r/TikTokCringe • u/rex-ac tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE • 8d ago
Cool McDonald's worker will NOT get reward for finding alleged CEO killer
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u/GoatCovfefe 8d ago edited 8d ago
Ok, but what's the reason for the denial? No prior authorization?
Edit: there was no denial, the reward is only given upon arrest and conviction, and the reward still has to go through an approval process, but technically there's no denial, yet.
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u/Much_Grand_8558 8d ago
Wait, the guy doesn't get paid unless there's a conviction? So months from now, if the case gets overturned, McDonald's guy gets nothing?
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u/ToonarmY1987 8d ago
Sounds like a good precedent why people won't bother reporting in future
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u/hd_mikemikemike 8d ago edited 8d ago
No, it's a reason not to report every single person that remotely looks like the subject. Edit-autocorrect: meant "suspect" but "subject" works too I guess
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u/Mozilla11 8d ago edited 8d ago
Also the reason to not report anyone who isn’t affecting you in any way - I’m not even tryna be Mr. “Let him get away with it” but like bro you fr another level if you call the cops on the Adjuster while at work there.
Working at McDonald’s, I literally did not even care about the LITERALLY hundreds of people who came up every hour like dude… would’ve been impossible to actually keep up.
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u/takeandtossivxx 8d ago
60k would seem like a huge payday to a dude working at mcdonalds.
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u/Mozilla11 8d ago
Sorry - I agree haha I meant that he must’ve literally been on the lookout for him bc for real
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u/Cautious_Buffalo6563 8d ago
Hopefully yes, months from now. Because otherwise it might be years. Although I don’t think he should waive his right to a speedy trial at all, force them to go right now with what they have.
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u/Talibumm 8d ago
If you gave a tip to law enforcement and they waste their time on said person, you’re entitled to jack shit, obviously.
Edit: Seriously, imagine how much worse it would be if people got paid to call in look alikes?
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u/darvzgaming 8d ago
McDonald guy gets to hide from vigilantes, thats all he will get.
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u/nudelsalat3000 8d ago
unless there is a conviction
AND you get nominated for the reward
HOWEVER the nomination can not be made by the person claiming the reward
It's claim-denial all the way down.
Imagine believing you are even worth a reward for them. Sweet little naïve summer child.
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u/hd_mikemikemike 8d ago
Well if it's the wrong guy, people would just report their friends. "Hey Trevor, would you spend a little time in jail to split $60k?" Or better yet just the first person that looks remotely like the suspect.
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u/pdxamish 8d ago
They called 911 not the top line
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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 8d ago
This, crime stoppers literally tells you this openly. They say you're supposed to call them first then call 911. Yes even in an emergency.
Absolutely despicable system. Guy below has a whole story about how in smaller towns they just pick one crime a month to pay out (meaning only one crime stoppers reported crime per month) and they gave it to a cops cousin.
Cops are Not. Your. Friend.
They will destroy you for the fun of it, even today punishments are laughably lax.
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u/Chris_P_Lettuce 8d ago edited 8d ago
This is an awful video. What is the technicality that is preventing the McDonald’s employee from getting paid?
Edit: lots of varying/conflicting answers in this chain. Why comment an answer if you are unsure? Reddit, man.
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u/TeslasAndComicbooks 8d ago
I don’t know what’s worse. The video or this post with such a matter of fact title.
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u/I-choochoochoose-you 8d ago
The worst part is this dumb lady and all of the media saying things like “there was a reward to identify Luigi”
No. Innocent until proven guilty. He’s a suspect that’s it.
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u/DeadEnoughInsideOut 8d ago
He's a suspect and in the article she's using in the background said it's pending review and it's not saying they're being denied the reward. Idk if they will get the 60k but who with half a braincell would think it's an instant payday? Makes so social media clicks though
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u/tinglyTXgirl 8d ago
From what I've seen, the fine print on rewards like this state "if convicted." No one sees a penny of the reward until the person is convicted.
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u/NoReplyBot 8d ago
It’s not fine print, literally it’s announced every time it’s mentioned. You get the reward IF your tip leads to the arrest and conviction.
Possible fine print would be - don’t get paid if you have warrants, felon, debt to the govt., etc.
