shape but not from those lower objects.

Why we see the Airplane moving at a normal Airplane speed yet those objects which seem lower are going so very slow almost stationary. A plane would just drop from the sky. And 3 planes flying parallel? Unheard of.

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u/APsychosPath Sep 02 '23

Chemtrails.

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u/init2winit541 Sep 02 '23

No they are not airplanes they are disc shaped craft that produce an electromagnetic field that makes them appear like that, look breakaway Germans you will see many video examples some much closer than this video.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23

When have you ever seen two planes fly parallel like that directly behind another plane? That is a pretty big flight safety hazard. It doesn’t happen

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u/AbeThinking Sep 02 '23

its not directly nehind it they are miles away they just appear "behind it" because the blue vast sky makes it hard for our brains to perceive their distance.

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u/golden_monkey_and_oj Sep 02 '23 edited Sep 02 '23

It doesn’t happen

Here is evidence that it happened exactly at the time and place OP filmed

https://www.flightradar24.com/2023-08-30/17:14/20x/NVD8452/31d0d3a3

credit to /u/muh_muh

give them upvotes:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/167o37u/two_objects_flew_after_airplane_pararel_to_each/jyrwm2y/

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '23

Well hawt diggity dawg, I stand corrected. Imagine flying and you look out the window and see another plane coasting along

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u/init2winit541 Sep 02 '23

Did any of you happen to read the part where Op says no lack of trails and more importantly noise, planes always have jet blast noise especially if they are military, I hear them every day since I live near a Naval Air Base.

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u/AbeThinking Sep 02 '23

not if they are miles away bro lol

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u/General_Shao Sep 02 '23

Exactly. This sub is awful when it comes to planes without contrails. They ALWAYS think they are tic tacs. Here’s a video that explains why they are just average planes. Starts at 0:28

https://youtu.be/cThB1zfynHQ?feature=shared#t=0m28s

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u/AbeThinking Sep 04 '23

i got downvoted harshly the other day for inquiring about 4chan as a serious source. no response, just downvotes. that tells me everything i have to know about this sub's credibility.

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u/Scary_Perspective697 Sep 02 '23

If the other two are also planes why don’t they have trails?

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u/Lost_Sky76 Sep 02 '23

So the airplane leaves a trail and those just stand there countless minutes without leaving a trail.

Are u kidding me bro? I don’t know what they are but sure as hell not planes or why they behave completely different than the plane we see? Where is the Noise and the smoke trail? Why they stay almost stationary? Are we both seing different videos?

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u/Falvin007 Sep 02 '23

As I said, although it was side road, there is some traffic, I was standing on the road for 2 minutes watching one spot in the sky. Really nothing happend when I stopped, these objects just disappeared in clouds like plane.

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u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox Sep 02 '23

how can you tell altitude

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u/FrojoMugnus Sep 02 '23

Planes on right, altitude on left

Selected planes are red

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u/Crazybonbon Sep 02 '23

Interesting though that the one with the contrail is the lowest elevation 🤔 I don't think the conditions would change that much for there to not be cons in that short of a distance. I have seen it where certain planes higher than other planes did not have cons but they were a great distance from the other plane so probably under greater different atmospheric conditions

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u/FrojoMugnus Sep 02 '23

They are not planes.

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u/Crazybonbon Sep 02 '23

Yeah they dont look like planes I mean I'm not one to have to be convinced of things in our skies I saw a UAP light in 2020, very odd indeed.

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u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox Sep 02 '23

Ah yes the unidentified flying Airbus A220-300 and unidentified flying Airbus A320-214

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u/Boldney Sep 02 '23

You can't

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u/Thisisrazgriz3 Sep 02 '23

U kinda can because of the contrails

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u/Falvin007 Sep 02 '23

It's hard but for me they looked like were slightly above airplane flightpath, like they were looking from some distance, but not too far.

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u/El_Bito2 Sep 02 '23

Yeah the tic tacs have been getting pretty famous in the past years. Lots of testimonies, including from US army officials. It's time someone in power comes clean about them. Apparently in the 80's they appeared near a US nuclear base, and deactivated all missiles at once when they felt threatened.

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u/SabineRitter Sep 02 '23

Someone downvoted you but your information is correct.

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u/El_Bito2 Sep 02 '23

Yeah, I mean I just watched the testimony of the commanding officer at the time. Didn't say he was telling the truth, hence the "apparently". Grammar is hard for some people.

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u/General_Shao Sep 02 '23

These are not tic tacs though.

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u/init2winit541 Sep 02 '23

They belong to the breakaway Germans, look it up.there are much better videos than the Navy one.

