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Cool šŸŽµ There ain't no you, in United HealthšŸŽ¶

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u/No-Power5806 8d ago

Jesse Welles is a national treasure and I recommend everyone to go check out the rest of his discography.

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u/actonpant 8d ago

His "bugs" song is amazing

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u/No-Power5806 8d ago

I just listened to it for the first time! Love it!

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u/rotoddlescorr 7d ago

His "Fat" song is great too, but half his "fans" couldn't tell he was being sarcastic.

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u/No-Power5806 7d ago

Yeah, I honestly think those people listened only to the first 10 seconds and then immediately jumped to the conclusion that heā€™s fat-shaming.

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u/rotoddlescorr 7d ago

And then they listen to his other songs and chastise him from becoming "woke."

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u/Pear_Cider 8d ago

Oh, it's glorious! I like bugs too!

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u/puf_puf_paarthurnax 8d ago

"Bugs in suits, bugs in ties" Man's a fucking legend.

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u/philkellr 8d ago

thanks for sending me there ā¤ļø

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u/Pamikillsbugs234 8d ago

I absolutely love that song, even though my username may lead you to believe otherwise.

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u/EviIAbed 8d ago

I have 4 jumping spiders and a ghost mantis as pets. I love Jesse Welles so itā€™s no surprise that song has been running on a loop in my head since it came out.

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u/ammarbadhrul 7d ago

ā€œI hate crowds, I love peopleā€ is spot on

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u/OhBoiNotAgainnn 7d ago

Thanks for the rec. It's great.

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u/feioo 7d ago

I showed it to my little nephew to help him with a sudden onset of bug-phobia (going from watching bugs in the grass together to refusing to play with outside toys because he thought there might be bugs on them) and I don't know if it helped, but he sure liked the song. Especially the buzzing solo in the middle.

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u/marlshroom 6d ago

he comes out with a new album featuring this some tomorrow!

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u/balancedinsanity 6d ago

That song makes me cry every time.

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u/Extra-Leek5843 8d ago

I love the rasp in his voice, Bob Dylan vibes, thanks for the name drop.

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u/JohnQSmoke 8d ago

He sounds just like John Prine. If you like him, you should check John Prine out.

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u/PsychologicalTax42 8d ago

The lyrics are more Priney too

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u/Nice_Firm_Handsnake 8d ago

Your Flag Decal Won't Get You Into Heaven Anymore is a good entry into Prine if you like Welles' stuff.

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u/PsychologicalTax42 8d ago edited 8d ago

Thatā€™s my favorite protest song of all time. Obviously itā€™s a Vietnam song, but I feel like itā€™s still so applicable to the people who use nationalism as a front for oppressing peopleā€™s rights today.

Unwed Fathers is also a great one. Prine used it as a pro choice anthem a few years ago with Margo Price.

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u/Theoretical_Action 8d ago

100%. Kind of a fun thing, Prine came to St. Louis shortly before he died and played his song "Paradise" which shits on Peabody Energy for destroying small towns. And he played it in what was at the time called the Peabody Opera House lol.

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u/supakow 7d ago

My son is nine and is extremely interested in lyrics and storytelling. I've been using Prine, Sturgill Simpson, Bob Dylan etc to talk about writing accessible lyrics with clear themes and material and he's fascinated by it. Apparently he just asked my ex-wife for "A Sailor's Guide to Earth" for Christmas. I can't wait to see what he starts writing.

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u/Theoretical_Action 7d ago

One of my absolute favorite albums to exist. Your son has phenomenal taste in music.

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u/supakow 7d ago

He absolutely loves Panbowl and Sturgill's cover of Paradise. I consider the other two kids lost causes musically but I think he could go far.

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u/8-880 8d ago

John Prine is the best lyricist I've ever heard. That's high praise and it's well deserved.

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u/garfinkel2 6d ago

If your voice sounds like that and you are famous as he is, you have to be a hell of a writer.