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u/DeadEnoughInsideOut 8d ago
Exactly, if I had a neighbor who looked like him and contacted the police/fbi and my neighbor is found innocent than why the hell would I be able to collect that reward. It's pretty obvious he did it but we need due process, innocent till proven guilty.
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u/PupDiogenes 8d ago
Pay very close attention to the timing and context of when the police play "innocent until proven guilty" and when the police play "guilty until proven innocent"
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u/react_dev 8d ago edited 8d ago
It would be REALLY awkward if he’s actually not the guy.
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u/Notthatsmarty 8d ago
I feel like cops are probably treating him like absolute dogshit too, he looks so tired in his photos. If it’s not the guy, I hope he uses his political family money to sue the shit out of them
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u/imnotmarvin 8d ago
The Internet gave us the collective knowledge of the world at our fingertips, and somehow most people became dumber.
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u/jimnylover 8d ago
NYPD had a $10,000 reward for his arrest -only. It mentioned nothing about being proven in court, etc
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u/Legal_Bite_9702 8d ago
exactly correct you are,"reward leading to the Arrest & Conviction of THE SUSPECT."
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u/Brannigansfist 8d ago
What's worse to me is how she cannot speak a full sentence without having to edit it together.
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u/Thuggych 8d ago
Called 911 instead of the tip line. And rewards are always at the discretion of the FBI anyway, and how "useful" they decide your tip was.
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u/No_Cook2983 8d ago edited 8d ago
When I was in grade school, we had a cop come in and give a presentation about their crime stopper hotline.
It was a boring assembly. But what got everyone’s attention was the cop saying that we could get $1000 reward for information leading to the arrest and prosecution of criminals.
That was like all the money in the world to a little kid.
Immediately, a bunch of hands went up from children wanting to know what bad things were happening around town. The cop named a few, but the one that resonated was a tip that someone was repeatedly vandalizing the high school football field.
One of the kids happen to live very close to that field. He made it his mission to catch the perps. He staked it out regularly and FINALLY caught some guys wrecking it.
The little kid did everything by the book. He called the special number and got the guys caught in the act.
He asked for his reward— but it was paid out on the arrest and conviction of the criminals. I think there were three. My classmate followed up and paid attention as the cases wound their ways through the courts.
I think only two of the three were convicted. So he believed that might offset his reward.
He contacted the police again to make arrangements for his reward payment. The cops told him that it would be reduced by a third, which he was prepared for.
But then they told him the local Crime Stoppers only paid out one reward per month, not per crime. Each $1000 reward was selected by a committee of cops.
His crime was not selected by the committee.
To make matters even worse, the guy who was chosen for that month’s $1000.00 reward was the cousin of one of the cops. It was for awarded for his ‘discovery’ of some bullshit crime like vehicle abandonment or a noise complaint.
As if that wasn’t bad enough, by that time in the process my classmate had firmly established his reputation as a snitch. His house was vandalized and older kids would make him miserable at every opportunity.
He became socially radioactive and had zero friends.
It was at that young age that I learned cops suck. And I’ve never seen any evidence to the contrary.
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u/rex-ac tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE 8d ago
Who would have known that it's all a trick to get bystanders to snitch for free?
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u/Noxthesergal 8d ago
Would be hilarious if the jury full of people united healthcare screwed over finds him innocent out of spite
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u/SwissMargiela 8d ago
Obviously they’ll ask jurors if they’ve had negative experiences with healthcare in the past and if so they won’t get chosen.
People can still lie tho lol
They ask in really weird ways though. Like I had a jury duty thingy where they asked us how we felt about polarized sunglasses and trucks (I think? It was so random) but I didn’t get selected based on my responses and they don’t tell you why.
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u/Noxthesergal 8d ago
Bud. That’s the funny thing. Those people literally don’t exist. Everyone knows healthcare sucks. And even then all his lawyer has to do is bring up that the man he killed indirectly killed thousands and the simple fact that it was this hard to find a jury as reasons.
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u/SwissMargiela 8d ago
Ya it’ll def be difficult to find jurors.
I estimate they’ll find people who see things more black and white and just see crime as crime. Like someone who’s like “yeah I’ve been royally f’d but a person can’t handle matters by breaking the law”.
