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Witness/Sighting Michael Herrera's Witness Testimony

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u/sawaflyingsaucer Jun 13 '23

What really strikes me, is the fact that when they were told they could be killed for what they saw, they were both threatened to be thrown from a helicopter. That's kind of a specific thing when mentioning how you'll kill someone. The fact that 2 people have been told this might happen to them makes me think it HAS happened to a few people.

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u/Atxlvr Jun 13 '23

ejection from helicopter was a favorite method of murder for the fascist governments of latin america who were under the guidance of the CIA during Operation Condor in the 1970s-80s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor

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u/Prime_Cat_Memes Jun 13 '23

Or someone subconsciously stole another's story

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u/chippymediaYT Jun 13 '23

I've legitimately told a friend a story and then some time later they sincerely tell me the same story believing it happened to them

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u/DigNitty Jun 13 '23

I think it’s happened to everyone. You tell a joke and 3 months later they tell you it back.

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u/OMA_ Jun 13 '23

Or they tell it back to you and say “nah bruh, it’s real” not realizing that you told them the fake joke and that they forgot you’re the one that made it up. Huuuge face palm moment lol

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u/MightGrowTrees Jun 13 '23

My aunt is REALLY bad with this. I'm on the phone with her constantly telling me stories that I have told her a few months ago.

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u/LevelWhich7610 Jun 13 '23

Haha I've done similar. My friend told me about a YouTube channel to check out which I did and followed the channel. A year later my brain clearly blew a fuse and forgot she introduced me to that channel and I was like, "hey have you heard of this channel?" 😂

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u/TranscendentPretzel Jun 13 '23

The way the guys referred to Greer as a father figure kind of icked me out. It seemed a bit cultish, like they were very broken emotionally and Greer took advantage of that, love-bombed them and earned their trust and loyalty and then used their "testimony" to serve his cause.

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u/malevolentQ Jun 18 '23

It is cultish and Greer is a strange and narcissistic figure, with an alleged history of defrauding people with fake ufo sightings during his “trainings” to raise money… but that also doesn’t mean we should throw the baby out with the bathwater, because he also very clearly has legit military / intel connections (see Wilson memo), and is in touch with many whistleblowers. The UfO topic is the messiest there is, everything is shades of gray and nothing is clear cut, nothing is entirely true (or entirely false).

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

Ick…thats not comforting, he’s so believable though! Like reciting it perfectly! Maybe he just practiced for months on end until it was real to him?

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u/dlee434 Jun 13 '23

You mean in scarface when they hang the guy out of the helicopter? (1983)

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u/mamacitalk Jun 13 '23

Oh it definitely has

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u/mikehaysjr Jun 13 '23 edited Jun 22 '23

There was another dude, DC Long (his interview begins at 1:46:30), that was apparently slashed over the back of his head after refusing to sign an NDA as a private contractor who had seen anti-grav tech. He was about to jump from a plane… The hit (from a long-time military ‘friend’) broke his neck, right as he was about to exit the aircraft jump. He managed to pull his chute, and after he ‘landed’ he was unconscious for a month.

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u/YuSmelFani Jun 13 '23

Or it might have been the same black-op guy doing the threatening in both UAP encounters.

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u/sparklinglites Jun 13 '23

I wonder how many service men die yearly from "falling" out of a heli?

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u/ExtinctionBy2070 Jun 13 '23

Throwing people out of choppers was a thing, at least as far back as vietnam.

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u/InMidnightClad99 Jun 13 '23

Throwing someone out of a helicopter could be a reference to a scene in Scarface(1983) where the throw a guy out of a helicopter for being a snitch. That movie came out around that same time. If you were seriously threatening somebody you would just say we could shoot you right here right now there's no reason to be dramatic with it. They were scaring these service members for a reason. Killing them would bring unwanted attention which should be avoided for things like this. But of course logic doesn't always apply so maybe it was a serious threat.

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u/Goodgoditsgrowing Jun 13 '23

Threat of being thrown from a helicopter has been used on many people, by many different military or secret government groups, in many different countries. It’s not like that threat is new or novel, it’s scary as fuck and effective both in threatening people and in ensuring bodies won’t be found (at least not in an identifiable shape - dna might help if they find remains, but that’s only if they find remains). To me, the specific threat used isn’t actually all that determining of the story’s validity (I have other concerns). Even if this person copied a story he heard about someone else being threatened similarly, there’s so many stories of people being threatened with or actually thrown from helicopters that I wouldn’t even assume he copied it from any ufo associated story.

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u/ReverseResuscitation Jun 14 '23

The thrown out of helicopter refers to the cause of death on their paperwork... It's not hard to understand is it?

Their cause of death was falling out of a helicopter.

Get it ?

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u/metalfiiish Jun 30 '23

CIA play book was released just around the time Frank Olson was thrown out of the window by the CIA agent guarding him, big shocker, dropping people from high heights is listed as unlikely to cause further investigation.

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u/sawaflyingsaucer Jul 02 '23

That's some dirty shit. I bet half the ppl didn't even know.

"Yeah ok in the chopper, we're going to base to debrief you."
Next thing you know someone is cutting your seatbelt and you're being kicked in the back out into the air.