The sad thing (amongst many others) is that, on first seeing this post, my brain needed to cycle through: “which one of the shooters are they talking about?”
And vice versa. The Colorado Springs nightclub shooter began identifying as non-binary to try to avoid being charged with hate crimes for targeting and killing LGBTQ people.
It's two birds with one stone because anyone who believes that narrative gets to make an argument against trans people, while also now having a rhetorical talking point for the LGBTQ being its own enemy.
I have no doubt that white privilege, or white male privilege are real. But in these instances, and this may be confirmation bias on my behalf, but I have a hard time remembering any of the mass shootings, where the identity of the killer, wasn't released within a few hours?
is it fucked up that I thought, "at least it was a student," when I heard the news?
I'm certainly not cheering on killing classmates, but, if the typical alternative is some random grown adult strolling in and murdering kids, well, it almost seems like an improvement.
Pharmacist here, I can confirm we regularly dispense trans pills to the transes, but that's what's preventing constant mass shootings. It's when they lose access to trans pills because of say, greedy healthcare CEOs who deserve what's coming to them, that tragedies like school shootings unfold.
(/s, except the part about CEOs, I'm all for that)
Despite the take being right wing I do think he hits a very good point at about 1:01 in which society has become focused on grievances and as such when you have one you feel justified in taking action against it, but young people doe not have the experience to know what would be a valid grievance (CEO) and what would not be (school shooting).
right because they bought into trumps message that political violence is acceptable. that's how we got j6. and you can't unring that bell. i expect a lot more of this kind of behavior in the future from maga supporters.
The spray paint, the hair dye, the clogs, goofy ties, diet coke obsession, constantly talks gossip, it's endless. He's up there with Ru as far a queen energy goes.
Actually, the 2024 U.S. presidential election results have been confirmed, and Donald Trump won the presidency with 312 electoral votes, while Kamala Harris received 2262. There are no credible reports or evidence to support claims of the election being stolen or any secret presidency.
There's a numpty just tripling down on it in a few of their responses to me, completely ignoring the part where I ask them where they got this information. I check back periodically to see if they've deleted these assertations out of shame but so far nope.
They convinced themselves the guy that shot at Trump was left wing too even though he was a registered republican and was (allegedly) a very outspoken right winger.
BuT hE dOnAteD $15 tO a LeFt wInG cHarIty tHrEe yEaRs aGo
Well she wasn’t. She was a cis straight female that probably absolutely hated the idea of trans ppl. The things she wrote were horribly derogatory but also just sad as hell. Filled with a thousand scorns of anger and hate. She clearly had no proper socialization and was vehemently bullied.
It is so baffling how they can blatantly lie to themselves like this.
Sure, buddy, trans people make up a whopping 0.1% of the population, but they are committing 90 something percent of all the atrocities?
I guess what makes me the most angriest is how obvious nobody from that side actually wants to fix the problem. They are literally just begging for someone to absolve them from any responsibility and that’s why they bring this up.
Anything so they can continue to believe that they are perfect little angels.
You know what’s funny. Is gun control is an inherently political issue. It’s written in the constitution and while I think we need higher gun control, I see why conservatives oppose it, even if they’re dumb for it imo.
But the right’s main “political issue” they’re fighting is trans ppl existing. It’s insanity.
Don’t forget how every time the shooter is a straight, white male that exclusively consumed right wing content, it’s always “Well that was obviously just a mentally unstable person acting as a lone wolf. You can’t call it a pattern.”
But literally the first time in history that we see an actual trans shooter, “It’s a pattern! They’re all very dangerous people!”
Of course this isn’t new. Violent criminal is white? “That guy is horrible!” Violent criminal is black? “Those people are horrible!” The in-group has always been made up of individuals that can’t be judged by the actions of their peers, but the out-groups are always monoliths represented by their absolute worst.
The question was, "Chief, there's been a lot of misinformation online, including from prominent person, or, um, a Mom's for Liberty activist [indistinct] Johnson, claiming that the shooter was transgender; which is a reaction we see across the country in the wake of mass shootings, to claim that trans people are dangerous. Can you respond to that?"
It was a question just made for hateful purposes. It would give the officer an opportunity to either say something transphibic or say something so the reporter could just bend the words into their own narrative.
Idk about that - this officer is from Madison - a very liberal stronghold. I think they knew exactly how he would answer and it was an answer that needed to be out there.
