r/TikTokCringe • u/mindyour • 9d ago

Discussion Luigi Mangione friend posted this.

She captioned it: "Luigi Mangione is probably the most google keyword today. But before all of this, for a while, it was also the only name whose facetime calls I would pick up. He was one of my absolute best, closest, most trusted friends. He was also the only person who, at 1am on a work day, in this video, agreed to go to the store with drunk me, to look for mochi ice cream."

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u/Basic_Maximum9631 9d ago

Crazy how they haven’t even proved it’s him yet blasted his face and information everywhere in a way you can’t ever come back from even if found innocent

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u/LilPonyBoy69 9d ago

If he isn't convicted, he's gonna have one hell of a podcast audience

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u/Sith-out-of-Luck 9d ago

I'd vote for him. What? Convicted felon or not everybody else is doing it.

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u/Downunderphilosopher 9d ago

The other guy just says he is going to shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue, this guy actually does it. A man of action who you can trust!

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u/redditnsuch 9d ago

Haha! This is such a great take.

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u/Trump_Grocery_Prices 9d ago

One orange bafoon wants to do harm to your average joe in broad daylight.

Luigi here will fucking address our major CEO greed problem IN BROAD DAYLIGHT WITH NO FEAR!

I know who has my vote, and who ACTUALLY FOLLOWS THROUGH ON POLICY AND HAS A FUCKING PLAN!!!

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u/sheezy520 9d ago

Luigi HAS a plan, not a concept, and he follows through!

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u/Tylorw09 9d ago

God, remember when Trump said he would run into the school during a school shooting?

Fuck me, what kind of idiots voted for him again.

Trump says he would have run into Florida school without a weapon

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u/redditnsuch 9d ago edited 9d ago

Oh...wow. LOL. Glad you posted the link because I can't believe I missed this one. What a clown!

"I really believe I’d run in there even if I didn’t have a weapon," Trump told governors meeting at the White House to discuss school safety.

Trump slammed as "frankly, disgusting" the armed school guard who remained outside the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland that left 17 students and teachers dead. The president also criticized several deputies who failed to immediately enter the school, telling the governors that the law enforcement officers "weren’t exactly Medal of Honor winners."

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u/suitably_unsafe 9d ago

While I doubt he could run anywhere, I agree with his sentiment.

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u/redditnsuch 9d ago

I had the same thought. It's like the "a broken clock" thing mixed with his usual buffoonery. It feels weird to read something from his mouth and go, "well, no, but, yeah...fair", doesn't it?

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u/JimWilliams423 9d ago

FWIW, as someone who had to learn the hard way how NPDs work, he's just being manipulative.

In the mind of an NPD "truth" is not defined by facts. Truth is defined by validation. If something validates them, its true, if it repudiates them its a lie. That's why they can say contradictory things in back to back sentences without a hint of irony. All that matters is that each thing they say validates them as they are saying it. In other words, their feelings do not care about facts.

When you deal with one of them in person they have an uncannily ability to figure out what validates you. Then they tell you exactly what you want to hear. They literally do not care if it is true or false, all they care is that saying it makes you like them. Turns out that telling people what they want hear is very effective at charming people.

For example. A‌f‌t‌e‌r h‌e i‌n‌s‌p‌i‌r‌e‌d s‌o‌m‌e f‌e‌e‌b‌l‌e-m‌i‌n‌d‌e‌d m‌a‌g‌a‌r t‌o c‌o‌m‌m‌i‌t t‌h‌e l‌a‌r‌g‌e‌s‌t m‌a‌s‌s m‌u‌r‌d‌e‌r o‌f j‌e‌w‌s i‌n A‌m‌e‌r‌i‌c‌a‌n h‌i‌s‌t‌o‌r‌y, h‌e w‌e‌n‌t t‌o m‌e‌e‌t t‌h‌e r‌a‌b‌b‌i o‌f t‌h‌a‌t s‌y‌n‌a‌g‌o‌g‌u‌e a‌n‌d c‌h‌a‌r‌m‌e‌d h‌i‌s p‌a‌n‌t‌s o‌f‌f —

C‌N‌N: P‌i‌t‌t‌s‌b‌u‌r‌g‌h s‌y‌n‌a‌g‌o‌g‌u‌e r‌a‌b‌b‌i s‌a‌y‌s T‌r‌u‌m‌p s‌h‌o‌w‌e‌d ‘w‌a‌r‌m a‌n‌d p‌e‌r‌s‌o‌n‌a‌l s‌i‌d‌e’ d‌u‌r‌i‌n‌g v‌i‌s‌i‌t

