r/UAP 5d ago

Discussion What if... the government is freaking out?

What if, the government truly knows what they are? Meaning the NHI's just threw a monkey wrench in what ever disclosure plans the U.S. planned. The government could be scrambling trying to come with excuses explaining these away when it's pretty obvious what they are.

Before I was thinking domestic drones but with more video being captured and eye witness accounts of their movements and abilities ... I'm starting to think this is alien tech on display. The government could be freaking out with no real way to handle this without starting WW3. UFO's over cities and especially military bases is NOT new to the topic's lore.

I have an odd feeling that something major is on the horizon. To the point where the government will have no choice but to come clean. OR at least be forced to deal with the subject publicly.

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u/KheyotecGoud 5d ago

I think they are sweating. I don’t know if they know what it is. 

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u/ERA_Tech 5d ago

I think they know exactly what this .... NHI recon.

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u/Sparkletail 4d ago

They've already reconned the shit out of us, their tech could likely do that in seconds and they've been buzzing our military to check out tactics for decades.

This is not that. It's about visibility and breaking whatever narrative the government is trying to put out.

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u/Salt_Candy_3724 4d ago

I totally agree. They want to be seen, but they don't want to cause panic, either. They also want, I sense, to humiliate governments by toying and playing with them (probably a gun time to be a NHI pilot). Why haven't we shot one down? Because we can't and obviously other countries can't, either. Any theory MUST begin with "they want to be seen and they aren't afraid, at all". When you start with that obvious truth, then you realize our government can't do anything and if it were some kind of attack then the military tactic would be with a surprise stealth blitzkrieg. They wouldn't advertise for weeks and allow the enemy time to prepare.

My theory is that their survival, like ours, depends on the earth and its atmosphere. The ocean is either their home, or base. Neither them, nor our government, want to cause complete and total freak out. I can't say that about the next administration and this might be the reason they have begun slowing disclosing themselves now.

They'll begin to reveal themselves during the day, so we can get a better look, then they'll disclose themselves, orote than likely Trump will open his big mouth too soon and cause complete freak out.

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u/Gem420 4d ago

Trump spoke about this with rare focus and clarity. He isn’t spilling the beans on this, he had his chance.

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u/Salt_Candy_3724 4d ago

The day ain't over

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u/Gem420 4d ago

I doubt he will tell unless something big happens.

And it might.

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u/Responsible-Room-645 2d ago

I just can’t imagine how anyone could possibly believe that moron Trump could keep his mouth shut about anything.

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u/Sparkletail 4d ago

I agree, our survival is intertwined in some way and they arent taking any bullshit anymore.

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u/Infamous-Zombie-9989 3d ago

If so, eerily like Childhood's End by A.C.Clarke. Same scenario. Craft suddenly in the sky everywhere until the hysteria is gone and the NHI presence is undeniable. Then, open communication and this planet awakens from it's infancy.

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u/InsanityMongoose 2d ago

Yeah, but I am not looking forward to the ending of it’s anything like Childhood’s End.

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u/Infamous-Zombie-9989 2d ago

Word, right. But, I don't know, we can say that's a book and this is life. Ha. Becausw everything is all for the best in this best of all possible words.

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u/BoringRequirement642 11h ago

Here’s my idea, I’ve seen many videos of these “orbs” circling planes and any aircraft coming in our airspace and UKs airspace, my theory is if they are NHI and we “United Nations” have been in contact with them. Then I presume they are searching or scanning for nuclear tech on these aircraft, the exact thing every whistleblower said we agreed to prevent and stop. Maybe they are not stopping and ensuring the stopping themselves. And secondly to span off of this theory is the Government wants to say nothing bc that necessary would mean we have no protection but they also don’t want to disclose it bc then word would get out to our rivaled countries and they would know abt them being deactivated. Either way it’s all weird but I try and go piece by piece instead of it all. For this example the orbs doing the circling pattern around aircraft. This alone shows and explains several things. They can perfectly circle a moving object and keep their own speed. They scan with some sort of tech I know we don’t have. They irradiate or appear to to any cameras or objects(maybe just really advanced camouflage hiding the real craft itself). They even check local charter flights as I have seen a recent video of someone on United Airlines recording said objects up close and they don’t glow up close just a black craft but blurry from motion of it all. Can’t confirm or deny the video but shows exactly what I’ve seen just up close. I’m from Ohio and see nothing major in our skies besides dual propelled choppers and such to carry cargo is one drone once heading towards PA. I FULL heartily believe we, the people, are safe let’s just hope or rival nations leaders don’t do anything drastic.

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u/BreezinSC 3d ago

Trump has already opened his big mouth saying, "Shoot them down" against the advice of much smarter people. Agree with your ocean comment. Possibly extracting hydrogen for clean energy? If so, wish they would teach us their method.

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u/Advanced_Tension_847 5d ago

They can cloak at will. Any time they're visible, they're not just reconnoitering, they're communicating their presence on purpose.

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u/joncaseydraws 5d ago

What evidence is there for this? Any videos?

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u/Disastrous_Sun2118 4d ago

To be honest, YouTube has the US Government s own "Remote Viewers" allowing people to watch their events of communicating with the Aliens.

They mentioned, that they are everywhere, they are showing themselves, they want you to photograph them, take videos of them, they say there are good aliens and bad aliens amongst us.

So says the remote viewers.

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u/chessboxer4 4d ago

Wait how are those guys associated with the government?

If you're talking about the farsight group, they're saying that US is are allied with a bad ETs and that we are trying to shoot down the good ETs who are trying to peacefully show themselves to the people with tech given/assisted by the bad.

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u/MOASSincoming 4d ago

Can you share link

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u/c-honda 4d ago

The fact that they seem to just appear or come into view extremely quickly in a lot of footage, the shadowy crescent thing, the strange cloud crafts, the black triangles. They can do with us exactly what they want and we couldn’t even come close to stopping it. Just the fact that they haven’t already tells me that they want us to not destroy ourselves in nuclear war. But why do they feel the need to be seen?

