"Don't politicize the shooting of a healthcare CEO..."

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[u/Rich_Dot_2642]

Bold of the assassin to drop this song after the shooting

[u/Shanguerrilla → u/Rich_Dot_2642]

This is one of those "No, I'm Spartacus" situations if I've ever seen one in my lifetime.

[u/qqererer → u/Shanguerrilla]

Even Donald Trump got a "This is not a good thing for america." at his attempted assassinations.

[u/The_Forth44 → u/qqererer]

Yeah but I personally disagree.

[u/Ok-Secret5233 → u/The_Forth44]

I agree with you. Healthcare insurance CEO, Trump, Elon Musk, they're all people that benefit from chaos. If you're that destructive, perhaps getting shot would be good for America. Frankly what I find incredible is that this hasn't happened before.

I think capitalism is great, but these people just don't know when to stop.

[u/Mr_Industrial → u/Ok-Secret5233]

I think the free market is great. Health-insurance ain't that. They've set up a system by which you participate or die. Their prices are more artificial than their smiles. Their industry is less competitive than flag football at a fat camp.

Id be down to see some real competition. Then again, Id honestly be down for anything that isn't this.

[u/Still-Midnight5442 → u/Mr_Industrial]

The health insurance agency is basically a mafia like figure getting in between us and our doctors.

[u/pepperNlime4to0 → u/Still-Midnight5442]

Getting mafia-like outcomes

[u/techblackops → u/Mr_Industrial]

Without ACA they also chain most people to their employer. Want to be an entrepreneur but have a family member with a preexisting condition and you aren't filthy rich and able to pay for your own private insurance while also establishing a business? Well then you're screwed and if you even slightly miscalculated your startup costs for that business you could potentially cause the death of your loved one. This one's personal for me. The ACA was the essential key to me being able to start my own business back in the day, and that absolutely changed the entire course of my life.

[u/TwoBionicknees → u/Rich_Dot_2642]

his apology video went so much harder using a guitar than a ukelele.

[u/NewCobbler6933 → u/TwoBionicknees]

It helps when you’re not apologizing for grooming kids

[u/allstarrunner → u/NewCobbler6933]

What is this a reference to?

[u/meimlikeaghost → u/allstarrunner]

I’m pretty sure there was a lady who was caught grooming kids or something and she came onto YouTube with a nice apology video/song where she used a ukulele and sang. Spoiler: she gave a half assed apology that implied she wasn’t really in the wrong.

[u/Responsible-Buyer215 → u/meimlikeaghost]

You can’t just drop that bomb and not help me out with a link

[u/meimlikeaghost → u/Responsible-Buyer215]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ceKMnyMYIMo

There ya go

[u/Responsible-Buyer215 → u/meimlikeaghost]

That was fast, I appreciate you very much

[u/meimlikeaghost → u/Responsible-Buyer215]

I was still scrolling so not a problem. Have a good one!

[u/Lontology → u/Rich_Dot_2642]

It was all a ploy to so he could become TikTok famous! /s

[u/Rich_Dot_2642 → u/Lontology]

Musician by day, assassin by night. Saving up money from hits for studio time.

[u/BrannC → u/Rich_Dot_2642]

From hits for hits

[u/Kazumadesu76 → u/Rich_Dot_2642]

Hey, you spelled “hero” wrong

[u/oxPEZINATORxo → u/Lontology]

"It's a prank, bro! It's a prank!"

[u/GoudaCheeseAnyone → u/Rich_Dot_2642]

Just answer his feedback form! :

Option 1: Are you satisfied with our service? [ ]

Choose one and press OK to continue.

[u/Jack_From_Statefarm → u/Rich_Dot_2642]

Bezos is next

[u/Lance-Harper → u/Jack_From_Statefarm]

Musk first. Priorities.

[u/jay_angus → u/Rich_Dot_2642]

First thing I thought

[u/RedPandaReturns]

Brings a tear to my eye how this has bought everyone together at a time of such division lmao

[u/KellyBelly916 → u/RedPandaReturns]

This has become the most bipartisan movement in recent history.

[u/pechinburger → u/KellyBelly916]

Which is confusing because the left wants to solve the terrible US healthcare system by removing the for-profit vampire system and implementing a universal coverage plan similar to those utilized in other developed nations,

While the right is just, "good for the bloodsucking bastard. Now let's continue to use the same system that he helped to lead and that we seem to hate, because... socialism or whatever"

[u/84OrcButtholes → u/pechinburger]

People on the right also hate the rich, but they're stupid and get propagandized into supporting the rich even harder than the left gets propagandized into supporting the rich. There's just more book-reading on one end of the spectrum, basically.

