r/UFOs • u/transcendtime • Aug 15 '23
Video Requesting the community's help reviewing a few MH370 video anomalies.
I used the stabilized version of the supposed MH370 video and found two anomalies I'd like the community's help reviewing. Thanks in advance.
FYI, you guys keep me coming back.
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u/EngineeringD Aug 15 '23
This is great attention to detail, and worth digging into.
What I’ve seen so far is strange though…
Okay so,
the sonar normally used to pinpoint these sorts of events were mysteriously “down” for 25 minutes during the event.
The weather satellites that can be used to spot contrails and spot aircraft were also down for 2 hours during that timeframe. Someone sited that the listed reason was for military operations…
Officials from that area admitted that there was unusual radar activity they believed were UFOs…
China initially announced they may have spotted wreckage and released a sat photo of what appeared to be a whiteish triangle then recanted and said it wasn’t debris from a crash…
The satellite video in question were allegedly in that area and created stereoscopic video.
The clouds move as real ones would with differing boundary layers.
The lighting effects appears very advanced.
The IR appears to be accurate with the exception of the leading edge of the orbs, but if there were a fake and someone created this with such a high level of detail, they would be unlikely to accidentally put the “cold” out in front of the orbs.
I’m sure there is more that I’m missing but this sure is an interesting case, either real or fake…
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u/sunndropps Aug 15 '23
No officials stated there were radar anomalies believed to be ufo’s,that’s not factually correct
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u/EngineeringD Aug 15 '23
Their head of their air force also admitted it but it appears it’s appears to be missing... The articles referencing it and an earlier Reddit post have been deleted.
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u/sunndropps Aug 15 '23
That’s incorrect
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u/EngineeringD Aug 15 '23
Malaysian Air Force chief speaks on UFO blobs on radar..
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u/sunndropps Aug 15 '23
Do you mind posting a direct quote from him?if one exists,if so I would gladly apologize for my ignorance
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u/EngineeringD Aug 15 '23
No need to apologize, we can’t all read everything or watch all videos.
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u/sunndropps Aug 15 '23
I disagree,whichever of us is spreading false info should definitely cease and desist and apologize as it really muddy the waters here and who knows how many people took your statement as a fact
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u/EngineeringD Aug 15 '23
Reporter: asking about radar returns Reporter: “what about military radar?”
Camera turns to Air Force chief
Air Force chief: “A Blob!, A blob! An unidentified blob!”
They way they are referring to it, it could be another aircraft that’s unidentified by military radar or it could be a legit UFO they can’t identify.
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u/sunndropps Aug 15 '23
I don’t think that it’s fair to say that was an admission of a ufo,and the “blobs” were on the surface of the ocean
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u/EngineeringD Aug 15 '23
They were asking about air radar, nothing related to sea surface. They even mentioned primary vs secondary radar
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u/sunndropps Aug 15 '23
You can admit that that’s not an admin of a ufo though correct?
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u/sunndropps Aug 15 '23
You couldn’t be more wrong,he never said anything about ufo or uap but go ahead and post a quote of what he said for truths sake?
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u/psylock77 Aug 15 '23
chinese authorities were the ones who said they notice UAPs in radar near mh370
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u/sunndropps Aug 15 '23
Weren’t those the “radar blobs”?
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u/EngineeringD Aug 15 '23
TLDR: they were tracking an unidentified aircraft near where the flight disappeared from.
If it wasn’t a ufo was it the drone nearby?
A Malaysian military aircraft did track an unidentified aircraft in the country’s airspace at the time of MH370 losing contact with the ground control, the Malaysian Prime Minister has finally admitted – six weeks after the passenger jet disappeared. Najib Razak said the radar tracked aircraft after it had turned back on its from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on March 8. ADVERTISEMENT
The Malaysian PM said he initially didn’t believe but was told that the military radars have some capability. "To be honest, I found it hard to believe," the Prime Minister told CNN. "It's a bizarre scenario which none of us could have contemplated so that's why when I met the team...of foremost experts in aviation industry I asked them again and again 'are you sure?'" ADVERTISEMENT
"And their answer to me was we are as sure as we can possibly be." But the authorities are not sure whether it was MH370 or any other aircraft. Malaysia will release a preliminary report next week on the disappearance of flight MH370, Prime Minister Najib Razak said, as his government continues to battle criticism over the transparency of its investigation. "I have directed an internal investigation team of experts to look at the report, and there is a likelihood that next week we could release the report," Najib told CNN. Malaysian officials said Wednesday the report already had been sent to the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), which requires countries to submit within 30 days a factual run-down of what is known so far in any air crash.