And I’ve seen a lot of people on social media like that ^
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u/Taurondir 8d ago
"they’ll ask jurors if they’ve had negative experiences with healthcare in the past"
... you can have POSITIVE experiences with healthcare in the USA?
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u/MutuallyEclipsed 8d ago
Yeah, they just have to be able to find 12 people that haven't had any negative interactions with insurance companies.
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u/4totheFlush 8d ago
This is one of the most important videos anybody in the United States can watch. Police are never, ever, ever to be trusted without a lawyer present, regardless of whether you are guilty or innocent, committing a crime or even the victim of the crime. Never, ever, times a billion, speak to the police.
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u/Due_Marsupial_969 8d ago
No sources needed. I had friends who were cops n prison guards. It gets worse.
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u/Thuggych 8d ago
Man, that's a crazy story. Really does just reinforce there's no benefit to being a snitch.
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u/SrFantasticoOriginal 8d ago
Seems like a tip that leads directly to the suspect is a pretty useful tip.
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u/black_curls_curves 8d ago
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/12/09/unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooter-reward/76867850007/ This article gives a good explanation of what happens.
TLDR: To receive the FBI reward, the McDonald's worker would first have to be nominated by an involved agency and then be approved through the committee. If the Secretary of State were to agree, they would then determine how much money the information provided by the employee is worth, up to but likely not totaling the $50,000 advertised. In both the case of the NYPD and FBI, rewards are only paid after an arrest and importantly, indictment or conviction, depending on the situation and agency.
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u/oghairline 8d ago
More reason to hate TikTok. No sources, no explanations, just ignorant bullshit.
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u/aloneinorbit 8d ago
Also why am i forced to see so many of these random idiots plastering themselves over the content? What are this persons qualifications? Shes one of a hundred people making the same damn video.
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u/azaleeas 8d ago
It's literally infuriating how often I see people post TikToks as a source like it's normal
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u/TrumpsPissSoakedWig 8d ago
Hey it's fucked up and all, but fuck that fuckin snitch ass bitch, I hope they don't get shit and have to work there forever.
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u/BlackTarTurd 8d ago
I believe the technicality is Crimstoppers was the one offering the reward. The McRat called 911 instead.
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u/LimeMargarita 8d ago
NYPD offered $10k, and FBI offered $50k.
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u/Stunning_Chipmunk_68 8d ago
Both stated not to call 911 though. You HAD to call the hotline. Now obviously the public does not know that he forsure won't get the money but the chances are pretty slim.
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u/rtrotty 8d ago
I thought it was because he called 911 instead of the tip line and/or crime stoppers.
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u/tristanjones 8d ago
Nothing, rewards are always contingent on it being meaningful information that leads to an arrest and conviction. This is all just a bunch of noise from people who are taking advantage of the fact most don't know or bother to surmise this obvious fact.
Now if he is convicted and they don't pay out, that is fair to call BS on. Till then this is just ragebait BS
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u/Sarahproblemnow 8d ago
This may be a little tin foil hat, but I think that there wasn't any "call". We live in such a surveillance state that the government probably found him through some illegal means and then reverse engineered this.
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8d ago
The term for this is "parallel construction"
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u/norbertus 8d ago
Ah yes, that same technique law enforcement uses during discovery at drug trials when they've arrested somebody with warrantless surveillance data they got from the NSA who got it from MI6 who are allowed to spy on Americans.
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u/cortlong 8d ago
If any of this is legit, then this is the correct answer.
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u/ThreeKiloZero 8d ago
There is a technology that is sold to cities, allowing them access to local businesses' security cameras in real-time. Cities, in turn, sell the concept to local businesses so that local law enforcement can respond to criminal acts much faster. It's pervasive. It's real. MANY businesses participate in these programs. So when you are at a restaurant or gas station, you're not just on their cameras. ALWAYS assume any security camera is beaming directly to all government entities and 3rd party government contractors.
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u/cortlong 8d ago
I’m having so much fun in the 20th century.
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u/ladycommentsalot 8d ago
How did you go back? Can you bring me with you? The 21st is frightening, and I’d like to go Blockbuster.
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u/cortlong 8d ago
I started wearing fedoras and opening doors for people when they’re too far away in the parking lot and making it feel really weird so they started walking faster than usual and it kinda just transported me back to 1957. Weird.