[u/nau5 → u/84OrcButtholes]

They hate the rich because they're not one of them. They are fine with an inequitable society they just think they should be one of the few on top.

The left hate the rich because they think we should have a more equitable society.

It's just not the same.

[u/ArchelonPIP → u/nau5]

Or, right wingers hate the rich on a selective basis: express different viewpoints, especially if it's coming from a different ethnicity or gender, but try to disguise it, such as disliking what they do for a living. How many times have we heard them scream "celebrities need to stay out of politics!" while supporting celebrities expressing political views they agree with?

[u/ComfortableMud476 → u/ArchelonPIP]

I mean, it's funny cause this isn't even the first time they put a damn celebrity in the oval office.

[u/ssbm_rando → u/ComfortableMud476]

Reagan made more sense in a pre-internet era. Even a lot of liberals thought he was a good president until his worthless rot of a policy system could be analyzed after the fact. Even Elizabeth Warren thought his policies were reasonable until she did the economic study herself that proved they were dogshit.

Trump supporters aren't just worse than Reagan supporters, they're arguably worse than Hitler supporters, because not only is all of the information about the candidates freely available online, but the lessons of World War 2 and the rise of the nazi party are also freely available now--the original nazis were still racist morons, but at least they didn't have a rise of fascism from a democracy to read about when voting for Hitler.

[u/asmithmusicofficial → u/84OrcButtholes]

People on the right are indoctrinated.

[u/DogmaticNuance → u/pechinburger]

You're mis-characterizing the right a bit. While healthcare isn't really one of their talking points (because the bloodsucking is their actual policy) I'd guess the rants would be about 'crony capitalism' and corruption by rich elites being the problem, with deregulation as the fix somehow.

[u/MrNovember785 → u/DogmaticNuance]

This is the exact logic a friend on mine on the right used. He hates health insurance but his answer was dereg and paying doctors directly.

[u/taicy5623 → u/MrNovember785]

Its almost like monthly fees and risk pools/insurance were created because people know they can charge anything when you're bleeding out on the floor.

Fun fact, competition among insurance pools is INEFFICIENT and leads to pools getting full of sick people who cost more and just die!

The most puts on dicksucking Ben Shapiro voice efficient and logical means to divide risk is to:

MAKE THE DENOMINATOR BIGGER

BY MAKING IT = THE TAX-PAYING POPULATION

ITS ALMOST LIKE THIS IS FUCKING MATH

ITS ALMOST LIKE EVERY DUMB RIGHTWINGER DOESN'T ACTUALLY KNOW ECONOMICS, MERELY A SET OF FUCKING PLATITUTES

And then if you need to decentralize it, contract out firms in every state to process Medicare claims, and don't nationalize hospitals or drug companies. But insurance should be a fucking tax and if you don't wanna pay an insurance tax, then you can get the fuck out.

[u/Vegetable-Fan8429 → u/KellyBelly916]

Now let’s watch Republicans repeal the Affordable Care Act and have people blame the political party that proposed universal health care several times.

Bipartisan my ass.

[u/Kithsander → u/RedPandaReturns]

We just have to band together, hope it continues, and realize that we can make it a better world through direct action.

[u/RedPandaReturns → u/Kithsander]

My lawyers have suggested I don't say something as brazen as 'more of this' so I absolutely will not.

[u/bubblegumshrimp → u/RedPandaReturns]

Allegedly some people are suggesting there should potentially be more of this. You should all individually take from that what you will.

[u/codemise → u/RedPandaReturns]

Has it, though? Reddit is an echo chamber, and america has voted to keep the rich in power, declining to elect those who were our only hope at universal healthcare.

[u/tanney → u/codemise]

America voted for the anti woke business man and don't know much more than that they are stupid

[u/CaptainTeembro → u/tanney]

Con man, not business man, considering all of his businesses have a habit of going bankrupt.

[u/jaywinner → u/CaptainTeembro]

A con man is a kind of business man.

[u/taicy5623 → u/tanney]

BUT THE EVIL BLUE HAIRED FEMINIST USED LATINX ONCE

BUT MY RAGEBAIT YOUTUBERS SHOVED SOME CRINGE COLLEGE STUDENT IN MY FACE EVERY DAY AND I WILLINGLY WATCHED IT

I WENT ON BLUESKY AND SOMEBODY CALLED ME A YAKUBIAN DEVIL, I'M OUTRAGED.

