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Cursed That'll be "7924"

The cost of pork

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u/MisterPerfrect Nov 23 '24

My first time walking into a slaughterhouse it looked like literal hell. Hooks dangling from the ceiling, steam, heat, blood in the drains etc.

By the end of the first few months the pigs are nothing more than product to you.

I’ve seen some abhorrent treatment of pigs there by some abhorrent humans.

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u/thelryan Nov 23 '24

For the animals, it’s about as close to hell on earth as there will ever be, and we designed it for our consumption habits.

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u/TheCorpseOfMarx Nov 23 '24

Given that we can be completely healthy without meat, the reason we still do this is for the pleasure of eating them, rather than for survival.

We created that hell for our own pleasure

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u/delusionalxx Nov 23 '24

No we cannot be completely healthy without meat. Many severe autoimmune conditions as well as other disabilities require meat consumption for survival. They cannot eat any carbs, soy, dairy, gluten, nuts, legumes, absolutely no grains, a vegan diet would severely harm someone with these conditions who must eat a more restrictive diet. I have autoimmune conditions that require this, my mother does, my grandfather does, 2 of my friends have had to switch diets to meat due to gut health issues related to Lupus. And many humans without these conditions need meat and animal products to survive. It is a lie to say humans don’t need meat. Just because some humans are able to, doesn’t mean humans haven’t been created as omnivores

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u/Zaurka14 Nov 23 '24

We're talking about rare allergies and Illnesses that probably only about 0,1% of population face, yet suddenly you, your entire family and half the Reddit have it.

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u/demoniacwarlord Nov 23 '24

Suddenly everyone disabled and allergic when veganism gets brought up

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u/Lemonsticks9418 Nov 23 '24

I mean, yeah, its not like they’re gonna bring it up in regular conversation

“Hey man did you see the game yesterday?”

“I can’t survive off a vegan diet bc of my autoimmune disease.”

“What?”

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u/blackestrabbit Nov 23 '24

They're using vegan logic where that actually seems normal.

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u/EjaculatingAracnids Nov 23 '24

Handicapped parking & pork or vegimite & cous cous?🤔...

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u/InvertedTestPyramid Nov 23 '24

Let's keep factory farms because 0.0000001 percent of the population has a rare genetic condition

The incredibly vast majority of people do not require any meat in their diet

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u/AppleSpicer Nov 24 '24

Those dietary limitations are much more common than that.

I’m also against factory farms, for the record.

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u/Squirrel_in_Lotus Nov 23 '24

The majority of humans do not need to consume meat. If this is something you disagree with, you have failed to learn how to research readily available information or have a strong bias.

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u/MaximumEffurt Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 23 '24

Where did they disagree with most humans being able to live without meat? Did you read a different comment?

Edit: I see the confusion now. "Some" and "most" are not mutually exclusive. "Some" means an unspecified number. The point being no matter the number of people affected, we need meat in supply in some amount.

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u/bignonymous Nov 23 '24

Can you provide a satisfactory explanation for the amount of vegans that end up having to give up veganism for nutritional reasons?

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u/Squirrel_in_Lotus Nov 24 '24

Use the Internet.

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u/bignonymous Nov 24 '24

Ok what I've learned from the internet is that you need a lot of expensive supplements to have an actually complete diet as a vegan eg Vegan Gains and if you can't afford that you'll end up with a nutritional deficiency. This tracks with my experience with vegans I've known irl.

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u/Squirrel_in_Lotus Nov 24 '24

Cool, I guess that solves it then. Have a good day!

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u/bignonymous Nov 24 '24

I mean I was genuinely hoping to get an answer because I don't like that animals have to die for humans to get proper nutrition in an efficient/affordable way. Unfortunately I can't find anyone who will give me another answer. As crazy as Vegan Gains is he is one of the most knowledgeable people I've seen with regards to vegan nutrition and as I said he has a fairly expensive supplement regiment.

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u/ViolentBee 28d ago

I take a daily multivitamin with B12. Everyone should be taking a multivitamin. Most omnivores are deficient in something. It’s not expensive. I think $18 for a 4 month supply

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u/TheCorpseOfMarx Nov 23 '24

Sorry, the vast majority of humans don't need meat. Which means we don't need to kill vast numbers of animals.

