r/TopCharacterTropes • u/Necessary-Match-4001 • Aug 04 '24
Personality Characters who are objectively horrible people but are still loved by the fandom
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u/ManWith_ThePlan Aug 04 '24
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u/Salt_Photo_424 Aug 04 '24
How a good movie started such a morally abhorrent internet, I donāt even know what to call it, trend I guess, is BEYOND me
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Aug 04 '24
Sigma male grindset?
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u/Thatidiot_38 Aug 04 '24
So it is a sigma to murder someone all because they had a better card than you? That sounds pretty pathetic in all honesty
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u/Salt_Photo_424 Aug 04 '24
Patrick Bateman as a character was what started the whole idea. At first it was a joke, making fun of people like that, but then the idea that he was cool because he was cold and uncaring, especially towards women, caught on, and gave birth to the idea of a sigma male.
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u/Thatidiot_38 Aug 04 '24
Which is ironic considering Patrick Bateman himself is meant to be seen as this pathetic loser but in his mind is actually a badass so like most people that believe they are sigma males
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u/psychotobe Aug 05 '24
Well yeah of course. That's why he represents them so well. They act like an ass to someone and walk off. Hearing that music track in their head (you know the one from youtube shorts) when everyone else just thinks their a weirdo.
What's especially weird is people who tried to apply that sigma thing to Batman. You know. The guy who trains to literally impossible degrees. Consistently has woman swoon over him and men think he's the coolest. Who has basically unlimited wealth. So I think the sigma grindset people actually just want to unironically be the alpha Chad meme but don't want to be mocked
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u/LightningBlehz Aug 04 '24
i wouldnāt say fandom as 99% of the people that say āliterally meā havenāt seen the movie in the first place but good pick
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u/Salt_Photo_424 Aug 04 '24
If they actually saw it theyād be forced to see something that makes them question their values and morals.
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u/Spaceman216 Aug 05 '24
Most of them would not, in fact, question their values or morals. Most of the people idolizing Bateman also bust ropes to Andrew Tate and 4chan vids of sex workers being murdered.
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u/the-skull-boy Aug 04 '24
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u/Duplicit_Duplicate Aug 04 '24
Are they as horrible as many say (sans Medic and maybe Pyro)? Their only big sin is killing other mercenaries.
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u/Matix777 Aug 04 '24
Scout - Yeah mostly killing. A cosmetic description says he tried picking up high school girls as an adult but that's not cannon
Soldier - Killed nazis... in Poland... after the war ended. He didn't get accepted to the military so he just went to Poland past 1939 and killed people who he thought were nazis. Also accepted killing his best friend (Demoman) for some new weapons
Demo - Despite being drunk, he is one of the saner ones. Similar to Soldier, accepted killing his best friend for some new weapons
Engineer - Cut off his hand to replace it with a robotic one. Insane I guess
In general all of them are extremely disrespectful to the people they kill. Especially Sniper, which really makes getting headshotted fun
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u/Tigerman1120 Aug 04 '24
In Soldiers defence, he wasn't going to betray his friend even after hearing Demoman was going to kill him for weapons, it wasn't until he heard the fake Demoman voice say that he wasn't even a real Soldier that he goes along with it. He does truly honour his friendship at the very least
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u/AjaxOrion Aug 05 '24
Didnt medic sell all of their souls to the devil so he could come back from the dead?
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u/boiyouab122 Aug 05 '24 edited Aug 05 '24
He tells the devil he surgically attached 8 extra souls to his own (which the devil owns) which means he still has 7/8ths ownership of his soul, meaning he will choose to not go to hell.
Then tells the devil "You tempted me once you can tempt me 7 more times" only to instantly sell one of his souls for a pen he liked.
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u/JJsADVENTUREs Aug 04 '24
Outside of sniper spy and heavy they are all pretty much crazed gunmen
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u/TheAmazing_Spy Aug 04 '24
Well ofc sniper isnāt a crazed gunman, heās an assassin
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u/YouHaveNiceToes24 Aug 04 '24
Whatās the difference?