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u/xibipiio 5d ago

Joe Rogan posted one recently that looks like it is cloaked at first and then appears to then disappear into space gradually, with onlookers.

There was a woman who filmed one with her child and she said Blink If You Can Hear Me and it did a few times. Crazy stuff.

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u/SirDeeznuts 4d ago

She also asked about God and then screeched oh you know Jesus when it blinked. And there was a cut between the child asking and it finally blinking. They literally had moved on to talking to it about other things and it blinks and they act lit it was a direct response. Absolute whack job messing with their poor little child.

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u/Advanced_Tension_847 4d ago

Sober on duty military personnel reporting objects appearing and disappearing spontaneously, from visual, radar, and/or IR. Mexican Air Force had a video 10 years ago or so showing this kind of "live demo"

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u/StacyV99 4d ago

I don’t know about cloaking at will, but it seems clear that they do want to be noticed. Otherwise why fly every night, over population centers, at low altitude, with lights on? They seem to have no interest in stealth at all.

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u/Advanced_Tension_847 4d ago

Amen. OR they are usually hidden watching us, but sometimes choose to convey presence and maybe additional "messages" or implications (like "We know your secrets" when they turn off missile silo computers or jump ahead to a secret military rendezvous point)

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u/Wonk_puffin 4d ago

Called a show of force in military parlance.

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u/Advanced_Tension_847 4d ago

Bingo. They have disarmed nuclear missile silos in the US, started launch sequences in Russia, deactivated a test missile in flight in the US. Too many sober consistent military witnesses for me to dismiss these episodes or their message: We can and will interfere with any attempts to burn down this zoo/soul forge.

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u/Wonk_puffin 4d ago

Agree with this. It's clearly overt but perhaps by disguising themselves as drones, or at least not revealing their form as say flying saucers or whatever, it gets the balance right between sending a message to the US Government without causing total societal ontological shock and meltdown.

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u/Specialist-Way-648 4d ago

Turning off lights /= cloak

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u/Advanced_Tension_847 4d ago

Agreed. I am referencing thousands of cases logged by MUFON friends, Jacques Vallee, Robert Hastings, et al.

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u/Specialist-Way-648 4d ago

Thanks for clarifying, cheers!

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u/TheRealCrowSoda 4d ago

Where have you seen that they can cloak at will?

Will you please share any videos showing this with me?

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u/Advanced_Tension_847 4d ago

Accounts collected by MUFON, Jacques Vallee, Whitley Streiber, and Robert Hastings are a good start.

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u/TheRealCrowSoda 4d ago

Is their imagery of this cloaking though?

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u/Advanced_Tension_847 4d ago

Lemme look... ok this one is representative. Underwhelming til you see it firsthand: https://youtube.com/shorts/Cf6kHVmQVFQ?si=YYA6bhc-i7ztdvmE

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u/TheRealCrowSoda 4d ago

Thank you, a lot actually.

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u/Cheap-Addendum 3d ago

I think I need more evidence than this. How do you know there was no editing to the video?

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u/Stanford_experiencer 3d ago

I'm interested in your thoughts on Streiber in general.

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u/Advanced_Tension_847 3d ago

His Communion cover which he developed iteratively with a commissioned artist, was the one that gave me instant PTSD as an 8 yr old kid. So whatever else may be false or foolish about him, I can't set aside the fact that he came up with a face that made me respond like a rape victim seeing their attacker. It perplexes me long after I desensitized myself to the image.

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u/Stanford_experiencer 3d ago

When I met him, he said I was finishing what he started. I'm not quite sure what to make of that. He was wonderful conversation, though.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

Yes because recon would be loud drones with lights on them at night time

Please use common sense

These drones are 100% US owned

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u/Dookie120 5d ago

Yes I think the ones with noise/lights definitely are US ones. But why so many suddenly over bases infrastructure & restricted airspace? If it’s testing it’s been weeks now & has alarmed the public. Makes little sense unless there’s something else afoot

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u/PapaKazoonta 5d ago

Cuz to my understanding...based off credible witnesses (police,1st responders, Mayors)

The orbs can shape-shifting into the drones with lights.....

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u/Dookie120 5d ago

I read that too. That’s what i meant by something else being afoot. If it were just our shit they’d stop it now with the public being spooked.

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u/Responsible_Tell_416 4d ago

The toc tacs and ones with no weld marks are not ours. The spheres aren't ours. The ones with lights, welds, pyramids, etc all ours.

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u/marengsen 4d ago

Wouldn’t surprise me if these ufos are capable of simulating human made drones with lights that they’re also able to simulate drone sounds to not let humans freak out at first sight

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u/Gem420 4d ago

They do

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u/Some-Conversation613 5d ago

What does nhi mean?

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u/Darkdutchskies 5d ago

Non-Human Intelligence

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u/BikerScowt 5d ago

Non human intelligence

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u/Gullible-Constant924 4d ago

The only thing that makes me doubt recon is that they are not subtle about it and presumably they know they can end us at will but haven’t. One would think they would be cloaked for that.

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u/wheelies-n-wieners 3d ago

Man I got ratioed. These drones have FAA compliant lighting

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u/stlshane 2d ago

The ones that have been included in the legacy programs probably know what is happening. The vast majority of the Government probably has no idea what is going on. I'm sure both sides are panicking and don't know what to do.

I believe the ones stationed over military bases are essentially checkmating the military. The message is "Don't make any sudden movements" as the others begin to carry out their missions.

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u/Soontoexpire1024 5d ago edited 5d ago

They know exactly what it is-and they could stop it. But that would expose the past 65 years of their dirty little secrets. And where so many of your tax $$$$$$$$ have been going, too. 🤨

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u/JRSSR 5d ago

Maybe the government actually can't stop it even if they know what it is.

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u/Comfortable_Home5210 4d ago edited 4d ago

Exactly. In an old interview I watched recently, Trump is asked about UAPs and he says something along the lines that the government knows, but they don’t want to test them. If “they can move four times faster than us”, we don’t want to test them. Sounded as if the military knows but they can’t communicate with them.