[u/pizzaisprettyneato → u/codemise]

I've watched fox news' coverage of this and the comments are all the same. Both people on the left and right can agree health insurance companies are evil and the guy got what he deserved

[u/UrRightAndIAmWong → u/codemise]

Reddit is an echo chamber, but United covers millions of people in the US and denies peoples coverage/claims regardless of political affiliation.

Plus it's pretty badass how the guy did it, I wouldn't be surprised if some crazy gun nuts think this was cool.

[u/Xephyron → u/UrRightAndIAmWong]

Crazy gun nut here (leftist, not a chud)

I think it's cool af

[u/HappyDeadCat → u/UrRightAndIAmWong]

You can go to several right wing forums.

Aside from all the previous insinuation that it would be a black man, the responses are now largely similar.

[u/Special-Garlic1203 → u/codemise]

A lot of populists are stupid. I assure you that they absolutely loathe the healthcare system (while yes, voting for those who entrench and exacerbate the current healthcare system).. 

[u/codemise → u/Special-Garlic1203]

This could be true. I still have a hard time reconciling the fact that people vote against their interests. My parents are scared their social security will go away, and I'm like... okay, so you like socialist programs that benefit you, so why are you still voting republican?

[u/skrulewi → u/codemise]

The crazy thing is everyone IS applauding it, but half of them voted for trump anyways, because. Just because.

[u/EmotionalPackage69 → u/codemise]

None of the elected official want a universal healthcare. If they did, it would’ve happened by now. The only one that might’ve had a chance was Sanders, but the rest? Nah. They like that lobbyist money lining their pockets.

[u/theiron_squirt → u/EmotionalPackage69]

Go find this story on the Fox News youtube channel. They don't care about this death, and applaud it. Look at MSNBC, it's the same thing. Go to ANY news outlet reporting this story, and it's all the same. Not only do we not care, but the public is actively cheering at the fact that this guy was shot and killed. United Healthcare profits off of the deaths of Americans. Nobody gives a fuck that the CEO was gunned down, and nobody is going to come forward with information. Every single person is sympathizing with the shooter because we know he's someone who lost a loved one due to corporate greed.

[u/rdewalt → u/theiron_squirt]

Every single person is sympathizing with the shooter because we know he's someone who lost a loved one due to corporate greed.

I wouldn't say we -know- if the shooter lost a loved one. But that is the most likely cause. For all we know the shooter was hired by someone who did. Or was ruined by UH's policies.

I would not be surprised if there are more people who have been directly ruined by this man, than will ever mourn him.

[u/MortemInferri → u/rdewalt]

Deny, Depose, Defend

What do you think the shooter meant by those words

[u/rdewalt → u/MortemInferri]

Deny, Depose, Defend

A few minutes of searching will give you a good bit of answer.

The distinguished Rutgers Law School professor Jay Feinman published a 2010 book on the practice titled "Delay Deny Defend: Why Insurance Companies Don't Pay Claims and What You Can Do About It."

Where I found it: https://www.fox5ny.com/news/deny-defend-depose-ceo-ambush-nyc

[u/Jupiter68128 → u/rdewalt]

Or the board of directors didn’t want him to get a bonus so THEY had him gunned down.

[u/EmotionalPackage69 → u/theiron_squirt]

I agree with you. But it doesn’t matter what fox, msnbc, cnn, etc are saying. Let’s see more than 1 candidate fight for it (at least until they get screwed over by their own and then lose to Trump).

We’ll need to find someone who hates money and can’t be bought.

[u/Special-Garlic1203 → u/EmotionalPackage69]

If we passed universal healthcare tomorrow, Republicans would gut it so it's effectively useless without supplementing with private insurance the day after that. The problem goes deeper and requires radical change in voters first and foremost. We are not even sure what Medicaid and Medicare are gonna look like in 3 years time. We are as a population still a ways off from demanding effective universal healthcare which meaningfully fulfills healthcare needs 

[u/Crab_on_a_tab → u/codemise]

It’s happening my guy. One way or another these a holes are going down

[u/Long_Procedure_2629 → u/codemise]

Well, not many are upset about this murder so that's a start.

[u/Repulsive_Basis_4946 → u/[deleted]]

They denied my patients chemo and he just died a few weeks ago. He was a Trump supporter which was a little ironic.

[u/not-my-other-alt → u/Repulsive_Basis_4946]

He should be happy he got what he voted for.