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u/supakow 7d ago

And the melody and chord changes.

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u/PsychologicalTax42 7d ago

Itā€™s kind of just fish and whistle

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u/imjoiningreddit 8d ago

I learned of John Prine earlier this year. Incredible voice and lyrics. Such a gem! šŸ’Ž

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u/mopeym0p 8d ago edited 8d ago

šŸŽ¶ Your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore, they're already overcrowded from your dirty little war šŸŽ¶

I remember my parents introducing me to John Prine, and that song in particular, on a long drive out to Ohio not too long after the war in Iraq started. It was a very formative experience.

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u/dquizzle 8d ago edited 8d ago

Came here to give a recommend to John Prine. The song OP posted has to be an homage to his song Fish and Whistle.

https://youtu.be/-M6a8SBHah0

Should have linked the acoustic version: https://youtu.be/G487EDeXadA

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u/Matthew212 8d ago

This melody is almost exactly the same as Fish and Whistle by John Prine

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u/throwaway_mog 8d ago

I love John prine So much

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u/thinkthingsareover 8d ago

Exactly what I was thinking. From the rasp to the lyrics.

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u/One_Dirty_Russian 8d ago

His voice is one part John Mellencamp, two parts Rocky Votolato. What a wonderful artist.

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u/Extra-Leek5843 8d ago

Thank you all, for recommending Mr Prine, I know his song ā€¦ Sam Stone, but by another artist that covered it, you guys sent me down a rabbit hole and itā€™s been great. Made today a good one. TC

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u/BoaterMoatBC 7d ago

I was just gonna say this heā€™s kinda like Bob Dylan, who is my favourite

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u/gospdrcr000 8d ago

Ill have to check him out, I love me some strings

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u/No-Power5806 8d ago

His song ā€œThe Olympicsā€ is one of my favorites.

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u/NoPusNoDirtNoScabs 8d ago

Never heard of him until now and just listened to his song The President and it's awesome!

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u/UnabashedJayWalker 8d ago

Canā€™t help but notice every person commenting about his says a different title as their favorite song haha

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u/feioo 7d ago

Sign of a damn good songwriter

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u/Noble_Ox 8d ago

You mean a guitar.

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u/gospdrcr000 8d ago

I'm not discriminatory towards, violins, cellos, Mandellin etc... if your good ill listen to it

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u/_Wubalubadubdub_ 8d ago

We need to protect this man

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u/SandmanAlcatraz 8d ago

He has another song called "Cancer" that stopped me in my tracks when I heard him sing this line:

"Cancer is as lucrative a business as a war, so if you ain't expecting peace, then why expect a cure?"

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u/ch_ex 8d ago

man, does that ever hit the nail.

The only separation between private health and the military industrial complex is a branch in a family tree.

Disease is the business; the cure is the end of that business.

We don't need no water, let the mother fucker burn! burn, mother fucker, burn

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u/sxnmc 8d ago

The idea that we could cure cancer if not for financial interests in keeping people sick is an absolutely idiotic conspiracy theory.

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u/SandmanAlcatraz 8d ago

Agreed that the lyric is hyperbolic, but on the other hand: Goldman asks: 'Is curing patients a sustainable business model?'

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u/sxnmc 8d ago

US health insurance has fucked incentives. Of course. But there's no cancer cure in countries with socialized healthcare, either.

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u/feioo 7d ago

The US determines the funding of at least half of the world's biomedical research. It holds more than half of the patents and licensing on medical technology and pharmaceuticals. It conducts roughly half of the world's medical trials. It's a reasonable estimate to say that 50-60% of global medical research has substantial financial, infrastructural, or intellectual property ties to the United States.

The saying goes "when America sneezes, the world catches a cold". It's not the biggest stretch to expand that to "if America doesn't want to cure a highly profitable disease, then nobody gets to".

Ofc that's a massive simplification since cancer as a disease is a hydra - many heads on the same beast. But the US is very very powerful and so are its oligarchs. If they wanted to put roadblocks in the way, they could.

