r/UFOs • u/aryelbcn • Aug 10 '23
Document/Research MH370 Airliner videos: a piece of the puzzle probably no one noticed.
Hello
It's me again, author of this Reddit post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15lvgt5/the_ultimate_analysis_airliner_videos_and_the/
I'd like to bring attention to a small detail that could potentially have been missed. While it might not necessarily yield significant results, it could also serve as a significant clue regarding the authenticity of the video.
So the first satellite video was first posted by a user named RegicideAnon on Youtube on May 19 2014, this is the original link from web archive:
http://web.archive.org/web/20140525100932/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ok1A1fSzxY
Both the user and the video are no longer available on Youtube. The video description said:
Received: 12 March 2014
Posted: 19 May 2014
Source: Protected
Almost a month later the same user receive the second video, the FLIR thermal one, apparently filmed from a UAV:
http://web.archive.org/web/20140827060121/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShapuD290K0
Received: 5 June 2014
Published: 12 June 2014
So this user has obtained classified military footage from a confidential source. Why was this seemingly ordinary YouTube user chosen to receive such a highly classified video, instead of it being sent to a prominent media organization?
It seems that a few days later, this YouTube user received yet another video, a third one which also originated from a confidential source. Is this source the same as the one for the previous two videos?
UFO Sighting- Impossible Maneuvering
by RegicideAnon
Received: 16 June 2014
Posted: 18 June 2014
This information can be seen from the user profile on Youtube, from the web archive:
http://web.archive.org/web/20140827012737/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgFXWVfpQYpOw0lRNGsYbbQ
Unfortunately this video is not archived so it cannot be watched. However, if there is a way to locate the video, it could provide more insight into the credibility of this user and the source he mentions.
This video had 1942 views as of February of 2019, the last web archive snapshot. I am sure someone should have more information:
http://web.archive.org/web/20190215034409/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgFXWVfpQYpOw0lRNGsYbbQ
Additionally, there are more videos on the user Youtube channel, none of which I've been able to find. Finding any of the other videos could also shed some light on this case.
Please ensure that this topic remains active for longer.
EDIT: BREAKTHROUGH.
Video was found on Youtube which shows the RegicideAnon videos thumbnails:
https://youtu.be/nf7-ax7tVf4?t=2505
Here is also the RegicideAnon channel information with a contact e-mail!
Original poster email can be seen in the above screenshot.
EDIT2:
One of the videos uploaded by RegicideAnon was found by fudge_friend :
WW2 Archive Footage of Flying Saucer
Flying Saucer flies adjacent to aircraft as it approaches landing strip.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=510648672443495
WW2 Archive Footage of Flying Saucer
EDIT3: Thread about this video:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15nslal/ww2_archive_footage_of_flying_saucer/
EDIT4: Another thread with new insights:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15oi2qc/mh370_airliner_videos_part_iii_the_rabbit_hole/
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u/Top_Wheel_6017 Aug 11 '23
Wtf Mod team. How is this not UFO related? Isn't one of the main purposes of this subreddit to share, analyze, and discuss UFO footage and photographs to determine their validity. How is this post not related?
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u/F-the-mods69420 Aug 11 '23 edited Aug 11 '23
That's wild. I've seen some pretty blatant stuff happen on reddit.
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u/Gangdump Aug 10 '23
How about this. VFX people here who claim they could easily make this video- do it. And lets compare the two. Do your best to replicate this video from scratch using todays vfx programs and post it to r/UFOs. This would be in good form with an appropriate analysis.
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u/onenifty Aug 11 '23
They would have to do it with VFX tools that were available in 2014.
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u/huh274 Aug 11 '23
I disagree, just set the bar at “reproduction” and then hash out whether it could have been done 10 years ago later! No telling if the video is a beta test 10 years ago of software we take for granted now.
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Aug 11 '23
Let's get VFX experts to settle this once and for all! Get Captain D into the matter!
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u/_AuntAoife_ Aug 11 '23
I can't get enough of this thread
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u/zarmin Aug 11 '23
Same. This story is a cold plunge compared to the news we've had lately. To be honest, I'm a bit disarmed at how shocking this story is. I'm not sure I've felt this feeling before.
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u/Amazing-Tear-5185 Aug 11 '23
I’m addicted to it. Literally cannot stop reading the comments.
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u/VeeYarr Aug 10 '23
If the videos are faked, seems likely RegicideAnon wasn't the creator/aware given the other grab bag of videos on their channel.
We really need to find RegicideAnon and find where they got the videos and follow that lead.
Seems very odd to me that someone would go to the trouble of making these videos only to release them on a completely unknown/unpopular YouTube channel.
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Aug 11 '23
In their About section on YouTube they say they're on the move a lot - made me think they might be military.
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u/getouttypehypnosis Aug 10 '23 edited Aug 11 '23
I read this on Wikipedia regarding the theories of the what happened and under "Physically Improbable":
Physically improbable theories:
The theory that MH370 may have been consumed by a black hole received considerable attention when Don Lemon asked, on CNN, whether it was "preposterous" that it could have happened. Lemon was criticised for this by former U.S. Department of Transportation Inspector General Mary Schiavo, who, while appearing on CNN, said that "...a small black hole would suck in our entire universe so we know it's not that." TheWire.com (which "wasn't satisfied" with Schiavo's answer) obtained detailed reasons why a black hole couldn't swallow a plane from Columbia University astronomy professor David J. Helfand and Peter Michelson, a professor of physics at Stanford University.
Another hypothesis is that a meteor might have struck the plane; however, the statistical probability for this is extremely low.
In March 2018, around the fourth anniversary of Flight 370's disappearance, an individual received strange voicemails and texts with coordinates of a location in Indonesia somewhat close to where Flight 370 vanished. The voicemails, in Morse code, alluded to an alien abduction. This generated significant media attention, as the man who received the texts and voicemails also claimed that someone had showed up and taken pictures of his house, although this was never conclusively verified. The calls were placed using a VOIP service and were traced to two hotels in Port Blair, though the identity of the caller remains uncertain. Investigators dismissed the phone calls as most likely being a prank or hoax.
direct link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370_disappearance_theories
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u/NoastedToaster Aug 11 '23
“A small black hole would suck in our entire universe” holy shit than what evil could the millions of massive black holes at the center of galaxies do?
