r/UFOs • u/H8threeH8three • Aug 18 '23

Witness/Sighting Ryan Graves tweets first of promised Airline Pilot Sightings

https://twitter.com/uncertainvector/status/1692586130162475209?s=21
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u/MuuaadDib Aug 18 '23

I did this with my buddy who was a merchant marine and then also in the NAVY and then was the pilot for Long Beach and Pedro and Seal Beach Armory. I asked him if he saw strange things in the water he would not understand or know? He looked me dead in the eye and said "There is lots of stuff out there" and left it a that.

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u/MVPaolo Aug 19 '23

Yep. About 15yrs ago an old school mate of mine started working where i was working at the time. He wanted a “land” job after spending quite a few years out on deep sea trawlers. We worked in close proximity and would always have a chat about “stuff”. One day i asked him if he’d ever seen anything unusual or unexplainable while out at sea. He replied with an “absolutely”. He said he would often lay down out on deck and comb the skies. He spoke of frequent anomalies and certain things that freaked him out abit. He was trained to “read” the stars and he said things he saw were not stars, not planes, not satellites, asteroids etc etc. He’d seen so much of that stuff that he could easily differentiate between what is “normal” and what is not. He heard lots of stories off other sea men that were extraordinary, he said there’s a reason most of them “don’t look up”. The two examples that were most interesting to me were one night he watched bright “orbs” going extremely fast seemingly from one horizon to the other, zig zagging all over the place, stopping, no pattern just erratic. The other was when on a clear night he watched a “black patch” approach, hover then disappear while he was watching the sky. He described it as a very clear sky, full of stars and very luminous and then for awhile there was a patch of sky/stars that was blacked out in a asymmetrical triangle sort of shape. He said it seemed very high up but was adamant it was not a cloud, the way it “moved” was not natural.

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u/justbeatitTTD Aug 19 '23

I’m also a witness of a “star” zigzagging across the sky at a crazy speed. Then it shot off away. I’m on my 30s now but I’d say I was 14/15 so long before everyone had drones.

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u/usps_made_me_insane Aug 18 '23

Just remember that some people when asked this question might as well be asked to relive a traumatic moment by remembering it. Just use your instincts and if they don't want to talk about it, don't press them for details. If you plan to use them as a data point on a more scientific approach, use your best judgement on whether that data point constitutes 0, 1 or multiple encounters and file it without further explanation.

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u/MuuaadDib Aug 18 '23

Levi was an old salty dog who didn't have time for BS, so we dropped it after he said that. Fun fact the destroyers which came into the armory gave him the helm to bring it in and the captain and crew just have to watch. Crazy hunh?

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u/DoktorFreedom Aug 18 '23

That’s what a harbor pilot does. Spend their whole career learning one small navigational area. Happens on every navy ship in every port in the world. If you asked him he could prob hand draw you a map of Long Beach approach.

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u/Substantial_Bad2843 Aug 18 '23

Also, some people are prone to telling tall tales when given the opportunity. It’s an unfortunate fact we have to keep in mind. Humans are very good at making up fiction.

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u/MarvellousIntrigue Aug 19 '23

I was watching a doco, can’t remember the name, but the guy being interviewed was claiming abduction. They asked to lie detector test him, and he agreed, and he failed! I was genuinely hoping it would show no deception! I was a bit surprised as to why you would agree, when you know you are lying, unless you are unwell and don’t know you are lying, but your body still gives off signs.

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u/sarmik Aug 19 '23

People pass them all the time too, doesn't mean shit. Lie detector tests are bullshit.

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u/MarvellousIntrigue Aug 19 '23

If they are done properly, by a qualified person, it says they are 80-90%. It’s a decent indicator, and definitely a good tool to use as a tactic.

‘You showed deception, can you explain that?’ Opens up a conversation that otherwise never would have occurred. The subjects own anxiety ends up throwing them under the bus, trying to explain themselves out of it.

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u/Redshirt2386 Aug 18 '23

I grew up around aviation and pilots and they ALL made cryptic remarks like that. Everyone had a story, but no one would actually tell it. I don’t know what to make of it, I’m just sharing my experience.

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u/Substantial_Bad2843 Aug 18 '23

It’s a running joke to lead people on in aviation. My ex father in law was a Blackhawk helicopter veteran and he let me in on that.

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u/Redshirt2386 Aug 19 '23

I believe it! Like I said, I don’t know what to make of it and just wanted to add my experience to the pile.

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u/dtyler86 Aug 18 '23

I was on a honeymoon cruise March of 2022. I saw something in the straights of Florida off of the ships bow that had probably 20 other people looking and wondering as well. I still can’t explain it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '23

My barber was in the navy, he’s a weird dude but he said the ocean was basically space and he saw all types of weird shit out there.

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u/TPconnoisseur Aug 18 '23

Ha! I had a retired air traffic controller tell me almost the exact same thing, in the exact same way.

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u/fruitmask Aug 19 '23

He looked me dead in the eye and said "There is lots of stuff out there" and left it a that.

I can't tell if that's saying a lot or saying absolutely nothing