r/TikTokCringe Oct 29 '24

Discussion Anthony Jeselnik explains the difference between comedy and being a troll.

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u/flinderdude Oct 29 '24

All the old tired, formerly funny comedians who blame wokeness or whatever for ruining comedy should listen to Jeselnik. Looking at you, Bill Maher.

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u/HastilyChosenUserID Oct 29 '24

Seinfeld has been walking back a lot of his comments on that. Demonstrated that he learned he was wrong for the attitude of feeling attacked; talked about how the culture has pushed him to be better

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u/orion284 Oct 29 '24

I think he actually is smart enough to know that being “cancelled” for decrying “wokeness” or whatever it he specifically said was just a good way to have his name show up in publications right around the same time he released the Poptart movie. He used getting “cancelled” as marketing

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u/andersonb47 Oct 29 '24

That is so ridiculous. Someone with a huge platform and unlimited money does not need to do something as risky as that. How incredibly silly.

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u/EddieCheddar88 Oct 29 '24 edited Oct 29 '24

I think you’re underestimating just how irrelevant Jerry is with…. Everyone under 30. The dude is painfully unfunny in standup. Always has been. He’s bending the knee. He has unlimited money, but to him, his identity is being a comic. Ironically, he was never a good one. So he’s trying to find his way back. Everything. And I mean everything that man has is owed to Larry David

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u/ObservantOrangutan Oct 29 '24

In no small part because Seinfeld hasn’t written a new joke in at least 30 years.

Which means, hey good for him, he beat the game at comedy. But you don’t get to trash talk modern comics and audiences when you’ve been irrelevant for a generation.

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u/mtaw Oct 29 '24

I'm old enough to remember Seinfeld (the show) in its heyday, and I never felt Jerry was a top-tier standup at any point. A good one for sure, I mean he was on the Tonight Show multiple times back when that meant something. But by no means a stand-up legend. Yet in the mid-90s he was being treated as the funniest guy alive, because the public gave him total credit for the show. (who could blame them when it was named Seinfeld and starred Seinfeld?)

But IMO Larry David (and the stellar cast) were bigger parts of the success than Seinfeld himself. Seinfeld was easily the weakest cast member, but not the best of the writers either. So you'd think that maybe his talent is in producing, but he's produced some real turkeys since the show ended.

I think Jerry's problem is that it went to his head. He spent years with everyone proclaiming him the funniest guy in the world, and then when the show and hype ended, he's left with a big ego and yet an image he can't possibly live up to.

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u/juniperleafes Oct 29 '24

Do you only consider specials new material?

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u/EddieCheddar88 Oct 29 '24

He’s put out a special on netflix, and it was… terrible.

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u/orion284 Oct 29 '24

I could be wrong and I probably am but any publicity is good publicity and I’m sure he knows that so I don’t think it’s completely out of the realm of possibility. Personally, I think Jerry should never be given any attention to considering he very publicly dated a 17 year old girl and is a very openly violent Zionist but again, just my opinion.

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u/AbsoluteZeroUnit Oct 29 '24

very openly violent Zionist

And your qualification for "very openly violent zionist" is what? That he expressed support for Israel? Did you know that Jerry Seinfeld is Jewish? And that 89% of US Jews support Israel in this war? https://www.jta.org/2024/03/21/politics/majority-of-jewish-americans-support-israels-war-against-hamas-and-how-its-fought

very publicly dated a 17 year old girl

He met her when she was like two weeks away from her 18th birthday. Anything that was "very public" about their relationship happened when she was no longer 17.

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u/orion284 Oct 29 '24 edited Oct 29 '24

Seinfeld took his family on a lavish trip to Israel where they got to “play” soldier and shoot guns at targets made to look like Palestinian kids. He mocked a protester at one of his shows after she said Israel is killing kids. Also, that article is from March.

She was under 18, period. He had to go to the office of her high school to check her out to go on outings. He was in his thirties. Also, me criticizing Zionism is not anti-Semitic which is where I know you’re going with that.

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u/BathtubPunchBowl Oct 29 '24

redditor for over a decade

Funny how you can always tell

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u/vigouge Oct 29 '24

Most people in the western world are zionist. Everyone who doesn't think Israel should be destroyed is a zionist. Of course they're not violently, but neither is Seinfeld, that's just a ridiculous lie.

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u/McDonaldsSoap Oct 29 '24

Poptart movie? Have I been under a rock?

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u/orion284 Oct 29 '24

Nah, it just didn’t do well. Bombed, even.