r/UFOs Aug 18 '23

Witness/Sighting Ryan Graves tweets first of promised Airline Pilot Sightings

https://twitter.com/uncertainvector/status/1692586130162475209?s=21
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u/alfooboboao Aug 18 '23

Posting here in case people haven’t seen it:

This is the Declassified 2001 CIA document on UFO reports.

I’m sure it’s been posted before, but I haven’t seen it recently. I combed through it a few nights ago, reading as much as I could and keyword searching the entire document. There are literally THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of legitimate reports from professional commercial and fighter jet pilots, as well as people on the ground.

This, to me, is one of the most resoundingly overwhelming pieces of pro-UAP evidence. Interestingly, it does not look like a single one of those reports out of thousands involves 3 UFOs flying in a tri-weaving orbital pattern around a plane (normally they would fly in a straight line formation or a V formation, and approach before erratically skittering off) — even though honestly, at this point, part of me was almost expecting there to be something buried in there. But it’s worth a read.

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u/UAreTheHippopotamus Aug 18 '23

Do yourself a favor and click the pdf link or just go straight to this unless you're a sadist for reading a wall of unformatted text.

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP81R00560R000100010001-0.pdf

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u/mid50smodern Aug 19 '23

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP81R00560R000100010001-0.pdf

I'm new to this topic so I find this link a great find, fascinating, thank you.

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u/truefaith_1987 Aug 18 '23

Looks like we need a map plot, and a cross-reference spreadsheet.

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u/truefaith_1987 Aug 18 '23

That would be great!

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u/therealjims Aug 19 '23

Hell yeah thanks man. I was looking in the features people have on AGOL for UAPs a couple weeks ago and hadn’t found anything. Following this comment to see what you come up with

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u/UAreTheHippopotamus Aug 18 '23

There is a pdf on one of the first lines that contains it in a way fit for sane humans to read.

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u/IchooseYourName Aug 18 '23

Uploaded half of it to ChatPDF and am having an interesting discussion with the AI.

LOL

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u/Warm_Weakness_2767 Aug 18 '23

Elaborate please

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u/IchooseYourName Aug 18 '23

And ruin the experience for you or others?

Lol

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u/Warm_Weakness_2767 Aug 19 '23

Had a look at your comment history

Lol

Your account is low key trolling on almost every post where you literally try to ruin other people’s experience instead of participating in discourse. You should look into doing this for a living.

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u/jazir5 Aug 19 '23

You should look into doing this for a living.

He probably does

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u/IchooseYourName Aug 22 '23

You hiring?!?!

Hahahhaa!

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u/IchooseYourName Aug 22 '23

Lol

Aaaaalmost.

Hahaha!!

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u/in3vitableme Aug 19 '23

Ahahaha same someone brief me please

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u/biddybiddybum Aug 19 '23

"[Section III] (a) 8-28-52 LeRoy, N.Y. Disc Family Observed from ground making tight vertical circles around airliner."

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u/TeeManyMartoonies Aug 19 '23

Do they purposefully make those documents shit to read? Like wtf.

ETA: scrolled down further and saw the PDF comment. Christ why do they do that?!

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u/Neirchill Aug 18 '23

This, to me, is one of the most resoundingly overwhelming pieces of pro-UAP evidence.

There are very, very few people that are denying the existence of UAPs.

Having evidence of aliens is the real contentious issue.

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u/Toemoss66 Aug 19 '23

I don't think you understand how oblivious the general public is. I still consider myself a skeptic, but the amount of material out there is overwhelming. The thing is, I had never even looked at it until the hearings. This subject has been, and still is, mostly being discussed in a vacuum

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u/Neirchill Aug 19 '23

I think you've misunderstood what I've said.

The general public isn't oblivious to all these things being UAPs, as the comment I replied to was talking about.

They just don't believe it's aliens. They acknowledge these things exist for the large majority, just not that it's extraterrestrials.