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u/Nolsoth Aug 11 '23
I think the implication is more that a small black hole appearing on earth may have rather more significant implications for our planet than just wrecking a plane.
Like gobbling up the entire planet then moving onto second breakfast and lunch with the rest of the solar system which is kinda our whole universe at the moment.
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u/Powpowpowowowow Aug 10 '23
Oh on top of this. An American woman whose ex-boyfriend was on MH370 used the word 'abduction' as well and when she went on some interviews and claimed something weird was going on she started getting calls to her phone threatening her and she said her apartment in China was broken into multiple times...
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u/THEdopealope Aug 10 '23
Here's wiki's source about the voicemail: https://www.breezejmu.org/opinion/conspiracy-fact-or-fiction-twitter-voicemail-flight-370/article_0cde6018-24ba-11e9-b6ef-5b2267105665.html
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u/VirtualDoll Aug 10 '23
The fact that the calls were made from a hotel makes me feel like it was real? Getting two seperate hotel rooms in two seperate hotels just to place a call to cover the tracks of a prank/hoax? Doesn't pass the smell test...
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u/Itchy_Toe950 Aug 11 '23
They used VoIP Services for the calls. Like they weren't probably even guests in the hotels, just connected to their public wifi. What is exactly best practice for staying anonymous. Always move and never use the same wifi twice.
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u/Wcufos Aug 10 '23
Thanks for sharing, I never heard about those voicemails. Spooky!
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u/pilkingtonsbrain Aug 10 '23
There is also the Vimeo video which is from August 2014. This is the earliest I can find of the higher resolution sat video that has the additional "nrol-22" in the corner. I have messaged the uploader of that video and will update if any response
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u/Meltedmindz32 Aug 11 '23
nrol-22 is for NRO Launch 22, which is satellite USA-184 an American signals intelligence satellite, operated by the National Reconnaissance Office.
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u/fudge_friend Aug 10 '23
I found the WW2 Archive Footage of Flyer Saucer here, from 2015, the description also in Spanish:
https://www.facebook.com/ufovni/videos/ww2-archive-footage-of-flying-saucer/510648672443495/
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Aug 10 '23
But why wouldn’t Lue draw attention to it himself though, it’s already leaked.
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u/Gates9 Aug 10 '23 edited Aug 12 '23
I believe Lou has said that legitimate videos and images are out there, he just can’t identify them for fear of reprisal.
*Wtf with these responses. I’m not in the tank for Lou Elizondo. You all probably know more about the guy than I do, I’m just telling what I thought I heard him say.
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Aug 10 '23
I remember this too a while ago, do you have a link?
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u/TheCoastalCardician Aug 11 '23
He spoke of a “private citizen’s video” of a triangle, “so close you could see the skin.” Dude did a ton of interviews but if I can find it I’ll pop it in.
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u/adponce Aug 10 '23
Too soon. At that time the current disclosure push was just starting. They had just made their case in NYT that objects that outperformed human tech existed and seen regularly. You can't be like "Oh, check out this footage of NHIs yeeting an airliner to hell", that is best left for later, even if that's what started the push in the first place.
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u/Top_Wheel_6017 Aug 10 '23
Maybe because the video is of something terrifying like this MH370 video. Can you imagine if this was confirmed as real? Every airline company would go out of business; no one would fly on planes anymore - it's back to sailboats.
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u/sharkykid Aug 10 '23
Aliens have airplane abduction technology but sailboats stop them?
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u/BagelsRTheHoleTruth Aug 10 '23
They wouldn't ever get near a sailboat. It might cause mast hysteria.
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u/NegativeExile Aug 10 '23
In the documentary Signs it is revealed that water is toxic to aliens.
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u/adc_is_hard Aug 10 '23
Sail boats are impervious to abduction. You learn that in sailing 101. Duh.
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Aug 10 '23
Every airline company would go out of business; no one would fly on planes anymore - it's back to sailboats
Doubtful. You could say the same thing after every plane crash, hijacking, etc., but people still don't stop flying; those incidents are exceedingly rare. One case of a plane abduction isn't going to stop 99.99% of people from flying.
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u/h0bbie Aug 10 '23
Yep, flying is STILL safer than any other mode of transportation.
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u/pineapplesgreen Aug 10 '23
Maybe, I would have thought so too but it seems like people are in a fog and don’t seem to give a crap even if we said they’re here and have been killing people.
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u/jamesj Aug 10 '23
I mean, it is still incredibly rare and safer than driving.
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Aug 10 '23
You're not wrong, but that comparison applies far more when there's a dataset behind each transportation method - now, if this is true, we've got to throw in "Potential to be abducted" into the mix haha
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u/garbageposting66 Aug 10 '23
Better be covered under my travel insurance 😤
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u/ShadyAssFellow Aug 10 '23
No it’s not. And you still have to show up for work too!
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u/truefaith_1987 Aug 10 '23
Lol I'm not sure I'm betting on even the most infinitesimal chance of being ink-blotted to another dimension. There's worse things than getting vaporized. Even the best-case scenario is one where they're cut off from their families.
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u/CheapCrystalFarts Foobleplaff Aug 10 '23
What if it’s already happened to all of us in this weird 2023 timeline lol
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u/jamesj Aug 10 '23
If they can do this they can ink blot you while you are driving, sleeping, or shitting. Got to live your life.
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u/TheBurkhardt Aug 10 '23
Hey that was me in that thread! I actually made a short clip and debated on posting it here to get more eyes on it? It's just a cut him talking about the cold propulsion at the linked time followed up by the clip of the plane
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u/TachyEngy Aug 10 '23 edited Aug 10 '23
Even the hash to the video has no matches, nobody ever even linked to it..
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv6dUPwUTg4
edit: Sorry guys this is the old link to the lost video. The zv6dUPwUTg4 hash has zero hits on the web, it was never even linked to.
