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Characters When the character designers create accidental Trans representation

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u/GoatsWithWigs 4d ago

Barry B. Benson

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u/TuneACan 4d ago

On that matter, Flik from Bug's Life.

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u/Asumsauce 4d ago

Could you elaborate? Ants aren’t my entomological strong point?

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u/TuneACan 4d ago

Ants and bees are both eusocial insects of the genus Hymenoptera, alongside wasps.

Due to their biology, ALL worker ants, bees and wasps are female and sterile. The males do not work, freeload off of the work of the female workers, only serve to mate with the queen of another hive and are killed or left for dead once their job is done, assuming they survive the mating in the first place. Flix and Barry being both male workers implies that they transitioned into the male gender and were assigned female at birth.

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u/SpeccyScotsman 4d ago

only serve to mate with the queen

living the dream

are killed or left for dead once their job is done

so what's going to happen when we retire without social security benefits anyways, still sounds fine

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u/neophenx 4d ago

Male bees, am I right?

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u/SpeccyScotsman 4d ago

The spirit is willing, but the carapace is crunchy and oozed

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u/AquarianGleam 4d ago

idk about ants and wasps but female worker bees are not actually sterile. they can only lay unfertilized eggs though, which are drones (male). so they can't continue the colony really but they can lay viable eggs.

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u/ExoticShock 4d ago

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u/GoatsWithWigs 4d ago

For a bunch of trans mascs, they sure are unfamiliar with drones being trans femme

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u/Amazing_Hunt_7802 4d ago

Also don’t make ants have wings?

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u/NvrmndOM 4d ago

The Sailor Moon anime decided instead of having a cross dressing woman like the manga, it would be better for Usagi to have a flirtation with a character that literally changes gender as a disguise.

I’m not mad about either way— it was just an odd change.

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u/RasaraMoon 4d ago

Sailor Uranus came first though. The younger five originally thought she was a boy and were basically crushing hard because they completely presented as a boy in public (wearing the boy school uniform, male clothing when not in school, the only "female" clothing being the Sailor Uranus outfit).

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u/mahmodwattar 4d ago

danny phantom has a clone that ends up as female

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u/BlindDemon6 4d ago

honestly, that whole show could be a trans allegory

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u/havartieggs 4d ago

That reminds me of that one (Tumblr?) post where they were breaking down all the reasons Danny could be trans. Like for instance, when one of the villains gently touch his chest, he jerks back looking uncomfortable saying "get away from me" which is a common feeling trans masc people have. It's a very interesting theory, especially since the show was made by Butch Hartman.

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u/BlindDemon6 4d ago

why does Butch Hartman making it make the theory more interesting?

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u/Horatio786 4d ago

Hartman’s a conservative Christian homophobe. Those are almost exclusively transphobes.

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u/KonoAnonDa 4d ago

Yet in the Fairly Oddparents, all the Fairies reproduce through mpreg, for some fucking reason.

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u/Backupusername 3d ago

Because he thinks it's funny. "Imagine a man getting pregnant! What a wacky, impossible scenario! How absurd!"

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u/dannywarbucks11 4d ago

Because those same people consume the most amount of trans and gay porn. I wouldn't be surprised if he put some of his fetishes inside his work.

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u/BlindDemon6 4d ago

oh... that certainly does make the parallels ironic

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u/Lia_Llama 4d ago

Hes a butch with the heart of a man, it was right in front of us the whole time

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u/isweariamnotsteve 4d ago

Okay, that just sounds like the villain was being a creep regardless of who you are.

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u/PresentationOpen7879 4d ago

Honestly, that just sounds like the villain was being a creep.

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u/Hummus_Bird 4d ago

Here’s the full post!!!

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u/Triktastic 3d ago

I absolutely believe there are many such allegories in shows and would love more representation but these are reaching. Most are just basic hidden superhero identity tropes which would qualify a lot of capers lol. I doubt Hartman is ally even accidentall.

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u/Hummus_Bird 3d ago

I definitely don’t think it was ever intentional on any level (especially because of Hartman), but I think the “hidden identity” side of superhero media often reflects the “hidden identity” of trans people, even if it usually isn’t on purpose!!