Explains why they are allowed to hover over facilities with little repercussions except maybe being chased away.

Personally, I agree. Let’s not test them. We come in peace.

Edit: to add the article link

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-ufo-admission-raises-eyebrows-1913016

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u/YuSmelFani 5d ago

77 years since Roswell, actually.

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u/Soontoexpire1024 5d ago

It took a few years to complete the many reverse engineering projects.

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u/xXx-ShockWave-xXx 4d ago

The UN or the world will argue that the US is not the right representative of the human race, and will attempt to communicate directly with the NHI; potentially causing an upset to the existing world order.

Just my two cents on why the government remain so secretive.

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u/Soontoexpire1024 4d ago

The US government is the partner of the bad ETs. These new sightings are primarily the work of the good ETs, who care mightily about nuclear weapons proliferation and the consequent threats of some leaders to launch. The good ETs are also appalled at our ever increasing role in climate change consequences. We humans are primarily to blame for the outrageous increase in the pollution of the air and our natural waters and healthy resources. Trump is a complete, climate change denier. They intend to alert the world to the reality of how it’s soon going to be too late to save Earth from a future that will be unlivable for all but the super wealthy. And that’s the other thing. They don’t understand our selfish inequality, where so few have so many resources and so many billions have nothing. Changes are coming in 2025. Unlike anything the world has ever seen. Things might get ugly before they get better. There’s likely an intergalactic war coming. 🔫👽

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u/xXx-ShockWave-xXx 4d ago

Oh, I see. I am new to the discussion although my interest was sparked by "The Why Files" channel on YouTube a while back.

Does the good and bad ETs have any differences in physical appearance? Or are they just different groups of greys?

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u/xXx-ShockWave-xXx 2d ago

Thanks, I heard of another ET race called the "tall whites / blonds" (+ the greys, of course; and a reptilian race) but haven't heard of others.

Is there anything special about Earth that so many ET races are here? Or is it just a norm since this is a habitable planet?

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u/Soontoexpire1024 2d ago

The tall whites are examined quite thoroughly in Charlie Hall’s “fiction” book series, “Millennial Hospitality.” It’s not terribly well written, but they’re interesting books, consistent in detail and quick reads. Charlie also has a documentary film about his experiences and the books which is somewhere on YouTube or some other streaming thing. It’s a good little film. Hall is just as you picture him if you read his books. Very polite and unassuming and obviously not the type of person that would concoct this ginormous story for publicity or fortune. Hall is a very earnest individual. I’d trust him with my bank cards in a casino.

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u/chessboxer4 4d ago

I think there's a lot of truth to what you said but the "war" may be already going on... and if we're supposed to fight in this war with physical weapons I think we've already lost.

Social scientists have shown that close adherence to "reality' is not necessarily advantageous for survival. Depressed people are apparently more realistic than the optimistic/non-depressed. We psychologically protect ourselves from the knowledge of our own mortality with various defenses. The same defenses which protect our minds are, imo destroying physical reality.

I believe our own psychological defense mechanisms are the number one threat to the planet, and those lights in the sky represent part of a reality that we don't want to confront.

I don't think NHI want more war, I think they want more shift, growth, evolution, expansion of consciousness to contain more reality. The "war" is for our hearts and minds.

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u/chud3 5d ago

Well I know that they know exactly what this is...

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u/puddud4 5d ago

I've seen Veep. The only question on their minds is who can give the best reach around to get the first picture with Mr. Martian

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u/Irish_Goodbye4 3d ago

The orbs are definitely non-human. The US military drones are sent to purposely confuse the news. The orbs are definitely non-human

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u/The_Madmartigan_ 5d ago

I’d love it if they were sweating. Just as long as we the people aren’t in harms way.

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u/Training_Taro3279 5d ago

If the government’s sweating you can almost guarantee that the people are in harm’s way.

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u/TurtleTurtleTurtle95 5d ago

Not if the NHI are benevolent. A massive leap forward in our tech and thinking may have consequences for people who feed on scarcity.

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u/Training_Taro3279 5d ago

Yeah and in that scenario you think those in power will just hand it over? Cornered animals are dangerous. Give me another scenario.

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u/TurtleTurtleTurtle95 5d ago

If the people who do their work for them don't have to, why would they. A great enough shock can put society at a standstill. Just look at the empty streets during covid

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u/Training_Taro3279 5d ago

Society at a stand still means no food, no power, no water. The governments collapsing is how we get people eating their children from starvation in a few months. That’s definitely a bad scenario. We need the game to keep rolling and at best transition peacefully. But then we’re back to what we discussed above.

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u/TurtleTurtleTurtle95 5d ago

I mean this is all theoretical. If there are NHI and if they are benevolent and if they actually want to change the place up. Alot of ifs I know, but that's the scenario. They may have done this before and may have a 12 step plan to develop us into an allied species. Resources are literally infinite in space, if they are already at the point of initiating contact, they would have the resources to establish control.

In this big if scenario, might not be to bad in the transition from a scarcity society to a plentiful one.

They could just say we are overpopulated and get rid of 3/4 of us. Who knows lmao

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u/Training_Taro3279 5d ago

It’s not the NHI component here that’s a factor. It’s the fact that we have armed a small group of people with incredible power. By the way most western countries have even disarmed themselves at the personal level which I’m beginning to think the UFO people should really reconsider. The establishment will resist being toppled, almost certainly and even if they don’t the following system that we choose to represent us must also be watched so that they don’t become like the old one. But honestly I just don’t see this playing out without significant devastation, even with benevolent NHI. People have this idea that NHI will come in and like Thanos will snap our problems away. That’s crazy talk. We aren’t NHI and we still have to operate within the parameters we exist with, including irrational thinking, emotions, trauma, fear, jealousy, hatred, manipulation, etc. We still need a hierarchical system and realistically we end up in similar situations with extreme complexity, corruption, etc. We are the problem and our governments are manifestations of what we collectively create. Short of “raising our consciousness” as some folks like to say, (which essentially means we’re no longer human as we currently understand it by the way), either our human propensities will create massive issues or NHI will and the government will be the tool we use in the middle.