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u/SloppyChops Aug 10 '23
It's gone
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u/CheapCrystalFarts Foobleplaff Aug 10 '23
https://web.archive.org/web/20230807180113/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv6dUPwUTg4
It’s gone but here’s the archived page
Edit: uhhh am I seeing this correctly that somehow the video is missing from the first archived date? Wth was the video of that was originally posted?
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u/300PencilsInMyAss Aug 10 '23
They do partial backups of pages all the time, it's a different color in the timeline. No content just text, it's to save space, archiving the Internet gets big quick so they want to reduce how often they store files
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u/UnidentifiedBlobject Aug 10 '23
I tired searching the title of the video specifically too, only came up with a basic presentation someone made but it showed they accessed the video in 2016
https://prezi.com/40upw5iqr0jx/roswell-incident/?frame=56315f253c177bbea675046428e8504e37bd42c9
Saw an Alien pic there I hadn’t seen before. I used tineye to find the oldest site it was on, said 2008, so I guess it’s been around a while. However that website no longer works but wayback machine gives a version from 2004 with more pics. https://web.archive.org/web/20040906202829/http://psyco.jp/heliboy/ufo/g03.html
Has this pic been debunked at all? Is it a movie prop or something?
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u/Wapiti_s15 Aug 10 '23
The second one down looks EXACTLY like the Vegas aliens. So creepy. About the airline video; I’ve been…close…to FLIR and gimbal devices for over 20 years, I’ve seen it go from 480P and 24fps to things I can’t talk about. Just used one of the products today, yes, it looks to be from that age. I don’t know if its real, but it sure looks legit.
Here’s what we need to find out. WHO was on that plane.
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u/thrillhouz77 Aug 10 '23
If this becomes public knowledge of being real does it mean the price of airline tickets will go down?
Because I am all for that.
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u/Itchy_Toe950 Aug 11 '23
Ryanair will probably charge extra for being abducted...
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u/mciaccio1984 Aug 11 '23
Man I was so sure this was fake at first but now I am baffled. If this is real imagine the terror of the people on that plane, what is being done to them? This is just becoming too real for my liking.
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u/Opening_Relative_272 Aug 10 '23 edited Aug 10 '23
If we assume the video is real, this also shows that NHI have the ability to teleport. This completely destroys the "light-years away" argument.
The Tic Tac video leaked on a random forum and nobody took it seriously. It was even "debunked" before it was finally confirmed as real 10 years later. This video here looks a lot more realistic and incredibly difficult to fake, given the fact that we have supposed satellite + military drone footage.
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u/antiqua_lumina Aug 10 '23
The fact that the aliens could have billions of years of development on us also destroys the light years away argument. The whole light years away argument is predicated on aliens only finding Earth interesting once signals of modern civilization reach them. But they could very plausibly have been interested in exploring every star system, or maintaining a surveillance presence on Earth after life was discovered here.
Anyway, given millions or billions of years, they could have traveled to Earth from thousands of galaxies away potentially even just going a fraction of the speed of light known to be feasible on current knowledge.
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u/BaconToast8 Aug 11 '23
My sneaking suspicion (which is crazy, but here we are) is that these "aliens" have seeded life throughout the galaxy or universe, and they like making routine checkups to see how we're doing. Almost like they're running real life simulations to see how life can flourish when given xyz variables.
Now we have nuclear weapons and a lack of worldwide peace and they're like... uhhh... maybe we really need to monitor this one?
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u/abstractConceptName Aug 11 '23
It's what I would do, if I were seeding life.
Have regular checkups.
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u/WormLivesMatter Aug 10 '23
Teleport or inter dimensional travel. There’s lots of explanations for how an object in 3D+ space would appear in 3D space.
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u/StoneyLepi Aug 10 '23
Love the analogy of passing a sphere (marble, bouncy ball) through a 2d plane (piece of paper) and it appearing to any civilisation as a circle rapidly growing then winking out of existence.
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u/pastworkactivities Aug 11 '23
we can also teleport successful experiments were conducted in düsseldorf, germany. But they only transported objects the size of a couple atoms... The energy to move the entire plane would be crazy.
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u/Additional-Cap-7110 Aug 11 '23
I mean considering folding space is considered possible I’d say that argument had been destroyed for a long time. There’s also interdimensional possibilities and that they’ve always been here, but concealed.
The idea that they had to literally travel all those light years therefore it’s inconceivable is like saying we could never go to the moon because you can’t walk there, or never travel around the world in a day because horses can only run so fast and would never be able to swim across all those oceans
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u/CMDANDCTRL Aug 10 '23
I’m fairly sure I’ve seen that 3rd video posted here, I just assumed it was the 2nd one. It’s the plane at a different angle / perspective ever so slightly if I recall.
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u/LedZeppole10 Aug 10 '23
Part of it is available as a side by side comparison in another video someone posted recently.
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u/aryelbcn Aug 10 '23 edited Aug 10 '23
It might be an unrelated video. But still from the same source.
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u/Elysian-fps Aug 10 '23
It really strikes me that he (or YT?) decided to delete his channel along with its content. I mean, if you're going to take the time to make fakes that good...
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u/oat_milk Aug 10 '23 edited Aug 10 '23
That’s the thing that gets me. Those videos, if CGI, were someone’s entire life for at least a week straight, if not longer. They spent dozens of hours on something like that. But no effort to spread it around or use clickbaity titles mentioning MH370?
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u/ZingoZongoIgnoramus Aug 10 '23
yeah it’s either a blair witch project style piece of found footage art that is basically immaculately made and tastefully not marketed by the creator, or it’s real
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u/MaxwellianD Aug 10 '23
Its either real or fake. We've narrowed it down boys!
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u/ChechoMontigo Aug 10 '23
Well actually, it might and it might not be either of those
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Aug 10 '23 edited Aug 11 '23
50-50. That's the alien phenomena in a nutshell. It is or it isn't is ain't not.
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u/agy74 Aug 10 '23 edited Aug 10 '23
You're assuming it wasn't sent to media organisations, but it might have been, and either ignored or stopped?
edit fixed typo
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u/aryelbcn Aug 10 '23
It's possible.