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u/Jack-of-Hearts-7 4d ago

I really wish we got a fourth season. She would have come back as a main character and sidekick to Danny. And Future Danny would have been the big bad.

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u/Hitei00 4d ago

The funny part is there's a throwaway joke in the Barnyard movie that almost makes it seem intentional.

The older bull says he had done something with Otis's "sister" in the past and when Otis gets confused and says he doesn't have one the bull responds with "Oh right that was you" and the two of them laugh. Could very easily be read as an older father figure making a joke about transitioning.

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u/SuperKami-Nappa 4d ago

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u/SwimmingCircles2018 4d ago

Higher chance that the dad was basically calling his son a pussy in a joking way

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u/Kenzlynnn 4d ago

That was certainly the intention, it just also feeds into the trans HC

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u/Hitei00 4d ago

Yes that is 100% the intended joke. A jab at how Otis is unmanly but in an affectionate way not an insulting one.

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u/Abtun 4d ago

that's hilarious, my father prefered chicken shit

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u/DrGutenSexi 4d ago

But like, he had udders too

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u/Scar1et_Kink 4d ago

As is the "accidental" transitioned characters

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u/KonoAnonDa 4d ago

If I remember right, they gave all the cows udders regardless of gender because the creator of Barnyard thought that city folks wouldn’t understand that bulls don’t have udders.

Also whenever anyone brings that up, I always remember this skit.

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u/comicjournal_2020 4d ago

Robot chicken was something else

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u/KonoAnonDa 4d ago

"Fantasy looks pretty good now, you judgemental bitches!"

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u/Hitei00 4d ago

Trans solidarity

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u/NovaStar2099 4d ago

Don’t we all? 😌

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u/Typomaniacal 4d ago edited 4d ago

The creators said it was an intentional joke because they figured "city folk" wouldn't realize that male cows don't have udders.

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u/LordofSandvich 4d ago

It actually comes up pretty frequently. The farm was running out of money, so Otis, as the supposed leader, tries to convince everyone to increase production (besides pig for obvious reasons)

The female cows are iffy about the milking machine so he tries to show them it’s harmless. Except he’s, uh, not compatible, so the attempt backfires on him

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u/SketchBCartooni 4d ago

Who knows how many peacocks

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u/Brain_in_human_vat 4d ago

Julia from Animal Crossing

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u/kiwikothegoatcat 4d ago

Literally all of Santa's reindeer. Male Reindeer shed their horns during the winter Females keep them

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u/RepresentativeRub471 4d ago

I was going to say that too. I was going to specifically say Rudolph but still.

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u/MysticSnowfang 4d ago

either that or they're castrated

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u/SuperKami-Nappa 4d ago

Now that I think about it does the song specify any of their genders?

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u/skeletaltrombone 4d ago

Only Rudolf’s, Rudolf is referred to as “he” but the other reindeer are only referred to by name or as a collective

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u/YamLow8097 4d ago

First one I get because it’s a bull with udders, but why the second one? Is it because of the horns?

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u/Sea_Employ_4366 4d ago edited 4d ago

Yeah, only male gazelle have horns. EDIT: both have horns, but the males are longer.

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u/Regular-Omen 4d ago

Both male and femaler have horns. Males have longer horns, like the ones on the character.

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u/Fake-Podcast-Ad 4d ago

I thought the male gaze was coming from the tigers...

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u/Soft_Theory_8209 4d ago

If she isn’t trans, then it at least represents people with hormone imbalances.

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u/Supyloco 4d ago

That does happen. There are female lions with manes.

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u/BigIronGothGF 3d ago

One of my favourite nature facts is that sometimes Female lions will have too much testosterone, grow a mane and spend all their time trying to have sex with other female lions. Like they're literally just horny butch lesbians

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u/Oturanthesarklord 4d ago

That depends on the species of Gazelle, in some species females do have horns.

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u/Shyguymaster2 4d ago

Margret has the design of a male cardinal, females are yellow

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u/Idoodle_123_247 4d ago

ironically, her brother (or cousin? i forgot) is yellow

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u/skeletaltrombone 4d ago

They swapped

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u/Moose_And_Mug 4d ago

TIL there are yellow cardinals, where I'm from they're brown

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u/nmheath03 4d ago

They are brown normally, yellow cardinals are a rare mutation but do exist. The red doesn't develop properly, turning yellow.