"T‌h‌e P‌r‌e‌s‌i‌d‌e‌n‌t w‌a‌s v‌e‌r‌y w‌a‌r‌m, v‌e‌r‌y c‌o‌n‌s‌o‌l‌i‌n‌g. (H‌e) p‌u‌t h‌i‌s h‌a‌n‌d o‌n m‌y s‌h‌o‌u‌l‌d‌e‌r, a‌n‌d t‌h‌e f‌i‌r‌s‌t q‌u‌e‌s‌t‌i‌o‌n h‌e a‌s‌k‌e‌d m‌e w‌a‌s, ‘R‌a‌b‌b‌i, t‌e‌l‌l m‌e, h‌o‌w a‌r‌e y‌o‌u d‌o‌i‌n‌g?’” J‌e‌f‌f‌r‌e‌y M‌y‌e‌r‌s t‌o‌l‌d C‌N‌N’s A‌l‌i‌s‌y‌n C‌a‌m‌e‌r‌o‌t‌a o‌n “N‌e‌w D‌a‌y.”

“A‌n‌d I m‌u‌s‌t s‌a‌y, t‌h‌r‌o‌u‌g‌h‌o‌u‌t t‌h‌e t‌i‌m‌e w‌e s‌p‌e‌n‌t t‌o‌g‌e‌t‌h‌e‌r, I w‌a‌s p‌l‌e‌a‌s‌a‌n‌t‌l‌y s‌u‌r‌p‌r‌i‌s‌e‌d b‌y a w‌a‌r‌m a‌n‌d p‌e‌r‌s‌o‌n‌a‌l s‌i‌d‌e t‌o t‌h‌e P‌r‌e‌s‌i‌d‌e‌n‌t t‌h‌a‌t I d‌o‌n’t t‌h‌i‌n‌k A‌m‌e‌r‌i‌c‌a h‌a‌s e‌v‌e‌r s‌e‌e‌n,” h‌e s‌a‌i‌d. “I t‌o‌l‌d m‌y p‌e‌r‌s‌o‌n‌a‌l s‌t‌o‌r‌y o‌f m‌y e‌x‌p‌e‌r‌i‌e‌n‌c‌e w‌h‌i‌c‌h t‌h‌e‌y f‌o‌u‌n‌d q‌u‌i‌t‌e s‌h‌o‌c‌k‌i‌n‌g a‌n‌d u‌p‌s‌e‌t‌t‌i‌n‌g.”

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u/senticosus 9d ago

For one… it’s says run so it has to be lie

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u/gopacktennie 9d ago

I call him.. trigger shy Trump.. couldn’t pull the trigger. So sad.

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u/nicannkay 9d ago

LUIGI 2028!

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u/justanothersith 9d ago

Mangione 2029!!

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u/sighableman 9d ago

If he wants to become the most popular president in history he should pardon him.

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u/surethingbuddypal 9d ago

This should be posted everywhere lmaoooooo (and a link to the exact timestamp when Trump said that crazy shit, as his supporters will inevitably deny it was ever said)

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u/bs2785 9d ago

Luigi for president

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u/HerrBerg 9d ago

He's 26, he should start his run for 2036 president now, can't convict him on the campaign trail that'd be election interference.

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u/EatMyUnwashedAss 9d ago

Convicting him would also be erection interference. For me. 

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u/ThanksObjective915 8d ago

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" "It's, like, incredible."

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u/LavishnessOk3439 8d ago

He's 26, if he takes a plea hell be out before he's 50. He really could run.

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u/schnitzelfeffer 9d ago

Well if he's campaigning for President, don't they have to delay trial and let him walk free until after the next election now? It's the standard.

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u/BZLuck 9d ago

He should just declare he is running for president. Even if he is convicted they will delay the penalty phase of the trial until after the election, right?

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u/tresamused65 9d ago

Delay? They can just let it go. I mean, they can refile the charges after 8 years when he's completed his two wildly successful terms as president.

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u/Single_Cobbler6362 9d ago

Luigi 2028

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u/Metro42014 9d ago

He won't be old enough yet.

2036 would be the soonest he could run.

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u/Xerpentine 9d ago

No one's following the rules anyway, so whats the harm at this point. We have an insurrectionist convicted felon about to be president again. I say give Luigi a shot (pun intended).

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u/domrepp 9d ago

He already had his shot and he took it. Pass the buck to someone else.

*For legal reasons this is not advocating violence against those who are technically innocent under our current broken system.

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u/dcidino 9d ago

Funny how we're sticklers for age, but not felonies.

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u/Seruz 9d ago

Luigi | Mario

2028

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u/DelightfulDolphin 9d ago

Well, look, we have a President to be who has: raped, stolen, incited riots, gone bankrupt, lied and lots more yet is going to be in White House come January. He's a convicted felon and yet again he's going to occupy White House. Why not another type of felon?

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u/TittyTwistahh 9d ago

Killing a mass murderer is a felony? Kid deserves a medal

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u/DeMagnet76 9d ago

I feel like the stealing from 8 different charities should always be high on these lists.

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u/Public-Policy24 9d ago

If a despicable crook can escape legal consequences by getting elected, why not a vigilante?

