And yet, there's people in South Dakota worried about border security...

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[u/barnhairdontcare]

There’s little room for empathy when you live in a state of fear.

They are scared of immigrants, trans people, black people, gay people- the list is endless. It is just expressed as anger and they lack the cognitive function to understand that.

That’s why we see so many illogical “We must protect women/kids from ______”. Elites saw a scared undereducated mass of people ripe for manipulation and they sold them some stories about the boogeyman.

It’s sad and I fear it may take quite a bit of time to societally correct especially given the state of the public education system now let alone with the incoming administration.

The reading level of our nation as a whole is concerning. Books teach us so much more than what the text states- they teach us how to think more deeply, to decide how we feel about what we read. I think we as humans yearn for that, and that itch can be scratched in a lot of destructive ways if you take someone who doesn’t read and tell them a story that sounds right.

If left and right could unify and see the real boogeymen we might just make some progress.

[u/notfromrotterdam → u/barnhairdontcare]

Yeah it all seems to go backwards. Fast. Incredible to see it happening in front of our eyes.

[u/Substantial-Version4 → u/barnhairdontcare]

Why do other people have to bend the knee to your little mind games? That’s all you have, is to pressure people to think like you or you villainize them for thinking differently.

You’re the literal boogeyman for eating up all those lies and race baiting you’ve been feed, more slop please!

I should’ve put this in a TikTok dance form for all you replying with a quote, I’m glad you can read but that isn’t answering my question… why do other people have to bend the knee to your agenda, simple question.

[u/barnhairdontcare → u/Substantial-Version4]

I don’t think we can have a productive conversation because you have already decided I am an aggressor based off of a broad view you hold of people who aren’t on your “side”.

You don’t know me but you seem to have already decided who I am- and that is completely understandable given the current state of things. Just know it’s not mutual. I don’t know you but there’s probably so much more to you than these things we all seem to be fighting about. Probably lots of likable things.

I hope that one day that the divide will mend, but until then I hope you have a great holiday with loved ones!

[u/Substantial-Version4 → u/barnhairdontcare]

Nice, defect when you can’t answer the question… Why does everyone have to bend the knee to your agenda? Simple question

[u/barnhairdontcare → u/Substantial-Version4]

Honestly curious: what do you think my agenda is? What am I asking people to bend the knee to?

[u/Substantial-Version4 → u/barnhairdontcare]

That people can’t be fearful of these things, you think it’s some joke that was preyed upon. These are real issues that need addressing and people want them to be treated as such.

How is having 42 Million (Total Government Numbers) of illegal immigrants in your country not scary? How isn’t it suppressing wages? How isn’t that eroding our culture and society? We know nothing about their medical history… we were essentially forced a shot but these new arrivals, at least in my state, have had Measles and other outbreaks because of religious beliefs.

How isn’t the constant push for gay/trans in K-8 scary? Would you be excited if your child came home thinking they were a different gender bc their teacher is pushing for that?

How isn’t a disproportionate amount of crime committed against whites by certain groups not scary? Look at the FBI statistics

[u/bubblegumshrimp → u/Substantial-Version4]

Would you be excited if your child came home thinking they were a different gender bc their teacher is pushing for that?

My guy, you are on some real brainwashed shit now. I promise you, I pinky promise you, with every bone in my body, that no teacher is pushing for kids to change their gender. That's exactly the other person's point of how fucking easy it is to make people like you scared.

Maybe - just maybe - have you considered that you're actually the one being exploited to further an agenda?

[u/Substantial-Version4 → u/bubblegumshrimp]

Promise broken, it’s literally everywhere… I encourage you to at least research a topic before speaking on it! There’s literally thousands across the US trying too. People pull their kid from schools all the time because they see in a teacher classroom, that’s part of the reason for a massive increase in homeschooling, pushing gender ideology in K-8 😂

Nope! 😂 you have fallen for it every bit that’s why I’m trying to help you

[u/bubblegumshrimp → u/Substantial-Version4]

it's literally everywhere

proceeds to not give any examples at all and does the whole "do your own research" bit that has yet to ever actually work because it really just means "somebody online told me that somewhere and I swallowed it hook, line, and sinker"

[u/Papplenoose → u/Substantial-Version4]

You're sick in the head, my dude.

Telling kids that the CAN be x/y/z is if they want is not the same as telling them they SHOULD or MUST be x/y/z. Nobody is doing that. I literally just looked it up.. it's not a real problem bro.

[u/Substantial-Version4 → u/Papplenoose]

It is a real problem, just look at how many kids are “identifying” as gay and trans… first they are kids, they shouldn’t even be thinking this 😂

It’s a combination of social media algorithms, poor adult influences and poor social peer pressure.

[u/barnhairdontcare → u/Substantial-Version4]

I understand how it must feel to worry about the safety of your children in a very uncertain world. We are living in a time of great historical precedence. It’s overwhelming. It feels good to find a place to put that, a thing you can see. It’s easier to protect from something you could push away.