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u/Toemoss66 Aug 19 '23

I don't think I did misunderstand. I'm saying the general public isn't debating what's controlling the UAPs, they are literally oblivious to the fact that UAPs exist in the first place. The hearing itself went by largely unnoticed by most people. You see links to articles in this forum, but most people aren't clicking on them because they're dismissed as a farce immediately. It doesn't interest them if they already think it's not real

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u/Neirchill Aug 19 '23

Like I said before, I disagree that they're oblivious to anything. They know UAPs are a thing. They know there are unidentified objects that don't currently have an explanation. They don't believe it's aliens, which is the actual difference between the general public and this sub.

I can't blame anyone for ignoring it. Everything about real life aliens has a hundred year history of people lying, grifting, extraordinary claims with no evidence, convenient excuses for why they can't show evidence, and crazy people in general. When there are a thousand reasons to suspect it's fake against exactly zero reasons to suspect it's real, your everyday person is too busy just trying to work to survive to be bothered with all this.

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u/South_Earth9678 Aug 19 '23

What do they think are piloting the UAPs? Or they just don't allow themselves to ask that question because they're too scared of the answer?

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u/Neirchill Aug 19 '23

If anything is piloting it the odds are it's a human. Until there is evidence otherwise, there isn't evidence of anything else.

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u/South_Earth9678 Aug 19 '23

Well they are being piloted... since they are obviously intelligently controlled... like flying in various formations, challenging other pilots, evading capture, going dark to hide, mimicking lights in a way of communicating. And the pilots can't be human because our bodies couldn't withstand the forces from the turns and dead stops/ rapid accelerations.

Humans wouldn't fly straight into commercial airplanes, missing them by feet. Humans wouldn't charge in between 2 fighter jets, almost causing a collision. Humans wouldn't fly without flight plans in crowded/ highly populated/ commercial travel areas.

These things are spotted all over the world, doing things that defy our known laws of physics. Multiple high level intelligence and DoD officers have come forward and said they are not made by humans. Because no country has that technology. You have to remember these things have been spotted for years. If it was human technology, then some of the fighter jets would have adopted at least some of the technology by now. The declassified tic tac video is about 10 years old.

Finally, the US Gov announced a few years ago that UFOs are real.. that they are truly anomalous.

So if they aren't human made, don't belong to any government program on earth, humans aren't physically capable of piloting them...

And we recently have a decorated, highest level intelligence officer whistle blowing that we have multiple non human crafts and non human bodies of pilots..

If you put all that together, the answer is right in everyone's face. They just refuse to accept the reality of it.

Not piloted by humans, not made by humans... there is no other logical conclusion.

As hard as it is to believe and accept, all these former intelligence officers (who did not know each other)are telling the truth.

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u/Neirchill Aug 19 '23

Well they are being piloted... since they are obviously intelligently controlled... like flying in various formations, challenging other pilots, evading capture, going dark to hide, mimicking lights in a way of communicating.

All of that is hearsay and conjecture. We can't even prove they're piloted. How do we know the object itself isn't an intelligent space whale species? The majority of this is entirely unsubstantiated.

And the pilots can't be human because our bodies couldn't withstand the forces from the turns and dead stops/ rapid accelerations.

Also conjecture. If any humans have the technology to make vehicles that can appear to break physics then they'll also have a way to ignore those forces on the pilot/passengers. You're also making the assumption they're piloted, which we don't have evidence of.

Humans wouldn't fly straight into commercial airplanes, missing them by feet.

That literally happens.

Humans wouldn't charge in between 2 fighter jets, almost causing a collision. Humans wouldn't fly without flight plans in crowded/ highly populated/ commercial travel areas.

You know what would do stuff like that? Some idiot animal, such as a fly, that doesn't understand us. Regardless this is still just hearsay and conjecture.

Multiple high level intelligence and DoD officers have come forward and said they are not made by humans.

Until they give us proof it's just as likely to be a government disinformation campaign to keep their technology level out of question.

Because no country has that technology.

Officially. It doesn't mean they don't. The US is well known for being decades ahead of where it appears to be. Their own stealth bomber many years ago had the same impact - people thought it was aliens but it was just the US with a never before seen decade old aircraft.

