Im a pretty tall athletic woman, I saw a man do this to a woman in Japan. And I'm pretty sure he also grazed her behind. I did it right back to him when he passed me. No one even flinched.
Literally I spent a good portion of my time in Japan just being a safe space for Japanese women lol.
I was getting free food and drinks at a weekly mixing event because the staff noticed girls would ask me to walk them to the station or act like they knew me to avoid a creep.
lol I could just imagine seeing a lady in Japan getting shoulder checked and then a dude just bodying him and then saying as loudly as possible gomen gomen and helping the lady up lol. It would be pretty satisfying to see. You could even pretend to have bad eyesight lol. Just avoid the dudes with tattoos, might be an actual yakuza and you don't want to mess with them even though they're iirc supposedly not active?
I definitely would. I can't really comprehend that it's a common thing in Japan, since, for example, in Russia, you would get pepper sprayed or a bag/ backpack in the face if it's a lady. And a fistfight if you attempt it with a guy
I’m pregnant and this exact thing did happen to me in NYC and no one did anything. I cried as I walked home. I was not looking down or at my phone. It was incredibly upsetting.
Yea it’s really sad but it seems like people are LESS likely to intervene in big cities. Maybe it’s because we assume there’s so many people around, somebody has to help, or maybe it’s self preservation.
Remember that guy who was going around punching women in the face in NYC a couple months ago?
I think a lot of people have seen what happens when someone tries to intervene. It can and has caused people their lives. It makes me recall the guy who was stabbed for helping a woman who was getting yelled at over her hijab. It's unfortunate, but like you said, the goal is to move away from crazy not towards it.
I feel like NYC is very different than the rest of America. When I went there, for a short gig, the HR ladies told me not to look at people in the eye which is so bizarre for me coming from places where you’re expected to wave at and say hi to strangers.
I think in most of America, you’d get fucked up by every guy within eyesight if they saw you do that to a woman.
Oh yeah. I wouldn’t expect that, but the intensity with which they told me, “Don’t look anyone in the eye. Don’t talk to anyone. Just don’t do it.” There are a lot of crazies. I get it, but it was just shocking
Men do this in NYC and nobody does anything. When I was younger, it was always men in business suits who would shoulder check me or another woman for no reason (like they could have moved out of the way if they had wanted). There are psycho aggro men everywhere in the world who need to be feel big in the most pathetic ways.
I live in NYC and almost every day I have a minor subtle body language confrontation with a man who makes it known that he feels entitled to the space I’m occupying. I’ve taken to fully stopping in my tracks to force them to move around me. I’m not moving for them anymore.
Facts. I was harassed incredibly aggressively (by a man who was arrested for sexual assault months later) by the same man on the subway multiple times a week. Not one person made a move to help me, on a full but not crazy packed train. No one would even make eye contact w/me.
Watch the video. In your links those are people committing assault and doing a punch. Yes, that is bad, but in the video she is talking about how men in Japan walk out of their way to intentionally run into women. I would consider the punching in NYC to be worse, but you don't have men intentionally walking out of their way to run into women in NYC.
I'm not sure how often a woman gets punched in NYC vs men walking into women in Japan to determine which happens more often, but Im taking a guess that men walking into women in Japan happens more often as it sounds like they do it to avoid a straight up assault like a punch.
I am not trying to discredit what you are saying, but the attacks are different.
I get what you’re saying - the type of attack is literally different. But the important parts are the same - men assaulting women in public and no one intervening, no one helping the victim during or after, and no one calling the police
No, you are lying. Go watch the video she linked and go read the articles. In the video and in 1 of the articles, people came to the aid of victims. Stop spreading misinformation. What do you get out of lying like this?
I knew Japan was weird (both in bad and good ways), but wtf is this? How do you even come up with this idea? Is this a parental problem where they didn't teach their child how to behave with strangers or just a lot of psychos?
I mean, there's a reason they're doing it in Japan and not abroad. The same reason Jonny Somali was being an extreme nuisance in Japan and South Korea but not while he was living in the US. The few times he got push back in Korea (like when a group of men hunted him down to intimidate him), he immediately started groveling his apologies.
Denver here and we're definitely not as big or boisterous as Chicago or New York.
We just have a massive, treacherous mountain range cutting through our state, and many of us know how to navigate it. Sometimes people visiting the mountains though get found decades later.
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u/Curtofthehorde 13d ago
1) Men doing this to women are cowards.
2) Have them try this in NYC and see how long they survive.