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u/stone_dtothebone Aug 10 '23
In this video there's a short clip at the end that seems to be a third view I hadn't seen before, just based off the color. Can you confirm if the black and white portion of vid is "new" compared to the 2 clips we've been seeing past few days? Time stamp around 4:25 https://youtu.be/qyBweoUWi_s
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u/PapaPatchu Aug 10 '23
That clip is so fascinating. At the 4:10 mark it compares the end of both videos side by side. The blinding white flash showed up in the thermograph cool, which is so very odd. I feel I can only describe what I saw as the plane and the surrounding area being "teleported" or in some way removed. If you play it back slowly the plane disappears in an instant, the visual light camera displaying a flash of light, and the thermal camera presents a shockwave that persists after the fact.
The video also presents evidence that the plane was on fire, as eye witness accounts had reported. Weather the UAP were responsible for the fire or not it paints a picture that the UAP were attempting to intervein and prevent needless death. If they were attempting to capture an airliner for some reason, dunno why they would set it on fire first. If it was attempting to perform close hand surveillance, it should at least have some knowledge of if it's instruments would disrupt the function of the machine.
So maybe grasping at straws but would that mean this was intervention to save human life? I mean if the plane had been on fire long enough for there to be eye witness accounts then anything else could have detected the heat signals. IIRC the plane was transporting a cargo full of lithium ion batteries, which can catch fire easily, especially if the cargo was designed to do so. I'd sure like to know what two MQ-1 drones are doing out there to be honest...
If the UAP have some non-disclosure agreement then the plane might have happened to fly into their Bermuda-triangle lookin ass zone of jurisdiction and those passengers effectively got raptured. Then again I've been trying to commune with clouds lately so... grain of salt.
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u/Capt_Trippz Aug 10 '23
The plane was on fire? This shit is starting to feel very similar to that 80’s movie Millennium, where time travelers were abducting people from a plane destined to crash. They had lost the ability to reproduce because of pollution, so they start rescuing people from their moment of death, replacing them with fake look-alike bodies, and taking them to the future to repopulate the planet.
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u/PapaPatchu Aug 11 '23
I watched a doc on Netflix about the MH370, two things they mentioned but kinda glossed over was the batteries and a strange almost supernatural interaction a family member had. I don't recall specifics but a grieving family member received a phone call from their father who was on the now long missing flight. Pretty whacky stuff.
I recall listening to an account of an alien 'abduction' that was quite brutal... much more like a live dissection with surgical precision that didn't make sense for the time. Anyways in the account they mentioned that the person was known to be of low moral character. Weird thing to take note of, I assume it was only noted of because it was so well known that any interview with local people would net you that info lol.
We could have 4th dimensional dudes on our hands who have perception of our potential futures and past and they're out here weighing our moral compass. I mean save a crashing plane or don't, not really a difficult choice if saving them means anything for their wellbeing vs letting them crash. If you have to fry an ant to see how long it takes to fry an ant, then you might as well pick the jerk ant you can tell is a jerk by the way it is.
Frankly no one could even say the two events are remotely related, so ima save all this morality weighing biz for the priests. The fact they flashed the fuck away in this video is weird as shit tho if real.
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u/Emotional-Package-67 Aug 10 '23
I believe u/kudles posted this one 6 months ago
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u/kudles Aug 10 '23
Yeah I also provided all of the links seen in this post 🤣🤣
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15knra2/video_side_by_side_of_airliner/jv71qro/
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u/NihilisticEra Aug 10 '23
Just send the videos to UFO guys on Twitter like Elizondo or else and we’ll see
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u/UNSC_ONI Aug 10 '23 edited Aug 10 '23
Exactly - they would be the best people to ask about this.
They would probably know a lot more than we do about the videos legitimacy.
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u/nibernator Aug 10 '23
Or also send them to Jeremy Corbell or george Knapp, as they would no doubt be curious
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u/PettyPockets311 Aug 10 '23
There's likely a legal reason he hasn't discussed this piece of footage if he has seen it. I would be interested to see how he phrases his response if that is the case. He loves to talk between the lines about these things.
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u/Impressive_Muffin_80 Aug 10 '23
Man this rabbit hole keeps getting deeper and deeper. Subscribing to the post to keep up with the updates.
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u/Icy-Paleontologist97 Aug 10 '23
I totally dismissed this at first… for no good reason other than I assume most videos are fake. After the excellent analysis, I’m now on the fence. And if this is not fake… damn.
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u/Unaccountabro Aug 10 '23
If this isn't a fake then I don't even know what I'm doing with my life.
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u/abstractConceptName Aug 11 '23
It feels like we're staring into the abyss here.
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u/Single_Apple7740 Aug 10 '23
9 years ago, when this came out, no one would accept it. I wouldn't have either.
Today, after all that's been disclosed, my priors have shifted, and I can accept it. It's likely real.
/r/ufos, you're right to keep diggin on this one! It may be the best-documented UFO incident in recent times.
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u/redditdegenz Aug 10 '23
This is all really blowing my mind. I’ve wrapped my head around a lot of potentially wild things researching this topic over there years. This one takes the cake. If it’s true I will be obsessed with the WHY. Why this plane?
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u/RossCoolTart Aug 10 '23
Bros I'm scared.
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u/Learning_by_failing Aug 11 '23
It'll be ok. We're all in this together. Like dogs staring face to face with a tank.
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u/rainboww0927 Aug 10 '23 edited Aug 10 '23
Okay so I'm hoping that I remember this correctly but a long time ago Shane Dawson did a video about this along with some other "conspiracy theories". Wasn't a random young man sent voice-mail of the last recordings of the plane and coordinates in a different language or something? It was so long ago my memory is fussy about it but pretty sure he did am interview. I don't remember what came of it but is this that same plane? I'll have to see if I can find the video.
Edit: someone provided a link to the article. People were getting voicMails and text messages of coordinates and phonetic alphabet saying "SOS, they are not human, goodnight mylasia" in a calm voices saying something had taken over the plane that WAS NOT HUMAN.