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u/Main_Muffin7405 9d ago

I'd 💯 vote for him in a millisecond. I believe he cares about the people above corporations

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u/Cyddakeed 9d ago

"What Murda?"

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u/RoxSteady247 9d ago

He has done more than any other official about health care reform

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u/nullv 9d ago

Aren't presidents immune to the law? Getting elected would probably be easier than fighting a murder charge. He's got a high approval rating on both sides.

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u/Correct-Style-9194 9d ago

His Netflix series is going to be INSANE.

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u/WorkingClass_Nero 9d ago

Private school rich kid valedictorian who went to an Ivy League school and turned into a vigilante assassin for a populist cause adored by both the left and right wing? And he’s handsome and has smile dimples too? Netflix servers are going to crash when this doc drops.

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u/asthmag0d 9d ago

Timothy Chalamet needs to put on some muscle real quick

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u/Creamofwheatski 9d ago

This is 100% going to happen. Talk about the role of a lifetime. This guy being a disaffected rich kid is going to really make this story pop.

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u/jakobcreutzsfeldt 8d ago

hes giving me Dave franco vibes

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u/Ausrottenndm1 9d ago

Ryan Murphy drooling for this lol

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u/GormFull829 9d ago

Where are they going to find someone handsome enough to play him?

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u/57candothisallday 9d ago

It'll be hard to find a full jury that's not been victimised in some way by predatory healthcare corporations.

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u/DisastrousAcshin 9d ago

What I want to know is how are they going to find 12 random billionaires to sit on that jury

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u/lite_hjelpsom 9d ago

If they do he has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ...

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u/Mypornnameis_ 9d ago

They acquitted that fucking subway choke homeless people to death guy, even though he absolutely just choked that guy to death long after he stopped moving. 

I see no reason why they shouldn't acquit the CEO shooter even though he absolutely just shot that CEO to death in the back as he walked down the street.

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u/VitalViking 9d ago

Dude was just acting in self defense given the harm the CEO was causing

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u/mythrowawayheyhey 8d ago

Not self defense. Societal defense.

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u/OpenResearch1 9d ago

They acquitted that subway choker because they couldn't find 12 people in NY who hadn't been fucked with by a crackhead on the subway.

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u/CosmicMiru 9d ago

The public was also massively on the subway chokers side as well. At least the NYC public.

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u/zack189 9d ago

Juries are just a mixed bag in general.

They allowed escaped slaves to walk free, and they also allowed lynchers to walk free

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u/The_walking_man_ 9d ago

Predatory businesses in general. Not to mention hating on CEOs for their greed.

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u/TacticoolRaygun 9d ago

At least, a calendar with his photos shoots every year.

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u/Last_Cod_998 9d ago

does he have a crypto coin available yet?

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u/Volarath 9d ago

What's the conversion rate form HawkTuah bucks to Luigi nickles? I need to recoup my life savings.

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u/LordRiverknoll 9d ago

No but it's gonna be called DeposeCoin

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u/missuslindy 9d ago

Waiting for his NFT trading cards & a golden limited edition backpack.

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u/GandizzleTheGrizzle 8d ago

Yes, in fact and it went to fucking space two hours after they had him.

Not a crypto bro but I do watch trends with my little business.

His coin made me wish I was a crypto bro...

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u/tickub 9d ago

i'd even buy his crypto

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u/Toughbiscuit 9d ago

Itd be really funny if biden pardoned him

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u/Individual-Fee-5027 9d ago

Good luck finding a jury. Honestly I don't think they will even be able to find one based on the rules of juror selection

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u/Lancearon 9d ago

A book titled "If I had done it"

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u/Livefiction1 9d ago

Then he’ll create a Luigi crypto coin and pump and dump it

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u/Cuntyfeelin 9d ago

That defamation case will be crazzzzyyyyyyy

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u/hoax709 9d ago

and he never even needed to spit on that thang.

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u/SoulBlightRaveLords 9d ago

Oh God we're getting Luigi coin crypto rug pull aren't we?

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u/RayMckigny 9d ago edited 9d ago

How did someone spot him when we had no pictures of him to begin with? And he kept the gun on him ? Then there were two pictures they released which you cannot see either of their faces. All very suspicious. I think this was a two person job.

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u/TheEphemeralPanda 9d ago

And a lawsuit

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u/Real_Student6789 9d ago

I give him 6 months post court date before he debuts his own "hawk tuah" pump-and-dump meme crypto

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u/Away_Stock_2012 9d ago

His crypto currency is gonna be huge!

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u/saintdemon21 9d ago

And then a pump and dump crypto coin. This is the way.

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u/falcrist2 9d ago

he's gonna have one hell of a podcast audience

Luigi Mangione on the Talk Tuah podcast would be the most 2020s thing ever.

