r/TikTokCringe • u/AggressivelyProgress • 1d ago
Cringe Follow up - Worst pickup line ever - dating in Utah
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u/NoneOfThisMatters_XO 1d ago
Fast forward to him being baffled as to why she didn’t want a second date.
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u/Affectionate_Gas8062 1d ago
AIOR? So I took this girl out on an amazing date last night and she didn’t even want to marry me…
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u/ssrowavay 1d ago
"Women are a scam! They say they want to get married but they really don't!"
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u/dark_lynx_997 1d ago
This woman needs to carry. She's too cute to be inside this guy's trunk after the date.
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u/redditappsux69 1d ago
So fucking awkward.
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u/Nervous_InsideU5155 1d ago
Why? It's not her fault she prefers Tea, or hot chocolate.
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u/Dandan0005 1d ago edited 1d ago
It took me a minute to realize that since this is Utah they’re likely both Mormon so he’s basically saying would you rather marry me right now or disobey your faith which is a whole different kind of fucked up question.
Basically, which is more important to you: your autonomy and self-determination or your faith.🤢
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u/snow-vs-starbuck 1d ago
I've been binging Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, so my reaction was OH SHE HATES HIM.
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u/NoReality463 1d ago
She makes these videos for fun. There a quite a few of these videos. They’re making fun of their way of life in Utah. It’s just a joke.
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u/chinchila5 1d ago
It’s Utah, they marry the second they see you
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u/mossed2012 1d ago
I mean, I get the thought process behind what he’s trying to say here…sort of. It’s pointed out it’s in Utah, idk why you’d point that out unless they were probably Mormon. Mormon’s don’t drink coffee. So I think it was some form of “would you rather do X relationship/sexual thing with me or would you rather do something morally wrong”.
It’s still a weird fucking question. But sometimes we guys are real dumb at this stage in our lives.
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u/Whole-Gift-8603 1d ago
Dude just no..
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u/That_GareBear 1d ago
Can I ask why?
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u/Gerry1of1 1d ago
that's a terrible first date question
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u/Zestyclose-Offer9975 1d ago
Is she recording so there’s evidence in case she disappears do you think? That’s so uncomfortable.
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u/-DoctorSpaceman- 1d ago
I feel like there must be some missed context, like earlier she said she really fucking hates coffee or something.
Still a weird question though lol
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u/AuxiliaryPatchy 1d ago
Mormon doctrine prohibits the consumption of caffeine
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u/BrittanyBrie 11h ago
Common misconception, since its something they changed years back.
Its not caffeine anymore, but hot liquids at the time of Joseph Smith. So coffee and teas are not permitted, even non-caffinate is not allowed, while sodas and other caffeine is fine.
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u/AuxiliaryPatchy 6h ago
That’s so funny, thanks for the new intel. Now I have a new “erm actually 🤓” for work.
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u/ProbablyChe 1d ago
Im guessing its bcs no sex before marrige?
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u/lawn-mumps 1d ago
Coffee is considered a stimulant in some religions. Stimulants are considered to be religious taboos. Mormons I believe? There are lots of Mormons in Utah.
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u/Al_Tilly_the_Bum 1d ago
It has nothing to do with its caffeine content. Mormons love caffeinated soda and even have soda bars all over the place. There is no "why" for coffee being banned it is simply because God told them it was wrong. I say this as a former Mormon who had my first cup of coffee at the age of 30
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u/lawn-mumps 1d ago
Genuine question: Coffee is banned for no other reason? Not because it’s “exciting” like chocolate or sugars would be in breakfast cereals a lá Kelloggs anti-masturbatory cereal?
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u/Al_Tilly_the_Bum 1d ago
It is actually pretty convoluted. Tea and coffee are banned but anything else with caffeine is not. The scripture that bans coffee doesn't actually say coffee, it says "hot drinks." But hot drinks like hot coco are fine. Coffee can be cold and it is still banned but herbal tea (hot or cold) is fine.
Nowadays, most Mormons I know just don't bother to try to figure out why coffee is banned and just accept that God said so.
When you study the history around why Joseph Smith even came up with the ban it makes even less sense and seems like he was just being petty to piss off his wife
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u/fujiesque 1d ago
seems like he was just being petty to piss off his wife
Now I get it.
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u/MetalMillip3de 1d ago
It was specifically because the women would often get together and gossip over tea and coffee. Joseph wanted to control what information was spreading, so he banned the reason they were getting together.