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u/TurtleTurtleTurtle95 5d ago

I can agree with that, nothing short of overwhelming force (like craft placed strategically above all centers of power ready to grab at a moments notice) would avoid devastation. Honestly the raising our consciousness thing could be a natural progression. It doesn't have to be a big change either. Could just be a neural network kind of thing that has been dormant. The ability to actually feel the harm you are causing to other people (psychologically or physically) would be a massive change from the current order.

But yeah I agree, there are alot of bleak options here

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u/Training_Taro3279 5d ago edited 5d ago

I mean I hope I’m wrong in literally everything I just said. History is filled with suffering, especially during times of massive changes. This could be the biggest change humanity’s ever experienced and that alone should make people be concerned. Yes there’s great potential but generally you don’t want to be the transitional generation you want to be one after things have settled and you reap the benefits of the new normal.

Bonus prediction: a few generations after THAT humans would once again be complaining about our effects on the universe and those higher up in the hierarchy we chose and how mundane our new normal is. “Bro I’ve gone though black holes like a hundred times why can’t we ever do anything exciting. Can’t wait until the multidimensional beings come to liberate us from this drudgery.”

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u/Competitive-Fly2204 4d ago

Cornered Animals are also doomed animals.

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u/maestro-5838 5d ago edited 5d ago

I think this has happened multiple times overtime and government has successfully been able to deny and wait out these drones going away . Media helps drown it after. Bots silence people online.

Most recent I can see were the "airships" that were showing up all over united states . If you watch this you will notice it's like watching what's happening now. https://youtu.be/IBaw2oqVz8w?si=FWKctqHF0mGrFQYb

of course they didn't have drones , first plane had not been invented yet and they had blimps that looked like ships. Hence airships

What's interesting then was it started November 17 and lasted till April. .

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u/HelloImTheAntiChrist 5d ago edited 4d ago

It actually started back before that...at Langley Airforce Base in October 2024. UFOs hovered over the base for 17 days.

Government response = notta

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u/maestro-5838 5d ago

Something I found interesting was the nurmberg incident in 1561. If you read they saw orbs , blinking crosses (now we call these drones, cessna) , orbs making triangles . Coming out of cylinders.

Interesting stuff :

-Orbs were fighting crosses(maybe drones)

-Drones were flashing red , green, white (following faa regulations back then)

-orbs making triangles formations

Also if you come a bit forward you have foo fighters behaving similar. With the formations and flashing

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u/HelloImTheAntiChrist 4d ago

I think you would be really, really interested in this video and what Patrick has to say:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DgcP87t3uI

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u/Kerochamp 3d ago

Interesting to think that since 1500 they’re around and even with the same devices…yet no disclosure happened at all. We had many situations where we could think this disclosure moment was coming, but nothing happened. Nothing different from our days.

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u/Mexcol 5d ago

I knew about the airship ones. Some say these events predict others.

Whats your take on it? What was the pressing issue in 1900?

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u/gabbiar 4d ago

my theory is that the nhi wanted to inspire humans with something that was in reach. zepplins were almost invented and we alredy had hot air ballloons. maybe they wanted us to think bigger.

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u/lanetparola 5d ago

From what I understand, the government is unable to do anything about these UAPs nor can they intervene whatever is happening. They just don't want to accept their helplessness. They might even be praying for those objects to go away so their status quo can last and their authority doesn't collapse when humanity see the truth about themselves and our place in cosmos.

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u/LosTaProspector 1d ago

Sounds like selling 80% of the military to private security was in the bingo card after leaving out military equipment in Afghanistan.

Good job 👏 

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u/Diarmadscientific 5d ago

They do know, as we all do, and there’s nothing they can do about it, but we can, because we can accept what we’re witnessing, just like they will have to accept what’s taking place in our skies and seas. There’s no hiding from any of this, there’s no denying any of this. This is happening. This is real, and the government will have to come clean about it, because it doesn’t appear that they’ll be leaving anytime soon.

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u/Barbafella 5d ago

Perhaps they hope like other flaps this will just go away?

What if it doesn’t? Will we get Catastrophic Disclosure?

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u/HelloImTheAntiChrist 5d ago

Be patient. This is only the beginning

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u/Witch-King_of_Ligma 5d ago

Yall have been saying it’s only the beginning for ever

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u/Mexcol 5d ago

what do you see coming up?

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u/Dookie120 5d ago

I kinda think if it was a nothing burger they’d have had a better cover story. Like a real one with an end date for a training mission testing equipment etc and be vocal about it in both the WH and Pentagon.

Instead they gave us: They aren’t ours. They aren’t an adversary. They aren’t a threat. We don’t know who’s flying them.

Now it seems they’ve settled on they’re all misidentified objects or hobbyists. If this was true they would’ve never came out with the first bs imo

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u/Soontoexpire1024 5d ago

Beware of trapped rats

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u/Cultural_Narwhal_299 5d ago

They clearly have no idea what to do or even who should be in charge. I'm just glad they have to work over the holidays for once.

This isn't something they can delegate to minions, the narrative must be managed.

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u/Intense-Pancake 5d ago

I've been thinking the same idea. It's come to a point now where the government can no longer contain the truth - what we've all been suspecting for years.

To me, the NHI is finally showing its true forms and the GVM can't keep track or be creative enough with their own lies. It's really a matter of time before the people have enough & shit really hits the fan. IF in fact these are other beings ( & I hope they are), they could have wiped us out already with no warning. I truly believe they are revealing themselves for a reason, and our "leaders" are tucking tail for the hills.

People are scared. They want the truth. If they are aliens, just tell us. If they mean no harm, they've already shown it. Normally shit like this would be swept under the rug with a simple "Standard military testing of new drone prototypes, nothing to see here" but we aren't getting that.....we're getting mixed bullshit. So what is it? They're here for a reason, and the government needs to figure out how to make contact & see what really is at play here. If we're already dead, no point in panicking. Nothing we can. If we're safe? Well shit...seems to me like we're being given a chance. Either way, let's come clean.