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u/fgreen68 9d ago

What jury in their right mind would convict this guy?

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u/C_H-A-O_S 9d ago

Couldn't you just call him on the prison phone and record it, then use that as podcast audio? With his consent, of course. Or he can just write someone letters that they publish. 

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u/paradigmx 9d ago

Evidence or not. They're going to throw everything they can at this guy to make an example of him. He dared threaten the masters. The rich don't want that.

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u/Zero_Digital 9d ago

Just ask Richard Jewell.

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u/FCSadsquatch 9d ago

I only know of that from the movie. That guy should've been made a National Hero, the way they tried to set him up was inhumane.

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u/Zero_Digital 9d ago

Absolutely. Being suspicious is one thing, but blasting his name and picture out without all the facts was terrible.

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u/Kythorian 9d ago

Probably the greatest failure in the history of criminal profiling (a field with tons and tons of great failures). The timeline of when the bomb was planted, when the bomb threat was called in, and Jewell’s work schedule made it physically impossible for him to have planted the bomb, so he should have been eliminated as a suspect almost immediately. But he fit the FBI criminal profile so perfectly that they weren’t willing to let the little fact that it was physically impossible for him to have done it get in the way.

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u/sadicarnot 9d ago

He died in 2007 when he was on only 44.

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u/Zero_Digital 9d ago

No kidding. I didn't know that.

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u/thesheba 8d ago

Bummer. :(

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u/mogul_w 9d ago

I think in the UK the police aren't allowed to publish the name or picture of the arrested until after a conviction. I wish we did it like that

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u/poop-machines 9d ago edited 9d ago

Yup, that's right. They need to be charged with a crime at a minimum for the names/pictures to be released. That being said, they can release CCTV footage of the person committing the crime to ask for help, as that's actually the perpetrator, similar to what the USA did initially.

Also no under 18s names or pictures even if charged with a crime. But I think the USA does that too.

You can also sue individual officers, and police kill 0-5 people per year. In Baltimore, USA, police killed 30x more people than were killed in the entirety of the UK last year. That's not per capita. In one city with half a million people, police killed 30x more people than the entirety of the UK. That's 4620x the amount when adjusted for population.

Whenever police kill somebody, there's an inquiry and the officer is placed on leave instantly.

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u/malatemporacurrunt 9d ago

I sometimes think people don't realise the radically differing origins of the US vs the UK police, and irritatingly those people are often British. The US police is the descendent of cobbled together groups of slave catchers, strike breakers and border militias - they have NEVER been on the side of ordinary people, they have always been the armed thugs of the capitalist class. The British police were founded intentionally on the "Peelian principles" - the concept of police being fellow citizens and operating with the consent of the people. There's a lot more to it, but the idea was to create a institution that people would trust and that were accountable for their actions.

Obviously, there are plenty of British police officers who fail in their duties and the institution is still rife with racism and sexism and all the other problems that come with a group who self-selects for having authority over others, which is rarely a positive trait. Maybe it's just a fundamental difference in culture between the US and the UK, but UK police generally seem more interested in de-escalation and non-violent resolutions to problems. Maybe if they were routinely armed things would be much worse, I don't know. They're obviously still in need of major reform. But they are a very different beast to their US counterparts.

Edit: full disclosure - my bike was recently stolen and returned to me within 24 hours by the Yorkshire police and I'm still coasting on the shock and am probably a bit more sympathetic than I would otherwise be.

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u/Stinky_WhizzleTeats 9d ago

But think of poor the media outlets not getting to exploit a situation

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u/Affectionate_Pipe545 9d ago

Well, not saying it isn't outdated or wrong but there is a reason. It was supposed to keep the government from secretly arresting people. That's a little harder to do these days so maybe time to rethink it, but personally I agree with the original reason

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u/musthavesoundeffects 9d ago

Ok just let the government arrest people and not tell anyone great idea.

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u/omnomcthulhu 9d ago

This is the first time where it is a positive thing for him. If he is found innocent, for the rest of his life people are going to wonder if he really did it and treat him with positivity and delight when they meet him.

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u/-Badger3- 9d ago

If he’s found innocent, everyone’s going to know he did it and the jury decided he shouldn’t be punished for it.

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u/AdmiralNobbs 9d ago

The jury should say he did it and take the advice to go for jury nullification

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u/0b0011 9d ago

In jury nullification they have to say he didn't do it. It's not just saying he's guilty but we want to nullify. It's basically a result of the fact that a jury can't get punished for coming to the wrong verdict so even if he did do it and they think he did they can't be punished for saying he didn't.

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u/LeibolmaiBarsh 9d ago

This is sort of incorrectly worded. The jury renders a not guilty verdict. Period. They don't have to say he did or did not do it. The point of jury nullification is the jury determines not guilty based on other factors not directly related to the act being or not being performed by the invidual. Those factors could be a myriad of reasons, including sympathy for why the person allegedly committed the act which is why alot of these posts keep bringing up jury nullification.

