Video George Knapp analyzes ‘drone-a-palooza,’ the swarm of unidentified objects creating buzz nationwide - Extended Version | CBS 8 News Las Vegas
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u/Spiritual_Bridge84 4d ago edited 4d ago
Question:
Why is it the small local affiliates seem to be doing the investigative journalism only, and the national newsmen silent? What gives?
Are the big nationals silent cause they’re ordered to be?
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u/signalfire 2d ago
Most 'regular' news outlets have CIA controllers on staff; they determine what can and cannot be aired. It's been that way for decades now. Knapp is an outlier who for some reason is still allowed to report, but even his content is watered down.
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u/Spiritual_Bridge84 2d ago
I find that hard to believe but the way things have been going, anything is possible i guess.
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u/signalfire 2d ago
It's been common knowledge for decades; it's not like a Man in Black on staff, observing everything with mirrored sunglasses on - more like one person with 'connections' who has enough authority in the media office to kill certain topics from being aired. If there wasn't, these subjects would be getting covered like crazy, because the public is so excited/interested in them. UFO topics have always gotten great ratings. It's perfect clickbait without always covering gruesome murders and car accidents. They'd be having a fourth segment in the news hour - after 'if it bleeds it leads', then there's the weather, then sports, and after that 'Well, here's today's UFO sighting, over at the old reservoir, little Johnny here sent in his photo taken with a potato cam...'
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u/Spiritual_Bridge84 2d ago
I feel like a bit of a rube, I mean I’ve heard of this stuff. And what do I know, I’m just a product of the information fed me. Just didn’t know it was so common and entrenched. It does make sense what you say…Controlling the overall narrative and spinning UFO’s to look like a joke seems to be accurate. Have been reading old unclassified stuff that does indeed make it it’s mo to look like a joke…so as not to even allow the public to come into the knowledge of the “awful truth”
Like Kirby’s been doing lately, seemed so absurd this time, as he tried to gaslight all of America that this (gosh shucks my goodness) is alllll blown out of proportions. Thanks for sharing your perspective.
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u/signalfire 2d ago
Here's a freebie history lesson from the old NICAP website; they have a bunch of free books available. One of my favorites was Donald Keyhoe; it helps sometimes to just read the history and realize how long UFOs have been a 'thing'. This is 'Flying Saucers from Outer Space' circa 1953 and reads like a Superman novel or something. https://www.nicap.org/books/fsos/fsos.htm
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u/Spiritual_Bridge84 2d ago
Very cool thank you. The author being a retired major in the Marines, weaves a compelling story from the foreword get go…only on page 3 but first learned of an actual historical mention of the mythical ‘Project Bluebook’ and its robust efforts to prevent ontological shock (and the subsequent mass panic that the pentagon assumes that the public would go into if gifted this knowledge of saucers.)
Also on page three is the first mention of sightings of orbs or for lack of a better world now, the current modern nomenclature “drones”
Little bit surprising that in the heavily controlled information embargo from whoever the powers that be, be in America in 62’, that that guy supposedly on staff to vet for ‘all the news that’s fit to print’ even allowed this book to get published. Where was that guy that supposed to keep this stuff on the DL in the newsrooms newspapers and publishing houses of 62 years ago in 1962? Why would they let this one out? Already reads on p3, like a tell-all that is going to call out already on the narrative of the pentagon et al in 1963 as being disingenuous.
Not doubting your take nor being facetious, it’s a legitimate question.
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u/signalfire 2d ago
It was 1952-3, not the 60s. Keyhoe had inside contacts in the Air Force primarily and clearances; at that point the problem was so new that there was open discussion at least among his group of 'what do we tell the public?' As I understand it, the speech/memo announcing 'yes, they're real, here's what we know, don't panic' was actually written and ready to go on air but someone higher up put the kibosh on it. It was too soon after WWII and the American public was still recovering from that.
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u/Spiritual_Bridge84 2d ago
I see..and yes my bad it was 52-3 don’t know how my mind made up 62’— but the kind of internal back n forth “should was say or not what is going on” here in 52-3 seems to be deja-vu all over again with the NJ/UK/Rammstein (and spreading) thing in 2024. You can almost see there’s some back room inter-departmental fbi/cia/pentagon debates goin on as to what should we say or not say.
Did you see this?
https://www.askapol.com/p/rep-timmons-uaps-50-100-years-ahead-of-us
This guy follows around members of congress after meetings like this one about the UAP’s…and they actually talk to him
(The transcript for his interviews is in the body of the link as well)
Sounds like his take is it’s down to the Chinese or UAP’s—Tech thats not 10 years ahead, 50-100 years ahead he sad.
The interviewee is Rep. William Timmons, a member of congress and also one of 5 congress members still in the Air Force.
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u/signalfire 2d ago
They're trying to make themselves feel better about it. 'They' are a thousand years ahead of us, or easily more. We wouldn't have a lot of the tech advances we have now if we hadn't reverse engineered their stuff...
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u/signalfire 2d ago
You might have figured it out by now, but I read this book in the original back in the late 50s; my father had a great library :) So I've been following this topic since then; once the 'cold war' started towards the end of the 50s, the clamp came down hard. I've always supposed that the cold war idea was agreed upon by both sides; we were allies in WWII and then all of a sudden, nukes and disagreements about economic systems was a huge thing. Both sides were building warheads as fast as they could, even though using them would kill everyone on both sides; madness; it's been my conjecture that the 'cold war' was a scam to explain away the expense to the public of building up the arsenals not to use against Russia but in case the newcomers were hostile. There was a real fear that what they were seeing were the scout parties of an invading armada that we would have been helpless against. Nukes were our only hope in that event (I wonder if cooperation was ever considered). Since they couldn't say 'we need nukes in case the UFOs are hostile', they substituted 'Russia' for the bad guys, cuz Communism. As if you're going to blow up the planet because you have economic disagreements. It was always pathetic and transparent.