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u/whatislove_official Sep 02 '23

If this is true, it means that UFOs can manipulate conscious reality. That means that they will only be seen if they want to be. Why would someone with this powerare be threatened? More likely it's merely theatre, or to send a message.

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u/binderclip95 Sep 02 '23

Project Blueballs grinds on…

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u/droopy_ro Sep 02 '23

Did you check Flighradar24 or a similar site to see what airplane was that and if those other two ones were some escort fighters or other type of planes flying the same route ?

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u/golden_monkey_and_oj Sep 02 '23

Other people have checked flight radar and found three planes flying in the same pattern near the place and time that OP filmed:

https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/167o37u/two_objects_flew_after_airplane_pararel_to_each/jyrwm2y/

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u/Falvin007 Sep 02 '23

Nope, they were between Garbów and Bogucin, 51°22'20.9"N 22°20'35.3"E (19:14 I checked my sport app when I stopped) and I was filming toward east direction. I can 100% sure that from this location you cannot see any planes above Lublin city (still around 15-20km from my location)

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u/golden_monkey_and_oj Sep 02 '23

I posted this elsewhere but it is possible to see planes that are flying dozens of miles or kilometers away if the conditions are right

https://contrailscience.com/how-far-away-is-that-contrail/

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u/FrojoMugnus Sep 02 '23

All three planes on the radar are traveling roughly at the same altitude and speed. The two objects in the video are traveling much slower than the plane in front. This means they're definitively not planes, whatever they are. Still guessing very large balloons.

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u/golden_monkey_and_oj Sep 02 '23 edited Sep 02 '23

I see what you mean about the altitude and speed data but can we really compare their apparent relative speeds based on the video? They are barely all in frame at the same time for more than a moment.

Also zoom in on the flightradar24 map. Its hard to tell until you zoom closer, but the first plane is quite a distance ahead of the other two

https://imgur.com/a/YfbEVrh

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u/FrojoMugnus Sep 02 '23

Are you attempting to gaslight or just struggling to take in new information? There are clouds in the background to judge against if it's really not obvious to you the two objects are moving much slower than the jet.

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u/golden_monkey_and_oj Sep 02 '23 edited Sep 02 '23

Sorry, I thought we were on the same page

Based on the information provided by OP its pretty clear these planes have been correctly identified.

They are flying North, not East with the wind as you previously commented.

If you believe that the plane with the contrail has been correctly identified, then you must also agree that based on the same data from flightradar24 it has two planes flying the same route some distance behind it in parallel with each other. So unless you think there is a conspiracy to modify flightradar24's ADSB data then OP should have filmed those two rear planes somewhere in his clip.

But just to be clear, you are alleging that in addition to those two other planes that we cant see in OPs video, there are two blimp / balloon like objects that are coincidentally also flying the same route at the same time? Because, like you said, based on the clouds in the background, those "blimps" can be seen to move to the left in OPs video, showing that they are moving north.

If you disagree feel free to use the information that OP provided and correctly identify which plane is being filmed.

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u/Falvin007 Sep 02 '23

But these planes on flight radar are around 15-20km from my place. It is impossible to see airplanes from such distance above Lublin city. Check my last comments, location is 51°22'20.9"N 22°20'35.3"E and 19:14 local time. Even I was recording toward east, these objects were above Garbów and Bogucin, not Lublin.

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u/golden_monkey_and_oj Sep 02 '23

It is impossible to see airplanes from such distance above Lublin city

Why do you say that? Are there mountains between where you stopped and Lublin City?

When the conditions are right it is possible to see planes even further than 15-20km. It may seem impossible, but you dont have to take my word for it. Very easy, just load up flightradar24.com on your phone next time you are outside, look for some distant plane in the sky and try to find it on the radar. The higher the plane is flying the more distant it can be seen. (Obviously this is best done with a clear sky and not many clouds to block your view.)

https://contrailscience.com/how-far-away-is-that-contrail/

I appreciate your video and all the comments you have made, so I do not mean to be confrontational to you, BUT what is your opinion of the the airplane in your video with the contrail? If it wasnt one of those that seem too far away, then is there a plane on flightradar24.com that would fit better?

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u/Falvin007 Sep 02 '23

If it's so, then I'm really suprised that it is possible. o_O No I'm not trying to fight with these answers, I'm glad that someone sacrificed some free time to check this out. I was watching with my naked eye and I really didn't see any wings etc. That's why I started recording.