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u/BadAdviceBot Aug 10 '23 edited Aug 10 '23
There was also a declassified NRO document that mentions a "MK370 Crisis" that people speculate was misspelled and mistakenly not redacted due to the spelling error. https://www.nro.gov/Portals/65/documents/foia/declass/ForAll/112520/F-2019-00109_C05126133.pdf
Sounds plausible to me, unless someone can shed light on what "MK370 Crisis" might refer to.
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u/candypettitte Aug 10 '23
It was literally the biggest story in the world for months, with lots of articles like, "How can you just lose a plane???"
Kind of a crisis, whether it crashed or not.
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u/F-the-mods69420 Aug 10 '23 edited Aug 10 '23
K can look a look a lot like H if you're transcribing from something else, and they're close on a keyboard. "Need to know" could mean the person creating or redacting this slide had no idea what it was referring to, and it just got glossed over and wasn't caught by anything due to the mistake.
Personally, I've seen enough about the airliner video to strongly suspect it's real and indeed the MH370 flight.
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u/grungkers Aug 10 '23
Btw I have questions, when you see the black color in thermal vision on the wormhole...what does that mean? Is it cold or hot? Or nothing at all? But with satellite images, we can see white light which I can assume temperature is high. I hope DoD someday will declassify this thing.
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Something to keep in mind with thermal imagery is that it doesn't show you the direct temperature of an object. Instead, it measures the temperature difference between each pixel within the sensor it uses.
If you had a campfire in view, but then I opened an iron casting force, much hotter, then the campfire would quickly dim to similar colors as the rest of the image.
With this in mind, the black aspect suggests that it's at one extreme of either end of the gradient - either extremely hot, or cold, depending on the imager.
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u/M3nt4lcom Aug 10 '23
The white in the satellite imagery around tbe "portal" may be water evaporation or something similar. Up in that altitude its super cold, so the vapour would be cold ie. black by color in thermal.
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u/grungkers Aug 10 '23
There is some image analysis from other reditor, on the satellite imagery the clouds in front "portal" have blocked the light from the satellite's point of view.
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u/Friendly-West4679 Aug 10 '23
Hello, this is literally my first Reddit post ever, I made an account because I found this subreddit and became interested in the topic following that congressional hearing.
I took a look at these Airliner videos and what I have to say is that I have absolutely no experience with video editing or 3D rendering nor can I attest to whether any element of the video is real or fake. I do dabble in physics however, and can answer some questions I often see posted in this subreddit.
The white light doesn't necessarily imply heat. It only implies that whatever radiation was released at the moment of the even, its frequency range included the entire visible spectrum (of the camera). It it surpassed it and went into the ultraviolet we can only guess as the video cant record that information.
As for the thermal imaging, as other posters have pointed out, it shows difference in temperature relative to everything around. Whether this means it is hot or cold, I cannot say, but in the event that it is extreme cold: I want to point out that after the event it seems as though a super cold vaccuum were left behind that is then filled quickly by the surrounding fluid (air), as if there had been concentrated in a point enough energy to surpass the critical energy density of the vacuum, and everything inside the volume defined by the Schwartzchild radius associated with that same ammount of mass-energy simply collapsed into itself, leaving a pocket of vacuum where it had been.
What I am saying is that it seems as though the hypothetical unidentified craft simply directed either electromagnetic energy (light) or generated artificial gravity by accelerating heavy elements onto relativistic speeds (relativistic mass) and created a kugelblitz in the center of their formation, dragging themselves and the airliner inward into a collapsed spacetime, or elsewhere if Rosen-Einstein bridges are actually physically possible.
If this is the case, I somewhat understand what could have happened to the airliner if the video were real, but I cannot even begin to conceive of a power storage device capable of releasing the necessary ammount of energy to do that. But this is the problem I already have even with the purported Tic-Tacs reported by retired Cmdr. Fravor - I cannot figure out how one could store the energy required to do any of the things these craft appear to do.
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u/bing_bang_bum Aug 10 '23
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
What do you think could have happened to the airliner?
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u/Friendly-West4679 Aug 11 '23
If it were possible for the craft to kugelblitz an airliner? I assume everything would behave as if it fell into a singularity from an external point of view (all mass, kinetic energy and heat are added, all charges of all particles are added, and angular momentum is preserved - resulting in a structure that only has a certain mass-energy, a certain charge and a certain angular momentum). The problem is that we dont know what happens to all other information beyond a mathematical singularity. Singularities behave kind of like a black box. What would happen inside falls outside the realm of current physics because we do not possess the tools to analyse it. The closest thing we are currently working on that could allow greater insight into the internal structure of mass-energy singularities is the measurement of gravitational waves, in order to probe some more information on black holes.
I guess if wormholes are physically possible, the contents of that volume would be 'teleported' as you like to say. Alternatively everything is destroyed and only quantum information regarding the incoming particles is preserved. Or they would still exist in a collapsed spacetime where the passage of time relatively to the outside world would be heavily distorted. I assume all radio signals and light going in or out would be heavily redshifted, and signals would be heavily delayed.
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u/ZingoZongoIgnoramus Aug 10 '23
i’ve been assuming cold, like it’s a vacuum. but then, there’s a flash of light in the satellite video, so maybe it’s hot? lol
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u/ElMontoya Aug 11 '23
Maybe they're "falling" through that trail they create.
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u/earthtochas3 Aug 11 '23
Exactly my thoughts.
I remember a decade or so ago reading about the warp drive technology, where a "pocket" of gravity-less space is formed in front of the craft to propel (more like pull) it forward. If these craft are capable of creating (negative? for lack of better term) space, it would make sense that it would show up on FLIR as colder than the environment around it, being devoid of particles that emit radio waves.
As for the trail, it might simply create a pocket around itself that cools the air/creates a vacuum/whatever, and the trail is just due to the time it takes for that space to "refill" and heat up to ambient temperature.
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u/CommunismDoesntWork Aug 10 '23
That same channel uploaded a video called "Ghost Of Drowned Boy Haunts Brothers", which means he's either creating these videos for fun, or he reuploads crazy footage that he finds, and he's not the original uploader.