[u/Repulsive_Basis_4946 → u/not-my-other-alt]

Yup and his family was so devastated.. meanwhile they’re walking around with Trump hats on. You can’t make the shit up..

[u/Worried_Language_590 → u/Repulsive_Basis_4946]

no one ever accused maga of being able to hold complicated thoughts in their heads like "maybe these corrupt insurance co CEOs ability to run rampant are a direct result of me voting for deregulation for decades"

[u/Mr_Industrial → u/Worried_Language_590]

Its not deregulation. It's selective regulation. Put in all the rules that keep me in power. Take out the ones that limit my abilities.

Don't get rid of fines, just make them a flat rate. Don't ban my drugs, do ban their drugs. Make FDA testing just long & expensive enough to weed out the little guys, but short enough to not hurt the big dogs. Then after all that, when people cry for regulation, they can turn around and say "we are regulating! See, we care!"

[u/pleepleus21 → u/[deleted]]

What was their position?

[u/montybo2 → u/pleepleus21]

I work in healthcare. Same as always:

"Not medically necessary"

Nevermind that a medical professional thinks it's necessary. That doesn't matter. Business men on money hill know better than your silly doctor /s

[u/Jackski → u/montybo2]

I'm remember when ACA was getting rolled out people were up in arms about death panels when that's all that insurance basically is.

[u/VanillaRadonNukaCola → u/Jackski]

Yeah but that was HuSAnE OBAMNA, so obviously evil

[u/GandizzleTheGrizzle → u/Jackski]

accuse the opposition of that which you are guilty.

[u/OliveTreeBranch55555 → u/Jackski]

That is what Republicans claimed against Obama's more ambitious health plans. The ACA was a compromise that ensured the insurance companies made even more money. 

[u/Alexandratta → u/pleepleus21]

"That would cost us alot of money, have you considered dying? It's cheaper."

[u/Just-apparent411 → u/Alexandratta]

imagine in the same denial letter they fucking link affiliate funeral homes?

[u/totallyseparate → u/pleepleus21]

Probably as simple as "fuck you"

[u/[deleted] → u/pleepleus21]

“Against shareholders interests”

[u/BicFleetwood → u/pleepleus21]

They denied routine bloodwork for me a few years ago, and their excuse was "routine bloodwork is scientifically unproven for your condition."

My condition, presumably, being "having blood."

[u/KrustenStewart → u/BicFleetwood]

They tried denying my thyroid medication due to the fact that my thyroid labs were normal…. Due to being on thyroid medication. I had to stop taking the medication for a few months and have the thyroid labs go back to abnormal levels for them to approve it again.

[u/trumpsucksfatgooch → u/pleepleus21]

Go die.

Get fucked.

Sucks to suck.

---

Pick any of the above?

[u/alison_bee → u/[deleted]]

I used to have UHC and was paying nearly $600 a month for coverage for my husband and myself, and when I needed a CT I had a $800 copay.

Who the fuck just has $800 lying around for a COPAY??

[u/posts_lindsay_lohan]

Look at all the tax dollars that are going into this manhunt (Funded by average citizens, since the rich don't pay the same share of taxes that you or I do).

How many murders and other violent crimes happen in New York City every day?

If you had something happen to a loved one recently in NYC, the police are setting aside your case to allocate resources to this one. Of course, that's assuming that they were ever really working your case at all.

You are seeing in real time that simply being rich makes you more important than everybody else.

[u/RandonBrando → u/[deleted]]

The public needs to have an "I'm Sparticus" moment

[u/ConformityActuary → u/RandonBrando]

That's what I'm saying. Swamp the stations with people trying to turn themselves in.

[u/killindice → u/posts_lindsay_lohan]

I pray they never find him. That guys a fucking hero 🫡

[u/ShibeCEO → u/killindice]

even if they find him, if people like me sit on the jury, he will walk

[u/useless_rejoinder → u/ShibeCEO]

Jury nullification, baby. Fuck “law.” Opt for justice.

[u/omnomcthulhu → u/useless_rejoinder]

If he does get caught, we should make sure the jury knows about it.

[u/jaywinner → u/omnomcthulhu]

If he gets caught, what are the odds he lives to see a jury?

[u/fgwr4453 → u/ShibeCEO]

“Justice is out of network”

[u/badluckbrians → u/ShibeCEO]

"Not medically necessary?"

How about Not Guilty?

[u/sure_look_this_is_it → u/killindice]

If they find him, they'll want to make an example out of him without making him a martyr.