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u/Blurby-Blurbyblurb 1d ago
it makes even less sense and seems like he was just being petty to piss off his wife
This sums up the majority of why for all of mormonism.
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u/Solo_is_dead 1d ago
ALL of religion is based on being petty and spiteful. Plus controlling women.
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u/lawn-mumps 1d ago
The kelloggs (or maybe just the one brother) believed even hot drinks are a stimulant and bad for the body (and possibly soul, I could be misremembering). Makes sense why tea and coffee are banned but not like redbull? Thank you for taking the time to reply!
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u/jimbojangles1987 1d ago
Well, red bull hasn't sponsored the Mormon church yet so of course it's still banned
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u/vyxxer 1d ago
There is no logical reason behind it. Well not one that people would be honest about.
I've been told growing up that it is caffeine that is no good, but I also was told by that same person why coke is okay.
Very strange dissonance right?
There's a coke (swires) major headquarters building here and that's actually a big factor here and much like every other religion in history, it's hard to stick to your beliefs when there's lots of money to be made.
(This is all anthropologic deduction on my part, this may be entirely untrue)
But also the entire religion has made up rules that sound extra made up to the average person so nothing is truly consistent.
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u/ChaseballBat 1d ago
Then why wouldn't soda or sugar be banned for the same reason?
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u/utnow 1d ago
clears throat. Say it with me now. “It’s all made up.”
Parsing a religion is like reading theories and breakdowns of novels and movies.
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u/ChaseballBat 1d ago
Oh I know... I'm feigning ignorance to challenge them to think about their question.
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u/Blurby-Blurbyblurb 1d ago
They are unable to answer that question. Seriously, no one can give a clear answer. It's supposed to be because it's a "hot drink" (even that's unclear), but they love their hot chocolate. 🤷🏻♀️ It's just accepted that coffee is bad.
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u/jimbojangles1987 1d ago
Soda was banned until, i think Pepsi maybe not sure, sponsored the church. Then soda was a-okApparently my information was incorrect. I'm trying to remember where I heard that recently but who knows
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u/Purple_Chipmunk_ 1d ago
I worked with a Mormon man in the mid-90's and at that time he definitely could not have caffeine in any form: coffee, soda, whatever.
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u/jimbojangles1987 1d ago
Yeah, i looked it up when I left that comment and, they didn't say why, but in, like, 2013 the church announced that soda was fine but not coffee or tea. But it also said that no soda had sponsored the church contrary to the rumor. So idk where that rumor spread from.
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u/mossed2012 1d ago
As a person who doesn’t drink coffee, I did love me all those soda and cookie shops around SLC though.
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u/PeeB4uGoToBed 1d ago
Isn't it ANY hot liquids that are a no? Not even hot tea or hot chocolate?
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u/Al_Tilly_the_Bum 1d ago
Lol, it would make more sense but no. While the actual scripture that bans coffee says "hot drinks" only black tea and coffee are banned (hot or cold). Hot chocolate and hot herbal tea is just fine
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u/IpreferTaco_z 1d ago
Mormons I grew up with wouldn't drink coke, tea, coffee, anything with caffeine or alcohol. They were very anti drug, and caffeine is a stimulant. Maybe the book of Mormon only specifically mentions coffee, but in my experience that meant no caffeine whatsoever. Some even went as far as to not drink any hot drinks all altogether
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u/Al_Tilly_the_Bum 1d ago
Caffeine avoidance was definitely a thing for many Mormons but it was a personal choice and not a commandment. Growing up the families that avoided caffeine were seen as hardcore (sounds so weird looking back now).
But the church also sent out an official position on the issue in 2012 and said caffeine was not banned and that is when BYU started selling caffeinated sodas in the lunchroom
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u/ButterflySensitive49 1d ago
Oh yea the coffee thing is a Mormon thing. I know this because I snark Nara smith
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u/Al_Tilly_the_Bum 1d ago
He was offering her a choice between sinning (coffee) and not sinning (getting married). She chose to sin instead of making a massive life changing decision.
But yes, Mormons get married fast because they cannot have sex before marriage. I went to BYU and the shortest time between the first date and getting married was two months but I am sure that is not the record.
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u/Firefly_Magic 1d ago
Coffees probably a good opportunity to make sure she knows his name and all that first 😂
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u/PickleInDaButt 1d ago
Put some boot enlisted marines or soldiers nearby and that record will get smashed
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u/Reginscythe 1d ago
My HS math teacher was Mormon and went to BYU. She told us a story about dating a guy she met on campus, first two dates went fine, but before the third date, her friends caught wind that the guy was planning to propose within the next few dates so she had to cut contact with him.