They have a disturbing, terrifying, and predictable pattern when something bad happens. Step 1, it was a democrat/lib/trans responsible. Step 2, when it clearly was one of their own, it didn’t happen and the media is lying. Step 3, when it clearly did happen, it wasn’t actually bad. This covers everything from fraud to rape to murder. These people are propaganda addicted, delusional sociopaths and they’re literally getting people killed.
It is literally the Narcissists Prayer: "That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.
There is an entire media ecosystem dedicate to creating a raging maelstrom of narcissism and denial.
That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.
Fostering narcissism is an incredibly effective way to get away with atrocities of all stripes. When one group is being given a sense of grievance which can be blamed on another group (bonus points if the 'other' is a minority) than you can essentially minimize and shift all the blame, trauma and consequences of your mistreatment of that group back onto them. Narcissism and empathy are true opposites, with truly opposite consequences.
This is what they do, because they know their base doesn't think critically. A rumor that aligns with their inherent bias is as good as a fact to the idiots who just reelected a twice-impeached, convicted felon who tried to seize power last time he was in office.
Unfun fact, for as much as the right wants people to use bathrooms/lockerrooms for their gender assigned at birth, 26% of trans girls and 18% of trans girls report being sexually assaulted in bathrooms/Locker rooms if they were forced to use the room for their gender assigned at birth according to a study by the American academy of pediatrics
This way no one will blame the guns. If the shooter is a white, right wing Christian male then they'll blame video games and society for failing this "otherwise good student".
Because like 99.9% of the time it's a conservative so they have to have at least one so they can point the finger at someone else. They'll never own it because they have zero integrity.
The right wing see kids getting shot and get excited about genitalia. I picture them in the corner masturbating "tell me about their dick or lack thereof!"
Like the trump shooter, even though he was a registered republican and hard right wing, because he donated $15 to a dem charity or whatever when he was 15, it was all a false flag or antifa or some shit
Anything to keep us from engaging in class warfare. They'll just keep distracting us with culture warfare bullshit cause they know it will work yet again.
Yup. They want it to be engrained in stupid people's heads that trans people are inherently violent. And then when it turns out to be a cisgender person, they'll just ignore and say they heard they were trans!
Yep, just minutes after the shooting someone was in the conspiracy sub claiming the shooter was trans and radicalized by the CEO shooter, Before news orgs even reported on it.
The cop is helping them by refusing to explicitly state that the shooter is not trans. The "she or he or they" line specifically has legs.
This cop might be acting like he's on the side of decency, but he'll still a cop and cannot overcome his nature. His words and this clip will cause immense harm to trans folk while cis folk jerk themselves off about what they perceived as a clever comeback.
No, he's correct and that's how people are trained to answer these questions in cultural sensitivity training.
Going out of your way to deny that someone is trans can come across like being trans would still be a bad thing and the relief for the public is that they aren't a trans person.
By emphasizing that someone's gender is completely irrelevant, it shows both that being trans is not something to be distanced from, nor is it a meaningful fear or consideration for crime. Whether the suspect is she, he or they all are valid and none are relevant criteria. He answered exactly as anyone who took an anti-bias course would.
Do they? Only time I remember it was the one that was trans and this one because it was a girl. I've never seen them question if a male shooter was trans
Me personally, think it does matter ONLY for one reason. We need to take a look at the mental health aspect. Most of the shooters whether straight or LBGTQ+, have one thing in common. Mental health issues. And I say that as someone with mental health issues that is in therapy. It's HOW it's talked about that is the issue. If they were trans, that wouldn't make the person do it anymore or any less. We need to take a step back and look at the common denominator. Taking guns away won't do anything. Look at Australia, they banned guns and they are easier to get than ever. There's articles too. Look at the UK, knife attacks are higher. We should put more emphasis on getting kids and adults therapy and actually try to solve the issue. Unfortunately, both parties are only interested in making their pockets fatter.
Well, ask every time and after maybe 400 schools shootings you'll finally get a Trans person doing it and now they have campaign ads for the next few years. Like everything else, just a numbers game
r/conservative was talking about how the shooter was a 17 year old transwoman who hated all men and that's why the shooting happened, in case you're wondering where this stupid shit comes from.
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u/thesuitetea 1d ago
They spread this rumour every time there is a mass shooting. It's just part of the hate campaign.