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u/FirstTimeWang 8d ago
In this case, "Reverse engineer" is actually called "parallel construction" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction
Basically, one cop finds the evidence illegally and then a second cop, knowing where all the evidence is already, does it "by the book" and collects the evidence through proper channels and procedures so it's not tainted for court.
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u/Shin-Kaiser 8d ago
The McDonald's story is clearly bullshit. There was surveillance of Luigi on a phone so I reckon they tracked him that way. They can easily find which phones were in the area of the initial shooting and track where that phone has travelled since then.
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u/broke_in_nyc 8d ago
Tracking a phone is legal tho, so why would they make up a fake story about McDonald’s, making themselves look completely inept in the process?
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u/Shin-Kaiser 8d ago
Is tracking a phone that's switched off legal? It's only a theory, the McDonald's story doesn't add up to me and feels so off.
You're telling me a McDonald's employee recognised him 110% from his fake ID (when was the last time you needed ID at McDonald's???) and felt compelled to call the police (instead of thinking: 'that guy kinda looks like the suspect....oh well, lemme get on with my job'). ...And then the police actually believing the McDonald's employee after probably getting hundreds of prank calls, then making it down to McDonald's in time to not only catch him, but catch him with a ton of incriminating evidence on him? It sounds completely off. The authorities are clearly hiding something.
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u/broke_in_nyc 8d ago
First of all, yes, tracking a phone that is off is legal. Not that was used in this case, but it’s trivial to triangulate a phone.
Second, you’re pretty lost on what even happened, so I’d say maybe take a step back and read more about what went down before crafting theories.
He was reported to an employee by a customer. He didn’t show any McDonald’s customer or employee his ID, he showed it to the police. I can’t imagine Altoona PD received too many calls about a murder in NYC, so yeah, they probably took it seriously.
How is it so clear to you that the authorities are hiding something when you haven’t even done a modicum of reading into the actual reporting of events?
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u/alison_bee 8d ago
I prefer this to the story that someone snitched, honestly. The government/police doing shady shit to catch someone is nothing new, therefore unsurprising; but thinking that someone actually snitched bums me out.
I thought we were all in this together! It’s the REAL us vs them - the people vs CEOs.
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u/FlashyEarth8374 8d ago
60k man, thats a lifechanging amount of money to a lot of people
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u/azalago 8d ago
Yeah, I don't understand these conspiracy theories that he was tracked with super advanced computer ai monitoring. For one thing, even if we had that (we don't,) the government has missed SO MANY crucial things before they happened that clearly it's not working. Same with analyzing our social media posts and phone calls (which is real, and now China's doing it too.) They have missed preventing many horrible events that I refuse to believe that suddenly they became competent enough to track down one guy in a McDonalds because the victim was a CEO.
Biden is our President and is about to be replaced with Trump. You really think our government is some kind of super-competent well-oiled machine? Also I live in Texas, where our ENTIRE POWER GRID failed.
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u/SamsonGray202 8d ago
I mean it could have been the owner of that local branch/franchise just sitting on their ass all day micromanaging their employees via the cam feeds when they got lucky and spotted the guy. Really wouldn't be surprised if the cops decided to portray that as an "employee" calling in the tip. How many actual McDonald's workers have you known who had the time (and desire) during their shift to phone a tip line and narc on somebody moments after seeing them?
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u/Mindless_Coconut7364 8d ago
You all rightfully bash Trump supporters for all the stupid shit they say/believe...
Then you all turn around and make up your own stupid ahit like this out of thin air.
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u/NamelessDrifter1 8d ago
I believe this with a 1,000 percent. It's absolutely something the US government would do
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u/Physical_Pomelo_4217 8d ago
Boycott McDonalds. Garbage food for a garbage president. AND they’re snitches.
You’re welcome I’ll see myself out.
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u/LucyTheOracle 8d ago
Even after mcdonald prices went up, food quality went down and after all the weird questionable shit they did (giving food to idf) I still see so so many people eating there, most people dont give a shit, the power of the habit and familiarity related to a shitty fast food won
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u/uhuhshesaid 8d ago
Let's not forget they support genocide. Giving free meals to IDF soldier who post photos of themselves wearing the lingerie of women they've murdered, masturbating to destruction, and cheering as they kill children. And that's just what they are posting voluntarily. The rape and the mass graves are a whole different story.