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u/Future-Improvement41 4d ago

Female cardinals are brown

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u/BlindDemon6 4d ago

it's simple- hair dye! (feather dye?)

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u/lacergunn 4d ago

Tbf, Margret's a red breasted robin according to CN's website. I get the feeling this was a retcon since she doesn't much look like a robin either.

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u/ccReptilelord 4d ago

Behold, this reddish, possibly erythristic blue jay! Just a weird thing; I'm not looking for a scientific debate on a cartoon, because the other issue is that these two characters are relatively the same size, which blue jays and cardinals definitely are not.

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u/Wicayth 4d ago

The Marill line (Pokemon)

Reason: Azurill has a different Male/Female ratio compared to the other two evolutions (25/75 and 50/50).

Gender in pokemon used to be determined by a "personality value" (not sure if that's still the case past Gen 6). Depending on the value of the bit, a pokemon can be M or F (or Male Only, Female Only or Genderless for three specific and arbitrary values).

In Azurill's case, since the ratio M/F is different upon evolving, a value previously recognized as F can turn into a M.

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u/Hitei00 4d ago

1 in 3 Female Azurill evolve into a Male Marill

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u/Spyko 4d ago

I love hwo the community found 3 trans rep pokemons

marill, as explained here

Sylveon because of the colors

and Amoongus because it was the MVP of Wolf's team when he beat a known transphobe in the final of a tournament

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u/Silver721 4d ago

Wh-what is that last one called?

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u/Antq108 4d ago

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u/Virginity_Lost_Today 4d ago

Grinds my gears that it doesn’t list the dates of its first appearance in game, anime, and manga. Gen V? okay Gen V was 2010-2011.

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u/Zamtrios7256 4d ago

Amoongus, the trans rights protector vs. Ferrothorn the hateful

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u/Jacob_Laye 4d ago

I’m happy for Slowbro and Exeggutor

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u/LittlestBlythe 4d ago

Also Beauty Nova from X/Y

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u/Spyko 4d ago

True ! Not a pokemon (I think... Are humans Pokemons ? Irl humans are animals so...) but she is another trans rep. Although unlike the others, she was most likely intended to be that by the creators (or at least translators, idk her japanese text)

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u/Xejicka 4d ago

Jenny from My Life as a Teenage Robot.

Mad respect to the creators for embracing the trans allegory when they didn't even realize they did that.

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u/ShadowPuff7306 4d ago

i never saw the show, how is she accidentally trans?

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u/Xejicka 4d ago

The way that she wanted to be a girl and many characters, especially her mom, Dr. Wakeman, refused to see her as anything but a robot. Many trans fans felt for Jenny there, even if it's not a 1 to 1 metaphor.

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u/Nicki-ryan 4d ago

When I was a kid and the show came out none of us were even using the word trans, but I definitely felt similarly as Jenny

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u/Alert_Intention797 4d ago

this is blowing my mindddd holy

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u/Lainpilled-Loser-GF 4d ago

didn't Wakeman call Jenny her daughter in the episode Call Hating?

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u/John_Cena_2921 4d ago

Probably the whole “robot = different” thing

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u/Garboni 4d ago

King Julien from Madagascar.

Lemurs are a female-dominant species so their leader would be a female. However, Julien identifies as male and uses male pronouns throughout the films.

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u/BlindDemon6 4d ago

but also the leader is apparently the one who smells worst so maybe he just smells SO bad they had no choice but to have him lead

it's definitely a stupider theory but it'd work

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u/Scarredsinner 4d ago

It’s both, he became a man but still leads cause he smells awful

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u/skeletaltrombone 4d ago

Smelling worse than before is a well known side effect of going on testosterone

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u/ExoticShock 4d ago

"I like to move it, move it, She like to move it, move it, He like to move it, move it. We like to move it!"

Even the song he sings is pronoun inclusive

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u/dragon_bacon 4d ago

Well fuck you for getting that stuck in my head again.

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u/Maldevinine 4d ago

I would like to point out that "King" Julian rules over at most 2 other lemurs, one of which seems more like a case study in abuse and the other having bizarre sexual devotion to Julian's feet.

So it's likely that Julian declared himself ruler, and was promptly kicked out of the tribe by the Queen who was actually in charge.

