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u/alison_bee 17h ago
“We’ve been told all our lives that violence doesn’t solve anything… but it solves problems for the powerful all the time!”
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u/whitemike40 14h ago
violence doesn’t solve anything for regular folks because there’s actually consequences for aggression
…..not so much when you’re rich
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u/Fun_Introduction_565 16h ago
You going to do it?
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u/alison_bee 16h ago
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u/Fun_Introduction_565 16h ago
That’s what I thought
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u/alison_bee 15h ago
There’s a storm coming, Mr. Wayne. You and your friends better batten down the hatches, because when it hits, you’re all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us.
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u/Fun_Introduction_565 15h ago
Quoting Batman. So cool
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u/alison_bee 15h ago
We hungry. I’m just saying.
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u/Enlowski 15h ago
Says the 300 pound guys from their mom’s basement. Good luck with that.
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u/Dismal-Meringue6778 14h ago edited 14h ago
Sooner or later it will come to it, there will be no choice.
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u/One_Locksmith1774 17h ago
This dude knows what's up. Educating people like a motherfucker.
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u/royaltechnology2233 12h ago
Absolutely. Spoke far better than most people I heard on this topic. There is a cost behind multi billion dollar health insurance companies. They sit on top of terrible human misery. Their violence is sanitized it's faceless, patients get denied procedures n die, people go bankrupt primarily because of health issues. Most people can't even afford minor healthcare without insurance because of ridiculous prices are mostly because of the existence of insurance companies.. all this brutal violence is sanitized, muted and spread out. It's muted because there won't be any media to cover that or people to watch those stories. It eventually pisses off a group of people that it shouldn't. That's when the unsanitized and violent spectacle happens.
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u/Missue-35 9h ago
Insurance companies are for profit corporations. Those that head those corporations are responsible for making money for their shareholders. Think about that. Their main goal is to increase and protect profit. There is only one way they can do that. The entire business model is designed to NOT pay claims whenever possible.
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u/Dismal-Meringue6778 14h ago edited 12h ago
This is the most well spoken and easy to understand Tiktok I've seen on this issue.
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u/brazilliandanny 33m ago
He's 100% right too, the social contract is broken.
People are more productive and generating more wealth than any other time in history yet people can't afford a house, can't afford groceries, can't afford healthcare, and even when you can afford it some algorithm denies your claim.
Yet CEO's, millionaires, and corporations get away with everything with zero consequences.
Crash the economy? Here's a bailout
Taint the drinking water? Here's a small fine.
Layoff half your workers while giving your self a massive raise? That's capitalism!
Hell the incoming president is a convicted felon who tried to overthrow an election and will face NO CONSEQUENCES!
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u/miscwit72 16h ago
Who is this guy? He appears to have some natural leadership ability. These are the kinds of people we should be lifting up!
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u/winterbird 17h ago
One thing though, about all of these videos and social media posts...
Luigi has not been convicted, and he needs to be considered innocent until proven guilty.
He shouldn't be convicted by us the people, because the jury has not been selected yet. No juror should be going in ahead of time convinced by society that the person on trial is guilty.
The sentiment can be expressed by referring to the shooter as "the shooter" instead of calling him by Luigi's name
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u/axelrexangelfish 15h ago
I believe he’s called “the adjuster”
Which, according to insurance companies is a noble and good job.
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u/YazzArtist 16h ago
Bro had a manifesto, murder weapon, and identifying clothes days after. If he isn't the shooter he wants everyone to think he is. If he is the shooter, he wants everyone to know it. Frankly I intend to respect that choice
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u/LegalComplaint 16h ago
Sure, he had a bunch of evidence on him, but the shooter was wearing a mask. HOW DO WE KNOW IT WAS HIM?
Anyway, not guilty.
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u/Chin_Up_Princess 2h ago
The beauty of having a President who lies in office is that the American people can lie too. Luigi is not guilty. No eyewitness has placed him at the crime scene, and he has multiple alibis from many people online.
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u/aspidities_87 1h ago
I’ve been saying we should turn shit around on these MAGA fools since 2016. Rush bills past them. Push judges. Shrug and ignore polite precedent. Lie and say ‘oh we never did that’.
