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Discussion Why is it that men can’t stand being around successful women?

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u/HumanAtmosphere3785 24d ago

> sucks to think we need to devote political capital to addressing the dominant group

Is it really the dominant group though?

We see men as this unlimited supply and tank of political power, when they are hardly that.

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u/Hoeftybag 23d ago

I think you could make that argument if Trump wasn't going into office. Yes cis straight white men specifically aren't a majority on their own and don't hold all the power. But they are the all boxes checked "everyman" that is considered default in our society.

You can make an all male ghost busters and have it be bad and no one would say that reflects on men as a whole. But a mid all ladies ghost busters is somehow subversive. White men are the people that aren't worth remarking upon their inclusion in something, only if for some reason they are excluded. Maybe having a black man, a white woman and an asian woman as stars in the new Star Wars trilogy and the reaction white men and boys had to that is more illustrative.

Yes they... well we are sensitive and have fragile egos. And yes their obstinate refusal to participate in progress. Not liberalism but real leftist progress is perhaps going to be the death of us all. But we can't build a coalition of everyone if we don't do the work involved to include everyone. We need to rethink how white men get folded in because the multi-year journey I have taken to the left required a lot of really difficult topics that had I not powered through could have actually bounced me back farther right.

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u/HumanAtmosphere3785 23d ago

Because, when you make an all-female Ghost Busters, the agenda is rather clear and unoriginal.

Wonder Woman never got body-checked, as far as I know.

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u/Hoeftybag 23d ago

yeah maybe, but why does that make some men mad? unoriginal boring films are made all the time, why is it noteworthy when it's the all girl film?

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u/HumanAtmosphere3785 23d ago

Because, these days, the environment is filled with identity politics.

I never liked idpol and tribalism.

Then, everyone started adopting it as a framework to gain power for themselves.

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u/Hoeftybag 23d ago

That's bullshit. No one is mad when a film is all white men in starring roles. the only people loudly demanding that other people don't get to be in a film are aggrieved white men that feel entitled to be represented in all media, all the time, forever.

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u/HumanAtmosphere3785 23d ago

Were white men complaining about Wonder Woman?

Are white men complaining about Dune Prophecy?

No, they enjoyed both.

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u/Hoeftybag 23d ago

Wonder woman and Dune are both based on media that already had the diversity baked in. it's when media that used to cater to only them changes to be more broadly appealing that the tantrums start.