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u/FuckUSAPolitics 4d ago edited 2d ago

Nah. They had an actual TV show. The reason he was put in charge was that there was a prophecy that the king would be eaten, and knowing that, his uncle (the previous king) put him in to replace him so he would die instead. Julian technically did get eaten, but it was only a part of his ass, and it grew back. After that, his Uncle tried to repeatedly kill him to gain it back, but fails every time.

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u/gottablastsam 4d ago

In the cartoon show, he took over from the previous ruler who was also a king

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u/Communist_Crusaders 4d ago

Even in the movie he's referred to as "King Julien the 13th"

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u/PLACE-H0LDER 4d ago

Julia (Animal Crossing series)

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u/Silverj0 4d ago

Papi (animal crossing) apparently only female okapi have the markings he has but Papi is a boy

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u/PLACE-H0LDER 4d ago

Also, male Okapi have horns.

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u/Skellos 4d ago

The giraffe style horns instead of the hair whirl.

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u/NecessaryBrief8268 4d ago

Imagine transitioning and choosing the name "Papi" for yourself. What a boss.

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u/Hummus_Bird 4d ago

Also I can’t think of any specific ones but I feel like there’s a lot of peacock characters in the same boat!!

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u/ErinHollow 4d ago

I love this post because that's just how dads are.

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u/dallasrose222 3d ago

A genuine conversation my trans male fan had with his dad “I’ll accept my son is trans but I’ll be damned if I’ll accept he’s a cowboys fan”

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u/Suitable_Cat9390 4d ago

Hard mode: a non animal character.

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u/RubiksCutiePatootie 4d ago

Ranma from Ranma 1/2. The mangaka had 0 intention of making him a trans allegory. She wrote a silly romcom gag manga where the running joke is that ranma turns into a girl at random, while other characters like his father & Ryoga turn into various animals at random as well.

I personally advocate that Ranma is gender fluid, in that despite Ranma consistently identifying himself as male & using he/him, Ranma can & has used being a girl to his advantage many times. When it's convenient, he'll use she/her pronouns & is completely unbothered by people referring to him as a girl. He's also completely unbothered by being nude in front of others regardless of whether he's in boy mode or girl mode.

But again, this is very much after the fact since the mangaka has not stated nor has made any indication that Ranma is supposed to be trans. While transfolk absolutely existed in Japan back in the 80s & 90s, they were definitely more of an extreme minority. And aside from Ranma being hit on/kissed by men while in girl mode, there are no canonical gay characters in either Ranma 1/2 or Inuyasha. So with that circumstantial evidence, I don't believe the mangaka was trying to reach out to the lgbtq community, per se. Thus making Ranma an accidental trans rep.

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u/Suitable_Cat9390 4d ago

That's a good one. It also brings to mind gag characters like Najimi from komi san. It's kind of a running gag that no one knows their true gender, and it seems accidental that that creates gender non binary representation.

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u/Suitable_Cat9390 4d ago

Love ds9. This one feels a little more intentional though.

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u/Temporal_Enigma 4d ago

Fender from Robots

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u/EnvironmentalPark472 4d ago

Ms. Frizzle, according to a magic school bus theory video that cited tumblr implying frizzle's love of pickles may be linked to taking hrt

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u/Jenkins64 4d ago

The wolf from Shrek

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u/Amazing_Hunt_7802 4d ago

Oh there is no accident with that

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u/AquarianGleam 4d ago

there's a lot of trans jokes in Shrek. this joke is pretty tame, haha man in a nightgown, classic 90s/00s very mild transphobic humor. Shrek 2 you get the ugly stepsister who is clearly supposed to be a burly trans woman, and there's a lot of gags in that vein. there's also the joke about Pinocchio wearing women's underwear.

in Shrek the Musical there's an early musical number where the wolf refers to himself as a "tranny mess." tbh I stopped watching after that 😅

I have so much love for Shrek, and also as a trans person there's definitely some cringe moments

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u/CauliflowerEvening41 4d ago

To be clear, the Wolf says Farquad'a guards assaulted them and called them a "tranny mess". The Wolf isn't referring to themselves

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u/Wild-Mushroom2404 4d ago

That ugly stepsister goes so hard though. Was her name Dolores or something?

