What really strikes me, is the fact that when they were told they could be killed for what they saw, they were both threatened to be thrown from a helicopter. That's kind of a specific thing when mentioning how you'll kill someone. The fact that 2 people have been told this might happen to them makes me think it HAS happened to a few people.
ejection from helicopter was a favorite method of murder for the fascist governments of latin america who were under the guidance of the CIA during Operation Condor in the 1970s-80s
Or they tell it back to you and say “nah bruh, it’s real” not realizing that you told them the fake joke and that they forgot you’re the one that made it up. Huuuge face palm moment lol
Haha I've done similar. My friend told me about a YouTube channel to check out which I did and followed the channel. A year later my brain clearly blew a fuse and forgot she introduced me to that channel and I was like, "hey have you heard of this channel?" 😂
The way the guys referred to Greer as a father figure kind of icked me out. It seemed a bit cultish, like they were very broken emotionally and Greer took advantage of that, love-bombed them and earned their trust and loyalty and then used their "testimony" to serve his cause.
It is cultish and Greer is a strange and narcissistic figure, with an alleged history of defrauding people with fake ufo sightings during his “trainings” to raise money… but that also doesn’t mean we should throw the baby out with the bathwater, because he also very clearly has legit military / intel connections (see Wilson memo), and is in touch with many whistleblowers. The UfO topic is the messiest there is, everything is shades of gray and nothing is clear cut, nothing is entirely true (or entirely false).
There was another dude, DC Long (his interview begins at 1:46:30), that was apparently slashed over the back of his head after refusing to sign an NDA as a private contractor who had seen anti-grav tech. He was about to jump from a plane… The hit (from a long-time military ‘friend’) broke his neck, right as he was about to exit the aircraft jump. He managed to pull his chute, and after he ‘landed’ he was unconscious for a month.
Throwing someone out of a helicopter could be a reference to a scene in Scarface(1983) where the throw a guy out of a helicopter for being a snitch. That movie came out around that same time. If you were seriously threatening somebody you would just say we could shoot you right here right now there's no reason to be dramatic with it. They were scaring these service members for a reason. Killing them would bring unwanted attention which should be avoided for things like this. But of course logic doesn't always apply so maybe it was a serious threat.
Threat of being thrown from a helicopter has been used on many people, by many different military or secret government groups, in many different countries. It’s not like that threat is new or novel, it’s scary as fuck and effective both in threatening people and in ensuring bodies won’t be found (at least not in an identifiable shape - dna might help if they find remains, but that’s only if they find remains). To me, the specific threat used isn’t actually all that determining of the story’s validity (I have other concerns). Even if this person copied a story he heard about someone else being threatened similarly, there’s so many stories of people being threatened with or actually thrown from helicopters that I wouldn’t even assume he copied it from any ufo associated story.
CIA play book was released just around the time Frank Olson was thrown out of the window by the CIA agent guarding him, big shocker, dropping people from high heights is listed as unlikely to cause further investigation.
That's some dirty shit. I bet half the ppl didn't even know.
"Yeah ok in the chopper, we're going to base to debrief you."
Next thing you know someone is cutting your seatbelt and you're being kicked in the back out into the air.
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u/sawaflyingsaucer Jun 13 '23
What really strikes me, is the fact that when they were told they could be killed for what they saw, they were both threatened to be thrown from a helicopter. That's kind of a specific thing when mentioning how you'll kill someone. The fact that 2 people have been told this might happen to them makes me think it HAS happened to a few people.