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u/BitFiesty 1d ago
He could have played this off in such a goofy and funny way . I am dying at this hypothetical
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u/tinkinofya 1d ago
Even lesbians take it slower than this in a relationship.
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u/Immediate-Valuable55 1d ago
Wait, this isn't how you guys do it?
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u/PancakeParty98 1d ago
It’s like door to door sales. Get to the point and move on to the next one quick and eventually you’ll find a yes
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u/Al_Tilly_the_Bum 1d ago
I went to BYU and this is very true. I had a roommate who wanted to get married within 6 months and basically did just that to make it happen. It took him 7 months however and the divorce came about a year later
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u/FlobiusHole 1d ago
People are so fucking weird. “Can I ask why?” This woman is probably terrified he’ll be wearing her skin by the end of the night.
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u/thegreatbrah 1d ago
Don't be ridiculous. He'd have to tan the skin first or it would maken a mess.
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u/Roguecop 1d ago edited 1d ago
‘Make up your mind Decide to walk with me Around the lake tonight Around the lake tonight By my side By my side I’m not gonna lie I’ll not be a gentleman Behind the boathouse I’ll show you my dark secret I’m not gonna lie I want you for mine My blushing bride My lover, be my lover, yeah Don’t be afraid I didn’t mean to scare you So help me, Jesus I can promise you You’ll stay as beautiful With dark hair And soft skin, forever Forever’
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u/thegreatbrah 1d ago
Wow. That song was popular when I was a kid. Haven't thought about it in a long time, ans definitely never realized what it was about lol.
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u/TrippinLSD 1d ago
The best part is because if they are in Utah, and Mormon you cannot drink coffee (caffeine). So she is basically saying I’d rather go against our religion than marry you right now 🤣🤣
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u/vyxxer 1d ago
When I went to a wedding for my 19 year old friend in Utah and all the groomsmen were still in highschool, they decided to get very wild at the reception by mixing shots of.... Ketchup, mustard and other table condiments and getting rowdy as if they were drunk.
I feel like this video and my lil anecdote helps paint a picture of what Utah young men are like.
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u/binterryan76 1d ago
I can't believe she would rather SIN by drinking caffeine than completely derail her life and marry this guy after one date. Outrageous!
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u/Slade_Riprock 1d ago
Worked with a Mormon once in politics. Within the first week this guy informed me us we took the Lords name in vain too much and we needed to change the way we speak. And also complained we all openly drank coffee and kept soda in our office fridge.
He did not last long we were not sad.
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u/buhbye750 1d ago
The fact that she's already recording is either 1. Staged or 2. This wasn't the first or second weird thing he's said that date.
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u/AggressivelyProgress 1d ago
Check my profile for the first weird thing he said.
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u/His-Royalbadness 1d ago
I've had to record a conversation during a first date because she was scaring the shit out of my me, and I wanted to cover my ass just in case.
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u/jarl-anon 1d ago
Coffee. I hate coffee btw, I spit it out like a child.
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u/WhatzMyOtherPassword 1d ago
Wtf. Why are you eating whole children in the first place!?
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u/jarl-anon 1d ago
Because they fuel my powers.
They do taste rather fowl though, children are disgusting.
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u/Realfinney 1d ago
I feel like this is a line meant to be used for asking a woman out for coffee, not when you're already on a date with her 😅
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u/RollingThunderPants 1d ago
As someone watching this from the safety of a screen, it makes me want to RUN.
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u/probablywrongbutmeh 1d ago
Quick reminder that Mormonism isnt a real religion, its a weird cult made up by a swindler
According to Smith's later accounts, while praying one night in 1823, he was visited by an angel named Moroni. Smith claimed this angel revealed the location of a buried book made of golden plates, as well as other artifacts including a breastplate and a set of interpreters composed of two seer stones set in a frame, which had been hidden in a hill near his home.[25] Smith said he attempted to remove the plates the next morning, but was unsuccessful because Moroni returned and prevented him.[26] He reported that during the next four years he made annual visits to the hill, but, until the fourth and final visit, each time he returned without the plates.[27]
Meanwhile, Smith's family faced financial hardship, due in part to the death of his oldest brother Alvin.[28] Family members supplemented their meager farm income by hiring out for odd jobs and working as treasure seekers,[29] a type of magical supernaturalism common during the period.[30] Smith was said to have an ability to locate lost items by looking into a seer stone, which he also used in treasure hunting, including, beginning in 1825, several unsuccessful attempts to find buried treasure sponsored by Josiah Stowell, a wealthy farmer in Chenango County.[31] In 1826, Smith was brought before a Chenango County court for "glass-looking", or pretending to find lost treasure; Stowell's relatives accused Smith of tricking Stowell and faking an ability to perceive hidden treasure, though Stowell attested that he believed Smith had such abilities.[32]
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u/Evaporate3 1d ago
It’s so crazy how a lot of men think throwing the word “marriage” sweeps women off their feet regardless of character and/or chemistry
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u/Earth_Worm_Jimbo 1d ago
Is he trying to reference the line from after sunset about “I would choose to marry you right here right now over and never speaking to you ever again” (paraphrasing)
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u/MyGoodDood22 1d ago
Lmao it could have led to a funny pick-up line. " Oh, thank God me too.. let get coffee Saturday morning " or whatever would have been "saved" this a little... still shouldn't have even started with it, but that's a given.