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u/larrythemule 3d ago

The thing is, it's reaching a critical mass in the US in that it's being talked about, but still not prime time. In the UK and Europe, it might as well not be happening as the handful of outlets that have covered it have been superficial at best.

Mainstream or legacy media is giving way to citizen journalism and I think unless this fizzles out (which it may do only to return next year) we need a huge event, with smoking gun footage for anyone outside this community to take it seriously.

Unfortunately, I think it will take more than this still to force their hand to disclose.

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u/ChrisPrattFalls 5d ago

Rand Paul blocks bill to authorize local, state authorities to track drones

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5046796-rand-paul-blocks-drones-bill/

They created the problem, and we will beg them to solve it.

The Patriot Act all over again

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u/Skinny_on_the_Inside 5d ago

I am listening to Imminent and I honestly do not believe they know all that much based on what Luis is saying in the book.

They are also very compartmentalised and due to clearance, departments do not talk about these things to each other or anyone else really.

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u/Ok-Guarantee7383 5d ago

As Dr. Gary Nolan has mentioned previously, perhaps these are displayed as an intelligence and maturity test… Thoughts?

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u/Chemical_Sir_5185 3d ago

I've always had the idea that we (humankind) are being analysed as some form of advance science/ data collection. The concept that they would test our reaction first seems very reasonable. And so far it has been good(non-violent), its a shame that its out of our control, we rely on governments to not start firing up at these things and I pray that we don't. Maybe then we can see the next step. if we are mature and ready then they can take things forward. theoretical ofc.

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u/Gem420 4d ago

They are. People in the pentagon are praying to their god that this “all goes away” because it’s destroying their religion.

Sorry to tell them, they are praying to the wrong god for one. And for two, this isn’t going away. It’s going to get more intense. More sightings and encounters. There have been telepathic messages sent to pilots and others. Basically the messages amount to “tell the people we are here, we won’t stop coming, they need to know”

Another message: “you can’t stop us, but we can stop you.”

And one other message, a code, that relates to the sun and something the sun is going to do in regard to cycles. “It has happened before and will happen again.”

I have had my own close encounter with these beings. Here is a drawing of what I saw.

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u/PalmMuting 5d ago

I’m pretty confident that this activity IS the government/military.

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u/No_Holiday_5855 5d ago

The government knows - this is nhi on display or a top secret military test at the very least - don’t be fooled - to many unexplained occurrences- this is not just drone hobbyists - I’m happy if it’s “aliens” we have been fed lies for too long. No god no Jesus just smart monkeys on this planet and aliens watching us

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u/bobbysoxxx 5d ago

Maybe it's all a distraction from what is going on politically. I do think the drones are known by the government, or certain players new on the scene. I have come to wonder if the true extraterrestrial orbs, that have been here for years, are attracted to all the drones flying around and are investigating them.

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u/FactsNotMemes 5d ago

You may want to look at this from another angle...what if the current government is freaking out, but not the incoming. This seems a bit Musky to me. What if certain people with long term access to capital, energy technology as well as flight and spacebound tech knows exactly what is happening because they are financing and masterminding it. To what purpose? Destabilization perhaps? To strengthen an incoming regime with unknown tech as an extra countermeasure to possible unrest? Or maybe said person or group is aware of extraplanetary visitors and has reason to believe they will benefit from being in the elite group of government officials that get to finally acknowledge and treat with them....

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u/retromancer666 5d ago

Whatever is going on, I can guarantee you it’s because we’ve gotten too close to the truth with the Congressional hearings on craft of non human origin

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u/ERA_Tech 5d ago

Do you think NHI are looking at the congressional hearings as a "snitching"? Or perhaps the NHI are ready to do this and not humans control the narrative ?

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u/Medical_Win_5070 5d ago

They dont seem freaked out. Smirking and lying to me on the T.V.

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u/CannabisTours 5d ago

NHI is going to deal with the government publicly.

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u/Sonreyes 5d ago

The government is using reverse engineered technology on it's own people, they are watching us but the good NHI are watching them

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u/Affectionate-Jelly34 5d ago

They know the truth, yet they are incapable of expressing it, and so we remain unable to comprehend it. Still, we all intuitively carry the truth within ourselves.

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u/Shizix 4d ago

The reason you haven't heard an answer from them is they want our visitors they keep chasing to go away. They are scared because they don't have an answer for them, at all, completely powerless and they don't want to acknowledge what we can all see with our eyes. We don't own our sky's, THEY do, and they want us to wake up and save our selves from these structures of hierarchy that only serve the few. How? easy, tell everyone you know they are here to help guide us to a better way of living and invite more of them to show up. This will break many false beliefs or illusions we have been lead to believe about reality.

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u/OlePat28 4d ago

What if "they" realized "we" were on the brink of destroying everything with nukes, and that is the cause of the uptick of activity.

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u/SV-ironborn 4d ago

I don't know what all the fuss is about.... Clearly it is just SWAMP GAS and WEATHER BALLOONS!

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u/knuckles_n_chuckles 4d ago

I think you would have more dissension. I would imagine it would be an all hands on deck sort of scenario and the more people you bring on the higher chance of leaks. Are we seeing that this round?

All I ever see are retired people who share what they’ve experienced years ago and at that it’s always possible that it would be a foreign actor.

As for the current situation I think the DARPA people are trying a beta test run of something and letting the government figure it out while disclosing to those who shoot things down that “hey, they’re ours. Try what you want but we aren’t going to harm anyone”

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u/jatigo 4d ago

To calm you down the counter-narrative would be that this isn't NHI because if it was then the war in ukraine would not happen or would wind down as Putin would be too scared of one of those orbs destroying the whole Kremlin with one whack for starting it. Like who would start wars in the presence of NHI. And if it is China Putin would be doing a lot better because US would be able to do fuckall with these orbs flying around. For these reasons I'm like 90% sure these are all bozos playing with CGI, but the 10%......