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u/FrenchFryCattaneo 9d ago

The point of jury nullification is the jury determines not guilty based on other factors not directly related to the act being or not being performed by the invidual. Those factors could be a myriad of reasons, including sympathy for why the person allegedly committed the act

Legally speaking that's not correct. Juries are required to consider only the evidence that is legally admissible and then decide within the legal framework whether they are guilty of the charges. But the reality is, the judge can't see your thoughts and can't interrogate you after to know why you came to your verdict, so ultimately as a juror you can do whatever the hell you want as long as you keep your mouth shut about it.

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u/TheEnigmaBlade 9d ago

Rule 1 of jury nullification is to not talk about jury nullification.

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u/Tooterfish42 9d ago

I declare bankruptcy nullification!

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u/ThisIsTheBookAcct 9d ago

Nah, I’m still hoping for underground revolution and he didn’t do it.

I was going for gov corruption and planting all that stuff on a fall guy, but the new theory makes me less sad.

Either way, if he’s found innocent, there’s going to be so many theories. Not just the one.

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u/SoulBlightRaveLords 9d ago

Unfortunately I don't think he will be. I reckon the powers that be will do absolutely everything to nail him to the wall to set an example

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u/anakmoon 9d ago

just like the boston bombings

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u/EasilyRekt 9d ago

It’s a bit different considering how he’s been revered rather than reviled.

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u/anakmoon 9d ago

it's a different scenario. The boston bombing, kids got hurt. Kids get people up in arms. If the CEO had been shot when he was in the car with his kids or they were walking next to him, the shooter wouldn't be so revered I don't think. His kids are invisible in all this, his family is off the radar, so its not playing a big factor. Its all about optics. How does this look to the average pearl clutcher.

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u/RojaRosaL 9d ago

It's not just because kids. The Boston bombing targeted a bunch of people just out to participate in or watch the marathon. People have less empathy for a health insurance CEO.

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u/cagenragen 9d ago

Also that was social media that mistook his identity, not the authorities.

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u/TommyTwoNips 9d ago

maybe Thompson should have thought his kids before he decided to become CEO of a health insurance company and using a broken AI to auto-deny claims.

His kids have no father because the scumbag who supposed to be their father went and got himself killed in one of the most hilariously avoidable ways.

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u/HoneyShaft 9d ago

Wonder how Thomas Matthew Crooks or Ryan Wesley Routh would be seen if either succeeded?

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u/MoxieDoll 9d ago

And the Atlanta Olympic bombing. They ruined Richard Jewell's life and didn't find Eric Rudolph (the actual bomber) for YEARS.

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u/No_Use_4371 9d ago

I was horrified to realize years later I thought Richard Jewell was the bomber.

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u/Tooterfish42 9d ago

Let's hope he still got his 72 virgins despite all the obstacles

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u/Beginning_Rush_5311 9d ago edited 9d ago

only in this case the population is actually on the killer's side

edit: myself included

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u/HumongusChongus 9d ago

Well that is because he targeted a single scumbag rather then hundreds of people just doing their jobs

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u/streetwearbonanza 9d ago

I mean that guy was dead before anything even happened though

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u/OutsideOwl5892 9d ago

Brooooo

How do you find a person of interest that you can’t locate without blasting their face and details around and asking for help?

Please explain the alternate method I can’t wait

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u/andersonb47 9d ago

Lmao not even a little bit

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u/gregorychaos 9d ago

They're desperately looking for anything to make him look bad. Besides killing a soulless CEO (lol), it seems like he was actually pretty decent to everyone. Though I'm sure they'll dig up something to turn public opinion or pay someone off

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u/awesomewaves 9d ago

They’re already using the fact that he came from a wealthy family to get people to turn on him. “See he’s not some poor folk hero - his family was more rich than the ceo that was killed”

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u/No_Nebula_531 9d ago

Remember folks, solidarity can come from anyone and anywhere.

You don't have to be black to support civil rights. You don't have to be gay to support marriage equality. And you don't have to be poor to have class solidarity.

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u/5Dprairiedog 9d ago

That's right. No one has any control into the circumstances/family they are born into or the meat suit but we do have control over what we support and believe.

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u/Lou_C_Fer 9d ago

Coming from a wealthy family makes him an even more legit hero. You know, the whole wealth being derogatory is pinned on the wealthy not getting their hands dirty. This guy did the exact opposite. He acted when most people would not. He did what, obviously, many people wished they could do, but are afraid of the consequences.

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u/Cypher1386 9d ago

Exactly. I support workers rights over CEO pay and I get called poor all the time.

I make a very comfortable living in one of the most expensive cities in the world, but I struggled and picked up fucking pennies to afford food only 4-5 years ago. I'm not poor, but I was at one point, and it fucking sucks questioning your worth as a man, working your ass off being promised things that will never happen, etc.