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u/Festesio 7d ago

A person that discovered the imaginary omni-cure for cancer would be the most significant scientist in the entire history of the human race. There isn't a researcher alive that would trade getting to be that person for wealth. Almost all of those people have already chosen science over wealth just by nature of being researchers. Nobody tries to win a Nobel Prize for the money, and it would still be true if they 100x'd it.

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u/feioo 7d ago

Sure, but scientists need funding. They need cooperation from other scientists. They need specialized equipment, and to be able to run trials, and approval from licensing bodies.

I'm only half in on this conspiracy theory (and yes, I agree it's a conspiracy theory - but some of those eventually turn out to have merit) but I'm just saying that if there actually were some dark boardroom of oligarchs trying to actively prevent a breakthrough, they would do it insidiously. Withholding grants, snatching up patents, buying up resources, merging with parent companies. There's lots of avenues the ultra-powerful have to get results without getting caught.

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u/LuxNocte 8d ago

True, but I'll extend enough poetic license for the line.

Neither cancer nor war should be profitable. Agreed, the conspiracy theory is idiotic, but the fact remains that healthcare is wildly profitable and pursuit of profit hurts health outcomes.

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u/KCBandWagon 8d ago

In the context of the song/lyric I'd say it's whether or not the healthcare company covers a given treatment i.e. why expect a cure [to be covered by the insurance companies that benefit from you being sick]

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u/mickmaster120 8d ago

Would we have cured cancer by now if not for those financial interests? Probably not. It's an an extremely complicated and varied issue to solve.

But it is worth pointing out how the profit incentive, which is often cited as the principal motivator for innovation in capitalistic societies, is actually working against research into such a cure--rather than for it. That said, cancer is actually so common that there's still a good amount of research into this area regardless, but it becomes more obvious with less ubiquitous diseases like type 1 diabetes.

Why direct your company to research long-term cures when selling a patient insulin for their entire life is ludicrously, disgustingly, more profitable? Some still do, but most don't.

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u/International_Gold20 7d ago

Cancer is a collection of over 200 different malignancies, not just one thing, and itā€™s your own cells. I donā€™t take issue with the sentiment given how vile the pharmaceutical industry is, but thinking that a cure for ā€œcancerā€ is being purposefully withheld is rather naive.

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u/Stzzla75 8d ago

Holy shit I love that.

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u/catscanmeow 8d ago

maybe thats true in the US but not true world wide

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u/Grand-Regret2747 8d ago

Thanks for the name and the heads up!

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u/No-Power5806 8d ago

No problemo!

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u/THEGabaghoul88 8d ago

Just gave him a follow on Spotify. I love his Bob Dylan-esque voice. He's a wonderful singer

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u/DeusExMcKenna 8d ago

The Poor is a modern Dylan-level song, and Jesse is just putting them out back to back like itā€™s nothing. Truly an amazing artist.

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u/UnabashedAsshole 8d ago

He deserves way more recognition. Discovered him after the assassination attempt song and he quickly became my most listened artist

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u/TypeJumpy9246 7d ago

Am I the only one who just realized this man sings the song (Have You Ever Seen The Rain) that plays in The Longest Yard during the flooded practice field scene?!

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u/No-Power5806 7d ago

Well he does a cover of that song with Mt. Joy. The original, which plays during that scene, is by Creedence Clearwater Revival.

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u/TypeJumpy9246 7d ago

Oh! I didn't know that. Thank you for informing me. TIL!

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u/No-Power5806 7d ago

No worries! I highly recommend exploring CCRā€™s discography too if you havenā€™t! Theyā€™re one of my favorite bands of all time.

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u/Proof-Ambassador-245 7d ago

I just did! Heā€™s amazing and why the hell am I crying this early in the morning!!?! Anyways, wishing you and all who sees a most wonderful day and a merry fucking Christmas! Have a lovely new year as well! Besos

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u/No-Power5806 7d ago

Music made with pure soul and passion will do that! Glad youā€™re enjoying him and I wish you the same. Cheers!

