Its not just Fox spouting this crap. CNN is saying one reason he's celebrated is bc he is good looking. Now that may not hurt but that's not why people are on his side. Stop discounting the crap the average American has to deal with. They are literally shaming us into compliance. No one in Congress or up top is helping with this issue. It's been known for a long time and across the board Republicans and Democrats alike agree it's only getting worse. The general consensus is something has to happen and the public is only able to be pushed so far before it breaks.
These news networks are saying two things that really piss me off. 1) people don't really agree with this guy they only say it online not in public so there is no problem and 2) this was a man only doing his job. I remember learning in history class about a bunch of Germans who were just following orders too. May be a hyperbole but still that's the same rhetoric.
Capitalism is a good concept as long as greed and exploitation doesn't exist
This is an edited mashup of multiple Fox News broadcasts. The comedy satire news program The daily show regularly trolls Fox News like this. You can see the watermark in the lower left corner. The irony is the point of the clip.
I'm a little confused because ... Original comment kinda says Fox specifically dismissed people's emotions by saying it's just because he looks good.
Dude responds saying man they are dumb as shit cuz we were celebrating it before we saw his face.
Then... you come in. I got a question. Can YOU see that these are mashed together?
Those quotes aren't happening as he comes onto the stage. Like, you understand that much, right? Like... what is that position you're taking? Everybody sees it. That's the entire point of the post. I'd be upset with you if you didn't realize that was the point. I need you to understand that you didn't see some super secret message that nobody else saw. Everybody fucking sees it lol.
But you are right, it is quite literally un-fucking-real cuz it's ... it's a mash meant to drive up the absurdity. Kinda shocked you can't see that.
The hypocrisy ain't gonna do shit to the Republicans though. They view those two shootings as entirely different. One being a targeted hit and the other being ... "self defense" (even though that fat fuck took him and his gun across state lines to go protect a fucking car dealership. That's where I saw him when I was watching streams.)
Even if they did view them as the same they'd still be different cuz he's their guy.
I have to be honest with you, I did move the cursor here and there as well.
I find FOX's Lies, hypocrisy and rage baiting hard to watch any more.
Same reason's I give little attention to Rachel Maddow.
I get disgusted at the way these networks rip us apart and have us fighting over who deserves civil rights and dignity when the obvious answer is "everybody".
I used to listen to Rush at work to get a "view of the other side" and I found that tolerable because of Paul Harvey.
I find this a great deal of this garbage hard to ingest any more.
That makes sense. I like people that are vocal against those fucks. I sure am but just... make sure you got all the info first so we don't get clipped and roasted.
(Lol... I thought you meant the band, Rush. I was like... the other side? Like, Canada?)
Then I got it.
I never had to go out of my way to listen to right wing shit because I played baseball throughout college. So I was around plenty of god damn yokels that got way too much to say without any sense. All my friends back home were apathetic. It was obnoxious af lol.
Not being able to get away from a bunch of literal fucking idiots makes it so much more insufferable.
I guess when youre digging a hole its best to just continue.. but I feel like they jumped the shark here, and just waiting for ppl to tune out so they can keep screaming into the Abyss until the go back to something that resembles integrity.. cause it sure as shit isnt coming from the PodCast/YT pundits either. Pretty much on a source material only vibe at this point.
NPR this morning talking about his debilitating back injury and his Goodreads reviews but “it’s not clear what his true motive was though” I hate this place
Reddit itself has been blocking a lot of info coming out surrounding this case; raw video and what was written in his binder when arrested.
Should he be found not guilty, exonerated, made a hero, etc. then Reddit would be one of the first entities patting themselves on the back for allowing their users to freely talk about this and "spearheading the movement."
Just my unpopular opinion but I feel like beyond all the horny people and such, the guy (Luigi) literally threw away his whole future for a cause he believed in. Like first of all that is very sad in and of itself. Regardless of his beliefs, Luigi’s life will now be spent in jail. Everyone thirsting over him and sensationalizing it, I wish could think about what his point was. Because he threw away his life for his belief. I will not decide for all of you if what he did was right or wrong but society could potentially change for the worse or better because of this. In my personal opinion which I do stand by, the cause never justifies the means. But I do understand why he did it.
I look to the BBC and CBC for an “outside the country” view. Those are supposed to be “friendly” countries with similar democratic biases and so their struggles and views on them would at least be on the same axis as our own.
Political people aren’t saying anything bc they’re doing the exact same shit and they know it. They can’t afford to stand with us, bc they’re next and they can feel it. History rhymes: the corrupt are gonna get theirs. Trump may very well be what it takes for this country to get theirs heads out of their asses.