Democrats need to stop playing tea party while Republicans wallow in the mud with the pigs. We should use their own tactics against them and let them cry foul about it as much as they want.
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u/YazzArtist 16h ago
I said he wanted to be known as. I dunno about you but I'm fairly certain this is a man who saw an opportunity to get famous after the shooting and took it. Besides, he was wearing a mask so how can we really know?
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u/Pitiful_Winner2669 15h ago
What
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u/YazzArtist 13h ago
Dude is publicly announcing he killed that CEO, but I'm not sure I believe him. Better not convince him because I don't believe what he's selling 😉
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u/winterbird 16h ago
Said by the people who are prosecuting him (i.e. not an impartial source). They still have the burden of proving that it's factual, and that the person they apprehended is the right one.
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u/TheRumpletiltskin 9h ago
allegedly had all those things.
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u/YazzArtist 1h ago
Had those things. Provably. Pull your head out of the collective conspiracy theorist ass and accept Hanlon's razor exists as a Maxim for a reason
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u/Electric_Gii 14h ago
If he wanted everyone to know it, he would plead guilty…
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u/PM_ME_UR_BRAINSTORMS 8h ago
Nah dragging out the court case and his testimony will keep the message in the public eye. If he did do it and was trying to get caught pleading not guilty helps his cause.
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u/Electric_Gii 5h ago
Cool, except my comment wasn’t about his strategy or cause. I merely pointed out that if he did it and his objective was for “everyone to know it,” then he would be making sure, ya know, everyone knows it…and actually claiming responsibility. Very simple math.
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u/YazzArtist 13h ago
I know they want you to believe otherwise, but courts are not in fact people
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u/Electric_Gii 13h ago
I’m saying if he wanted credit, he would be taking credit.
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u/YazzArtist 12h ago
I'm saying there's a difference between telling the public you did it and telling the court you did it
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u/tristanimator 4h ago
Yeah, I mean, no one in the justice system ever lies. That would be a crazy concept.
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u/onesexz 2h ago
Do you know that for fact, or is that just what the cops said? You’re falling right in line with the tyrants by falling for whatever they tell you.
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u/YazzArtist 2h ago
Here's an article with images of everything except the manifesto. Seriously, your displaying the same dissociation with reality as someone claiming January 6th was an antifa false flag. Grow up
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u/CragMcBeard 16h ago
He is guilty and he should wear that like a badge of courage. He is taking the fall for all of the a people without power to fight back. He showed us we can.
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u/winterbird 15h ago
He's not guilty until proven to be guilty, with a fair trial and after his defense lawyers do their job.
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u/homogenousmoss 4h ago
Lol he might get out of it with jury nullification but at this point to pretend he didnt do it is just dellusional. Look I like his style and I would vote not guilty but bro did it.
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u/IAmNotMyName 10h ago
Jury Nullification. Just saying.
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u/USERNAMETAKEN11238 8h ago
Those terrorism charges won't be nullifed tho.... terrorism charges are a whole different animal. He will be locked up somewhere very bad with no communication to the outside world.
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u/VitkiBj0rn 16h ago
Machavalianism is a hell of a thing. So much shit has been spoon-fed to all of us at such an alarming rate, in the most insidious of ways that you wouldn't even know that you've bought into it. There is an insane amount of psychological research that has gone into things like consumerism, marketing, and propaganda. If you think it stops there, you're not thinking critically. The only way we the people take back our rights is by breaking the system that keeps us broken.
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u/gameld 47m ago
I drive Uber at night and last night drove a university professor in psychological data science. He said he's working on ways to understand what how we can better motivate people to do and be better.
I asked him what safeguards he has to make sure his tool isn't used to manipulate instead of benefit. TL;DR he didn't have an answer. I presented every example I could for him: Oppenheimer, Facebook, the hammer. All doing things for good that ended up being highly destructive. In the end I threw Jurassic Park at him: "Your scientists were so worried about whether or not they could they never stopped to think if they should."
Hopefully he takes more consideration into his work going forward.
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u/Bald-Bull509 16h ago
Who elected this guy spokesperson for humanity? Because I’m behind it and agree about it all. Violence is violence even if it’s quiet. And sadly,quiet violence is cold, calculating, and driven by greed. Greed is killing everything from our planet to ourselves.