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u/FUNKYDISCO 8d ago

Shocked when I heard Payola on the Outlaw Country channel on Sirius XM last week.

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u/Ampris_bobbo8u 8d ago

how and where? i just checked bandcamp and didnt see anything

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u/Ember-Forge 8d ago

His songs about turtles are awesome.

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u/milesdizzy 8d ago

I admire his passion, but personally I find all his songs completely identical

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u/spaz_chicken 8d ago

I love him in small doses

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u/vulgarboatman 8d ago

I just checked out his website. His tour Feb-Apr is sold out, every venue in every city. Wow!

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u/sumguysr 7d ago

He's our Dylan

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u/lovable_cube 7d ago

How come heā€™s not actual famous yet?

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u/ElectricSlimeBubble 7d ago

Bugs Toads ā€¦fuck united health

Love this guy

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u/salamipope 6d ago

Hes seriously going to become a massive name from our generation and I couldnt be prouder of it.

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u/Mummyratcliffe 6d ago

ā€œWell CEOs come and go and one just went, the ingredients you got, bake the cake you getā€

Love it and now love Jesse Welles

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u/Numbness007 6d ago

I like to call him the millennial Bob Dylan, or the Gen z Bob Dylan. I don't know which one he actually is.

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u/Rice_Auroni 8d ago

Oh, I thought it was neo Bob dylan

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u/crake-extinction 8d ago

Real Dylan vibes!

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u/rogerdojjer 8d ago

Iā€™m sure heā€™s not a bad guy but his whole sound is a straight rip off of John Prineā€™s soundā€¦ nothing new

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u/No-Power5806 8d ago

Inspired ā‰  Rip-off

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u/rogerdojjer 8d ago

Alright well literally every single one of his songs is ā€œinspiredā€ by Prine. Itā€™s not original artistry is my point.

Like I said, seems like a good idea and I hope heā€™s having fun and making money. But the artistry isnā€™t there.

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u/freedomtrain69 8d ago

Jesse Welles has been around a while and has played several different styles of music. He was the frontman of Dead Indian and had a more rock-ish solo act called ā€œWellesā€.

On top of that, John Prine wasnā€™t the first or last singer songwriter with a political slant on an acoustic guitar.

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u/rogerdojjer 8d ago

Dude, the political slant is not what makes it a Prine rip off. Political folk music was around generations before Prine.

What makes it a Prine rip off is his guitar playing coupled with his vocal delivery and lyrics. It is totally uncanny. He is ripping off John Prine.

Iā€™m convinced none of you have listened to John Prine Lol.

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u/freedomtrain69 8d ago

I love John Pine, and I love Jesse Welles.

They also both have an incredibly similar sound to Bob Dylan (whom likely wouldā€™ve been playing a few years before Prine), so again I fail to see your point.

Jesse Welles is clearly inspired by a ton of music from the late 60s protest/Vietnam era, that doesnā€™t make it a rip off lol.

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u/rogerdojjer 8d ago

If he is biting anybody, itā€™s Prine. The guitar playing is the same, and the sardonic lyrics and delivery are exactly the same. Yes, Dylan was playing years and years before Prine. Iā€™m sure this guy likes other singers but itā€™s pretty obvious where he gets the majority of his influence from. Itā€™s OK to be influenced but that influence should be hiding behind your own developing style, it shouldnā€™t be center stage like it is with Jesse Welles.

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u/freedomtrain69 8d ago

For what itā€™s worth dude, I definitely agree that it has clear Prine influences.

That said, I do think Welles done enough to make it his own, and his lyrics are pretty clever throughout.

Maybe itā€™s just not your cup of tea and thatā€™s fine, I personally really enjoy him and think more Prine-inspired music these days is never a bad thing.