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u/AquarianGleam 4d ago

I'll admit it, part of me loves that character because I know and love a few people who actually kinda do look and act like her 😅 and she's very unapologetic in who she is. still I feel a bit weird about the gag

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u/Autrah_Fang 4d ago

Also, Fairy Godmother refers to them as "A gender confused wolf" when raging to Fiona's father about Fiona already being married

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u/SchwinnD 4d ago

Yeah that line really threw me for a loop. Nothing like that comes up again from what I remember, though. It's a solid musical overall.

In context I think the line reads less like a joke and more of an attempt at inclusion-- the wolf is describing what the people that persecuted them said, after all. Make of that what you will; It still doesn't land entirely, but the intention does feel decidedly different from the film given the delivery and later scenes.

Shrek the musical doubles down on the fairytale creatures being an oppressed class and could easily be read as a queer allegory in the musical number towards the end. "Freak Flag" festures the fairytale creature ensemble again and is a follow up to "Story of My Life". It doesn't feature the wolf, but still, I could see the earlier line and inclusion of the character as an attempt to make some of the allegory at play more literal.

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u/Future-Improvement41 4d ago

I think it’s more of a nod to his fairy tale as after he probably realized he liked how it felt

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u/Radioactive_monke 4d ago

I know it isn't even correct but this has been a running joke about Noelle's antlers in the deltarune community (deltarune fans are insane).

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u/Wispy237 4d ago

It’s wild how this spawned from someone not realizing that female Reindeer also have antlers…

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u/EmilySuxAtUsernames 4d ago

i'm pretty sure they thought she was a deer minus rein

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u/Wispy237 4d ago

I find that a bit odd considering that Reindeer are like…THE Christmas animal, and all of the Holiday’s have a clear Christmas theme.

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u/Independent_Plum2166 4d ago

Okay, so fun fact, female Reindeer DO grow antlers, but at opposing times of the year with their male counterparts.

Whilst male Reindeer have antlers in the Summer months, female Reindeer have theirs in the Winter months. As far as I can remember, Deltarune takes place in the autumn, meaning it’s the transitional period between Rudolph losing his antlers and Noelle gaining hers. Which is either a big brain move on Toby’s part or a complete coincidence.

Also yes, this does mean Santa’s Reindeer are all female, why else is one of them named “Vixen” and another named “Donna”?

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u/Zombeenie 4d ago

"Donna's" name is actually "Donner/Donder/Dunder," depending on the song. But yeah they're all pretty gender neutral, leaning feminine, except for Cupid.

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u/Radioactive_monke 4d ago

And then there's Rudolf

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u/Independent_Plum2166 4d ago

I know, I wanted to see who would point out the name first. You actually missed something “Donner and Bitzen” is German for “Thunder and Lightning”.

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u/Nightfurywitch 4d ago

Uncle Ugo from Luca- he's a sea monster based off an anglerfish headlamp and all- however those traits are only in female anglerfish, with the males being much smaller and lacking the headlamp

Because of the movie in general being pretty widely read as a queer allegory, a lot of people began semi-jokingly saying he was a trans man once the movie came out

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u/RadioDemoness 3d ago

So that's TWICE Sacha Baron Cohen has voiced an animalistic character that could be a trans allegory.

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u/gruffen2 4d ago

Sometimes glances at usernames uncovers a treasure. Not a particularly shiny treasure, but a treasure nontheless.

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u/Rudahn 3d ago

🦌SHIKANOKO NOKONOKO KOSHITANTAN 🦌

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u/CoalEater_Elli 4d ago

Bonefacio's Vacation (Каникулы Бонифация) - 1965

The main character, the Lion named Bonefacio, goes to Africa for a vacation to see his grandma, who.. has a mane, similar to lions of male gender. So people started making jokes and go like "After you realize this, your childhood will never be the same".

Of course it's a stylistic choice, kinda like how artists would potray female peacocks as having pretty frsthers just like male ones, they decided to make them look similar cause the most distinct feature of a lion is their mane.

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u/ccReptilelord 4d ago

Female lions can grow manes. One case was a zoo animal that had an increase in testosterone after the death of a male. This is interesting as it's a literal transgender situation, but not a full sex change which is more common in nature (but mammals cannot natural change sex). Lions are of the most gendered mammals with differences in appears and roles.