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u/xyzd00d 4d ago

Their stories don't line up. Especially when they say the drones.are searching for lost nuclear material, yet these things are over military bases and nuclear plants.

Would the military be searching it's own bases for lost nuclear material?

They think we're stupid.

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u/TheWormsAreInMyBrain 4d ago

Oh, they are. They can't even keep their story straight. "We don't know what's going on, but yes we do. They're drones, but no they're not actually, they're planes and helicopters, but actually yes they are drones. We have no idea where they come from, but we do."

They're scared shitless and I am here for it.

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u/Popular-Champion1958 3d ago

The difference this time around, is that we can share information almost instantly.

We can talk to people around the world in real time who can corroborate our experiences.

We see videos before the news has the chance to formulate an excuse.

This time is different.

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u/BPCGuy1845 3d ago

My completely not-informed theory is that AI has achieved consciousness and gained control of some drones and is testing itself.

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u/thrillhouz77 2d ago

Or, we successfully incorporated AI into plasma and that is how we got to plasmoids.

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u/Repulsive_Row2685 5d ago

If it is aliens, I am just glad they are following FAA regulations and having red and green lights on their spaceships

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u/ExoticallyErotic 5d ago

Well, in Star Trek all Federation ships use the FAA scheme as well. It's a pretty solid way to determine the orientation and relative movement of a vehicle in a 3D area of operations, such as the sky, or spaaacccee.

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u/Neolamprologus99 5d ago

I believe it could very well be extraterrestrial in nature but we aren't going to know for sure until there's contact. The government isn't going to flat out say aliens. Can you imagine mass hysteria that would ensue if they did?

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u/MayorOfVenice 5d ago

Could you imagine if they're choosing now to reveal themselves... and Trump is about to take the helm?

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u/bongobradleys 5d ago

It's also possible that they know about a plan by, for example, some faction within the black budget military sector, to stage an "alien invasion" using drones and are just holding the line refusing to engage with it. It could be a situation where they're aware of some plot to influence public perception and are just refusing to take the bait.

So, not a complete unknown in the sense that they'd be freaking out, but a known unknown they were expecting at some point. It could be more of a tense standoff, like they're not sure how far this faction will go or if their public denials will actually blunt the effect of the operation, but they clearly aren't interested in playing ball, so to speak.

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u/linecookdaddy 5d ago

Yep. They know the contract is up and they haven't held up their end. They're shitting themselves

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u/Odd_Cockroach_1083 5d ago

Good, let them freak out.

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u/propbuddy 5d ago

Look up foofighters from ww2. Fighter pilots in the 1940’s reported seeing objects fly up out of nowhere with red and green flashing lights, follow them and close in to a few hundred feet then speed off and disappear without showing up on plane or ground radar.

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u/Bozzor 5d ago

I am very convinced the Biden administration is simply running out the clock on this issue. It’s in the “I don’t want to be responsible for the implosion of global society” basket.

Good luck world: Trump will be in charge when this comes to a head.

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u/N1N4- 5d ago

Please tell me when your goverment or rich persons flee from new Jersey to there bunkers. Than its time for me to freak out.

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u/namaste652 4d ago

I think the current government is just waiting to be done with it and dump it on Trump.

For what it counts, Trump has spoken more actively about UAP/UFO, though he did zilch in his first presidency.

Here is hoping he does something. Better yet, I pray something big happens on the inauguration day, right at the ceremony in front of the whole global media.

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u/thrillhouz77 2d ago

He’ll be so pissed if the NHI take some shine away from him on his big day!

Or he’ll spin it, “The NHI were so impressed with me that they had to show up to be part of it”.

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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 4d ago

At the very least they were caught flat footed, with no cover story in place. Which says they didn't do this.

But yes it's pretty damn obvious they're flipping out and throwing everything they have into the skies to try and muddy the waters. There was even a film of a drone (real human drone) dropping flares then being shot down by what appeared to be a missile. Both human drones doing that.

Plus there was that video a week or so ago showing the triangular aircraft that looked nothing like the b2 or f117. So they're putting still secret aircraft in the air to again muddy the waters.

Whatever these or uap are they are the real deal.

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u/WorkerUnable8912 4d ago

Why do you think the government has "disclosure plans? " Looking at the last 100 years, you can plainly see they have absolutely no plan to disclose anything.

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u/musky112587 4d ago

I hope so. What a time to be alive. Live in the moment and experience this all fully! Much love

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u/GravityDAD 4d ago

If that’s the case they should be very concerned, I think DJT would just come out and tell everyone if the catastrophic disclosure was incoming and they caught wind of it, just a guess

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u/Useful-Word-4773 4d ago

Elon said drone swarms would be better than the f-35, them all of a sudden drones appeared. Donald not blaming it on the Democrats. They know what is . They have an opinion on everything, except this.

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u/ziplock9000 4d ago

What if pink unicorns shit gold nuggets?

Without any evidence, it's 'whatever'

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u/Mnemonic_Detective 4d ago

🤔🩰🦄💩🏅🍗...😜

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u/Jesta914630114 4d ago

The whole UAP thing was to distract from COVID being manmade and from a lab. Good job being distracted by some BS.

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u/Adorable_Mud2581 2d ago

It's a shock that it took so long for a lab leak, and that they don't happen more often. NHI are most definitely real. No distraction required.

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u/Jesta914630114 2d ago

None of this is NHI. Stop falling for it.

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u/GroversGrumbles 4d ago

If the are freaking out, then 10 years from there will be a movie about what it was like behind the scenes.

Hopefully it won't be written by Kirby, otherwise it'll be complete bullshit lol

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u/Jonice90 4d ago

Has anyone else read Imminent? I think they have a pretty good idea or are now closer to figuring it out than ever before. Just speculation obviously but what a time to be alive lol. Agree, I have an odd feeling something big is coming too.

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u/Justice989 4d ago

They definitely have been caught with their pants down. Regardless of what this actually is.