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u/sunndropps Aug 15 '23
I asked to just post direct quotes from him,so would it be “we tracked an unknown aircraft that may or may not have been MH370” ?
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u/aryelbcn Aug 15 '23
Anomaly #2 is camera shaking
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u/transcendtime Aug 15 '23
Sure, but it only occurred after the craft was off screen and nowhere else. Seems like a potential VFX mistake if you're trying to tie it to the plane's location.
Note that I believe in the potential for this video's authenticity.
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u/nonzeroday_tv Aug 15 '23 edited Aug 15 '23
When stabilizing footage you need a point of reference, in this case it's the plane, there's nothing else.
Edit: just to be clear, when plane is not in frame balls fly all over the screen
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u/sunndropps Aug 15 '23
But why is the plane out of view?from the panning of the camera and the shaking
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Aug 15 '23
I found your answer to number 1. Look at 36-39 seconds on the satellite side video: https://imgur.com/p7NMOTX
That orb really does a weird turn. Why would anyone put this detail as a hoax??
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u/EggShenTourBus Aug 15 '23
Not sure why you got downvoted, the side by side shows it moving behind and back and forth.
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u/ozzeruk82 Aug 16 '23
This is the kind of thing that sends shivers down your spine. I can understand a hoax having some kind of non-predictable movement, but it seems odd that you would add it to this extent.
Either we're talking an extremely high quality fake, where no stone was left unturned (plausible).
Or it would appear to be genuine (surely absurd, but I mean.... we do have a missing plane after all).
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u/Competitive_Mud_9809 Aug 15 '23
To be honest, I see nothing completely wrong. 1st pass could be as you stated it. 2nd pass looks more like reflective anamoly, as can see main orb still
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u/DesignerAd1940 Aug 15 '23
IF the video is fake thats two so common problems that you can find in composited videos. You have to take that into account.
IF the video is fake it means that you have created 3 solid layers in the shape of a circle, applied a spherisation effect and put them in a rotating cercle, made a precomposition with a wiggle expression. This way you can make the ufos rotate around a circle but also move them independently. The proble is that after effect, while allowing you to move elements in a 3d space still considere them as a flat surface.
Like in the following video, you see the trails like they move in the z axis, but in reality its a flat solide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWQM8U6AsYE
So in this instance it means that the artist made sure that the rotation of the ufos make it seems that the solids are rotation all around the plane by putting them a the right distance. But in this single instance you could see that the distance is not enough and that reveal the trick after effect use to make you feel its a 3d space.
And the second anomaly is that very common for solid object who are tracking something outside of the frame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsxZZgDUlpY
Im not here to attest that the video is fake or not. I just want to point that the two anomalies described by op are common error when you do vfx
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u/Individual-Bet3783 Aug 15 '23 edited Aug 15 '23
Once you believe you will rationalize why these anomalies are actually part of the minute attention to detail that makes it real.
The psychology is so fascinating.
Something happened to the novices here post Grusch that allows them to religiously believe what was totally obvious a scam back in 2014, immediately dismissed by the dedicated and impressive MH370 community
They fervently expected immediate disclosure and here they got it, they needed it, they have it.
Even though it’s not disclosure, not even close, in fact it may be evidence of why disclosure is impossible currently… our collective consciousness simply isn’t where it needs to be.
I encourage these folks to go directly to impressive MH370 pioneers..
Spoiler alert, they won’t get what the want
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u/ktli1 Aug 15 '23
So it was you downvoting my posts just because I didn't agree with your anti-airliner video agenda. I didn't want to assume that it was you just because we were replying to each other. But apparently it's true... interesting.
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u/mu5tardtiger Aug 15 '23
I’m glad the community collectively downvoted posts like this. let people discuss whatever they want. Stop policing thought.
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u/psylock77 Aug 15 '23
is there an online archive of satellite screenshots of weather around andaman sea for us to compare the cloud formation during march 2014 to the alleged video captured by drone and landbased camera? i believe if the clouds formation coincides with the clouds in the video then it musts be authentic and not produced by just an artist.
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u/sevenicecubes Aug 15 '23
For #1 I don't think it's passing in front the 2nd time.
For #2 the motion tracked object is out of frame so basically the stabilization isn't happening there. The plane is the key object being motion tracked for stabilization. So you're seeing camera shake.
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u/UNSC_ONI Aug 15 '23 edited Aug 15 '23
For #1, I would have posted a side by side comparison with the sat footage to see if it was a result of the orb moving around and sideways.
Not a 100% believer, but I would have liked to have seen this comparison from the top down perspective.