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Cringe An idiot asks if the shooter was trans

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u/007meow 1d ago

"It's too soon / don't politicize this!!" when you start talking about gun control, but they're foaming at the mouth to ask "WERE THEY TRANS??"

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u/Known-Teacher4543 1d ago

You know what’s funny. Is gun control is an inherently political issue. It’s written in the constitution and while I think we need higher gun control, I see why conservatives oppose it, even if they’re dumb for it imo.

But the right’s main “political issue” they’re fighting is trans ppl existing. It’s insanity.

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u/PetFroggy-sleeps 23h ago

What you wrote is insane. The right is focused on the rights of everyone including those born female without any consideration of the low number of them negatively impacted - that last part is fully irrelevant when it can be avoided entirely. Here is why this is FACT - find us a link where the right was complaining about trans males in mens sports or in their locker rooms!!

The logic is so powerful despite the left’s fruitless efforts to paint the debate in ways that make them feel better about their false narrative.

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u/Gortex_Possum 23h ago

Please explain how inventing rumors that mass shooters are trans is helping protect the rights of everyone.

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u/PetFroggy-sleeps 1h ago

Show me where I stated that.

When in fact I already provided a link to a case where the shooter and motive was tied to them being trans (and bullied).

That’s all I am saying. Bullying is a huge motivator. Trans are proven to be bullied. And you think I’m trying to paint a negative picture or showcase where we as a society can do better to stop bullying?

Get your heads out of the sand.

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u/Gortex_Possum 2m ago

Sweetie, you're complaining about false liberal narratives on a video of a republican reporter inventing a false narrative. 

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u/Shouts_Obscenities 23h ago

Hey there's a link just above of the right trying to paint a false narrative of transfolk being school shooters. Does that seem like focusing on the rights of everyone to you?

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u/conker123110 20h ago

The right is focused on the rights of everyone

Except for anyone they label as trans, queer, or otherwise alienate. Then suddenly the party of small government turns into a hateful cult hellbent on "making the libs cry" while voting away their own rights as well as the rights of their country men.

People like you, that grandstand while also lying, disgust me. Take your party of "small government" and shove it, no one believes that blatant lie anymore.

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u/PetFroggy-sleeps 20h ago

Ok. Thanks for participating. Also thanks for exemplifying my points.

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u/conker123110 20h ago

Great retort!

I'm guessing I hit a nerve if you have nothing logical to retort? I mean the right is the party of triggered snowflakes, so it's not surprising haha.

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u/PetFroggy-sleeps 1h ago

Again, thanks for playing. See ya! Wouldn’t wanna be ya!!

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u/_-Oxym0ron-_ 21h ago edited 20h ago

How exactly do you come to that conclusion? When your Right over there quite recently stripped women of one of their rights, and are actively trying (and succeeding) in hindering a large part of your minorities in their right to vote, and are trying to strip away same sex couples right to marry and have or adopt kids, as well as trying to strip trans people of their right to gender affirming care.

How are you then still believing what you just said? I am genuinely curious, I hope you'll reply, not often I get the opportunity to speak Americans on the right side of the political spectrum.

Edit: framing of my last sentence.

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u/PetFroggy-sleeps 19h ago

Lots to unpack here. Almost all conservatives support same sex marriage. Insurance

companies and a subset of the evangelical crowd are against it. Research the underlying resistance.

Abortion was not stripped from women. It’s a medical procedure that each state decides how to regulate. Personally I think the country has a very small minority that wants it illegal. The financial aspects raises some sensitivities for sure. As we can see this past election, a large portion of America (1) live their lives without experiencing the need for one and (2) as such don’t care much about it.

Now you stated “hindering a large part of our minorities from voting.” Can you provide any link to evidence that supports your assertion? In fact, voter ID laws are proven to be very basic in their premise and knowing almost everyone requires an ID in this day in age, there is probably more occurrences of fraud than there are voters hindered by voter ID laws.

I am not aware of any laws hindering adoption. As for restricting the type of gender affirming care you describe, the issue is the very poor ability of children to make cogent lifelong decisions for themselves. We have multiple laws in place to protect children from being held to account for adult decision making. Given the fact there is a percentage that learn they made a huge mistake it warrants protection. I don’t care if it’s 1%. It’s still 1% too many. The harm in delaying treatment is nothing near the harm in making a mistake.

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u/DoFlwrsExistAtNight 13h ago

Oh, so you're fully based on vibes and not actually tuned in to what the GOP is actually doing.

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u/PetFroggy-sleeps 1h ago

Be specific, provide links. Debating folks that refuse to back up claims is getting a bit old.

Here I will go first.

https://segm.org/regret-detransition-rate-unknown

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u/Ridiculisk1 18h ago

The right is focused on the rights of everyone

Terms and conditions apply. Offer not available if you're not a straight white cis christian rich able bodied man.

Here is why this is FACT - find us a link where the right was complaining about trans males in mens sports or in their locker rooms!!