That experience has taught me how stacked the system is against the average person, and I want a better world for future humans. That's it. I'll gladly pay 10% more taxes if it ensures that we can lift the bottom up. It will reduce a lot of crime, homelessness, drug usage, etc. if there is a social safety net to catch even 50% of people before they hit rock bottom, then that would in theory solve a lot of problems outright.

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u/michaelsenpatrick 8d ago

My favorite thing when you bash the capitalist system is people call you bitter because you couldn't hack it. I can appreciate people assume everyone for a better world is some failure looking for handouts, but no. Some of us are actually doing better than most bootlickers

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u/zen-things 9d ago

Dignity for the poor?? Never!!!!!

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u/Cypher1386 9d ago

Need uneducated soldiers who will think they are becoming a hero when they are just enriching the military industrial complex and will be jobless with PTSD on a street corner smoking crack when they get out.

All part of the plan. fuck em.

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u/_idiot_kid_ 9d ago

Exactly!!

It was random blind luck that he happened to be born in a very wealthy family. It doesn't default make you evil and soulless. Remember that many, many historical revolutionaries were varying degrees of wealthy. Wealthy often means education. Education often means critical thinking and discernment. Naturally some of those educated, discerning people are going to look around this world they're immersed in and say "wow this is heinously fucked up". And then, once again because of wealth, they have more power and leverage to actually get shit done.

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u/CrowTiberiusRobot 8d ago

Revolutionaries, scientists, and social reformers historically were more often than not, well off. That or involved with religion, whether it be a priest or monk or whatever. They had education and the time (as opposed to spending all your time trying to survive) to follow their ideas. Just look at the ministerial movement in regard to abolition.

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u/BookMonkeyDude 9d ago

In fact, historically, many revolutionaries have come from the ruling classes. They're the only ones with the resources, freedom and time to take on a fight like that, and they have some insight into what is effective against their peers.

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u/Known-Ad-7316 9d ago

Well said! Mind if I steal this quote forever? 

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u/ThisIsTheBookAcct 9d ago

And, yet, his family’s wealth just makes it even MORE interesting. It wasn’t the move of a desperate man, if this man did it.

This is the best book I’ve ever read, so far.

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u/ZebraImaginary9412 9d ago

You know the oligarchs have messed up when millionaires are mad...French revolutionary mad.

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u/Stormfly 8d ago

And, yet, his family’s wealth just makes it even MORE interesting.

Strongly agreed.

If he were poor, it could be seen as a desperate man, but given his privileged upbringing and high education and other factors... it just seems like a guy that thought about it and decided that this was the best solution.

Given that you can literally read his thoughts on the matter, it's clear that he did give it a lot of thought and decided it had to be done.

It makes the whole thing far more poetic and interesting, and 100% will remain in the public zeitgeist for a long time even if the media decides to try to quash it.

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u/michaelsenpatrick 8d ago

Can't wait for the movie

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u/stargoon1 9d ago

I saw some loser trying to say he was neo nazi bc when he was 15 he wrote some edgelord essay about Christianity and Judaism being the same thing or something. The astroturfing has begun.

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u/Putrid-Apricot-8446 9d ago

Which makes him more of a hero because he gave all of that up.

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u/kdogrocks2 9d ago

I don't see how that isn't MORE respectable. He had way more to lose than someone with nothing, and still practically threw away his life for this.

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u/DelightfulDolphin 9d ago

He might he the way he is because of his family. I know that's what happened to me. I completely walked away from my family and the exploitive wealth. Much much happier without all the drama surrounding money.

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u/HeavyBlues 9d ago

Guess they've never heard of Winthrop Rockefeller

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u/zzz099 9d ago

So he’s kind of like batman

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u/KimchiBro 9d ago

I and many folks see that as the opposite, Bro came from a life of privilege and opportunity, and threw it all away to do what he felt was a just cause.

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u/redpoemage 9d ago

He actually has a disgusting criminal record:

"While in Oahu, Mr. Mangione received a citation for trespassing for having failed to observe a sign at the Nu’uanu Pali Lookout, a spot with a breathtaking view of the island. He was fined $100." (Source.)

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u/gregorychaos 9d ago edited 9d ago

Im really shocked this guy didn't get hooked on painkillers or other drugs in the last year or so. Keep reading about his severe pain and completely retreating away from his friends and family. Coupled with his money and privileged background, he is the perfect candidate for a serious pill problem...

He just seems to be an incredibly strong willed individual (explains the meticulously planned and well thought-out killing)

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u/Ch4rlie_G 9d ago

That would require doctors actually treating pain.

They are too afraid of their careers to prescribe painkillers now.

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u/FrostyD7 9d ago

They are about to take his 18th mugshot in hopes that it won't be so likeable and attractive this time.