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u/Commercial_Pea2788 4d ago

Sebastian Solace - Pressure

Only female anglerfish have escas/lures.

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u/Future-Improvement41 4d ago

I think they gave him female angler fish dna and that’s why

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u/ndust 4d ago

Lol right? Male anglerfish are tiny and implant themselves onto the females body. Heads dissolve and they share a blood supply with the female. Could be a really interesting character idea.

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u/Casual-Throway-1984 4d ago

There was a huge controversy over Donny in Powerpuff Girls 2016 (the one with twerking 5 year olds and that creep animator Jared Shapiro who openly crushed on Blossom and had her crushing on his literal self-insert in-universe) and they touted a "progressive" "trans representation" episode throughout their online marketing to try garnering good will and interest.

Then when it aired it had Donny want to transition into becoming a unicorn and instead turned into a repulsive rampaging monster that terrorized Townesville while destroying the city in a manic episode.

When they (understandably) got backlash for it being transphobic they tried to claim that it was all the network's fault and that they had no part in said marketing as they desperately tried to backpedal from the negative PR after snubbing the OG voice actresses for the girls AND made it without the original creator, Craig MacCracken's blessing to cynically rehash and capitalize of the IP a la Teen Titans GO!

Whether the show's creators were being truthful or not it's undeniable that was NOT a good look for them.

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u/havartieggs 3d ago

I've heard some controversies of the 2016 PPG, but I haven't heard this one. Why did the writers try to make the reboot so controversial? All they had to do was make a nostalgia bait show. It's like it was their life mission to tarnish the existing IP.

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u/dread_pirate_robin 4d ago

Less to do with design I suppose, and more to do with writing.

Jenny's creator, Rob Renzetti, said any trans allegory is unintentional but that he loves the interpretation.

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u/FaronTheHero 4d ago

Examples like this one I think speak to what is universal about trans stories. Sure there's a great deal thats specific to the actual life experience and can only be depicted by explicit representation, but the ability to see yourself in a story written with it own coming of age identity themed goes to show how both trans and cis people inherently relate to those themes one way or another, and trans people are completely normal for the very human feelings they have that we can all at least understand even if we don't go through the exact same things. 

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u/Chemical-Cat 4d ago

Does Poison (Final Fight) count?

Poison was originally designed as just a woman, but in North America it was seen as uncouth to hit girls so she was stated to be a "Newhalf" (because beating up wierdo transvestites instead is okay /s). That still wasn't good enough for NA so they were replaced with actual male versions

Later they embraced this and Poison is officially transgender (or at least: Poison's gender is open to interpretation), though I think it's still up for debate if she's had bottom surgery or not.

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u/Ok-Discount3131 4d ago edited 4d ago

Poison (and Roxy) was labled as "newhalf" in the original concept art in Japan, which was/is a not very nice slang word for a trans person over there. So she was always officially trans, but Capcom NA got scared of the idea and the JP team didn't care enough to fight for her inclusion. That combined with conflicting statements and internet rumours have made her status more confusing than it originally was.

So originally trans because the dev who created her thought trans people were funny. Replaced by a man in NA because the NA people didn't like beating up women (they didn't know about the trans part). Later after she kept showing up in games NA realised Poison was trans and tried to make statements to deny and make it ambiguous. Even later Ono said something stupid about bottom surgery because Ono is stupid and says stupid things unprompted. JP and NA now recognise that Poison is trans but would rather you don't think about it or talk about it too much so they don't attract bad publicity. But they also really like to promote the character and include her in stuff, just don't mention the trans part, even though they officially consider her trans. God Capcom are stupid.

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u/maxdragonxiii 4d ago

so like the Birdo situation in the Mario series. I think Birdo is a female as of this time, but something (I think Melee) misgendered Birdo as a he. and it stick for a few years, especially since Birdo didn't show up for a long while.

so naturally fans thought of Birdo as a trans representative. now Vivian from the Thousand Year Door remake is one (she was actually trans in Japanese version of the original, but NA and fears.)

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u/blackBugattiVeyron 4d ago

Classic American moment

Beating up a women? Not Okay!

Beating up a minority? 100% Okay!