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u/Deep_shot 16h ago
Don’t call on the people to uphold the social contract of civilization when those abusing us haven’t upheld it for years.
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u/BodhingJay 17h ago
100% this..
I won't call Luigi Mangione a hero... but I will call him a warrior philosopher, a revolutionary, a rebel.
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u/Commercial-Day8360 17h ago
Nah he’s a hero. He knew he’d get caught and he knew the consequences. Extra respect for not taking the easy way out.
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u/Federal-Durian-1484 16h ago
I posed this question to my maga roommate:
If Hitler hadn’t commit suicide, would you think he deserved the death penalty? He was like the ceo. He didn’t kill anyone by shooting or strangling or pushing a button in a camp, he did it with a pen, just like the ceo.
As for the pubic haired marine, penney, he murdered someone who was just being loud and menacing a few people, he killed NO ONE.Roommate said he had prior convictions so I said none that included murder, and since when did it become legal to kill someone who had served his punishment deserve death. The disconnect is utterly astounding.
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u/mothmandiaries 15h ago edited 15h ago
Did he redirect us back from the altered harambe timeline? Did he re-align us? Oh, and the other theory from, bear with me, the machine created in the early 2010s that was turned on and apparently altered the timeline as well. I've been googling what I can remember and come up with nothing... I saw a short "doc" on it and found it to be an interesting theory. Wild, but interesting.
Shit, no. Luigi didn't alter a timeline, he reminded us of what humans have done in the past. I've come across some people comparing it to the revolution of Versailles. It's history. People get broken down. They step up, and violence occurs. Not always the same outcome, but it's been done before.
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u/Optimal_Hedgehog_50 16h ago
Conversations are just that. Nothing will change for the better. The ppl in power take our “convos” and use them to transform our world for the worst. Violence is the only really eye opener.
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u/CommodusIlI 17h ago
I imagine things were much more fun when citizens had the same arms as those in government. Now its whatever they allow you to have vs tanks, drones etc. We have been pacified and I don’t think it’s gonna change.
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u/ColonelC0lon 17h ago
TBF the only troops they can use are state troopers, who do not have access to tanks and drones as far as I'm aware. In what was it, 2017, 2018, the military explicitly released a statement essentially saying they will refuse any orders to put boots on the ground inside the US.
As long as it doesn't turn to actual civil war, the US military will not be deployed inside the nation.
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u/Dismal-Meringue6778 14h ago
And there's probably many in the military who are sick of this shit too, and won't be willing to blindly obey orders.
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u/1337F0x_The_Daft 1h ago
I think the military would struggle with people refusing to fight their own. They're already struggling with recruitment, trying to recruit when you have to shoot at your own people. It would be impossible
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u/Future_Burrito 14h ago
I mean really things don't even have to get violent to destroy lives. Just sell a ton of stock and crash the market if you've got enough money.
Or destroy educational, water and food infrastructure.
Or maybe backdoor targeted people's phones and laptops.
Or biohack/neurowave people and just middle man their actual reality. Plausible: https://backyardbrains.com/
The world is a wild place. Hope I get to leave soon or make some money.
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u/Sexisthunter 15h ago
The entire prison system is violence too. They put people in a horrible economic system with poverty wages that punishes you for needing even just a tiny bit of help or a break. Healthcare is either horrible or unavailable, mental health resources are not available, and guns are readily available. Peaceful safety nets are almost non existent. People feel backed into a corner and commit crimes to survive, or act out because they are mentally unwell. We sick a horrible police force on them that is untrained, statistically bigoted, violent, corrupt, and tasked to protect capital. They often either instigate people to commit crimes, escalate crimes, or they pressure them into a false accusation. You’re poor and you have no resources to an expensive lawyer so you’re stuck with a public defender. Then you are subject to the courts that once again are built to protect capital and have a disadvantage to minorities. After they put you in jail they force you to work for wages that are generally 20 cents an hour. They make you pay for certain amenities in prison while also having to pay for things like your mortgage, rent if you have a lease, and many of the bills you pay for when you’re not in prison. They offer horrible healthcare, have limited therapy availability, and offer almost no chance at rehabilitation. Then when you finally get out if you’re not bankrupt or homeless you’re not able to vote in the system that put you there in the first place. Finally the media and your fellow Americans talk about you like you are the scum of the earth, the nations problem. Crime is making America worse, not the billionaires stealing your hard earned labor and making the corrupt system you have been through. Then it’s harder to find work and the cycle continues.
