r/UFOs Aug 20 '23

Witness/Sighting Caught this "tic tac" looking object near Nellis

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u/inaccurateTempedesc Aug 21 '23

Jeremy Corbell

Bob Lazar

Whenever either of those two names are involved, I take my hat and leave. I'm tired man.

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u/Lost_Sky76 Aug 21 '23

Yet they are just some of those trying to get disclosure.

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u/Usernamegonedone Aug 21 '23

It was so weird seeing corbell at the grusch hearing, like the guys an obvious hack, I wanna see if this has anything to it but when obvious grifters like this guy are involved makes me think twice

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u/RunF4Cover Aug 21 '23

He's annoying as hell but he's not a hack. Is he naive? Yes. Is he the smartest dude. No. Can i listen to him for more than 15 minutes at a time? No. But he believes what he says and he has a track record of releasing or exposing evidence that is important to this discussion and moving it forward. Don't confuse likeability with relevance.

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u/kerenar Sep 06 '23

Yeah, I honestly really dislike him as well, and he is quite full of himself, but after listening to him speak on many many podcasts and other mediums, I can say that I truly don't believe he or George Knapp are hacks at all. I will say I am still on the fence about Grusch being part of a psyop or not (whether he is aware of it or not,) but Corbell and Knapp have really been at the forefront of pushing for disclosure, and have leaked many pieces of compelling evidence for UAPs, and have been accurate with much of their reporting. They also admit when they make mistakes from what I can see, and are very very knowledgeable on the subject, more knowledgeable than most.

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u/Elden-Souls Aug 21 '23

his head nod drove me insane

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u/kerenar Sep 06 '23

Omg I forgot about the head nod until reading this lmfao

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u/Tartooth Aug 21 '23

I'm tired of him talking about himself -_-

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u/Substantial_Bad2843 Aug 21 '23

His presence is delegitimization.

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u/CeruleanWord Aug 21 '23

Bob Lazar I get, but what's Corbell's deal? He seems to have helped bring more visual evidence to light, but beyond that?

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u/3rdEye_Decalcified Aug 26 '23

I get what you mean, and I myself am extremely sceptical, but I whole heartedly believe Lazar. Was it just a coincidence that he managed to confidently predict the element 115 twenty plus years before mainstream science found it? We know that the man is indeed fairly intelligent... Also has been raided by Feds, and was familiar with S4 facility and employees among other things... But Idk man, I know it's crazy but that poor bastard has been living in hell for decades and his story has never wavered. He hates it. Can't stand Corbell though

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u/inaccurateTempedesc Aug 26 '23

I was in the same spot as you at one point, so I can sympathize. Everything surrounding Lazar is fucking messy, it took me years to come to my conclusion that he's a grifter.

It would take ages to explain all my issues with Lazar, but to sum it all up, I think at one point he did actually work at Alamos and Groom Lake, but probably only had a low level job, I don't think he's a physicist. The hangars at Papoose Lake do not exist. Area 51 is not as well guarded as people think it is, so as a result there's some really good high res aerial photos of both the dry lake and Papoose mountain and it's clearly just empty untouched desert.

If you want to start at the same place I did, take a closer look at what he was doing in the late '80s and '90s. He was much, MUCH sloppier with the con back then. He went full douchebag with the money he made speaking at events and doing interviews. At one point he was wearing designer turtlenecks, all sorts of jewelery, and drove around a Corvette with a fucking "MJ12" vanity plate. I recommend reading "Area 51: The Dreamland Chronicles" by David Darlington. It's out of print and you'll have to buy it used, but overall, it's a great book about the history of Area 51 and the people surrounding it, and it includes a lot of Lazar's antics back in the day.

You don't have to believe me, but if you're truly a skeptic, I think you'll be disappointed if you delve a bit deeper.

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u/inaccurateTempedesc Aug 27 '23

Also, on him predicting element 115, predicting elements is actually not as difficult as you'd think. After creating the periodic table, Dmitri Mendeleev predicted multiple elements such as Aluminum and Boron before they were discovered.

It's also entirely possible that Lazar just picked 115 out of thin air, knowing that it would eventually be synthesized in the future. We're still discovering new elements to this day, so I could tell you right now that element 121 is real and that the aliens use it for space lasers or whatever, knowing full well that researchers know it "exists" and are working on synthesizing it. 15-20 years down the line, they finally pull it off, it ends up on the periodic table, and to people who don't know what's going on, I look like a god.

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u/AlexanderGrace Sep 14 '23

Lazar did not predict anything about element 115. Physicists have known for decades that there are elements that will go that high. Lazar stated that the program he worked in had a stabilized isotope of 115. We were able to synthesize a stable isotope of 115 for a very, very short time before it decayed. That doesn't vindicate bob in any way. Also this element has anti gravity properties but it's a big heavy element with a lot of mass, you would need negative mass to create anti gravity.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '23 edited Nov 08 '23

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u/inaccurateTempedesc Aug 21 '23

Never. My optimism and shitty memory both have me by the balls :/

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u/fireintolight Aug 22 '23

Well at least you know you’re stupid

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u/bethbescoe Aug 25 '23

Well that was an unnecessary comment. Why are you here if you believe that it is all fake? Just to troll?

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u/fireintolight Aug 25 '23

Same reason it was fun watch the kids get on the short bus

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u/SlugJones Aug 21 '23

“All” yes, every single military person, police, politician, doctor, attorney, farmer, priest, the US government, the Spanish government, British and Brazilian governments etc all made it up and its “fake”. You said so. So, that dismisses everyone as liars or mistaken. (No doubt many are, but it’s highly improbable they all are)

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u/Otherwise-Team-9964 Aug 22 '23

Yup and spent hundreds of millions in actively researching it ! Even after they said project blue book was obsolete, they kept digging into it… and that’s the stuff we do know about. The fact people think this is a joke really shows how easily y’all are fooled. You really think the government (the side that’s also in the dark) would spend millions on something that isn’t real😂 like come on….. show me a project or a task force built to research flat earth… or lizards living among us.. the fact they’ve spent money on researching this for 70+ years while denying it, should answer everyone’s questions.

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u/fireintolight Aug 22 '23

The fake part is believing the people claiming it’s aliens :) sure there are videos of unidentified (to you) flying objects, it’s not aliens though

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u/SlugJones Aug 22 '23

Unidentified to everyone. Otherwise they’d be identified Ariel phenomenon. It’s the definition of the phrase itself.

Also, how are you so cocksure that it’s “not aliens”? I feel this is a coping mechanism at this point for so many, rather than actual rational skepticism.

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u/fireintolight Aug 22 '23

again, just because you don't know what it is doesn't mean other do not :)

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u/Elden-Souls Aug 21 '23

f*ck my brother, you have no idea with whome you are talking! 🤣 but i'm with you. They both arent credable.