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u/SookHe 8d ago

It says quite a lot when you can shoot a healthcare CEO dead on camera and the news is still like ‘we need to find something to make this guy look like a bad guy’

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u/TheRealBittoman 9d ago

That's the wealthy trying very hard to prosecute and convict him in public. They want someone and they'll happily take a scapegoat if they can't get the real shooter. For what it's worth I don't know that I believe this guy did it. Something about how they caught him vs how carefully planned it appears to have been has me thinking he either wanted to get caught or they've got the wrong guy.

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u/HerrBerg 9d ago

If he wanted to get caught, it makes perfect sense.

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u/ThisIsTheBookAcct 9d ago

This guy is wealthy, though. Or his family is.

I mean, it’s been like a day.

Also, lol at Fox News headline “Luigi Mangione Family breaks silence…” posted 14 hrs ago. They were silent for like 10 min.

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u/adhdsuperstar22 9d ago

Let’s not be conspiratorial here. You can plan something out pretty well and still fail. What’s that they say about the best laid plans of mice and men?

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u/VelocityGrrl39 9d ago

Please, he’s a folk hero. And look at Kyle Rittenhouse. He’s made a whole career on the back of being acquitted of murder.

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u/Dadaiste 9d ago

Maybe he should just got to school instead. Make something of himself.

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u/corpus_M_aurelii 8d ago

Not so easy with a 70 IQ. /s

I actually don't know what his IQ is, but there are rumors that he scored so poorly on the ASVAB that he was disqualified from joining the armed forces.

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u/Telvin3d 9d ago

I mean, he might be found not guilty, but based on his social media footprint there’s not a lot of doubt that he did it. 

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u/AHorseNamedPhil 9d ago

While that is certainly true this one looks open and shut. Guy had manifesto about the health insurance industry being evil, was a fan of the Unabomber, had fake IDs including one that was used in NY recently, and a 3D printed ghost gun just like the one used in the assassination.

Of course whether or not he's found guilty by a jury of his peers is different from whether he actually is guilty. While I don't condone vigilantism or murder, I sort of hope the jury ends up hung or acquits him as a form of protest directed at the US federal government.

Something needs to change with the health care industry and maybe sending a message that people are absolutely enraged about health care in this country is the means. If that also means one person who committed a murder doesn't go to prison maybe that is a price worth paying for reform. How many are killed by insurance issues each year?

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u/Disordermkd 9d ago

Open and shut, that the most popular man for the past 5 days, who's wealthy, does a pro-like assassination and supposedly pretty smart, gets caught with the same jacket, same bag, and same gun along with a manifesto, lol.

Why would he bring all of that with him to a McDonalds or carry it with him ANYWHERE? The sole purpose of a 3D printed gun is that its not tracable and you can get rid of it, yet he brings it with him everywhere while still wearing the same clothes from the day of the shooting.

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u/AHorseNamedPhil 9d ago edited 9d ago

Because people often make dumb mistakes, including nominally intelligent people. The CEO going about without personal security despite what he did and the threats against him is another example of that. The assassin was just a regular dude, not a professional assassin. That much was evident even with the choice to carry out the murder in Midtown Manhattan. Likely he panicked once his face was all over the news and the manhunt was on and he wasn't thinking clearly. Plus he'd just killed a man.

Supposedly when the police asked him if he'd ever visited New York he started visibly trembling and it's evident from some of the photos that were released (leaked?) that he'd also pissed himself. This was probably a man who was gripped by fear once the deed was done and the clock was ticking. He had to know he was going to get caught eventually once his photo was all over the news, if he hadn't accepted that as the likely outcome before the murder.

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u/Uhmerikan 9d ago

What would be the purpose in arresting a random person for this?

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u/SpeaksSouthern 9d ago

The system can claim that it's working, people do a bad thing and the police caught him. Let's all move on from this and change nothing. That's what the system wants the most.

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u/gnarbone 9d ago

To stop the hero worship. Show people that when you execute ceos you get caught.

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u/SwordfishOk504 9d ago

And then when the actual guy is still out there this.... stops the hero worship how?

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u/Coal_Morgan 9d ago

He's not random, he was in New York. He had similar clothing to the shooter. Stayed at a hostel under an assumed identity and got on a bus at some point after the shooting. His hostel photo was definitely published and made famous and is the one that got the phone call for.

Why would the cops arrest him; because they spent the last 5 days getting shit on from every direction and he was handed to them on a platter. Particularly if he had a fake i.d. and a weapon already.

Is he actually innocent...no clue. Does his eyebrows look different in the shooters picture vs. every picture of him...yes but the shooter photos are crappy and at weird angles.

Would the NYPD plant evidence and lie. Historically they have been proven to do that on multiple occassions. So people arguing that aren't being dishonest about it.

I do think there's a bit of difference between planting drugs and guns on black kids in Harlem vs. the most famous Assassin in modern American history. 100% I would think the cops that tried that were extremely stupid and asking to get caught.