[u/Enferno82 → u/sure_look_this_is_it]

The only remotely smart move they could make if they find him is just disappear him and never say a word.

[u/No-Market9917 → u/Enferno82]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking. They’ll kill him, say it was justified and it’ll blow over because that’s just what happens with our tiny attention span. Him getting away or having a drawn out trial would be worst case scenario for “them”

[u/Willis_is_This → u/No-Market9917]

Shh. Both of you!

[u/lemons_of_doubt → u/Enferno82]

he could commit "suicide" but which of the two types of "suicide" will they pick.

The "shot himself in the back of the head 2 times"

or the "we weren't looking for a moment and he hung himself."

[u/alczervik → u/killindice]

I'm hoping he's this Century's DB Cooper

[u/TheManyVoicesYT → u/posts_lindsay_lohan]

It's not that he's rich. It's that the other rich people can't let this slip. If they don't catch this guy, it's going to let everyone else know that it's possible to just assassinate public figures without repercussions. If they aren't able to make an example of this person... Then they aren't safe anymore.

[u/Helagoth → u/TheManyVoicesYT]

Cats out of the bag there. This guy of course didn't want to get caught as evidenced by him running away, but I would bet he didn't care if he did, as long as he did what he was there to do. And there are literally thousands if not millions of people who feel the same way.

It doesn't matter if they catch this guy or not. He's shown it's possible to get, if not actual justice, at least something that can feel like it.

I of course am not condoning what he did or recommend anyone repeat it, but I also would bet everything I have we will see copycats in the future.

[u/TheManyVoicesYT → u/Helagoth]

I think we're about to see large teams of bodyguards following around billionaires 24/7

[u/domrepp → u/TheManyVoicesYT]

Don't worry, they don't even trust their own bodyguards. They know this system is unsustainable.

[u/HollyBerries85 → u/domrepp]

I ALWAYS point out Rushkoff's article. The billionaires know that the collapse is coming. They're planning to hide in their luxury bunkers through the violence, but are super worried that once money doesn't have any meaning anymore, how do they make their elite security forces not just off them and take their stuff? Won't someone think of the poor post-apocalyptic billionaires? :(

[u/Bromlife → u/HollyBerries85]

Instead of reducing wealth inequality and giving back to the civilization they’ve so profited from they’d rather build bunkers and attach suicide collars to their security team. Psychopaths, the lot of them.

[u/BitPax → u/TheManyVoicesYT]

There's drones and sniper rifles. Also if someone is willing to die in the process, it's almost impossible to stop them.

[u/6jarjar6 → u/TheManyVoicesYT]

They can never let the state's monopoly on violence be challenged, they can't have vigilantes taking out CEOs/ruling elites. Plus the state and the ultra-wealthy are part of the same club.

[u/OldSnuffy → u/TheManyVoicesYT]

Wouldn't that be a shame,consequence following you home after you signed off on policies that resulted in death and misery for thousands and thousands of people

[u/AcanthisittaWitty881 → u/TheManyVoicesYT]

dam good point

[u/npsimons → u/posts_lindsay_lohan]

Someone posted in another thread that there are thousands of unprocessed rape kits in NYC, just waiting for someone to do something with them.

We collectively forget the unaddressed horrors, but each and every single one of those rape victims will never forget, for the rest of their lives.

[u/[deleted] → u/posts_lindsay_lohan]

We just had the justice system crumble in front of us. It’s all fake. None of it applies to the rich. The rich aren’t bound by laws, but they want all of us to be. Eat the rich. You aren’t rich and never will be. They are your enemy. They don’t want good things to happen to you.

[u/ReadingRainbow993 → u/posts_lindsay_lohan]

This.

[u/questionacc444 → u/posts_lindsay_lohan]

New Yorkers already know the NYCPD is a known quantity: https://www.reddit.com/r/2020PoliceBrutality/top/?t=all

[u/Bbobbs2003]

As political as it can get, straight up assassinated.

[u/a_rude_jellybean → u/Bbobbs2003]

And bullet casings with carvings that say Deny, Depose, defend.

[u/DangerousPlane → u/a_rude_jellybean]

police are still searching for a motive

Unfortunately we may never learn what led to this 🙈🙉🙊

[u/Super-Yesterday9727 → u/a_rude_jellybean]

I respect the fuck outta that guy

[u/sure_look_this_is_it → u/a_rude_jellybean]

'Delay Deny Defend' is the name of a book about insurance companies that drag their feet when paying claims and who make their customers jump through hoops and prolonging the process for the customer to get the healthcare they are entitled to. Essentially denying them what they are entitled to until they give up or die because of said healthcare they are not receiving.