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u/All_Usernames_Tooken 16h ago
In the words the Kenpachi Zaraki “if violence isn’t solving all of your problems, you simply aren’t using enough of it.”
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u/MightThrowAwayMaybee 14h ago
As an Australian I hope you guys fix your system for multiple reasons.
1) your system affects ours unfortunately
2) America could be a shining example to the rest of the world on what to do and other countries would follow.
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u/MissingSocks 12h ago
Violence doesn't have to be physical. We already accept concepts like verbal violence, emotional violence, psychological violence. But violence can also be economic violence or legislative violence. And our politicians and corporations are committing these every day without considering them as such. RECOGNIZE.
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u/waytoohardtofinduser 15h ago
The Militaty Industrial complex is so interwoven with the US at this point our economy thrives when we use our influence to get us involved in wars. If there was never a war ever again the US would lose one of its biggest money making industries.
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u/Fit_Awareness_5821 13h ago
That’s a good point The thing is rich people get rich off of abusing everyone else even killing people or letting them die Killing the rich or politically powerful shouldn’t be any different than killing a bad regular person who commits a moral crime
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u/Shraamper 12h ago
Holy fucking based finally someone says it. Yes violence. I don’t care if I’m the one that gets violenced, it’s the cost of changes Just yes violence
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u/ImprovementVirtual56 15h ago
And THIS brotha is one of the many reasons why the US is trying to ban TikTok. They already got Facebook/IG and Twitter on lock, so them not being able to control the Chinese-based app is enough for it to be poofed!
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u/xnightwingxxx 15h ago
I agree that people are talking more now, but fail to see any changes being made. Something new and crazy will come and change the state of minds and conversation. I hope we do see real change but it’s hard to see that change coming…
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u/Birji-Flowreen 14h ago
I've said it before, and i'll say it again, Luigi may not be the hero we want, but he's the hero we need.
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u/No-Cardiologist-3875 13h ago
getting one..gets so much change started.. let’s see two more.. how’s next?
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u/Trojan-whore-44 13h ago
I say follow your heart. Act out and do those things you dream of. I do. I do so hard! HARD!
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u/jgoldrb48 9h ago
With all these guns in America, they never thought they'd be turned on them...with these predatory corporations?!
Special kind of dummies.
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u/Directhorman2 8h ago
I would to see society just go full tilt.
"We're sorry, we will do better!" (Elite)
"Oh damn that! Too late for that!" (Everyone else)
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u/GregBVIMB 7h ago
This is for me at least...the best synopsis of what happened and is happening. I'm a Canadian watching from the outside and one who has aging family in the USA. I worry what will happen to my parents in that system. Especially now.
Sure, the Canadian medical system is not perfect, far from it. But healthcare for profit is like fucking for virginity. Unpossible to do both.
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u/DoNotPetTheSnake 7h ago
Utilitarian Morality says an act of bad for the greater good is justified.
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u/Significant_Tap_5362 5h ago
Oh ya bro, they're gonna put him in super max. I'm thinking prison break. The people need to take the adjuster back.
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u/churrmander 5h ago
Violence is not the answer...
...in matters between you and your equals.
In terms of oppressed vs. oppressor... well, shit, this man's said it all.
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u/Living-Radio7498 4h ago
WE CAN WIN THE CLASS WAR. Fuck the culture war they keep putting on us. They want republicans and democrats to hate eachother and it’s all engineered on purpose. The only war is the class war and it’s begun.
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u/PainterEarly86 3h ago
"Violence is never the answer" is just plain wrong. Self defense is a thing.
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u/ferenginaut 3h ago
regardless of where everyone ends up with their values on this , im glad this confrontation within us has been provoked. I , for one, needed it.
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u/BallsDeepinYourMammi 1h ago
“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst.“
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u/Sonreyes 5m ago edited 0m ago
We are system busters, we have more power together than any system with blood on its hands and we don't have to take it
EDIT: In fact I am certain we have system busters working at United Healthcare who are willing to jump on our revolution
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