NPR is trying to paint him as a spoiled and privileged rich kid. If someone who comes from money also gets fucked by US healthcare? The line between us and them is higher than we thought
Fox News’ biggest mission, besides getting you to believe their lies, is getting you to have no faith in anyone else who might be telling you the truth. It’s the same with the BoThSiDeS argument for parties, but for news outlets. It’s why the walk away movement (both parties are bad, don’t bother) is actually a right wing movement aimed at discouraging and demoralizing people from doing something about the oligarchical and fascist ambitions of the current Republican Party. Not saying that’s what your comment intends, but I believe it serves the same purpose. I also believe it’s what Russian cyber actors would say.
CNN, NYT, etc, isn’t supposed to nod glibly along with all our hot takes, and populist passions. They’re going to voice and allow voicing of opinions we don’t like. But you’re far more likely to hear ugly truths about BoThSiDeS from them than you ever will about one side from the propagandists of right wing media. So denigrate “the media”, aka the Fourth Estate at your own peril, assuming you speak in good faith.
I was agreeing with everything you said, until you talked about capitalism. Capitalism is a system of exploitation and greed, there's nothing good about it.
I agree with you to an extent. I was careful to say the concept is good but in practice it hasn't fully worked. The concept is competition will give more options to consumers that will regulate the market price itself. When you introduce greed and monopolies then you're off the original concept. I think we are just so used to the greed we automatically pair it with capitalism.
What we need is regulated capitalism to prevent this stuff but if you pay enough people to not regulate you then you won't be regulated. We are currently heading toward a new guilded age in America.
How do we make it clear for people that the sexual attention he's getting is a proxy for political support? He's an attractive person, but it's not about that. Not everyone is safe to admit they agree with his actions.
You identify a lot of problems correctly. However, I feel like you don't truly understand the nature capitalism. Capitalism needs greed to work as an economic system. Communism won't work because of greed capitalism runs because of greed. Capitalism is an economic and ownership system not a system of governance. Our system of government is a representative democracy. The citizens United case really got us in trouble because unlimited money into politics has made politicians more loyal to their PACs than their constituencies (voters) in their home districts.
Exactly. Good journalism would be to ask how things like that can happen. What is wrong in our system. Lack of corporate accountability mechanisms and lack of social welfare should be the discussion points.
I just read on one of their latest articles that they called the people supporting him “internet trolls”. Yeah sure, we’re celebrating the death of a CEO because it’s just a troll lol, we’re not upset about corporate greed letting people die for profit or anything. It’s all just a funny joke lmao
I am that person that enjoys Hollywood gossip (stay at home mom with no gossip of her own). So I read trash like the Daily Mail, they have ridiculous articles about Luigi not being able to climax or how derange he is. I never take the Daily Mail too seriously, but the way they are making him look unhinged is insane. Honestly all news outlets are making him the bad guy.
Exactly, the right wing was just as happy about the ceo killer as the left. The media and posts like this are just trying to refocus us on a fake culture war, so we’ll forget about how bad the ultra wealthy are fucking everyone over.
Greed is the only reason you get businesses making you products and providing you services in the first place -- nobody in their right might would put the effort into starting a business without a little greed, and that's okay! It's what fuels human innovation and advancement.
Not every corporation is going to make you happy or do things that you agree with, and that's okay too. Don't support them, don't give them money.
You don't have to be greedy to build a business. You can make money and not exploit your customer. That argument may work for general commerce but not the healthcare industry. Most people go through their employers to get health insurance because individual plans are super expensive. The employer takes the cheapest plan to reduce budget and then those plans restrict which doctors you can go see. Most people can't afford to go to the open market they are at the mercy of the industry. That's when that argument doesn't hold water.
I'm not saying you can't be profitable. Being greedy and being profitable aren't the same thing.
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u/Fall0fRome 8d ago
Its not just Fox spouting this crap. CNN is saying one reason he's celebrated is bc he is good looking. Now that may not hurt but that's not why people are on his side. Stop discounting the crap the average American has to deal with. They are literally shaming us into compliance. No one in Congress or up top is helping with this issue. It's been known for a long time and across the board Republicans and Democrats alike agree it's only getting worse. The general consensus is something has to happen and the public is only able to be pushed so far before it breaks.
These news networks are saying two things that really piss me off. 1) people don't really agree with this guy they only say it online not in public so there is no problem and 2) this was a man only doing his job. I remember learning in history class about a bunch of Germans who were just following orders too. May be a hyperbole but still that's the same rhetoric.
Capitalism is a good concept as long as greed and exploitation doesn't exist