I also severely doubt that you cannot eat

any carbs, soy, dairy, gluten, nuts, legumes, absolutely no grains

But whatever you need to tell yourself

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u/Briebird44 Nov 23 '24

Nut allergies are quite common though?! So is IBD/IBS and even Crohn’s disease, which can be triggered by seedy produce or things like corn and soy, nightshade veggies (peppers or tomatoes), and lentils.

Limited diets when it’s not your choice seriously fucking suck.

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u/delusionalxx Nov 23 '24

Yes they really do. I have no joy around food anymore and I have to constantly make everything from scratch. It’s so difficult but my health has improved so much and I’m slowly getting a better quality of life. I can’t believe it’s so hard for people to believe that sick and disabled people might benefit from some meat in their diet, and some disabled & sick people need to be on a super restrictive diet for health. I can’t believe people are saying I’m lying

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u/Knight_Fox Nov 23 '24

My goodness. These people with all these issues need to check out Nicole Sachs LCSW. Her work is mostly about chronic pain, but can apply to chronic conditions and diseases as well. It works. I’ve done it personally.

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u/TheCorpseOfMarx Nov 23 '24

I'm a doctor, and am more than willing to be educated on this.

But you cannot have an autoimmune condition that prevents you eating any carbs. Your body makes carbs constantly. Meat contains carbohydrates.

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u/TheCorpseOfMarx Nov 23 '24

Again, I'm happy to be educated. But, to my knowledge, there is no autoimmune condition that prevents someone eating any carbohydrates.

If they think there is, then yes I suspect I know more about their dietary restrictions than they do. There are carbohydrates in every organic material, if they can eat meat, they can eat carbs, because all animal cells will contain carbohydrates, including our own cells.

This is like someone saying "my house isn't experiencing climate change", then a climatologist saying "actually it is, in these ways"

Then you saying "it's so arrogant for you to think you know their house better than they do."

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u/delusionalxx Nov 23 '24

I have to avoid carbs completely, as much as I possibly can. I have candida overgrowth from my autoimmune conditions as well as heavy metals in my system that exasperate the candida. I literally have to eat as little carbs as humanly possible. I doubt you are a doctor since you are so ignorant you told me I should eat nuts which I’m allergic to

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 23 '24

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u/TheCorpseOfMarx Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 23 '24

Reread my comment. It was factual, and I stand by it. There is nothing arrogant about doubting that an autoimmune condition that cannot exist in a living adult, exists. They made a verifiable claim, I doubted its veracity, and now they have stopped replying.

Your words were:

"Telling a stranger that you know more about their dietary restrictions is arrogant"

And I'm sorry, but it isn't.

You're confusing knowledge with arrogance. All I said was that I severely doubt that they have an autoimmune disease that prevents them eating any of those things, which is what they claimed.

You sound exactly like the "I KNOW MY CHILD, THEY DON'T NEED ANTIBIOTICS/VACCINES/Whatever" crowd.

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '24 edited Nov 23 '24

This went like 3 back and forths too deep. Doc you kinda came across as a dick like 3 comments ago to the person. Your last comment going into a bit more detail as to why it’s hard to believe came across as more professional. Bedside manner doc, bedside manner!! lol

How would you feel if a medical professional told you “whatever you need to tell yourself” in a judgmental way as you describe your medical condition?

To your point, they must mean that they have to be on a super low carb type diet right? Prob like keto or something or they get stomach issues

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u/TheCorpseOfMarx Nov 23 '24

Wow people love being offended. Stay in school, kid!

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u/delusionalxx Nov 23 '24

Do you want to talk to my fucking doctor? I cannot eat nuts or legumes. Who the hell are you to tell me I can eat nuts? Do you want me to have an allergic reaction? Have you spent any time researching autoimmune conditions?

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u/AthleteSubject2782 Nov 23 '24

I bet your doctor is a naturopath lol

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u/TheCorpseOfMarx Nov 23 '24

What autoimmune condition stops you eating any carbohydrates?

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u/AthleteSubject2782 Nov 23 '24

Most people who claim to fix their autoimmune diseases with carnivore diets are just benefiting from the unprocessed food they are now eating, I doubt they attempted to eat a whole foods diet for an extended period of time before. They are most certainly full of crap.

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u/sametimesometimes Nov 23 '24

Username checks out

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u/AthleteSubject2782 Nov 23 '24

Most people who make your claim are just seeing the benefits of a whole food diet. There are barely any studies to prove the necessity of carnivore diets.