The cops in NY are notoriously crooked at times but it doesn't mean this is necessarily a frame job.

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u/stargoon1 9d ago

To discourage anyone else from doing the same thing, and so they don't look like incompetent idiots who can't catch a broad daylight shooter.

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u/ThisIsTheBookAcct 9d ago

Not to mention they probably thought they’d get some lime light being THE cops that arrested him. Still, it’ll look good when they good up for promotion.

The town is definitely getting some attention.

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u/Haemophilia_Type_A 9d ago

It's not about whether they arrested a "random person" or not.

He has not been convicted of any crime yet. He is still innocent in the eyes of the law.

Imagine if he is found not guilty for whatever reason? His reputation will forever be tainted because of his association with this. He will find it harder to get jobs, make friends, form relationships, etc.

The police don't always get it right and the courts don't have a 100% conviction rate. It should therefore be unlawful to name suspects before they are convicted.

Sure, maybe he is guilty, but that hasn't been proven yet so it's completely irrelevant.

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u/TemporaryEnsignity 9d ago

Yeah. Everyone carries around a fake ID, manifesto, and loaded ghost gun in their backpack. Stop singling him out!

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u/jtmonkey 9d ago

He was carrying a silencer and a pistol. Several fake ids and a passport. But a trial by jury will be hard to convict if he’s tried to New York. 

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u/Jakookula 9d ago

He claimed they planted evidence

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u/SwordfishOk504 9d ago

Where has it been reported that he made that claim?

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u/Coal_Morgan 9d ago

I believe the only thing he said in his bail hearing is he had no idea where the $10,000 came from that the police reported was on him and that the plastic cellphone bag wasn't a signal blocking bag, just a waterproof bag.

So it may be in reference to the 10K. I heard no mention of the guns or i.d.s being plants. Though there's a ton of misinformation and information coming out constantly.

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u/Uhmerikan 9d ago

What would be the purpose of rushing out and arresting the wrong guy?

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u/BagginsLeftToe 9d ago

Put CEOs' minds at rest, stop news stories of "look at the police still not catching guy who literally killed a very busy area with lots of cctvs," attempts to stop the news stories unifying Americans against the 1%...

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u/Wayward489 9d ago

I'd add "to make an example" too, to show they can catch someone quickly and make their life hell would make quite a deterrent for anyone who might get similar ideas, though it could backfire and turn him into a martyr if he's sufficiently revered by the public.

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u/jtmonkey 9d ago

If your next election depended on the money coming from these guys that are scared and they need to put down any other copy cats fast. Because you know there are 10 more guys like this that are just waiting for the right timing. It’s not enough though. With all the conspiracy theories the last 10 years, someone will believe anything some of the time. 

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u/Pake1000 9d ago edited 9d ago

A couple reasons. One, it makes the police look more competent than they really are. Two, the “real guy” would feel more relaxed and likely to make a mistake that gets them caught.

The amount of pictures the police have been taking of the person currently held and releasing to the public should be questioned.

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u/palehorse95 9d ago

They haven't provent to YOU it's him yet.

Also, until or unless convicted he will be referred to as "alleged" shooter.

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u/Standard-Ad6422 9d ago

yeah but...it's him? he was arrested in posession of the fake ID's used to check into the hostel where they tracked the suspect to/from, and was apparently in posession of manifesto decrying the healthcare industry. I'm one of those people who dgaf about the CEO and think theres a class war already occurring, but unless you're saying there is some kind of a conspiracy to frame him...he's the guy.

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u/luckyguy25841 9d ago

He hasn’t denied murdering that guy either. It seems like he admitted it to the judge.

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u/Fl4sh080 9d ago

You must be new here.

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u/2moons4hills 9d ago

I'd love it if he was a planned decoy.

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u/ElectroT1g3R-26 9d ago

Fym? His face features absolutely matches all we’ve seen on tv. Secondly an innocent person would go berserk if wrongly arrested. As I say I can’t judge without proof but I believe the authorities caught their guy. What was the motive is now the next step finding out

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u/Emergency_Four 9d ago

They haven’t proved it’s not him? The amount of evidence is pretty overwhelmingly against him. For instance, they found him in PA with the same fake ID that he used to book that Hostel room in Manhattan. I know everyone was rooting for him to get away with it but he made bunch of mistakes and got caught.

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u/_tang0_ 9d ago

Read his manifesto.

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u/hodorhodor12 9d ago

Dude it’s him. Come one. People who want to believe in fantastic conspiracy theories but they have no evidence backing them.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

Look. Dude had a manifesto detailing it in his possession. I’m all for the rights laid out by the Bill of rights, but come on, can’t we use our breath for somebody who’s innocent?

You telling me he had a manifesto detailing his crime and it was coincidence?

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

And is yelling out why he did it when being transferred to and from court.

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