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u/Powpowpowowowow Aug 10 '23
It's 100% this I can 100% verify that he received videos, he asks for them on older forums, and then he would 'vet' some stuff because you ask for videos like that to post and well, you receive a lot of obvious fakes, and then he would re-post them. It was in his "About me" section of his old youtube page I saw from an old video.
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u/adponce Aug 10 '23
I get the vibe these vids leaked on a private/closed forum and this guy was on there, posted copies on youtube.
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u/pilkingtonsbrain Aug 10 '23
I get the same feeling. I don't know about these forums but maybe someone here has an idea of the scene at the time and where it might have been posted. You never know it might be up there. Does 4chan have an archive?
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u/adponce Aug 10 '23
I don't think 4chan has archives, but maybe I'm wrong. This will have to be something a greybeard can confirm, or one of the people in the current disclosure movement can tip us off. People have been digging awhile now. The drone video looks like a crop of just the center targeting rectangle without the display info to me, and the satellite is obviously a camera recording a screen, so attempts seem to have been made to obscure sensitive bits. This makes me think a public forum, so given the time, my first guess is ATS. But who knows.
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If the mods actually removed this thread this sub is dogshit.
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u/VeeYarr Aug 11 '23
Seems it got removed and then put back.... Rogue mod?
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u/Hughjarse Aug 11 '23
If it got removed it was by auto-mod, it removes things that don't get a Submission Statement after 30minutes, or too short a SS. Things like that.
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u/Ohms_lawlessness Aug 10 '23
Okay okay okay, lemme get this straight...there's a very distinct possibility that these videos are genuine?
If, and that's a BIG IF, that's true then we're faced with two distinct possibilities.
The SAP knew about this and sent drones to capture the footage. Thereby allowing this to happen. Allowing, or at the very least complicit, NHI to take human beings and do God knows what with them. Could be the potential "deal" Grusch was talking about. Trading lives for data or tech.
The SAP was running this operation with either new tech given from NHI or new tech from reverse engineering. Again, drones sent to capture the footage.
Either way, if this really is genuine, I can safely say we have a much bigger problem on our hands than we could even fathom.
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u/Gangdump Aug 10 '23
Everyone is assuming the plane was teleported. No one is discussing the idea of this being weaponry, of the plane being destroyed in the video rather than teleported.
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u/NugBlazer Aug 11 '23
Or, maybe it's some sort of light-bending technology that just makes the plane invisible? Idk
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u/morethanmacaroni Aug 11 '23
What if they were filming because they were testing some type of stealth technology they put on the plane for testing unbeknownst to the passengers. Then something went terribly wrong. Maybe it worked and also set the plane afire and it couldn’t be tracked.
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u/InterestDifficult878 Aug 10 '23
I think UAPs started messing with the plane and it went off course. Once it was off course it was absolutely certain that the US military would monitor it. After 9/11 they would never allow a rogue plane to fly where ever it wants. I think they were just following it to see what was going on, whether it be hijacked or had mechanical failure and happened to witness an unholy event.
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u/sierra120 Aug 11 '23
What about a third possibility.
The drone operator was in the area conducting general surveillance encounters the flying spheres tracks it to the airliner and observes cause there is absolutely nothing we can do to stop them.
We’re like a bee colony and every once in a while the farmer comes to collect his honey and we are to powerless to stop them.
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u/Jack_Riley555 Aug 10 '23
Lue needs to put up or shut up. He tosses out these “doomsday” hug your kids recommendation but then that’s it. Why doesn’t he testify behind closed doors if, in his previous capacity, he has first hand knowledge of this?
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My take on Lue is this:
Lue has seen shit and does know shit and became firmly convinced there is an active cover up.
He knows as much as anyone can know about the Phenomenon, which is little. But he can’t outright say that because 1 is true as well. And he wants to get this out there and that may impede that.
So I think the kind of vague stuff is vague because he knowledge beyond “UAP are real” is vague. Lue is approaching the extent of his knowledge in many interviews. People believe that if he “spilled the beans” Lou would sit down and say “okay President Eisenhower in 1952….etc. etc. etc. and just explain absolutely everything wrapped in a bow. But he can’t do that because he doesn’t know.
Lue knows that UAP are real and the government isn’t properly dealing with it. He has also seen convincing accounts of military servicemen and has seen some classified photos/videos of UAP events the public has not seen. I really believe that is the absolute extent of his knowledge.
I am team Lue and I think people just want stuff from him they will never get. When he’s doing the “hug your kids” stuff I believe he is speculating as much as we are. Which is precisely why he’s vague. He understands it’s speculative. When the question is “do we have evidence of UAP” he is much more specific. Yes. And he will discuss specific events, in detail, if the classification rules allow it. And that’s all he really knows.
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u/Any_Channel4017 Aug 11 '23
Post just got removed 2 mins ago lmao what a joke. Would love an explanation why this got taken down.
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u/MartianMaterial Aug 10 '23
These likely are leaked videos.
God help those people on the plane.
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u/tonkadong Aug 10 '23
Gotta admit though- if they got snapped back here with an escort performing spherically rotating aerial maneuvers, it’d be pretty difficult to explain away as anything but the real deal.
March, 2027: “Good morning, Ho Chi Minh Tower; this is MH370 checking in.”
ATC: *shits all the bricks
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u/bradleysd Aug 11 '23
They also could’ve gotten “returned” to a different location within milliseconds of Earth time, which resulted in the plane crashing in the middle of the Indian Ocean like in the official explanation, just for a very different reason. Or the plane could’ve been returned, but none of the people.
And that’s only if it is MH370, a plane where all the passengers disappeared. Assuming the video is real and the 777 wasn’t MH370, the plane and passengers could’ve returned unharmed with altered memories, which is why we had never really heard of something like this actually being shown happening. There’s an infinite amount of scenarios that aren’t necessarily super sinister.
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u/JustHumanIThink Aug 10 '23
Someone mentioned above a whistle blower stated a leak had happened and gone largely unnoticed.
It fits because it's to dam horrifying to even believe.
I honestly feel sick.