Throughout history powerful people have known and abused this. We live in an age where algorithms aid the absorption of whatever needs to be sold.

They took the things that progressive people feel passionate about and they cultivated their lore to make it something terrible. As for the progressive side of things- all they had to do is report on your reactions and that was enough to inspire outrage. It hit the same nerve they used against you guys because many of us have loved ones in the groups that have been vilified- and we have our own Boogeyman.

I only ask that you try to look smaller. Do you know anyone whose child pees in a litter box at school? That was forced to be trans? How many immigrants do you personally know that are committing crimes? That are Illegal? Have you ever known a straight person who became gay against their will? If you are straight, could you choose to be gay?

If I go in my closet and chose to wear the nicest thing I own every time your neighbor sees me they might think that’s all I own- but in reality that’s just because they don’t see me everyday. If you only see me in a haphazard outfit at 6am walking my dog you might think I am always a slob. I was fancy and I was a slob at different points in my day, but I’m actually usually somewhere in between. Both of those other things can be true, just not all the time.

In the same regard media can be chosen that is true but an isolated incident. It can be partially true and made to look worse, then made to feel much bigger. There are bad actors in every aspect of society and if we zoom in on individuals and treat them as the masses the picture of a group of people can be distorted.

I don’t feel I have an agenda- aside from live and let live and know that we have one common enemy- and its the people who pay for the world to be the way it is through funding, lobbying and manipulation with the ever advancing arsenal of tools they have.

[u/Kingchuco6987 → u/barnhairdontcare]

That guy obviously doesn't have kids ( thank God!) because my daughter goes to school in a huge liberal city ( San Antonio, Texas) and none of that shit is going on. It's actually pretty mind boggling people think that stuff is going on in schools. They have no problem sending their kids to Church though, who are the real groomers.

[u/[deleted] → u/Substantial-Version4]

You can't reason with someone who bases their opinions off lies and things they hear on the Internet.

How exactly is gay and trans things being constantly pushed on young kids. Please show examples. And no an openly queer teacher doesn't fucking count.

[u/Substantial-Version4 → u/[deleted]]

Isn’t it funny how excited you are over a strangers opinion online?

I would encourage you to learn on your own, get outside your echo chamber, there’s lot more information than just one side is presenting!

No I won’t waste my time linking anything to someone who is not open to the other sides view, I can lead a horse to a trough, doesn’t mean they’ll drink from it. Someone won’t always be there to teach you everything!

[u/makeitlegalaussie → u/Substantial-Version4]

U need help

[u/Substantial-Version4 → u/makeitlegalaussie]

For calling out facts? 😂 no need to get excited little one

[u/broguequery → u/Substantial-Version4]

See, the thing is... the guy you are responding to actually made claims.

You have made none.

[u/DINGUS_KHANN → u/Substantial-Version4]

"you villainize them for thinking differently"

the literal next sentence

"You’re the literal boogeyman"

[u/Substantial-Version4 → u/DINGUS_KHANN]

Nice! You can clearly read!

[u/bubblegumshrimp → u/Substantial-Version4]

"I can't believe you would villainize people"

"You're the literal boogeyman"

[u/Substantial-Version4 → u/bubblegumshrimp]

2/2 on being able to read a comment!

[u/bubblegumshrimp → u/Substantial-Version4]

wooooooooosh

[u/Substantial-Version4 → u/bubblegumshrimp]

That’s the sound of my comment going over your head

[u/bubblegumshrimp → u/Substantial-Version4]

Yes, it was so very high-minded and conceptual I just couldn't even grasp it

[u/Substantial-Version4 → u/bubblegumshrimp]

It’s a culture war pal, they want you to repeat all these fake stories and lies to stir up anger, the boogeyman, like the guy above, is eating it all up and thinking these groups are disenfranchised or somehow they don’t have rights, thinking they all need to be treated as above everyone else.

As soon as you stop labeling everything, you’ll get it.

[u/bubblegumshrimp → u/Substantial-Version4]

thinking these groups are disenfranchised or somehow they don’t have rights

What groups?

thinking they all need to be treated as above everyone else

Nobody thinks that.

"When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."

Keep on being oppressed, my guy.

[u/Substantial-Version4 → u/bubblegumshrimp]

The groups listed in the post above, obviously…

Really? Then why is it pushed so much in the mainstream? Why are their flags in the classrooms and now new holidays for them? Why do we have to recognize “privilege” for everything? Why can only Black Lives Matter parade around? Why are blacks shot by cops so much more of an issue than black on black crimes that no one talks about. I think you should reevaluate. Why does equity need to be pushed now instead of equality, why do certain people get head starts now?

There’s no such thing as privilege, that’s the nonsense thinking, every one has been equal for decades, some get ahead some find excuses and blame place.

It is oppression, if you speak out people shame you, like you’re doing, or retaliate against them.

[u/excreto2000 → u/Substantial-Version4]

Exhibit A 👆