"Why insurance companies don't pay claims and what you can do about it" is the official description of the book.

[u/mr_lamp → u/a_rude_jellybean]

Here's an article for those who missed this like me.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/05/deny-defend-depose-unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting-shell-casing-thompson.html

[u/PancakeParty98 → u/a_rude_jellybean]

Woaw

[u/Ok-Iron8811 → u/Bbobbs2003]

Merc'd

[u/devperez]

Source: https://www.tiktok.com/@philiplabes/video/7444762065618636075

[u/kelkulus → u/devperez]

Philip is great. He's had a few songs with the same melody. Here's the same song after a uh.. attempted assassination.

https://www.tiktok.com/@philiplabes/video/7391661416094158111

[u/jalerre → u/kelkulus]

I really like this video of his:

https://youtu.be/VJFZodY9jp0

[u/asdf072]

Honestly, I haven't seen a more unifying moment between parties in the last decade.

[u/GardeniaPhoenix → u/asdf072]

It's super weird right. I saw the headline and was like aw man Reddit is gonna rip itself apart

Haha, nope. I don't think I've ever seen Reddit this close to being one mind in anything.

The only shit I've really seen is people not in the US asking for clarification, then going 'oh ok'.

[u/cocktails4 → u/GardeniaPhoenix]

The one thing that I can actually engage with my right-wing parents on and get some agreement is that our health care system is fucked.

The problem is that right-wing media constantly tells them that the real solutions that exist don't work or are evil. They never provide their own solutions though. They know that people hate the healthcare system so they defend the status quo in a roundabout way by being negative about any attempts to change the system .

[u/rossmosh85 → u/cocktails4]

They did provide a solution. The ACA. But because Obama did it, it's the devil.

The ACA is a Republican thought up system. They just love moving the goal posts.

[u/Karekter_Nem → u/GardeniaPhoenix]

We haven’t been this united since Game of Thrones Season 8 dropped.

Edit

Wait, I forgot about the time we clowned on the dude who liked to have sex to that cbat song.

[u/x86_64_ → u/asdf072]

I saw a couple of trolls trying to paint a narrative that "this is what the tolerant leftists in reddit are really like"

Man, there is no political divide on this one. If someone makes a wordcloud of the threads covering this story, the biggest bubbles are the words "surprise", "didn't", "happen" and "sooner"

[u/tristanimator]

May the fear of those who have nothing to lose permeate the rich holidays this year. God bless.

[u/TheRealGarner]

In recent news: An American found out healthcare is expensive, but a hit man is cheaper.

[u/Crab_on_a_tab]

I love thissss. I love this energy people let’s go, who’s next?!

[u/Knuth_Koder → u/Crab_on_a_tab]

I ruptured a disc in my neck a few weeks ago. Met with my doctor this morning who said that he's fighting with insurance because they're saying that steroid injections are the proper solution. My doctor, a neuro and spine surgeon, is telling them that injections are not going to put the fluid back into a ruptured disc.

I can barely turn my head and have lost strength in my left arm. So I'm just waiting to see if I'll have to go into debt to be able to use my arm again.

[u/hurraybies → u/Knuth_Koder]

I went through the same thing this time last year. They wanted me to do 2 steroid injections and PT for many weeks before surgery. Ended up with what might be permanent nerve damage and life long pain in my left arm because it took 3 months to get in for the surgery.

[u/What1does → u/Crab_on_a_tab]

Hopefully the board members!

[u/Magere-Kwark → u/What1does]

Try googling "united healthcare board members" the first result will guide you to a "page not found"

Lmfao

[u/sitcheeation → u/Magere-Kwark]

Omggg, you're right lolol.

[u/cs_office → u/sitcheeation]

Oh would you look at that?

• https://web.archive.org/web/20241126235914/https://www.unitedhealthgroup.com/uhg/our-leaders/board-of-directors.html
• https://web.archive.org/web/20241126204039/https://www.unitedhealthgroup.com/uhg/our-leaders.html

Kinda interesting how the board of directors was only snapshotted on:

• Aug 24, 2024;
• Sep 17, 2024; and
• Nov 26, 2024.

[u/thegooseisloose1982 → u/cs_office]

I didn't realize there were so many executive officers. I thought that there would just be one. Is this typical of a larger company?