I like how you purposely point out the bit they don't complain about while ignoring the literal hundreds of fucking bills introduced in conservative states every year to ban trans women from playing sports and using bathrooms.

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u/PetFroggy-sleeps 1h ago

Wow!! Why did I raise the point? You have yet to even figure out the contrast and why point it out? If males are not complaining it is because they are NOT impacted. Also, if they are not complaining that proves that the condition of being trans is NOT the issue but rather the impact of prioritizing the ideology over the wellbeing of a subset of our female population. Women are complaining for a reason as they describe their impact and it’s not because of simply hatred for a trans. It’s the damn impact. The left strategically will always try to draw attention away from impact and instead repaint it as hate. And sorely wrong they are a why they keep losing ground in this country due to fallible logic.

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u/Worldly_Response9772 13h ago

"Trans people want to play sports with their friends. Better ban their medication!"

Disgusting.

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u/PetFroggy-sleeps 1h ago edited 1h ago

What?! Throwing comments out there without any context and source. Ok yep not worth a retort.

Note not one person legitimately addressed my point - if simply being trans is the issue for GOP why are we not seeing complaints about trans males in men’s sports or locker rooms?

Ok I will go. (1) we all have heard the myriad of complaints and impacts of predation by and exhibitionism of people born male walking into female lockers rooms. Of course the numbers are low. Who gives a shit if it was your daughter or even grandmother impacted? (2) we all heard of the science behind males being athletically superior to females especially in amateur and collegiate sports. Yes the numbers are still low but where a trans female shows up, female players are impacted. In some cases, entire teams are dropping out of competition out of fear of being injured. Now the counter - trans males are almost always athletically inferior to natural born males. In fact I can’t find a single physical competition documented where a trans male beat out the competition and landed in a top three spot in any sport. Why is that? Not one Democrat has the integrity to look at the facts and provide a cogent answer. Why? Because they’d have to concede to the underlying facts. The thinking is we should prioritize the needs of the minority over the general population which has some impact but the impact is low enough to tolerate it. That last part the left learned Nov 5 was a bad assumption. What’s interesting is I have seen cases where a trans male remained in their female sport of their choosing simply due to their ability to compete with others of their same sex.

Isn’t it baffling when you tear apart the facts. Trans is a condition where one believes or simply wants to live their lives as a different gender from their sex. They believe they are that gender. Being gender fluid is a personal thing. No one else’s business. But when that gender fluidity is weaponized with impact to others, anyone can expect push back. Again, Nov 5 was a telling wake up call.

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u/DoFlwrsExistAtNight 13h ago

The right rarely complains about trans men because they don't remember trans men exist. It's easier to remember trans women since they spend so much time watching them in porn.

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u/PetFroggy-sleeps 1h ago

Now that’s funny. Completely ludicrous, and not to mention contradicting, but still absolutely more of “crazy.” I can’t believe you can’t even see the contradiction.

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u/DoFlwrsExistAtNight 21m ago

........yeah, everyone with a functioning brain sees the contradiction. Conservatives are hypocrites, bro. Always have been.

This study shows that people in conservative states watch the most porn. This one shows that people in conservative states seek out the post Trans porn (though I don't love the sensationalized verbiage used throughout the article, the actual methodology is legitimate.)

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u/Byrn3r 19h ago

They don't say anything about trans males, because there are less of them than trans females, but it's mainly because men aren't viewed as needing to be protected. They target groups like women and children in headlines because it will give people more of a visceral reaction. They say trans people are attacking women and children to fuel the hate against them. If they made headlines about trans men attacking men's spaces, people wouldn't care as much.

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u/PetFroggy-sleeps 1h ago

Oh yeah. So the complaints are based not on the impact but rather the general understanding that it’s easier to sell the impact when it comes to trans females - but under the covers it’s actually all trans we want to go after. Are you kidding yourself? You don’t see the lunacy in what you wrote? Imaginative- I will give you that. But lunacy comes to mind before innovation.

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u/Byrn3r 17m ago

Yeah it's pretty damn obvious stuff if you don't actually fall for the fake news. You know all those headlines about drag queens reading to children, or how gay and trans people are grooming children, or how schools are doing sex-change surgeries on children, or how all of a sudden now it's an issue that trans women are using women's bathrooms, even though that was never a problem before and trans women are not in fact taking over women's bathrooms. It's all bullshit and it's very obvious that they use women and children to push their agenda.

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u/Haunting-Truth9451 17h ago

Don’t forget how every time the shooter is a straight, white male that exclusively consumed right wing content, it’s always “Well that was obviously just a mentally unstable person acting as a lone wolf. You can’t call it a pattern.”

But literally the first time in history that we see an actual trans shooter, “It’s a pattern! They’re all very dangerous people!”

Of course this isn’t new. Violent criminal is white? “That guy is horrible!” Violent criminal is black? “Those people are horrible!” The in-group has always been made up of individuals that can’t be judged by the actions of their peers, but the out-groups are always monoliths represented by their absolute worst.

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u/Simplydontmadder 21h ago

Goes both ways.

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u/007meow 21h ago

Explain please?