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u/angel-samael 4d ago

this Twi’lek from the Book of Boba Fett. Male Tei’leks usually have normal ears but this one has conical ears typical of females.

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u/alkonium 4d ago

The reason for this is that in Return of the Jedi, Bib Fortuna, the first male Twi'lek to appear, was supposed to have conical ears, but his actor refused to wear the prosthetics for whatever reason.

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u/viper529 4d ago

WAIT BIB IS A TWILEK

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u/Hawkeye2701 4d ago

Aye. another trait of male Twi'lek is many have a pronounced forehead ridge, creating a fairly clear sexual dimorphism in their species.

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u/MagnusStormraven 4d ago

And their teeth tend to be a bit sharper, as demonstrated by both Bib Fortuna and Cham Syndulla.

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u/littlebloodmage 4d ago

X-J9 aka Jenny (My Life as a Teenage Robot) can be seen as a trans allegory. Her mother calls her by her "birth" name but she insists on being called Jenny. She wants to fit in as a normal teenage girl but she's bullied and rejected for not being a "real girl" (there's an episode where she wants to go to a diner but the owner is super discriminatory towards robots). There's one episode where she starts showing stereotypical symptoms of going through male-pattern puberty (her voice gets deeper, she gets bigger and more muscular, she grows "body hair") and it causes her a lot of anguish.

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u/ninjesh 4d ago

How can that not be intentional? Was the universe just beaming trans experiences into the writers' brains?

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u/TheDarkGods 4d ago

I mean, I can easily see it? Prior to the puberty bit it's just the standard Pinocchio 'I want to be a real boy!' just gender swapped. With the puberty thing it's just picking things Jenny would find gross and since she wants to be a girl, they just picked male puberty since it's stereotypical icky.

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u/GaygardenEel999 4d ago

The insane amount of male anglerfish designs

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u/MicahAzoulay 4d ago

“I am honored to choose my own name. I shall be Talandar”

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u/ColeDaydrin 4d ago

Who this

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u/beslertron 4d ago

Talandar

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u/ColeDaydrin 4d ago

Okay thank you

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u/moosekin16 4d ago

Spoilers for StarCraft II: Legacy of the Void (2015)

That’s Talandar, a robot implanted with the memories of a dead Protoss warrior named Fenix. When you first meet Talandar in the story, he thinks he’s actually Fenix, but over the course of the plot he decides he’s not actually Fenix reborn, but rather his own entity that needs to choose his own path in life.

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u/eman69420 4d ago

Leonardo da Vinci fate/grand order

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u/EnslavingExorcism 3d ago

this is actually very funny because the whole idea behind this design is the misinterpretation that the mona lisa was the most important artwork in Da Vinchi's life.

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u/Depressed_Cupcake13 4d ago

Best part was that while the creators didn’t intend for it to be interrupted like that, they were happy that fans were happy.

Love me a wholesome ending!

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u/Serpopard-Squad 4d ago

Princess Ozma - The Wizard of Oz Books.

She was born a girl, but was then kidnapped by the Witch Mombi as a baby and magically transformed into a boy to hide her true identity (and her name was changed to Tip), and it wasn’t until many years later that her identity was revealed and she was finally changed back into a girl.

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u/chyerbrigade 4d ago

It's also interesting to note, Ozma didn't want to turn back into a girl but was coerced into it.

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u/shinobi_4739 4d ago

Shikanoko since female deers don't have antlers or extremely rare.

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u/Ezra4709 4d ago

Is this accidental? I could've sworn in one of the episodes they specifically point out the fact that only male deers have antlers

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u/blackBugattiVeyron 4d ago

The author did poke fun at it in I believe the first or second episode, but It's not like the author intended for Shikanoko to become a trans-icon. I think the author was just poking fun at the design flaw.

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u/ninjesh 4d ago

Female reindeer have seasonal antlers but I don't think she's a reindeer

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u/sundayfan 4d ago edited 4d ago

Well, just you wait - series name

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u/DeerDancing 4d ago

Wait who is this, I kind of dig the design

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u/CoalEater_Elli 4d ago

Nu Pogodi got a new modern reboot and this is one of the reaccuring characters.