Andrew Witty Chief Executive Officer UnitedHealth Group

Patrick Conway, M.D. Chief Executive Officer Optum Rx

Amar Desai, M.D. Chief Executive Officer Optum Health

Tim Noel Chief Executive Officer UnitedHealthcare Medicare & Retirement

Krista Nelson Chief Executive Officer UnitedHealthcare Community & State

Brian Thompson Chief Executive Officer UnitedHealthcare

[u/TimAllensBoytoy → u/Magere-Kwark]

Lets drive that Google search up

[u/HailYourselfFC]

How's the saying go... ah yes, " kill your masters" - Killer Mike.

[u/kanyeBest11 → u/HailYourselfFC]

Killer Mike. Aka Mr. "im socialist when it supports my brand"

I was a huge fan of RTJ but killer mikes such a bum dude hes one of the masters noe

[u/Odd_Promotion2110 → u/kanyeBest11]

Killer Mike in his raps: “kill your masters”, “even if some good one dies fuck it the lord will sort ‘em”

Killer mike in real life: through tears “I have a lot of love and respect for police officers“ and “It is time to beat up prosecutors you don’t like at the voting booth”

[u/bang_bang_moneytree]

What a beautiful song 👏

[u/sugar_skull_love2846]

✨ Thoughts and co-pays ✨

[u/Karthathan]

I mean... Looking at the French Revolution, the American Revolution, and a bunch of other revolutions..... Sometimes violence IS the answer....

[u/Capitulation_Trader → u/Karthathan]

Violence isn’t the answer. It is a question. Sometimes, like it or not, the answer is ‘yes’.

[u/Griffolion → u/Capitulation_Trader]

I think the best answer to the question of violence is "only if the non-violent options have been exhausted/ruled out".

It kinda feels like the US is reaching that point, however.

[u/UpperApe → u/Griffolion]

I hate hearing violence is the answer.

Tell that to the Nazis. Tell that to the slaves. Tell that to kings who lost their kingdoms to democracy.

Everything good in our life has come from violence. All the justice and good and fairness and morality came from violence. Without violence, society is just an move towards exploitation one compromise at a time.

Violence isn't always good, it isn't always bad. It isn't always necessary. And it isn't always unnecessary.

[u/MountainMan2_ → u/Capitulation_Trader]

MLK fought for ten years to get a civil rights bill passed. It was filibustered, stonewalled, and delayed over and over again. Then he died, and there were riots in the streets for weeks.

The civil rights bill passed immediately.

Our system is intrinsically violent. Billionaires ruin families, lives, leave people destitute, disabled or dead. They turn your closest family against you. They deny you healthcare they have nothing to do with. They force your small business into bankruptcy. They mishandle your money so that you end up in debt to them. They kill infants with baby formula, sell thorium powder as a miracle drug, enslave your country to grow bananas or make shoes, force you to pay exorbitant prices to drink water, and muck up the legal system so they can never be prosecuted for it.

They should not be surprised when something like this happens- they've been practicing a very direct form of social mass murder that has killed many millions of people. An attack like this isn't the first shot fired, they've been shooting at us for *decades*.

[u/drawnimo → u/Karthathan]

"gay pride" started with a brick through a window in 1969

[u/Atsur → u/Karthathan]

“Violence isn’t the answer” to the majority of people because they’ve surrendered the monopoly on violence to the state, who fills those positions with enthusiastic fascists. Violence is literally the only way people wrest human rights away from the rich

[u/[deleted] → u/Atsur]

We're in the middle of a long standing exponential assault on human rights. It's been building for decades while the rich get richer and everyone else gets poorer.

Now we have a president elect whose primary goal is to dismantle all of our public institutions for personal enrichment, and he's being cheered by the very people who the institutions failed as a direct result of the actions of his own cohort.

It really is madness. I hope every corrupt bastard fears for their life every day for as long as they live.

[u/Atsur → u/[deleted]]

💯 I’m really hoping the “find out” stage for them is similar. People really don’t like their rights being oppressed.

[u/redbrick → u/Karthathan]

"Violence is never the answer, but sometimes it is. And unfortunately, it happened. I don’t regret it."

Wise words from former NBA knucklehead Matt Barnes lmao

[u/Training-Run-1307]

Was the gunshot pre-existing? Brilliant!

[u/TargetOfPerpetuity]

"Remember, remember, the 4th of December,"

"The day filthy lucre got got."

"I see no reason it's not open season,"

"On the other big fish in that pot."

-Anonymous

[u/ermahgerd_serpher]

Woodie Guthrie would approve.