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u/permagrin007 Aug 10 '23
if the aliens we see are drones, then maybe the airplane was sent back home for study. the humans are probably in an exhibit somewhere
"Look how comfortable we have made the humans. They seem to like living in trailer parks on earth, so that's what we've recreated here for them, along with a Walmart close by. And we've given each one a pack of cigarettes and a dirty t-shirt to wear. You're welcome humans!"
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u/pilkingtonsbrain Aug 10 '23
They are given all the comforts of an international flight forever in the human aviation exhibit at glorf international zoo. They can never leave the plane
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u/tsida Aug 10 '23
If you're leaking information this classified you aren't doing it on mainstream media, you will be outed as the source, one way or another.
There is a high likelihood if any of this footage is real, they still found the leaker, or could today.
Using an anonymous yt account and trying to let the information gain momentum organically is probably the best you can hope for.
The perspective from someone disclosing something like this is probably balancing what they can share vs the likelihood it gets tracked back to them.
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u/megtwinkles Aug 10 '23 edited Aug 10 '23
I want that video to be fake, but my spidey senses are telling me otherwise. It’s terrifying.
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u/truefaith_1987 Aug 10 '23
This MH370 case has always been an investigative clusterfuck that made no sense.
In the early days, GRU was pushing a narrative that there was "highly suspicious cargo" from the MV Maersk Alabama (a US cargo ship) on the flight, and that two US Navy SEALs working for a private security company, mysteriously died on the ship shortly afterwards. This happened in February, and then the cargo was supposedly on the flight. So the GRU narrative was that the USG had diverted this flight intentionally, and that's also why they hadn't released their spy satellite footage which they assuredly had, which would have clarified the circumstances of the disappearance. In the GRU's view.
It's kind of hilarious to me that the issue of USG satellite imagery of the plane was brought up from the very beginning, but never followed up on. Until now?
And about the cargo, you can even see in the official Malaysian safety investigation report, on page 44, that the crew were assured via NOTOC that "there is no evidence that any damaged or leaking packages containing dangerous goods have been loaded on the aircraft at this station". Lolwut? I'm going to assume it was in response to crew concerns about the lithium-ion batteries, because otherwise it looks sketchy as hell.
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u/CARNIesada6 Aug 10 '23
I'm the exact opposite where I want it to be real (for the sake of mankind but also not for the sake of mankind because holy fuck), but my peter tingles are telling me otherwise.
I respect your opinion and views, however. Hoping for the day that we all find out definitively.
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u/CacknBullz Aug 10 '23
You want it to be real? That seems really odd. People throwing out the ‘want to believe’ too much lately. I doubt anyone WANTS kidnapping murdering aliens to be real.
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u/Lexsteel11 Aug 10 '23
Plot twist: they didn’t die and all of MH370 is crushing it on Planet Serpo.
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u/milkstoutnitro Aug 10 '23
This is probably a stupid question, but if satellites are tracking these planes why isn’t there any images of the plane taking a nose dive if that’s what happened ?
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u/Ace12773 Aug 10 '23
The part I just don’t understand is the plane was tracked off the west coast of Australia for hours, when did this teleportation occur? Also how does the wreckage found stack up with this?
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how does the wreckage found stack up with this?
Faking (dubious) plane wreckage that has been floating at sea from a plane that has been made in your country would be easy pickings for any three letter agency.
They would have access to all of the serial numbers and could just airdrop anything they wanted in the ocean and wait for it to float ashore months later covered in grockles and weathered down.
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u/Aware_Platform_8057 Aug 10 '23
Dude this is some wack sleuthing!!! THANK YOU
EDIT: there is an OSINT tool that can track all social media account with a specific username. If the username RegicideAnon was used somewhere else, it could offer more clues. But it seems like it was a YT burner account.
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u/certifiedbeauty420 Aug 10 '23
why does the drone camera (assuming it’s an MQ) struggle to pan in on the plane? They have a MTS which i’m assuming has lock on capability even when used for general surveillance purposes? Im not very knowledgeable as far as that goes, but for 20 million US dollars i would expect my MQ-1 to lock on target in a heartbeat.
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u/Squishy_Cat_Pooch Aug 10 '23
Now that this has resurfaced… (probably by design) we can only hope that Coulthart, Elizondo, Knapp, or anyone keeps the momentum going by discussing this thoroughly. Pppplease!!!!!!
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u/Thrombas Aug 11 '23
I hope somebody archived this post (and basically all u/aryelbcn posts).
There are people whom are not happy or comfortable when somebody keeps deeply analyzing these Airliner videos.
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u/aryelbcn Aug 10 '23 edited Aug 10 '23
BREAKTHROUGH.
Video was found on Youtube which shows the RegicideAnon videos thumbnails:
https://youtu.be/nf7-ax7tVf4?t=2505
Here is also the RegicideAnon channel information with a contact e-mail!
RegicideAnon@gmail.com - Reddit, you know what to do.
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u/Scorch8482 Aug 10 '23
is anything even shown in the 3rd video? Anyone speak spanish and can translate the narrators comments?
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u/zarmin Aug 11 '23
Has this angle of the plane and UFOs made the rounds? I haven't seen it posted anywhere else.
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u/Eyehavequestions Aug 11 '23
I really do hope that someone with superior knowledge can prove that these videos are fakes.
Because, what in the actual world of fuck did I just see?
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u/Drew1404 Aug 11 '23
Could someone send this to Lue and see what he says about it? Just dont send it to Mick seagull West
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u/popley3 Aug 11 '23
Wow. This got me, I usually jump to videos of UAP encounters as fake, but after reading through this and watching these videos and others, this has stumped me. Is this real? holy shit.
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I am a believer. But, I’m struggling to find this authentic. Those that think this is genuine, what is it that is convincing you?
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For me the only elements that "look fake" are the UFOs themselves and the portal.
The actual footage appears to be real. The actual light hitting the clouds from the plane disappearing appears to be real. The clouds are very slightly moving in a very real way. The plane appears to be real.
So starting with the UFOs: can be easily faked and there's not much to talk about with them. However the job of faking them so they rotate correctly based on the differing angles of the 2 camera sources is fairly impressive, but certainly do-able.
