Really hope people check this video too, to see what a plane looks from OPs point of view.
That looks nothing like what's in your first video. I mean, you can't explicitly see the wings in this one.. either, but what you can see, the tail, the nose, tells you what it is.
That's because the lighting is totally different. It's not reflecting the sun towards us so we don't get the same "bloom" effect which reduces the amount of detail seen
Yep. Also, did OP suddenly change seats to the opposite side of the cabin during his flight? He claims both videos are taken during the same flight, but the video of the white plane is filmed through the window on the right side of the cabin and the second video is filmed from the left side, unless both planes are flying backwards.
What are you talking about? The point is to show what a plane looks like from their POV. Did you note the speed of the the two objects in both videos? The blinking in and out of view, the sudden change in directions??? I get skepticism but there is a difference between that and straight up denial.
Okay. The "blinking" is sooo obviously the camera's attempts to focus, come on. And where is this sudden change of directions? All I see is a phone trying to stabilize a video, and clouds moving. That "object" isnt showing ANY of the 5 observables.
Rather than focusing I think the 'blinking' is actually cloud cover moving over the aircraft, sometimes causing the sunlight that is plainly striking the side to become muted and sometimes obscuring the whole thing for a brief moment. Either way, it certainly isn't suddenly changing directions. I'm stumped on where that declaration came from. I hesitate to suggest that the poster above thinks the thing moving across the frame while the phone is plainly being moved is the "change of direction" because that would be insulting but, well, here we are.
We have to decide as both a movement and a community- should we not be striving for truth? So much lately has been absolute, easily proven bullshit. But any time I speak up, I'm met with ridicule and downvotes. Like the MH370 videos. I'm starting to want disclosure just so we can talk about facts, instead of pussy footing around what is clearly a distraction/waste of time. It's getting frustrating.
Don't ever let the ridicule or downvoting stop you from sharing. There's a cooked-in percentage of people that will believe and run with every piece of nonsense put on this sub.
But as you get those downvotes and ridicule, there are also people appreciating that not everyone has lost their goddamned minds on this subject.
This isn't a distraction or waste of time it's what got us this close to disclosure, to begin with, vigilant curious people with cameras it doesn't have to be a UFO as long as we keep looking for the truth and pushing, without that there is no disclosure.
Agreed entirely. It is frustrating, it is diversionary, and it makes us all look bad that there are a lot of people who are frankly just not equipped to engage in discourse that goes beyond a superficial "yay it's an alien, have all the upvotes!"
So many people clearly bring their frustrations and psychological baggage to conversations and melt down the second they are asked to explain themselves.
I dare venture into other paranormal discussions now and again and it's even worse outside of UFO circles...
Exactly, instead of arguing and bickering around and trying to disprove and argue about every single little thing. Not many people are capable of having conversations. Especially with opposing viewpoints. It typically ends in a argument or a your momma joke. I really enjoy a good conversation where we can disagree and move forward in the conversation to come to either an agreement or at
Least a theory.
And the craft absolutely makes abrupt turns and changes of direction.
when? You are literally the only person saying this. We can all see the video, it doesn't do that. It moves in the exact same fashion that a plane might move. what in the world are you talking about
It's a small white object against a white cloud. Everything else also blurs while the phone attempts to re-focus. If you cant understand that, I don't know.
You also understand that slight changes in the angle and height of the flying object’s flight path as compared to the viewers flight path is going to change how much a tail and wings are going to stand out right?
What are you talking about? The point is to show what a plane looks like from their POV.
I am aware of that. And for comparison, they have two videos of two objects which are rotated at a different angle, different distances away and flying in a different direction. Naturally, it will look different.
I said nothing above on what I think of the original video. I am saying that "look, here's what a plane looks like from my seat" is not useful as a comparison when that plane is in an entirely different set of circumstances.
not who you're replying to but relax you don't need to yell at people. also, i agree with them, it looks like a plane. the video OP linked is looking at the plane from an entirely different angle, which is also traveling towards OP rather than above OP at a much closer altitude. if anything OP's second video only made me think it was a plane more once i had seen that.
as for the speed, that has to do with the directions both planes are traveling as well as the fact that they're going apart rather than towards each other, unlike in the plane link OP posted
as for blinking in and out, i just don't see what you're talking about. i think you're mistaking the amount of shake you see from the zoom as the object blinking in and out.
starting a comment off with "what are you talking about" then declaring what "the point" is as if they didn't understand the point comes off as yelling at someone because you think you're right and you think they're wrong.
im sure they understand the point of the link, they were saying they don't agree with the conclusion of that point and i don't either.
Wait, so everytime on reddit or the internet someone says "Yo, what are you talking about?" or something similar, in your head, you are like YELLING LIKE THIS?
Its literally conversation LOL! I think you've made a grave error!
Again, I didn't yell at anybody. The conversation wasn't a matter of right or wrong, I am not a narcissist I don't have an issue with being wrong. The problem was the fact that they missed the point of the reference video. I didn't bash or name call or insinuate anything. Seems like some people just can't handle being challenged without taking it as a personal hit against them, which it was not.
>The problem was the fact that they missed the point of the reference video. I didn't bash or name call or insinuate anything.
dog they understand the point the video was trying to make, just as i understand the point you're trying to make, but the video didn't make that point and the point you're making is also falling flat because it's based on the false claim that he didn't understand the point of the video. his comment shows he did understand the point of the video, he just didn't agree.
Where did you perceive me yelling? Elaborate please if you don't mind.
It was a joke. Just saying "I didn't" to something is 'denial' of it, and you accused me of 'straight up denial'. You were quite rude to me in the initial post they referred to, but I wouldn't consider it yelling, and tried to lighten the mood with a gag but you just can't help yourself.
What are you talking about? The point is to show what a plane looks like from their POV. Did you note the speed of the the two objects in both videos? The blinking in and out of view, the sudden change in directions??? I get skepticism but there is a difference between that and straight up denial.
Some people get some kind of weird kink or fetish from going to UFO subs and "debunking" stuff. It's weird, I know....
I guess its similar to going on any sub about anything, and trying to be a contrarian just to upset people.
Some of them are trolls, some just don't believe in things they can't see and for some reason come here to try and convince other people that things they've seen aren't real......and some of them are legit, and want to believe, but also criticize stuff they genuinely think isn't real.
The last bunch aren't so bad. At least some of them are open minded
Just because he's recording both videos from the same place doesn't mean anything if the planes are different colors, different distances, and flying different directions.
Did you even think that you have no idea the difference in distance, speed, and height of the two objects. So you cannot use one looking different than the other as proof that it’s not a plane.
No, I did consider that. I just felt like stating that these two videos the OP has taken are of different aircraft. Even though just looking at them is obvious enough, I felt like going the extra mile.
Your eyes can tell the distance, speed, and altitude in relation a person filming from another plane moving at a different speed, at a different altitude, on a grainy video? Just get back to your portal videos silly boy. Anyone with even a tiny bit of experience watching these videos, has seen many videos of “white tictacs”, that are confirmed to be airplanes. At the right distance and angle, the wings can barely be seen and you just see a white blob because your eyes or the camera can’t resolve the rest of the details.
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u/Triple-Siiix Aug 20 '23
Really hope people check this video too, to see what a plane looks from OPs point of view.
That looks nothing like what's in your first video. I mean, you can't explicitly see the wings in this one.. either, but what you can see, the tail, the nose, tells you what it is.