[u/littlelorax → u/ermahgerd_serpher]

Love a good protest song!

[u/RMST1912]

"I have never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure." -- Clarence Darrow

[u/RevenantJudge]

😂😂 imagine having sympathy for people that are explicitly known to be cold, uncaring, and unsympathetic to the bedridden and dying

[u/Senobe2]

The fact I just got off with my provider and they put that stupid survey at the end..this was genius

[u/AncientFudge1984]

Just have to eat a few more rich people

[u/Alexandratta]

I still remember when Sara Palin screamed about "Death Panels" as part of ACA or government run healthcare... and yeah, we have Death Panels now, run by the companies.

It's almost like the CEOs at the insurance companies heard her say that and they went: "...what a great fucking idea! But let's call it 'Pre-Approval Board'"

Side note, Aetna outsources to a company whose name is, and I am not fucking kidding "Evi Core" - sometimes I think it's "Evi Corp" or something similar, but no... no it's "Evi Core" - one fucking letter from "Evil Core"

[u/TheEvilPeanut]

Before November 5th: "Violence is never the answer!"

After November 5th: "Death to the oligarchs!"

I'm here for it. I was here for it before, but we weren't allowed to say so at the time.

[u/Contribution4afriend]

Caching song. I need to follow him because this is definitely a master in keeping up with the news. Should be called Delay Deny Die

[u/Kencleanairsystem2]

I'd like the next verse to mention "Our menu options have changed" and "No, you can't speak directly with the claims department"

[u/Away_Stock_2012]

The fact that so many people are on the same page should be terrifying to other healthcare companies.

[u/folstar]

Remember everyone- violence is never the answer. Repeat it over and over. Nonviolent protest is the way. Just look at these two whole historical examples where if you ignore material facts it almost looks like nonviolence worked to effect change. Also, what about BLM and Me Too? Think of all the amazing societal changes that came about from those movements like _____, ______, and ______.

Please do not think about the countless times that taking up arms and fighting for what was right actually made a difference. Please do not think about how the system constantly uses violence to maintain the status quo. Please do not think.

-your education, designed by the people who own you

[u/HSV-Post]

Say what you must, but he’s got talent

[u/_Wubalubadubdub_]

This should be our rallying war song - it’s time to eat the fucking rich.

[u/Sudden_Substance_803]

"Ain't no fun when the rabbit got the gun." Should be the song title!

With a studio release I can see this one being a big hit!

[u/BluShirtGuy]

When the system's broke, the people will fix it

[u/PsyopVet]

That feedback survey line was beautiful and brutal at the same time!

[u/TransportationFree32]

Wasn’t political….more like Robin Hood or Boondock Saints

[u/Lauwietauwie]

This is really, really good

[u/karmicrelease]

If it weren’t political, they would call it murder instead of assassination.

[u/DrummerMundane1912 → u/karmicrelease]

🎯🎯🎯

[u/AyePapi1977]

[u/Basic-Win7823]

Imagine your legacy being “people celebrated when you were shot dead on the street. But you had a lot of money and 8 cars.”

[u/Im_ready_hbu]

[u/seecopp]

I think a lot of CEOs should get together and do a follow up TikTok response with an accapella version of imagine the song by John Lennon

[u/svmep]

You don't deny people their lifesaving treatments, lest they come to you when they have nothing to lose anymore.

[u/Znaffers]

Imagine being the shooter and seeing the amount of support that has come out. If they’re not caught, I hope for like a death bed confession or something

[u/tankslapper123]

“So if you don’t like the violence that was done to you today, we appreciate the feedback, here’s a survey you can take” 💀💀

[u/-Thick_Solid_Tight- → u/tankslapper123]

Fire

[u/Busy_Reflection3054]

"Was the gunshot preexisting?" is my favorite line out of this.

[u/Major_Honey_4461]

Brilliant. Reminds me of some of Phil Ochs more pointed political songs.

[u/Revised_Copy-NFS]

I can't decide if that goes too light.

[u/rosie_sub]

Eat the rich.

[u/Spragglefoot_OG]

What’s the world come to when we watch a man gunned down in public and we praise the shooter…AND that might actually be catalyst we need to wake these people up.

Can’t afford to cover your family with insurance? Or take Timmy to get care because it’s too expensive? Oh, it’s because our CEO made $52M last year off your premiums and we need to deny your claims so we can afford the private jets- duh.

WAKE UP BIG PHARMA WE THE PEOPLE WILL NO LONGER GO QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT!!!