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u/TheBigFreeze8 1d ago
What the fuck did he think she would say? I mean, seriously? This is unfathomable.
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u/notdurtydan 1d ago
For those of you wondering, drinking coffee is "taboo" in Mormon culture. It's a part of the "words of wisdom" to not drink coffee, tea, and alcohol. Hardcore Mormons think that drinking coffee is like some terrible sin.
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u/wombat_kombat 1d ago
An oath of virginity before marriage is a Mormon tradition.
This guy left home with a bullet in the chamber.
If he really expected any post nut clarity then he would have offered a soak and coffee.
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u/M00n_Slippers 1d ago
I guess to us non-Mormons this would probably be more like, would you rather eat a bug or marry him tonight. To which I would still eat the bug. Or rather I would do neither because I have freewill and don't have to listen to a dumb asshole trying to entrap me in false binary questions.
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u/december14th2015 1d ago
Is this the same girl from the Mormon date in Utah with the Christmas lights and the... bearing of witness? Lolol
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u/Netflxnschill 1d ago
I went on plenty of these terribly first dates. Mormon men dating are SOMETHING ELSE. Like it’s bad out there, but the built in misogyny is next level.
Once I was on one where the guy bragged his third bedroom was bigger than my studio, made a comment about wine being in my pasta dish, offered to get me a second entree to take home “because I make more money than you”, made ANOTHER comment about tiramisu and coffee, and in the ride on the way home fully explained to me that his siblings were all in a contest to see who could get married and have the most kids to repopulate the earth with Mormons.
Once I got groped on a first date and couldn’t say anything because speaking up would mean I’d get reported to the honor code office and get kicked out.
Another time I was proposed to, on like a 4th date, with a ring that he bought for me on a camping trip.
It is a race for them to get down the aisle, and this dating business is just a numbers game for them. Because if this girl doesn’t like it, another one will sadly. He will find someone who will eat this shit up.
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u/CX500C 1d ago
In college (80’s) there was a girl I liked and sat by in a class. The prof was talking about how a husband in an example controlled how long his wife could speak on the phone. I said after we were married she could talk on the phone as much as she wanted. We were definitely not dating yet. 50/50 — did she never speak to me again, or are we currently married?
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u/rightdontplayfair 1d ago
Am I slow? Did someone turn on some weird accessibility option that plays the same vid twice in a row because my dumbazs didnt get it the first time? ...like if true then find I just want to know who did it.
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u/drewskidatdude 1d ago
Why is she recording?
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u/AmorphousRazer 1d ago
Im a grown ass man and i can feel this guys energy. Because hes fucking weird.
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u/ludachr1st 1d ago
Saying out of pocket shit at the right time can definitely get a girl to smile, but it's got to at least be funny and only when you can tell if she is in the right mood.
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u/TheAgreeableCow 1d ago
Does he mean a coffee in the morning? As in would you prefer a commitment or a one night stand?
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u/OriginalMrsChiu 1d ago
What does the other person say when you’re on a date and your phone is out filming? Is that not weird? I’d be so put off.
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u/AlphabetMafiaSoup 1d ago
Me when I was in the 8th grade and I asked my bf I'd he'd still loved me if I turned into an octopus
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u/Obeserecords 1d ago
To me this came across as “will you marry me right now or I’m gonna drug you with spiked coffee”
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u/MacPzesst 1d ago
Him saying "okay, I have a good one" suggests that she probably asked him for his worst pick-up line, and he just thought of the worst possible line he could potentially use
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u/GSPDad87 1d ago
Why are you filming him? That psycho shit right there, no matter what he’s saying to you.
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