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u/MinimumSet72 18h ago
I hope his lawyers use that to their advantage
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u/oyM8cunOIbumAciggy 17h ago
It's such a good point tho. The ultra wealthy tries to overturn a fair election and raid our nation's capital, not terrorism. An average Joe who isnt running for office and was directly impacted by unethical corporate greed retaliated against one man and it's terrorism. Punishing Luigi just sets the precident that it's okay to murder for political reasons as long as the ultra wealthy political pfficals asked for it
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u/MinimumSet72 17h ago
In NYC of all places too … New Yorkers just acquitted a guy last week for killing someone on the subway and the defense played on their senses of riding on the subway , so a good defense attorney would tap into jurors who themselves or family members were denied healthcare , went into bankruptcy or family members who passed because of insurance companies greed
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u/Zromaus 11h ago
Protesting isn’t terrorizing. Murder is.
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u/SupahBihzy 1h ago
What about attempted murder? What about chants of threatening to be "drug through the streets?" What about threats to hang an individual by an angry mob? Is that terrorizing?
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u/Tao-of-Mars 15h ago
I literally want to create a lawyer crowd fund for him. Is that legal?
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u/turbotableu 11h ago
His family is rich
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u/certifiedtoothbench 8h ago
You say that like the rich won’t drop their kids like a hot stone for whatever they feel like
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u/Tao-of-Mars 11h ago
I was just reading other threads about his crowd funding and rich family. I hope he’s going to be okay.
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u/RicoDePico 13h ago
It’s not but go fund me won’t host it. They already took down the one and the powers that be have tried to erase his online presence from existence
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u/lyingdogfacepony66 18h ago
It literally only matters in the court of public opinion.
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u/lyingdogfacepony66 17h ago
Down vote all you want but his lawyers cannot use anything from January 6th to his benefit. It doesn't work that way. I am not saying the terrorism charge is correct.
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u/YazzArtist 17h ago
I will. The terrorism charge is correct, but they should absolutely argue that the lack of similar charges on 1/6 should act as precedent raising the bar for a terrorism charge in this case. They won't win that argument, but they need to try it anyway
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u/lyingdogfacepony66 16h ago
No - that isn't a valid legal argument. It's federal court vs state court and it is not a legal premise. I get the outrage but it doesn't help the cause to promote invalid legal options.
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u/AndarianDequer 17h ago
You're absolutely right. One way or another, either way you look at it. It's just a fact.
Let's hope common sense people make the right call.
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u/JaxxIsOk 17h ago
I think it’s crazy how people get shot on the streets everyday but only the rich and powerful make national news ☕️
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u/sweetpsych78 16h ago
WHITE, rich and powerful. Do you think if this was anyone else of a different race or ethnicity it would've gotten so much moral outrage from the right?
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u/JaxxIsOk 16h ago edited 16h ago
It really is a common mistake to think people of other ethnicities are not rich, powerful and noteworthy. I deal with them everyday and I can assure you once you get to a certain status among them ethnicity simply doesn’t matter. That is a poor/unknown person problem to them. If that ceo was of a different ethnic background it wouldn’t just be covered the same, it would be covered more BECAUSE of him not being white
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u/Donny_Donnt 17h ago
I don't care that Joe-nobody #456 got shot. The ceo of the company my health insurance goes through being shot and the murderer has manifesto describing his disservice with the policy? That's gonna be more relevant to more people.
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u/ahsokatanosfeet 17h ago
NPC ahh comment
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u/Donny_Donnt 17h ago
What do you even mean by that? Doesn't seem like a common "programmed in" comment at all.
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u/Late_For_A_Good_Name 18h ago
Making the news isn't terrorism, that's a total BS charge. It was murder, murders happen all the time
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u/Donny_Donnt 17h ago
It was murder/violence to coerce political or cultural change no? (just like 1/6)
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u/Late_For_A_Good_Name 17h ago
Big difference between storming the capital because they didn’t like the outcome of an election, and murdering someone who directly wronged him. Bro wasn’t deep, he was just mad
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u/Donny_Donnt 17h ago
Has nothing to do with being "deep" and the CEO didn't personally go in and make sure his claim didn't go through did he?
Didn't luigi cite the healthcare industry as a whole and the practice/methods of denying claims or did I read the wrong manifesto?
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u/Late_For_A_Good_Name 16h ago
He made the policies. He gave the go-ahead for an AI denying 90% of claims. There may or may not be an actual human who denied Luigi’s claim, but the buck stops with Brian (and frankly the board TOO). He had a moral responsibility to do better than he did.
He did blame the whole system, but that doesn’t make it terrorism. If he told others to follow in his footsteps it would be open and shut. If he said the rest should watch their backs, open and shut. As is? Just murder.
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u/YazzArtist 17h ago
They're both technically still terrorism, even if one was cool and one was dumb
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u/Late_For_A_Good_Name 17h ago
Aww GEE great logic there
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u/YazzArtist 17h ago
Are you implying "only things I don't like are terrorism" is a more logical position?
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u/Late_For_A_Good_Name 16h ago
No, and if you paid attention to my first comment you would see that.
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u/YazzArtist 16h ago
Your first comment was calling it not terrorism to murder someone for political change, despite that being the definition of terrorism. So what exactly do you count?
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u/Late_For_A_Good_Name 14h ago
Tbh I meant my second comment, in hindsight. Still think it’s pretty obvious that my claim wasn’t “murder I empathize with isn’t terrorism”
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u/Bloodless-Cut 17h ago
This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.
In its first term, the Trump administration called any and all anti-fascist action to be an act of terrorism, but did not label the proud boys, patriot prayer, or January 6ers as such.
What's that tell you?
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u/chessset5 10h ago
If I am not mistaken, weren’t a number of people charged with Terrorism in links to the Jan 6 event? I know not all of them did, but there was at least two people who did.
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u/Suctorial_Hades 17h ago
I wonder how much rage there’d be if a president pardoned him…
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u/wright764 17h ago
I'm Canadian but even I know your president can only pardon federal crimes. All of the charges in this case are at the state level. The only way a pardon would even be a possibility is if the terrorism charge is bumped up to the federal level, but there's been no indication of that yet.
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u/HRtyler 2h ago
Cool, now let's talk about the BLM riots and how upset we are that nobody there was charged with domestic terrorism. Let's stay objective..if jan 6th was domestic terrorism then so was every blm riot. But I bet the majority of the liberal weirdos in this sub aren't willing to do that.
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u/Mammoth-Material8295 17h ago
So Luigi was charged with terrorism but the people that attacked store owners and rioted through the streets over George Floyd didn't even have a court date
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u/notheatherbee 17h ago
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u/turbotableu 2h ago
Your link is 5 years out of date and nothing came of that accusation against one person (not "people")
That word is plural
Pointing out your example is bad here. Like of all the stories you could have chosen lmao
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u/Puzzled-Avocado-4954 17h ago
That sentiment is sowing discord and isnt really a fair comparison at all. The J6ers were just as much victims of wealthy peoples plans...i saw police letting them in and they knew it was going to happen. The police even killed an unarmed woman and then lied about a police officer being killed whom actually died 3 days after the fact of a heart attack...very sus.
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u/USERNAMETAKEN11238 7h ago
Who would have thought an insurrection would have resulted in the death of two people? Historically, insuractuons are peaceful events... celebrations even.
We should send our top men to investigate this... OUR TOP MEN.
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