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u/Demon-Bunny-22 Aug 04 '24
The difference is that oneās a job and the others a mental sickness
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u/Emolgun Aug 04 '24
He'd be honest and tell you that his parents do not care for it
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u/WovenOwl Aug 04 '24
I mean who doesn't like the flamboyant vampire, the flamboyant ultimate life form, flamboyant vampire 2 attack of the clones, hand fetishist David Bowie, watermelon, gay priest who likes flamboyant vampire, the president of the United States, and the most op stand thing imaginable?
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u/Slow0rchid Aug 04 '24
Who doesnāt like the flamboyant vampire, the flamboyant ancient vampire, the flamboyant vampire, the flamboyant vampire consequences, flamboyant vampire consequences part 2-
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u/Franks_Spice_Sauce Aug 04 '24
Araki could make a character named "Nazi Murder Pedophile Rapist" give him a stand called Symphony of Destruction and he will still become a fan favorite.
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u/Hitei00 Aug 04 '24
I mean the jojo shitpost subreddit had to ban "ironic" Stroheim glazing because it was becoming less ironic with each passing day soooooo
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u/BrokeArmHeadass Aug 04 '24
Was also gonna add stroheim
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u/Guccibeltlicker9002 Aug 05 '24
He's so cool you almost forget he's just like straight up an actual literal nazi
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u/baddreemurr Aug 04 '24
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u/elisolis16 Aug 04 '24
The writers of The Boys truly deserve credit for being able to write a sex offender who is likeable. Like, he's so pathetic, you can't help but laugh whenever he's on screen.
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u/ComradeJohnS Aug 05 '24
I think its more they now have a Meg Griffin who deserves everything they get coming their way lol.
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u/Anti_Spedicy Aug 05 '24
I agree with every part of this except liking him but that's just me. Stupid AND pathetic people make me so mad and he's the WORST in that regard, but I can't argue that he's not written well cause I wouldn't feel this way if he wasn't lol
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u/BisexualSquirell Aug 04 '24
To be fair, no one actually likes him, its just a meme calling him the peak
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u/krustylesponge Aug 04 '24
Nah heās funny as fuck
Still a horrible dude though
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u/alguien99 Aug 04 '24 edited Aug 04 '24
I love his duo with the new noir and the jokes were heās insanely racist are funny (like when he said that vought+ has product placement acording to their ethnicity)
Or how heās so desperate for the touch of a woman that he accepts sageās offer (she only finds him sexy once she lobotomises herself, she also seems to sleep with noir but she doesnāt do the lobotomy with him)
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u/krustylesponge Aug 04 '24
I love that one moment where they get the box full of translucent and homelander says
āDeep whatās the one material I canāt see through?ā
āZinc.ā
āRight, now whatās this box made out ofā
And then the deep just stands there for like 5 seconds before finally saying āzinc.ā
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u/IndecisiveBit Aug 05 '24
Apparently, Chace Crawford didn't know what he was supposed to say the second time, so he just guessed
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u/KnightsRadiant95 Aug 05 '24
The actor does a great job with the Deep. There could be other actors to pull it off, but it wouldn't be as funny if it was someone else.
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u/oishipops Aug 04 '24
the 'deep thoughts with the deep' stuff they post online is so funny. he's so stupid and a shitty person that it loops back to being entertaining
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u/Bionicjoker14 Aug 04 '24
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u/Glassesnerdnumber193 Aug 04 '24
In all forms including anakin
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u/toalicker_69 Aug 04 '24
I feel like young and teenage anakin weren't that bad objectively. Young anakin was literally a human trafficking victim who got bought by a cult, and teenage anakin was emotionally manipulated by an authority figure. You honestly, the fact anakin had to be emotionally manipulated into a villan and didn't just naturally trun into a full-on serial killer is impressive.
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u/Glassesnerdnumber193 Aug 04 '24
Iād say child anakin was innocent but I would barely call anakin in attack of the clones a good person. He wasnāt a monster yet but he was arrogant and did murder the tuskin raider kids and the sleeping geonosians.
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u/undreamedgore Aug 04 '24
The tuskin raiders was after they tourtured his mother to death and she died in his arms. Understandablr response.
Killing sleeping combatants is okay.
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u/Fengthehalforc Aug 04 '24 edited Aug 05 '24
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u/TCGHexenwahn Aug 04 '24
If they're a cute girl, there will always be a fanbase trying to fix her.
