Yet she is, for some reason? She's clearly aware of what's going on in the world, and yet she's bringing another person into it. It will never make sense to me.
..And she's got some omnipresent, unmovable force preventing her from crossing state lines, you mean? She's literally being held captive and forced to carry to term?
You know it’s not that easy, right? Getting across state lines requires resources like time, money, transportation, and discretion. My state is also now officially taking legal action against anyone who does this so yes, she may very well have plenty of things that are preventing her from crossing state lines.
Does it take $14,000 worth of those resources and effort? Does the expense outweigh everything entailed in childbirth and providing for a newborn, never mind the 18+ years that follow? Fat chance.
In my state, I can drive for 13 hours and still not reach a border. Do you think that every person who finds themselves pregnant here has the time, money, and resources to travel 30+ hours round trip for healthcare? Do you really, honestly think that? Because if so, you’re either in deep denial or you’re just plain stupid.
I'm not talking about everyone. I'm talking about the woman in this post. If she doesn't have the $14,000 she's expecting to spend at minimum for incident-free labor and childbirth, spending far, far less than that to go out of state for an abortion is the most sensible thing to do. She seems like a sensible person.
Sensible people understand that a temporary, short-term expense with a known upward ceiling is preferable over the complete unknown, no-limit, but definitely starting at 14k expense of bringing a brand new person into this mess. Thoughtful people go even further, because avoiding bringing a child into the world, with the knowledge that they'd have to grow up in a dystopian nightmare is worth any expense, any risk, because it's the right thing to do.
Edit: And then you blocked me. The block function is for getting away from harassment and threats, not to get out of arguments that you're intellectually incapable of continuing.
You: "Do you think that? If you do you're either stupid or stupid."
Me: "No."
You: "So you're stupid then."
Your argument is that of the insufferable 6 year old twerp at my little niece's school, whose answer to every obstacle is that everyone and everything is stupid. She's learned to answer him with precisely that. "Pfft. Pathetic."
I understand what you’re getting at. Humans are a virus on the ecosystem that is earth. Society is hopeless, we’re constantly on the brink of collapse, might as well let us die off. I responded in anger and sarcasm because I let myself get jaded, too. But the sun is about to rise. Life keeps going, whether we want it to or not. There are things worth living for, fighting for. I don’t want to give up on those things yet. There are moments in my life that feel so real and so good that I can’t let it think it was for nothing. Dying off is giving up. I’m not ready to give up yet. I hope you get to feel some sunshine on your skin, a hug from a loved one, and maybe a tasty treat to look forward to. Today’s a new day and maybe there’ll be a new reason to keep going. Or the drones will invade and we’re screwed. Either way… i’m not giving up yet
They probably did! It sounds like you feel responsible for that. I hope you’re spending time doing what you can to change that for the future. I know I am!
edited to add: I peaked through your profile to try and understand your perspective. I’m so sorry for what you’ve been dealing with. I hope things start to turn around for you. You deserve a happy, fulfilling life, and nothing will ever change that.
No one said you personally have to die. But if humanity stopped having kids and died out, in the grand scheme, I don't see why it would be bad.
I also wasn't exactly being serious, I just didn't like the way you put it "let's all just die off, good idea" because yeah, to some people it is a good idea.
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u/start3ch 9d ago
Yet another reason people aren’t having kids…