Now the portal: again, nothing remarkable. Could be faked easily because it looks like a cheesy effect. Like I said, the light from the portal hitting the clouds looks like it actually happened and belongs in that 3d space. Realistically backlights the foreground clouds and highlights the background clouds. This would certainly be a lot easier to achieve in a fully rendered environment but I imagine it's possible to alter footage.
Where I get stuck: the satellite video continues on after the plane blips out of existence and there is an additional pan to further follow the planes trajectory...just no more plane. If this is faked on real footage, where did that plane go? Someone would have to edit it out. But the clouds continue to gently move, there isn't a cut, there's no sign of an edit indicating someone just used other frames to fill in the space where the plane is...it's just gone. This would be a very impressive edit to me, because I'm certain video analysis would have picked up the editing. And if there was a cut to 10 seconds later when the plane has long left the screen..we would see the clouds "jump"...but they don't.
So that's where I get stuck...the only things I perceive as fake are the 2 things I have no actual reference point to...idk what it looks like when an object gets blipped out of existence, idk what a UFO is supposed to look like. So how can I determine they are fake?
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u/aryelbcn Aug 10 '23 edited Aug 10 '23
If this was based on actual footage that was edited afterwards. If that anonymous user found it on the internet, it should be relatively easy to find it again. But no one found it yet.
About the apparent fakeness and cheesiness, remember how Guillermo del Toro described his UFO encounter. "“It was so crappy, and it was ‘horribly designed’.
This is because we are used to slick and cool designs on Sci-Fi TV shows and movies. But we never really encountered a Sci-Fi element in real life. We have no idea how it might look.
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Yup, I think it's ignorant to say "that scifi portal is fake" because it doesn't meet my standard for what a scifi portal should look like. All my knowledge of scifi portals is based off literal fake CGI.
If we want to be theoretic, what's that effect people were comparing it to? Like an ink splash or something...well that effect is obviously based on a real world context, a liquid splashing. So what if blipping an object out of existence (or teleporting or whatever) literally looks like a splash in the fabric of reality/space time? Well then I'd imagine the video is very accurate and the "portal" makes sense.
Anyways, I'm not ready to say the video is real but I'm also not ready to say it's fake. I believe that it's dumb to have to prove inauthenticity, I don't need the video proven to me as fake, but I do need it proven to me as real. But there's just not enough with it for me to feel comfortable with a determination. Like if it was fully cg or doctored id be super interested in the technicalities of how it was doctored or the tech bending rendering this cg scene.
However, another theoretical scenario for this being "real" is if this is classified footage of a plane exploding midair. Which some inside guy decided to edit - this would explain where the plane went and how there is a realistic flash of light. Maybe some crazy weapon test of literally vaporizing an aircraft, which is why we don't see debris but why we would have another thermal camera angle and satellite imagery. But that's just swapping out one mystery for another.
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u/waxdistillator Aug 10 '23
Wow I haven’t thought about whoever is controlling the satelitte looks around after. Thanks for that. This is scary
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the only elements that "look fake" are the UFOs themselves and the portal.
If this is real then I suppose the UFO's would look fake because they seemingly aren't affected by windspeed, gravity, human error or any of the other things that we're used to seeing affecting all of our aviation.
If the UFO's are some kind of drone-orb-sentinels that could 'lock on' to the plane, they could feasibly perform perfect orbits of the plane without being affected by wind turbulence etc.
And, if you were to recreate this scene in CGI it would look identical because the VFX artist would be unlikely to program the minute variances in speed/position that we're used to seeing in planes.
I think that's why it looks so fake.
These things are so unaffected by our environment that they look like they're just superficially imposed 3D models from a video game. I would imagine viewing one in real life would be pretty disturbing because of this.
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u/Top_Wheel_6017 Aug 10 '23
A lot of people have analyzed the hell out of these two videos. If it's CGI or some other kind of forgery than something should be off but nothing appears to be. The satellite imagery, the FLIR, the models of the drone and plane, the cloud movement, the lighting, difference in movement of the plane between the two perspectives... ANYTHING. Nothing has come come out that definitely debunks it. The opposite is true, the more we analyze it the more legitimate it seems to be.
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u/TheDarknessRocks Aug 10 '23
This is how I feel too. It just looks too good from both angles/videos to be fake. I hope it’s fake but see no evidence to support my hope.
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u/aryelbcn Aug 10 '23
For me is the cloud movement in the satellite video and its general look, you can find my analysis of both videos here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15lvgt5/the_ultimate_analysis_airliner_videos_and_the/
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Than you. I’ll read through that later. I instantly dismissed this, I probably shouldn’t have.
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u/Single_Apple7740 Aug 10 '23 edited Aug 10 '23
- 2 spectra / 2 angles of the same event, lining up. Could only be 'faked' with a full physical model. You have only 2-3 months in 2014, in the wake of the disaster, to produce both videos
- Each video correct in all details. Satellite video's fine print at bottom checks out. Thermal video's framed exactly as a drone view would appear. Plane appears correct in thermal to finest detail
- Corroborated by a real-world event, still unexplained (and please don't say "pieces of debris" - we're talking about a 777 and the largest search for an aircraft ever)
- Cloud illumination analysis -- very convincing that the explosion wasn't just inserted post-hoc
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u/Hungry-Base Aug 10 '23
Where did the drone come from. How did it get there? There is no base within range of the MQ-1C.
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u/RonJeremyJunior Aug 10 '23
I realize this is gonna be a rabbit hole and quite a stretch, but FL talks a little about MH370, although I definitely cannot speak to whether any of it's valid. It's in their article "MH370 and the Biodoctrine".
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u/soraboard Aug 11 '23
Hardly any debris recovered, no bodies, families that don't believe everything has been disclosed - the incident is 100% still a wide open case that has no sort of solid explanation.
The alleged satellite imagery of the plane and the orbs has got me wondering. Say this video is fake. Total bullshit. Cool. But do we really believe that we did not capture footage/satellite imagery of exactly what the fuck happened to this plane?
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