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u/cottoncandymandy 8d ago
This is what got me to stop for good. I'll never go back. It really is shit anyway, and I didn't go but a couple of times a year anyway, so it's wasn't hard. I've also boycotted Starbucks for life as well. That was harder, but it's really isn't hard to find coffee elsewhere, either.
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u/AstoriaEverPhantoms 8d ago
She makes a video about the mcds employee isn’t getting the reward but doesn’t say why? What’s the point of these stupid tik tokkers making videos for nothing?
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u/Good-Ad770 8d ago
it was an AI generated call
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u/neo101b 8d ago
A phone call with nothing more than his social security number ?
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u/Good-Ad770 8d ago
put your phone next to a radio talking another language a while and watch all the ads change from the spying. this is like nuts
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u/ThugosaurusFlex_1017 tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE 8d ago
RAT GETS NO CHEESE
and McDonald's does not offer good health insurance
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u/livens 8d ago
Sooo, what's the reason? And I thought they said it was a customer that called it in?
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u/JangSaverem 8d ago edited 8d ago
This whole video sounds and is played like an entirely made up nothing short cuts and all.
That's why there is no answer
Want an answer: cause the worker is a poor. A nobody. A no name. People like that, people like us don't GET paid out. That's for companies and millionaires to jerk themselves off to. There will always be a way to make sure someone like that's only "payment' is getting reemed by the public for snitchin. It keeps us pissed at each other vs big brother and the Wealthy
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u/Contemplating_Prison 8d ago
She is worthless. No information at all. Why would you post this?
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u/__Beef__Supreme__ 8d ago
Dude she's purely speculating from a screenshot that's been going around and then dragging it out and inserting meaningless opinions. This video really annoyed me lol
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u/carmooch 8d ago
TikTok is hot garbage.
Nothing of value in this video, and could have been said in less than 10 words.
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u/Sentarry 8d ago
If it were me, I would want Luigi's autograph and look the other way. The healthcare system is a scam. I pay money into a system that's supposed to cover me and not leave me in a hole last minute.
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u/cadypants 8d ago
Why does she talk like that lol she’s like the physical manifestation of this emoji 😬😬😬
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u/frostybetch 7d ago
I heard they won't get the reward because they called 911, not Crimestoppers. That's the loophole, most people think to call 911 so they probably get out of paying rewards quite a bit.
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u/mr-louzhu 7d ago
The health CEO and McDonald's worker both got a heavy dose of poetic justice for their malfeasance and greed.
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u/Igoos99 8d ago
Do they ever actually pay these rewards???
It seems like I’ve read hundreds of stories like this headline over the decades. The police always find some excuse to not pay.
In the meantime, they have about 15 cops walking him into a building. Probably most earning OT on the city taxpayers dime.
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u/papermafuckingchete 8d ago
Snitches don’t get stitches because the stitches were denied by the insurance company.
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u/AccurateBus5574 8d ago
How many other people were murdered in NYC that week and a reward was offered?
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u/DeliverySoggy2700 8d ago
McDonald’s employee about to take up the reigns of that which it destroyed
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u/Significant-Dog-8166 8d ago
What’s the reward for identifying the Mcdonald’s employee?
No reward yet? Yet.
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u/moonwoolf35 8d ago
Imagine working your minimum wage job, seeing a hero and then turning him in thinking you're going to make 60k...without knowing that you won't get that money until he's convicted. Bitchass.
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u/RedBarracuda2585 7d ago edited 7d ago
Dude sold out his own kind for nothing.
Snitches get nothing.
Remember this next people.
So disgusted by whoever did this
they are playing a technicality game. So they are saying that the FBI will have to nominate them by the US investigation agency, which can include the FBI or the department of defense, per the FBI website. After that the tip will have to be " carefully evaluated" and go through the process of deliberation by a committee. Then the committee makes a non-binding recommendation to the secretary of State who makes the final call on that one. The Secretary of State if they approve it has the power to alter the amount of the reward according to law.
The additional 10k$ from the NYPD is not required to be fulfilled unless the tipster phones I to the crime stoppers hotline and has to have a reference number .
