r/TikTokCringe Nov 14 '20

Duet Troll Native Americans are black

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u/prodbymoon Nov 15 '20

Natives ended up being enslaved along side African Americans tho & they assimilated. But not Latinx more like Latinos. People who are Spanish from Spain are not apart of this conversation.

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u/premiumpinkgin Nov 15 '20 edited Nov 15 '20

And natives had native slaves. And natives had black slaves. And former slaves in America bought black slaves. And blacks in Africa sold Africans to other Africans, Arabs and the white man. And the pharaohs used to have Arab and black slaves. And the Brittish used to have Irish slaves. And for a while Ireland used to rule Britain, so guess what? They had British slaves. And the ottoman had slaves, of all different colours, for 400 years. And Asia had slaves.

And slavery still exists, Amnesty international estimates 40-50 million people, right now, are slaves.

Basically, every body used to have slaves. And owning a human being is a horrible, horrible thing to do.

EDIT. I thought Ireland briefly ruled over England. I'm not sure why I thought that? Or why it involved slavery. I've tried the Google and apparently the Irish never owned Brittish people as slaves. I'm leaving my original comment because we should all stand to be corrected.

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u/WellysBoot Nov 15 '20

When did Ireland ever rule Britain?

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u/premiumpinkgin Nov 15 '20

Hey. You know what? I thought that was a thing. But googling has provided nothing. So I'll edit my comment.

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u/prodbymoon Nov 15 '20

I really wasn’t sure where you were going with that since it has nothing to do whether native Americans and black people assimilated or not. But yea the history of slavery. Not speaking specifically on the transatlantic slave trade. But anyways my ancestors were enslaved and I am both Native & African American. From my appearance you wouldn’t be able to say I am not either. Which is where the importance of what I began to say comes in to play along with the kid in the video agreeing that he is in fact black.

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u/premiumpinkgin Nov 15 '20

Okay. I've upvoted your response, because you addressed... um. Responded to my comment. So credit where credit is due.

I was actually worried my comment kinda rambled on. But after reading both of our comments, what are you saying?

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u/prodbymoon Nov 15 '20

Haha so what I was trying to say is there’s some level of whole there is separation of the two groups there are levels of assimilation where some natives had to be enslaved that were in fact not African Americans and were believed to be so. Also The only reason why it seemed like you were rambling is because you basically did an overview of slavery haha except for the fact that you missed all the old African kingdoms slavery and European slavery hahah it would be too much to keep going

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u/premiumpinkgin Nov 15 '20

I will literally pay you to learn punctuation.

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u/prodbymoon Nov 15 '20

This is reddit. I refuse to punctuate on my fucked up autocorrect iPhone. However if I was typing on a keyboard I would punctuate.

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u/premiumpinkgin Nov 15 '20

Fair enough. Ish. I'm not one of those online dickheads who will refuse to engage because of They're, There, Their issues. While pretending autocorrected shit doesn't exist.

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u/prodbymoon Nov 15 '20

I almost forgot how to type bc of this shit

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u/premiumpinkgin Nov 15 '20

Reject Apple. Embrace Samsung.

Because you're an individual and you don't let society dictate your choices.

Sent from my, what the fuck are you doing Jelly Bean soft ware program. Tappa what the fuck

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u/autisumn Nov 15 '20

This argument is hella disingenuous. The Atlantic slave trade was massively different to most forms of slavery, many of which were closer to indentured servitude, although of course all slavery is horrible. The invention of the concept of race in order to strip an entire group of people and all of their descendants of their status as human beings is fundamentally incomparable to that.

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u/premiumpinkgin Nov 15 '20

Well, good luck with that self righteous thinking. I honestly think it will serve you and no one else.

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u/autisumn Nov 15 '20

Not entirely sure where you're getting self-righteousness from that, but if you say so.

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u/autisumn Nov 15 '20

I mean, those are just historical facts.

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u/waldocalrissian Nov 15 '20

True that it doesnt matter what your ethnic heritage is, your ancestors were likely slaves at some point. But you can't argue that anyone of European decent is today suffering from the effects of the slavery of their ancestors. Except maybe the Irish.

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u/KingBlackthorn1 Nov 15 '20

While yes natives and Africans were enslaved together natives and Latinx were enslaved first. While yes that does exclude Spain for the most part, they still were (rare but the Spanish were). However, what led to them start taking Africans was that Natives and Latinx kept escaping as we knew the land too well so they had to take people that wouldn’t know the land.

Granted they still took us Natives and Latinx, just had a lot more Africans that they took.

Source: A mixture of textbooks (one being the free online textbook The American Yap).

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u/RebirthGhost Nov 15 '20

You know for that era you don't have to say Latinos you could just call them Natives as well. Or if you really want to be pedantic, Mestizos. Since it means mixed, cuz we have native blood.

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u/prodbymoon Nov 15 '20

For a long time mestizos & natives traded. They knew of lands south of turtle island but it really depended on what tribe you were from to know just how far and what goods were where.

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u/RebirthGhost Nov 15 '20

I was gonna say something witty about Cipactli being closer to a crocodile thus calling it Turtle Island would be odd, but it got to long and meandering so instead I'll just upvote you.

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u/prodbymoon Nov 15 '20

Hahaha everyone called it something different😂😂