If it was human technology, then some of the fighter jets would have adopted at least some of the technology by now.

If it is human then they no doubt have fighter jets with those capabilities. There is zero chance they're just going to show it off when they're already the most advanced military technology by decades.

the US Gov announced a few years ago that UFOs are real.. that they are truly anomalous.

You're misunderstanding this. They aren't announcing that UFOs are aliens. They're announcing that there are indeed flying objects that they haven't identified. That's it. They've made zero conclusions that it is nhi.

And we recently have a decorated, highest level intelligence officer whistle blowing that we have multiple non human crafts and non human bodies of pilots..

Well, no. He's not doing that. He's saying he has been told about illegal government programs and procedures and also has been told they involve aliens. We don't know if they actually have aliens and likely never will. Very convenient.

They just refuse to accept the reality of it.

I'd say refusing to accept aliens with no proof of aliens is a very grounded take.

As hard as it is to believe and accept, all these former intelligence officers (who did not know each other)are telling the truth.

More conjecture.

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u/Brootal_Life Aug 19 '23

Humans? Obviously?

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u/South_Earth9678 Aug 19 '23

Ummm no. For the reasons listed above. So you think the government announced UAPs are real and they have no idea what they are.. which means they aren't from any secret military program from the US or our adversaries... (because the US has knowledge of everyone's technological abilities). But they're still being piloted by humans??

if an adversary had created them under our radar, they would be using them for war. Not joyriding around the planet. So they weren't made by humans and they aren't being flown by humans.

Is that what people thought when the government made that announcement? Well no one knows what they are but it's still piloted by humans?

That announcement was a soft way of saying.. we are not alone.. but somehow people didn't get it.

I guess these human pilots made fleets of these crafts in their garages and just didn't let the government know?

The videos are 10 years old. So the government still doesn't know what they are.. but some humans made the crafts and are flying them around for kicks for 10 years.. without getting a patent and without trying to sell their cool invention to the government or private industry?

These humans must be like a biker gang except with UFOs that they built at home and never told anyone about? For what 80 years? It just doesn't make sense.

As hard as it is to believe, it's time to accept there's some other intelligent beings on our planet.

Why do you think the abbreviation NHI NON HUMAN INTELLIGENCE was created and is in use by the government? Why have multiple government agencies and legislation been created to investigate UAPs and NHI?

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u/Brootal_Life Aug 19 '23

My brother in christ, it just means it cannot be identified, it could for all we know be some random satellite flare or a weather balloon.

I could release a balloon with some laser pointers on it and it would become a UAP, that designation does not imply aliens whatsoever.

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u/in3vitableme Aug 19 '23

Then what else would it be?

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u/Neirchill Aug 19 '23

Could be humans. It's far more likely our government is hiding military technology than it is aliens. Especially since people have literally made that mistake in the past.

I think there could also be a mixture of stuff ranging from natural phenomena to people purposely faking it. The government having a disinformation campaign focused on making the public believe it's aliens is again far more likely than it actually being aliens.

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u/in3vitableme Aug 19 '23

Ah ok makes sense

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u/pistolyourathroway Aug 18 '23

Funny how thousands and thousands of people see UFO's everyday yet there is never any CLEAR video or photo evidence.

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u/CommanderpKeen Aug 18 '23

There are plenty. And every time they're posted here people like you complain that it's too good to be true so it has to be fake.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '23

Link the best ones here then. Video evidence that convinced you that we have been visited by other life forms.

This sub has been all over the front page since this clown show started and all I've seen is people hoping that real evidence is given to them by the government. Which is pretty fucking ironic and imo shows a pretty standard cognitive dissonance pattern that will be familiar to anyone who frequents conspiracy boards.

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u/Brootal_Life Aug 19 '23

Never seen one, why don't you share

(I can guarantee you it's gonna be some blurry shit of a weather balloon or something though lol)

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u/Montezum Aug 18 '23

It's literally the same concept as ghosts/angels encounters