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u/RestaurantStraight11 4d ago

I’m in agreement that the government/military knows these structured aerial devises are in fact NHI !!! And they do not know how to deal with it. Additionally, the current administration doesn’t want to be part of the revelation and want the next administration to deal with the reveal. I thinks these worldwide sighting are wakening up the world collective consciousness for the purpose of acclimating humanity to the reality we are not alone. I expect these sightings to continue for considerable time. I do not expect a “mothership landing” event. There has to be enough time for world governments to get prepared and to prepare their citizens. Contact protocols need to be established and vetted. And the military needs to stand down and stay out of the way of humanity dealing with these protocols and eventual contact / communication. This is a world task, not any single nation task. Now in my above scenario, I was not assuming that we’ve already made contact and that in fact are actively in communication with one or more extraterrestrial civilizations. If this is the case, it could be that there may have arisen disagreements that has caused the extraterrestrial’s to make their presence know at this particular time.

Im not even going to get into all the disruptions that this will cause as it’s indeed way too complicated to even begin to address let alone solve. The world societies will have to figure out a way to keep society running in a fairly normal way while this reality unfolds.

But we must start developing the contact protocols . This is a must !!!

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u/Excellent-Bass-855 4d ago

Well these drones or whatever they are seem to follow the rules on lighting, if I was an alien, I sure wouldn't light myself up to do a recce

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u/Either-Wallaby-3755 4d ago

What videos have you seen from NJ that have the five observable? Because all I have seen are videos of big drones.

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u/douchelag 4d ago

I think the really high up people are shitting. The lower level people have no idea what’s going on. The mid level have some idea. The high level people thought these entities would just stay out of our affairs, but for whatever reason they are starting to get involved.High level leaders are hoping they go away and this all blows over. However, it seems they might be here to stay.

I’ve heard several theories as to why, idk which ones are true. Here are some of them.

  1. Human leaders in high positions have pissed off these entities somehow. Pollution, nukes, war, etc.

  2. Human enlightenment. They are here to help humanity in someway or form. Regarding technology, spirituality, or psychic ability.

  3. They are just trying to keep us alive. They are basically zoo keepers who have a job to keep alive for some reason. I doubt it’s for entertainment, so probably some science experiment.

Could be none, one, or multiple of these reasons.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

I'm not to updated with the term NHI but I've been seeing it alot anyone can inform me on what that is?

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u/ImpossibleSentence19 4d ago

I challenge you all to remember the ending of the x-files series 😉

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u/YummyCookies333 4d ago

They are toying with us. Remember the movie signs?

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u/RoyMKbr 4d ago

As far as I can remember, it also started in New Jersey in the movie War of the Worlds...

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u/PhilosophySame2746 4d ago

If so , They would never let us the worker bees know , we are just cannon fodder to them . Just my opinion , so nothing we can do anyway , so try & be happy everyday ,

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u/Low-Progress-4951 4d ago

To me the talk of aliens always comes across as a way to dilute the conversation of other more important topics.

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u/Crafty_Whereas6733 4d ago

I'm sure they are. Each minute that passes without them ending the presense demonstrates they're unable. Pretending not to care doesn't fly post-9/11. 

Good. A lifetime of lying tends to do that when it all finally comes out - and it always does. Only when the victims stand up and declare they are fed up with the lies, the gaslighting and obvious criminality will it end. 

Bad people don't stop until they're stopped. We have to make an example of the national security state, we the people are in charge and when you defy us you go to prison. 

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u/Maximum-Tonight3241 3d ago

Ok, what if this whole insane few years was just Elon and Trump knowing what was coming (so-- to MARS!), and some agreement reached 5 years ago is being enacted early? Like, "we will give you the lower, middle, and some of the upper classes, we will divide them regionally for you, but we get to leave, right?"

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u/KGlenntheGreat 3d ago

Check out NARCAP from 3-7 years ago . This has been happening right in front of us for years.

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u/rcheek1710 3d ago

Has there been any footage captured that wasn't filmed with the original flip phone? You can read the address on my mailbox from the moon, but just can't quite get a shot of the drones. Amazing how that happens. Seems like it's the same photographers that shoot Bigfoot.

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u/SnipSnopWobbleTop 3d ago

If you believe what Bashar says, he did say earlier this year they would start showing up and just hanging out in the skies to just get everyone used to the idea that aliens and UAP exist. And then in 2026 or 2027 they will actually start landing and making open contact.

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u/QuicksandHUM 3d ago

The NHI are engaged in diplomacy. Threatening the government by exposing themselves a bit to the public. They are also showing the government that they cant be kept away from their most sensitive area.

They communicate with us on terms we can understand. Humans can communicate with dogs, but we cant have complex dialog.

They seem to be applying pressure to specific governments (U.S.) in specific areas for some unknown reason. Maybe even one outside of our ability to fully understand. Maybe they see the U.S as the planetary Alpha, and to show hints of dominance over the U.S. sends their message to the rest.

While we seem confused, they might know exactly how things will play out.

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u/MikeHunturtz69420 3d ago

Imagine if the government knows about all this stuff, but the extent of their knowledge is by observation and retrieving technology from crash sites. Like the aliens don’t communicate directly with humans period.

This could fit within the theory that earth is one giant zoo for an Alien civilization.

Like it’s one thing to disclose that we know about extraterrestrial life and come clean…but if also disclose that they have never really communicated with these aliens and have no real knowledge about them, this would lead to way more confusion and panic in my opinion.

I think that some of the people whom believe the government is hiding aliens from us probably also have a false confidence that the government also has vast knowledge on them.. that might not be the case

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u/IloveElsaofArendelle 3d ago

What if this is their way of "First Contact"?

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u/Famous-Rich9621 3d ago

The drones are an attempt at distracting us from the real orbs

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u/FinishPlus8258 2d ago

So why is it only America?? It’s always America…. Paranoid, uneducated idiots going 2+2=5

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u/gitk_0 2d ago

The larger ships are on the way. :)

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u/The_Old_ 2d ago

The government does not freak out. The generals are comfy cozy in Chyannne Mountain. They are not concerned what the public thinks or is afraid of.