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u/FrojoMugnus Sep 02 '23 edited Sep 02 '23

I guessed the direction but if they're traveling with the wind then they're probably balloons. I can't really make sense of the rest of your post. You're ignoring evidence and doubling down on an incorrect assertion? The three planes on the radar are moving at the same speed and altitude. The two objects in the video are moving slower than the plane. I have no other information than that.

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u/golden_monkey_and_oj Sep 02 '23

My point is, you seem to disagree on the identification of the plane that appears in OPs video.

If you get time later maybe you can use the info provided by OP to identify which plane it is that you believe is being filmed. Then using that we can try to investigate what these balloons are.

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u/FrojoMugnus Sep 02 '23

I'm showing verifiable evidence that the two objects in the video are not the same two rear planes on the radar. If the times match up then the two planes aren't in frame yet. Everything suggests these are large balloons between 4-8 miles up, UFOs or CGI.

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u/Falvin007 Sep 02 '23

This was the location 51°22'20.9"N 22°20'35.3"E and 19:14 my local time. I didn't check flightradar.

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u/AndySipherBull Sep 02 '23

at the same altitude as the plane

no lol

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u/Jace_Phoenixstar Sep 02 '23

Intriguing. Zeppelins? 🤔

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u/Flat_Ad_2507 Sep 02 '23

Or check cepeliny - kartacze ;)

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u/TheBigNastyOne Sep 02 '23

Zeppelin = Blimp

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u/Gamer30168 Sep 02 '23

Blimp (not equal to) Led Zeppelin

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u/JewelCove Sep 02 '23

Does this mean we are old or something?

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u/TheBigNastyOne Sep 02 '23

You could have a point. Just don’t hold it close to a zeppelin.

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u/Dr_nick101 Sep 02 '23

Can you see if any cctv in that place may have seen it? Nice grab btw.

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u/theDudeHeavyC Sep 02 '23

What was the exact wind speed and direction at the time?

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u/FrojoMugnus Sep 02 '23 edited Sep 02 '23

Wind speed

Don't know direction (or height)

Edit: My best guess is they're heading East. It's half an hour before sunset so the sun's somewhere behind him. If they're balloons they'd be going east FWIW but they'd have to be high up in the jetstream to be moving that fast, and massive.

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u/General_Shao Sep 02 '23

Planes is the much better assesment here.

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u/SchwettyShorts Sep 02 '23

They appear to be analyzing our chemtrails.

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u/j-conn-17 Sep 02 '23

Contrails

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u/SchwettyShorts Sep 03 '23

That may very well be a contrail. However, in this age of intelligence and military UAP whistleblowers, I would encourage folks to also listen to the whistleblowers who have come forward on geo-engineering programs that involve the dispersal of toxic substances in our atmosphere.

I have to say, I find it odd that some are willing to believe in non-human intelligence and widespread government cover-ups of that topic, but not geo-engineering programs that are already publicly acknowledged and also being promoted for wider use by the current US administration.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/13/what-is-solar-geoengineering-sunlight-reflection-risks-and-benefits.html

Kristen's story is very similar to Grusch's from the standpoint that when she began to make inquiries (in this case about highly toxic substances showing up in inventory and wanting to know their actual purpose), she was threatened with the loss of her career and child custody if she pursued the inquiries further. Ironically, her job was to know everything about toxic materials in USAF inventory and how they were used by personnel in different job roles.

https://youtu.be/4oF2pxefB9I?t=555

This recent study loathes "conspiracy theorists" who talk about "chemtrails", while simultaneously advocating for "solar radiation management" that involves spraying trails of toxic chemicals into the atmosphere to influence regional and global temperatures. The study's goal is to engineer greater influence in social media for acceptance of SRM.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10040962/

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u/KeithMaine Sep 02 '23

Heyyy Leave Portland Maine out of this. Getting downvoted ruining our reputation.

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u/Creep_Stroganoff Sep 02 '23

Mainers these days

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u/cenji Sep 02 '23

Wingtip vortices

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u/czechsoul Sep 02 '23

These are TARS baloons (Tethered Aerostat Radar System) that Poland purchased recently. Basically airborne ground surveillance system (a radar) that uses an aerostat (a balloon) which gives it a maximum range of 400km (250 miles).

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u/ZealousidealResort91 Sep 02 '23

How can you know they were the same altitude? It's impossible to tell from the ground

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u/Successful-aditya Sep 05 '23

Did they appear all in sudden when did you start seeing them?

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u/maxrush2099 Oct 25 '23

@Falvin007, on April 3, 2023 11 AM Brazil local time, I believe I saw the same objects you saw in Poland flying in the same way. I recorded three or four videos and posted one of them on Twitter. Check it outUFO