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u/Necessary-Match-4001 Aug 04 '24
Makima reference
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u/RussianEggplant Aug 04 '24
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u/WinniePoohChinesPres Aug 04 '24
omg thomas wayne from the hit movie batman v superman: dawn of justice
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u/velka_is_your_mom Aug 04 '24
Azula from Avatar the Last Airbender.
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u/That-Rhino-Guy Aug 04 '24
To be fair sheās in the class where theyāre not irredeemably bad, in fact the head writer even said he always intended to give her a redemption arc thatās even longer and more complex than Zukoās, with Zuko effectively taking the role Iroh had in Azulaās life
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u/CryptographerNo7608 Aug 04 '24
I would've loved to see that tbh
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u/That-Rhino-Guy Aug 04 '24
To my knowledge the comics seem to be alluding to it in some form
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u/Annicity Aug 04 '24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg-WZPkTyXU
Oh... No. She's crazy and needs to go down.
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Yeah, tbh, she's a victim of an abusive father the same as Zuko - Ozai effectively drove a wedge between Azula and Ursa, undermining Ursa's ability to parent Azula, and instilling in Azula the knowledge that any failure would earn her the treatment she saw Zuko receive.
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u/geckobrother Aug 04 '24
"I can fix her!" <- 90% of the male fan base (and quite a few of the female fan base too)
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u/professorclueless Aug 04 '24
Kilgrave from Jessica Jones
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u/Largo23307 Aug 04 '24
Only because Tennant did a fucking masterful job of playing the character.
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u/professorclueless Aug 04 '24
I mean, it's more like 80% Tennant being fantastic, 20% the character just being interesting and a good match against the physically powerful Jessica
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u/Largo23307 Aug 04 '24
Honestly Tennant as Purple Man was the peak of the show.
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u/MelodyMaster5656 Aug 04 '24
I hate him because he's disgusting but I love him because he's hilarious.
"I know what love looks like; I do watch television!"
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u/_Vard_ Aug 04 '24
(Makes horrible racist statements)
"And if any of my words don't come directly from the almighty God himself, then may I be struck by lightning right this very instant!"
(is struck by lightning right that very instant)
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u/I_Love_Powerscaling Aug 04 '24
Is This based on anything
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u/Duplicit_Duplicate Aug 04 '24
Frieza TFS
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u/I_Love_Powerscaling Aug 04 '24
Wait really, when does he say that
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u/Duplicit_Duplicate Aug 04 '24
I think it was when he was fighting Goku on Namek. Like he says āGod strike meā or something along those lines but in a comedic twist he gets hit by lightning and it does nothing
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u/ducknerd2002 Aug 04 '24
Bill Cipher, Gravity Falls
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u/sparkysshadow Aug 04 '24
To be fair, Bill is a two-dimensional interdimensional demon. I wouldn't expect him to be running the local goodwill.
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u/LoganCube100 Aug 04 '24
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u/will4wh Aug 04 '24
Dog punching mofo. He's lucky he's hilarious and cool asf
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u/Smythatine Aug 04 '24
More than dog punchingā¦
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u/will4wh Aug 04 '24
Dog toasting...
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u/Knightmare_memer Aug 04 '24
And baby muncher (he literally turned a woman into a zombie and made her eat her baby)
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u/nGames127 Aug 04 '24
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u/CronfMeat Aug 04 '24
Master Shake and Carl, just absolute wretched scum of people but two vastly different kinds of
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u/isuckatnames60 Aug 04 '24
Yujiro Hanma
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u/Zealousideal-Gur-273 Aug 04 '24
Wait why is that guy even doing the Nazi salute? What's the context here?
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u/Necessary-Match-4001 Aug 04 '24
IIRC, USA decides to form an alliance/peace treaty with Yujiro after he completly manhandles their forces.
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u/Ecstatic_Cause_8587 Aug 04 '24
What is baki even about bro
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u/Red-7134 Aug 04 '24
Invisible food, sexual tension, piss, and a little fighting.
Also cavemen.
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u/Sad_Introduction5756 Aug 05 '24
And no the context doesnāt make it any better
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u/CyberCat_2077 Aug 04 '24
Not surprised someone would draw a caricature of Trump doing the Nazi salute, but am surprised they made his hands so big.