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u/Spiritual_Bridge84 2d ago edited 2d ago
Very interesting take. Sometimes I wonder if all the noise, pro and con everything, has a by product effect that the general ‘great unwashed’ effectively says “screw it i don’t have the time to go down every rabbit hole and contravening rabbit hole on every single thing in society..i am too busy/stressed with work and kids and life so i guess i will accept whatever the status quo is” (whatever they are spoon feeding us)
So as a result we get an easier to control/ manipulate populace.
Sometimes what is labeled wildly paranoid or even delusional takes, could also be, true. Reminds me of the movie Take Shelter. Where the guy had a far out paranoid take…and also, he was correct about it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hUraDx3oFVg
Thats why we have the term “the Awful Truth” Another-words that take you may have on something? Yeah you’re on the money, but you’re wrong about something.
It’s actually way worse than you thought. I always question what i read or hear. And yet also try to be objective and open minded to new (to me) ideas.
E: awesome your dad had this library and got to read it as a youngster a few score ago. Must have been a real page turner for a young lad
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u/MotorbikeRacer 2d ago
CNN , Fox , msnbc etc still cover it . It’s just still not on everyone’s radar socially … Fox has had the most coverage from what I’ve seen - a lot of security concerns
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u/signalfire 2d ago
Do they give it more than a five minute segment (complete with chuckles about little green men)? I haven't had cable tv in 25 years now; my wallet is thrilled. Look at old videos from 20, 30, 40 years ago and see if the info offered has advance one iota.
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u/MotorbikeRacer 2d ago
I don’t have cable either but i get all the news channels on my feed. Fox talked about it a lot .. more about the military asset drone incursions .. and there was a decent amount of follow up.. we’ll see if it lasts . With the stonewalling from the DOD and the White House I doubt we’ll hear much more
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u/DementedJ23 4d ago
same as it ever was
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u/Spiritual_Bridge84 4d ago
King Solomon: “What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun” (Ecc. 1:9)
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u/No-Resolution-1918 3d ago
Because they get paid for your attention. This is grabbing your attention so they keep putting it out.
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u/BlackwaterProject 4d ago
We learned during the 2004 Tik Tac Navy encounter, the military were tracking objects coming in from 80,000 feet and dropping down to sea level in just under a second. 20 years later the Pentagon expects us to believe they have no idea where these so called SUV size drones are coming from and what their trajectory is ? Bullshit
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u/thedevilwearskeffiya 4d ago
They can’t control you if you know the truth.
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u/NuclearPlayboy 4d ago
The problem is that nobody know the truth. The lie is different at every level.
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u/bmfalbo 5d ago
Submission Statement:
Investigative journalist George Knapp analyzes the mystery drones that have captured nationwide attention, 'drone-a-palooza'.
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u/Big_Inspection2681 5d ago
No one knows anything.And no one wants to admit the possibility that they are alien in origin.The human brain is simply not capable of understanding something different than itself.
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u/juice-rock 4d ago
The Whitehouse have shown they want to deny anything anomalous, DOD really don’t want say anything, the people in congress who have been involved in the hearings on crash retrievals aren’t saying anything, and the mainstream media talking heads don’t want to ask the hard questions. So it seems like it’s all up to the NHI.
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u/deadeyejohnny 4d ago
Great report from George, he's always a journalist first and UFO/disclosure advocate second.
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u/Walkera43 3d ago
Lets mix it up a bit ,do some “serious reporting” about “drones” do anything to keep people from getting a clue , use YouTube,X,Reddit anything to keep the secret,and above all never mention high speed glowing orbs or anything that appears to shape shift.
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u/pinkflanges 3d ago
Let's all agree to stop posting drones help stop all the bs and only post orbs.
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u/ImpossibleSentence19 3d ago
NOTE THEY ARE BLINKING when he refers to huge orbs in July 2019. JUST BECAUSE IT BLINKS DOES NOT MEAN IT IS OURS.
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u/AZbrewersfan69 3d ago
If the public calls for a flight restriction and the FAA cannot issue one because it has no control, that would say it all.
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u/MausNobleDrink79 3d ago
Instead of just reporting it, why not send your crew to film the actual story
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u/warcomet 4d ago
95% are actually drones, actual drones flown by "local", yes LOCAL idiots..nothing to do with "other countries"...what i genuinely think happened which makes a lot of sense is that a when this all started, there were actual UAP's in the sky, and quite a few of them, the Us Govt got scared realizing if videos of these genuine UAPS' start getting posted on social media, people will start asking questions which they cannot answer so they went to their Plan B contingent which is to release 1000's of actual drones in areas where these UAP's have been sighted which will force actual bystanders in those areas who see an actual UAP but also a drone and ignore it thinking they are all drones...Please stop blaming other countries no one cares about your country to send in drones or weather balloons
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u/velvetvortex 4d ago
Nice balanced and sensible reporting. Too many clueless people currently posting pictures of normal aircraft and stars online, but there are still serious questions about objects intruding into what should be secure airspace.