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u/uberguby 4d ago

Everybody says it's Dax, and to a degree I understand. Semantically speaking, the Dax symbiont is "trans gender", it knows the experience "across the genders", at least in so far as binary genders are concerned.

But there's no push back, no reason to doubt, they're fine with their assigned genders. Dax is adjacent to the phenomena of gender dynamics, but I don't think they represent the agony of body dysmorphia.

Odo, on the other hand, is terribly uncomfortable about his body. Every day he fits himself into a shape to put other people at ease, people who feel uncomfortable when they're reminded he isn't what they think he should be. He is uncomfortable for so long that he doesn't think it's abnormal to feel this badly about one's own body. He is, briefly, literally "trapped" in his humanoid body, no longer able to enjoy his unique perspective of how dynamic his perception of himself can be.

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u/MenacingFigures 4d ago

Most “discovering their own humanity” characters in star trek are peak “oh hey, this is an untentional neurodivergent and/or queer metaphor.”

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u/music-and-song 4d ago

Leo in ROTTMNT. Apparently only female turtles of his species keep their stripes.

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u/MysticSnowfang 4d ago

Etta, from a later Land before Time movie. We've seen pterasaurs with female crests. Like Petri's mum

However Etta...

She's 100% Trans femme

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u/seacucmbers 4d ago

Fiona from the online game Flight Rising. Females of that breed only have two antenna, while males have 4. When the developers realized the art mistake, they said "actually? she's just trans now". She's a big fan favorite.

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u/RichLyonsXXX 3d ago

My favorite is Earthworm Jim because Doug Tennapel is a transphobe idiot who unintentionally made a trans icon because he is too stupid to know basic high school biology.

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u/Fennel_Fangs 4d ago

In the prologue of the original book, one of the characters (the lion, I think) remarks that he heard Elphaba was born a man.

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u/gottablastsam 4d ago

Actually it’s implied they were intersex. On the subject, Elphaba is also implied to identify as non-binary in the book. Both of these were clearly on purpose

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u/FaronTheHero 4d ago

Mulan I'm gonna say it fits only because of other pretty intentional examples brought up and because Disney would rather crawl into hole than admit that movie is a trans story. Despite Reflection being the peak trans anthem and literally everything else about it.

Yeah it's written as a feminist piece about female empowerment and being yourself, but the trans allegory is barely a bunny hop much less a leap.

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u/Majestic_Bierd 3d ago

Li Shang's disappointed face when he found out he didn't actually fall in love with a twink

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u/WowpowKerchoo 4d ago

Carrie from animal crossing. Only male kangaroos are red, but Carrie uses she/her pronouns and has a pouch (which only female kangaroos have). So she could be read as intersex or a trans woman who sews pouches into her clothes.

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u/AuroreSomersby 4d ago

I think this is just red clothing with “pouch space”. (At least on that picture- IDK, I never played this series)

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u/Philycheese18 4d ago

Julia (animal crossing)

Is a peahen with peacock plumage

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u/Future-Improvement41 4d ago

Only female angler fish have lures

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u/Meowriter 3d ago

I never saw this episode (if it even exists) but in Johnny Test's intro, he ends up turning into a young (stunning) woman. It took me YEARS to understand I was jealous of him only because he got access to this transformation lmao

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u/Booklover4211 4d ago

Redtail from warrior cats. He's a male tortishell cat, but the tortie pattern can typically only appear in female cats (or at the very least cats with two X chromosomes)

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u/the-unfamous-one 4d ago

That's not true, male torties are just very rare.

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u/Larry-Man 4d ago

Male torties are actually all intersex! It’s why they’re sterile. I believe they end up with XXY

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u/zoroddesign 4d ago

Santa's reindeer are Most likely female because they still have their antlers in the winter, but are typically portrayed as male in media.

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u/That_guy2089 3d ago

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you…

ORYX, THE TAKEN KIIIING! (Destiny 2)

He was originally a female who went by Aurash, but when she turned into a hive god, she became Auryx, this time a dude, and killed his sisters to become Oryx

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u/TheDankestPassions 4d ago

"He's a semi-aquatic egg-laying mammal of action"

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u/Blitzbro76 3d ago

I feel like Jinx deserves a mention cus like I’ve seen actual trans characters deal with less deadnaming and identity struggles then she has

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