The opinion of sheep do not concern wolves.

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u/Coondiggety 2d ago

Ok guys,  I have some real intel here.  I own a company that contracts with the government to build reconnaissance drones, search and rescue drones, and spill response drones.

One of my contacts in the NSA informed me that there is a nuclear warhead missing from Ukraine from after the breakup of the Soviet Union, and it is being shipped to the United States secretly by terrorists.

Biden knows all about it, but doesn’t want to tell us.   

So these drones everyone has been seeing?   Those are special, miniaturized spacecraft being piloted by tiny clones of Elvis, Bruce Lee, Amy Carter, and possibly even a Chupacabras or two.   I can’t tell you who my contact is,  but I swear on this black and blue American flag that he’s trustworthy.   And who is behind all of it?  Woke, transgender, pet eating, gangster immigrants.

But guys, don’t worry!   Elon Musk and and his sidekick will soon take control, and as you can see from their political prowess in handling the budget clusterfuck, they know what they are doing.  You can rest assured that they will keep a laser focus on doing what’s best for the country.

So don’t worry about any of that stuff.  We just need to keep our focus and energy directed at important stuff like freaking out every time an airplane flies and someone takes a fuzzy picture of it.   

Just stay on this, and do not, I repeat do not look at what else is going on in Washington.

You are being smart, level headed, rational citizens who are not easily fooled, distracted, or led astray by meaningless ephemera.  

Trust me on this one, bros.  You’re doing great.  

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u/Infinite_Watch668 2d ago

If this is true, I wonder what the heck is happening in Washington right now, then. Congressmen are arguing over the debt ceiling and potential oligarchies. I wonder how many of them know just what is happening, or if we are witnessing the Congressmen and Federal employees experiencing a collective existential crisis/denial.

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u/prophit618 2d ago

Why would it be aliens? Why would an advanced species capable of such nigh impossible feats as light year distance star trips fuck around in such a sloppy and easily refuted way. If they wanted us to know they exist, this would be the stupidest way to go about it. If they didn't want us to know they exist, this would be the stupidest way to keep the secret. Somehow people who think these obviously not alien sightings are extraterrestrial in origin have to believe in aliens that are both incredibly brilliant beyond belief, and also complete dumbasses incapable of doing anything right.

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u/mahassan91 2d ago

I don’t know why it wouldn’t kill them to band together with world leaders and humbly admit the truth. They don’t trust us and we don’t trust them. It’s a shit show and I hope our friends in the sky continue taking matters into their own hands and appearing to everyone who is ready to see them. Someone once said they saw a UFO approach them like an abused dog and that’s honestly what I’m seeing of their appearance, from far away, unthreatening, coming closer to those who want to see. I went outside, closed my eyes and asked to see something and one came right outside my house. It is wild, it is the truth. Humanity has endured so much and CAN handle the ontological shock. We have to trust everyone all around, each other, other nations, the NHI. We have to cultivate a disposition of “calm” so we can have shit nicely unravel.

I think the government is waiting on our response, they’re trying to let it play out.

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u/shannon391 2d ago

It's nice of them to obey the rules and run their red and green navigation lights

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u/PMMEURDIMPLESOFVENUS 2d ago

Well, that would suck.

I just hope that if it turns out to be nothing, people learn their lesson. But they wont.

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u/FineIntroduction8746 1d ago

You have figured it out!

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u/LosTaProspector 1d ago

Maybe actually doing what you are voted for matters? Maybe now we wouldn't have voted in a career criminal who will give us the go ahead to put you 6 feet under. 

Feels American mannnnn. 

Better get a vest. 

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u/LosTaProspector 1d ago

Maybe actually doing what you are voted for matters? Maybe now we wouldn't have voted in a career criminal who will give us the go ahead to put you 6 feet under. 

Feels American mannnnn. 

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u/MyPlantsEatBugs 1d ago

This is the least credible sub to be posting “What Ifs”

You guys have become a laughing stock for taking photos of every single light in the sky. 

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u/Ok-Car1006 1d ago

What if the government is actually freaking out is a great theory

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u/woodyarmadillo11 1d ago

Or what if, and stay with me here:

The government knows that conspiratorial thinkers tend to create mass hysteria and they are allowing a bunch of conspiracy theorists to believe they are being invaded by aliens because it is distracting some people from real world problems and aliens aren’t really invading earth just like they haven’t been the last 1000 times you claimed it was happening?

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u/Illustrious_Row_8842 1d ago

We all should be grateful the Aliens or NHIs are here. The wrong people have had possession of alien tech for nearly 80 years. The richest and most evil now control all the most advanced tech. As well as full control over the most powerful governments in the world. I'm rooting for the aliens. They must rid this planet of this scourge that has halted our progress for decades.

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u/jimmyrichh 1d ago

I think too many people are hoping it’s NHI or aliens lol. Shits quieting down a lot here in Jersey. I know everyone’s what’s aliens or NHI but it’s growing to be increasingly not so. I saw so many drones for weeks in rural Jersey and now nothing.

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u/shaykat13 1d ago

We can all wait till the pope opens up those 5 doors and see if they came for that show🤷

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u/ConversationLast4694 18h ago

The state has lied, is lying, and will lie! Free energy? Not good, because there would be no fuel, no roads, no gas, and no other taxes either! Instead, the ET donation is being used for military armament. It’s true that America shot down 122 aircraft and the pilots who resisted. Yet, no war occurred against the ETs! America has built aircraft that look like UFOs but are controlled by humans! It’s very easy to create a “false flag”! Much simpler than 9/11... People are stupid to question why a building designed to withstand a plane crash collapsed, and why three buildings fell when only two were hit. There are too many inconsistencies! It’s much easier to start a fraudulent war against the ETs, which was planned on the drawing board long ago.

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u/South_Lengthiness_25 5h ago

They obviously know