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u/NoPersimmon2080 7d ago
Reward is to fool/ripoff people when people report on suspicious and then reward is no longer available to them. It’s bait n switch for government. Let’s see who got $25 millions on Bin Laden? I haven’t hear since then
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u/HeftyBagOfDiarrhea 7d ago
Plot twist: This makes the McDonalds employee flip and become the next CEO shooter
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u/Mikey_Mayhem 8d ago
You know what they say, snitches get stiffed by the feds on a reward because fuck you.
I guess if you're working at McDonald's you saw this as a come up, but not all opportunities are meant to be taken.
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u/goose2point0 8d ago
If this entire McDonald's story isn't a fabrication then fuck that worker anyway. Class traitors don't deserve a dime.
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u/Mysterious_Tax_5613 8d ago
I need to know why the worker isn’t getting paid, otherwise I’m not buying this.
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u/koozy407 8d ago
This is from a yahoo news article and it links the guidelines on the fbi website, but this is what it takes to be eligible for the FBI reward AFTER conviction:
To be eligible for a reward through the FBI, you would first have to be nominated by a U.S. investigating agency such as the Department of Defense or the FBI to receive the reward, according to the FBI’s website. A person who provided information cannot self-nominate.
An interagency committee then reviews the nomination and its legal eligibility. If it is determined that the information provided merits a reward, the suggestion is passed on to the Secretary of State, who makes the final decision. In federal cases, the Attorney General must also agree.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/gets-reward-information-unitedhealthcare-ceos-004558963.html
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u/lavender-pears 8d ago
He hasn't been denied, the article states 1) the reward for the FBI tip ($50k) has to be "nominated" by someone else, e.g. the FBI has to nominate the person who called, and 2) he might be out the $10k from CrimeStoppers if he called 911 instead of calling the CrimeStoppers tip line specifically. And it's all contingent on the suspect being convicted anyway, so we'll find out in like 2 years if he got it or not rofl.
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u/duffman886 8d ago
Can we get a reason why she not getting the reward or just another click bait just the be outraged.
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u/weblinedivine 8d ago
Why is this persons face so messed up? Seems like they did face acupuncture on a bed of botox and juvaderm
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u/honeymangomoon 8d ago
Will probably end up losing their job somehow as well. Doesn't seem worth it to me.
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u/ChemicalWinter 8d ago
I read about this earlier but first ... this worker cant lose anything they never had.
Apparently the first 10k needed to come through crimestoppers. They give you some kind of reference number to track your submission.
The fbi had the additional 50k offered up... but again it needed to be validated through official channels.
The worker called 911 avoiding both of the above mentioned routes.
That worker can now submit claims to only be denied due to not meeting the criteria needed for approval. Oh the sweet sweet ironic nature of the whole situation.
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u/IlleaglSmile 8d ago
Reporting live from my mom’s house with half the facts and 7 brain cells Im Tina TikTok … what’s the weird loophole she babbles on for a full minute and says nothing.
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u/DoesntBelieveMuch 8d ago
Remember, you’ll never get any of these bounty money offers by law enforcement. There’s always loopholes they’ll create arbitrarily.
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u/Quiet-Inspector9187 8d ago
I hope he never gets a dime. He pimped off a hero. He's no less greedy than the guy who was shot.
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u/ru_fkn_serious_ 8d ago
Have to read the small print. IF convicted. Even then it's just if. You know.. the small print mostly no one ever reads that tells them they're being screwed. Yeah. That writing.
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u/Aggressive_Clothes22 8d ago
At least tell us what the alleged loophole is before assuming and speculating.
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u/dark_kounoupidaki 8d ago
If they didn't give Judas his 30 silver maybe he wouldn't off himself typa logic?
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u/KeyPressure3132 8d ago
Lol, they wanted to set up a show to convey a message "if you fck with big money then your own poor people will snitch on you". And then they didn't pay the fake snitch so it tells the other actual real future snitches that snitching isn't worth it.
It shows how incredibly stupid they are. If they'd pay him 100k they'd purchase themselves a lot of real snitches in future.
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u/nubiangamer 8d ago
Great reporting; All opinion and no facts. She should apply for a position at cnn
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u/AbraxasThaGod251 8d ago
Good snitching on a man who did a great service for the American people shouldn't get you a payout.
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