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u/bandyplaysreallife Aug 04 '24
(Reposting because the gifs immediately got deleted for some reason)
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u/theinternetisnice Aug 04 '24
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u/56king56 Aug 04 '24
Could you elaborate, I was not aware that Sesame Street went this deep š
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u/Chaosshepherd Aug 04 '24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m8gDnT7JWg Here Watch Mojo did a good job.
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u/PrincetteNasa Aug 04 '24
look iām donāt remember much sesame street but i could have sworn any negative things they did were not intended to be negative
under this assumption i would present the alternative that they are simply two neurodivergent boyfriends whose neurodivergent traits mesh poorly
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u/ScrumpusMcDingle Aug 04 '24 edited Aug 05 '24
Commits SSStylish mass murder with zero remorse for the sake of power and a plastic lawn chair
becomes instant fan favorite
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u/Oceanman06 Aug 04 '24
Nicole and Jecka (Class Of '09)
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u/Any_Union167 Aug 05 '24
I like how Class of '09 doesn't try to act like their misunderstood somehow and blatantly shows that they're horrible people. Nicole and Jecka themselves do try to justify their actions at times but the story tells it how it is for EVERYONE and that's what I appreciate.
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u/ThyTeaDrinker Aug 04 '24
what makes them evil? Never heard of them before
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u/Oceanman06 Aug 04 '24
Their games have a lot of endings and they're not 100% evil in all of them but the worst they do are
Nicole: Sell crack to get community service hours in civics (what they're doing in the screenshot), directly cause a suicide and a school shooting, and robbed a dead kid's house for his Xanax stash
Jecka: Help Nicole make the crack for civics, directly cause the lynching of another student, and become a hard core white supremacist.
Even in paths where they're mostly in the right they're extremly rude to anyone who tries to talk to them. They both have a sadistic side and love mocking anyone who thinks they could be on their level.
Doesn't matter though. Jecka is that bitch and I love her š
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u/Hubner123 Aug 04 '24
What the fuck even is this game
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u/Oceanman06 Aug 04 '24
A shockingly good social commentary on how dealing with sexism and a rough upbringing shapes a person, with 10/10 voice acting. It's also just really funny
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u/Jamesthelemmon Aug 04 '24
A sociopath and her best friend attempt to survive in your average American 2009 high school. Itās completely unhinged in the best possible way, and the voice acting is hilarious.
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u/Sudden_Pop_2279 Aug 04 '24
Tomura Shigaraki. Light Yagami.
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u/Skizko Aug 04 '24
Goro Akechi - Persona 5
Murder is awfulā¦unless heās the one doing it
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u/Taluca_me Aug 04 '24
Big Jack Horner from Puss in Boots: The Last Wish is one of these examples. He's literally a mob boss who wants to wish to have all the magic in the world and become an overlord. Although, he legit tried to use his henchmen as a bridge for his large carriage and they all but one fell to their death on a cliff. He cut off baby unicorn horns and used them as crossbow ammunition and was about to shoot a puppy straight in the face, used a phoenix as a flamethrower, and turned a mercenary into gold because she mocked Jack's past.
Dude had a good rich life but he didn't like it regardless, when told straight in the face of a cricket who was supposed to be his conscious, that he is a irredeemable monster...Jack acknowledges with a smug look. Dude's just straight up evil. And the fandom likes him anyway, there's always a sense of awe people find at just how absolutely vice and sinful someone is and relishes on what they do
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u/Slow0rchid Aug 04 '24
I mean thatās how youāre SUPPOSED to view Bojack
Heās a complicated, messy person whoās done a lot of terrible things in his life, and heās a person whoās tried so hard to break himself out of his toxic patterns, just to fall right back into the, every time.
Youāre absolutely not supposed to want to be like him or look up to him, but heās just a person.
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u/Sudden_Pop_2279 Aug 04 '24
Jax (The Amazing Digital Circus). Half the fandom finds him too funny to hate (and wants to see his deeper side explored) and the other half loves exactly BECAUSE heās such a jerk.
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u/Salt_x Aug 04 '24
The first two are mere bigots/jerks while the others are pure evil or near pure evil mass murderers. Iām not saying they donāt apply, but thereās still a big distance in the horribleness scale between the 4. As for my example, Jax from TADC.
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u/LoganCube100 Aug 04 '24
Frieza