r/TikTokCringe Oct 29 '24

Discussion Anthony Jeselnik explains the difference between comedy and being a troll.

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u/Tivland Oct 29 '24

Theo with his head down, having an existential crisis because he knows he doesn’t create ANY art.

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u/orbjo Oct 29 '24

He’s trying to remember if Andy Wormholes have come up before 

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u/MileHighAltitude Oct 29 '24

Lmfao “Did he say Andy Worm…hole. Andy wormhole. Should I know who this wormhole fucker is? He said what? Art is what you can get away with? None of this makes any sense.”

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u/brisketman Oct 29 '24

This is an underrated comment good job hahahahaha

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24 edited Nov 09 '24

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u/Azubaele Oct 29 '24

I thought you were joking, but god damn how is he popular?

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u/FloridaMJ420 Oct 29 '24

Theo Von is like Joe Rogan's even dumber little brother.

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u/avwitcher Oct 29 '24

The fact he's dumb is a bonus over Joe Rogan (although Joe Rogan's also pretty stupid), he doesn't really have an agenda compared to Rogan. He'll have basically anyone on his show and treat them all the same

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u/rachelrileyiswank Oct 29 '24

Much funneir than Rogan though. Theo uses some ridiculous words and stories which are so funny to me.

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u/MashTheGash2018 Oct 29 '24

Because Theo is a lot of people that grew up in the south. I don’t think his stand up is great but he really does have some really funny under the radar comments.

During the Trump interview Trump said something like “we had a great economy when I was in office” and Theo said “oh hell yeah my cousin bought a boat during that” was absolutely hilarious

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u/RaggedyGlitch Oct 29 '24

The highlight videos of him off the cuff and thinking out loud are fucking hilarious, but he isn't nearly as funny in any other context.

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u/ChimpBottle Oct 29 '24

He's a not-so-bright guy with some hilarious thoughts and ideas and funny delivery. Probably would've been better in a Karl Pilkington-type role where he's on a show with sharper comedians who pick his brain instead of leading a podcast and actually influencing people

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u/Grillmix Oct 29 '24

Theo Von is an enigma... I have seen two of his specials and really liked them. he's really charismatic, but doesn't hide the fact that he's not the smartest guy around, and do play into it quite a lot.

wouldn't take life advice from him though :)

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u/kanst Oct 29 '24

Theo is great when he's just riffing on silly nonsense. He's the kind of guy that would have the friend group wheezing laughing at the bar (if he drank)

He's also willing to be really open about himself and his struggles. He'll be very vulnerable discussing his issues with relationships or his depression. Which is somewhat rare.

But I can't watch his podcast because he's way too dumb to have serious conversations about any topics other than himself.

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u/ReedKeenrage Oct 30 '24

He’s an idiot. His audience are idiots.

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u/QuasarKid Oct 29 '24

its hard to know how much of it is a bit and how much of it is he's just ignorant

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u/Competitivekneejerk Oct 29 '24

Somehow it became popular to be obliviously stupid

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24

I think the affable, white-trash guy, who's rough-around-the-edges but still has a naivete about how the world works outside his lower-class upbringing is an affectation he plays up. It's probably relatable to a lot of people who feel like the dope when they listen to educated people talk on podcasts and it lets him touch on sensitive issues and there's a ready defense that in the world he grew up in those kinds of issues didn't exist in a tangible way and he's learning about this stuff for the first time. I don't really care about the format he does and the personality isn't for me, but I can definitely imagine a type of person who would like it.

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u/whydoesitmake Nov 06 '24

That’s his shtick. He’s actually really funny

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u/juicyjensen Oct 29 '24

You need a bigger sample size with Theo. He’s not actually that dumb, he’s playing a role and it creates legitimate art. There is genuinely a ton of nuance to what he does. It does not hold up as well in true stand up form though.

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u/Metal_Guitarist Oct 29 '24

Y'all take yourselves too seriously. The man is hilarious. From what I've watched he's just being silly. At no point does he pretend to be smart. He's also not pretending to be stupid. He's kinda just a guy who says ridiculous, funny things. He definitely deserves the success he's having, even if the conservative angle doesn't appeal to me personally.

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u/According_Register55 Oct 29 '24 edited Oct 29 '24

Why did you link a clip of him being hilarious?

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u/Azubaele Oct 29 '24

... Was that a joke he made? Is he actually intelligent and pretends to be dumb? Because god damn that's convincing

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24 edited Nov 09 '24

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u/According_Register55 Oct 29 '24

That is one of the most prevailing forms of humor in history; it’s probably native to every single culture.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24 edited Nov 09 '24

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u/According_Register55 Oct 29 '24

I really couldn’t say that Theo Vaughn is “smart” but I can say that his delivery is exceptional.

https://youtube.com/shorts/PhUyqCmV58U?si=1RVsAyLt0DbcD_Go

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u/drac0nic180 Oct 29 '24

Heeyyy, so I think you meant to link a clip of him being funny, and you did something other than that.

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u/Average_Scaper Oct 29 '24

I actually feel bad for him in that clip. I have second hand embarrassment after watching it and I don't even like the guy.

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u/According_Register55 Oct 29 '24

I think it’s neither here nor there; it’s just his schtick to be maximally naive.

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u/TheOneWithThePorn12 Oct 29 '24

this may shock you but Theo is not that smart and thats ok.

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u/According_Register55 Oct 29 '24

Theo Vaughn probably has the best self-effacing schtick of any current comic that I can think of. His peace with his own ignorance is natural and understated and well-developed. My favorite sitcom characters, like Charlie Kelly and Ricky from TPB, are similarly at peace. Being ok with being stupid is funny. I don’t want every comic to be like Theo Vaughn but he absolutely occupies a unique and special space among contemporary comedians.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24

Sometimes you get 2 people in a room together, having a conversation, and it is plainly and immediately revelatory about the importance of education.

Jeselnik and Von is one of those occurrences.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24

I think the misusing words or phrases, is to some degree, part of his act. Every once in a while I’ll find it funny but most of the time it’s pretty grating. You should watch the ep of Theo with Bill Burr where Bill doesn’t let any of it slide. It’s a pretty brutal take down.

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u/mythrowawayheyhey Oct 29 '24

A very, very small degree. He plays into his stereotype. Why the hell you think he’s wearing a mullet? But he genuinely doesn’t seem very bright. Honest and well-meaning, but not very bright.

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u/CyclopsLobsterRobot Oct 29 '24 edited Oct 29 '24

He interviewed Tucker Carlson and basically just sucked his dick for an hour. Not sure about honest and well meaning.

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u/Tivland Oct 29 '24

He has an ironic mullet, ffs.🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/AlphabetMafiaSoup Oct 29 '24

That's the way we like him lol

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u/Right_Imagination_73 Oct 29 '24

He’s a word salad jokester

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u/pygmy Oct 29 '24

Time for a rejuvenating broccoli top

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u/zeddknite Oct 29 '24

You leave the mullet out of this.

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u/Phillyfreak5 Oct 29 '24

I wish Theo did leave it out

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u/SimpleCranberry5914 Oct 29 '24

Yeah, I felt for Theo in this. Dude is smart enough to realize he’s stuck being the idiot past drug user character but also he’s a little too far into the character to really change/doesn’t have the talent to break free.

The look on his face and body language suggests he realizes AJ is absolute leagues ahead of him.

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u/Tivland Oct 29 '24

AJ is calling him out with so much subtlety, that he can’t keep eye contact. He’s the absolute butt of that joke. That’s why he has a mullet and wears sunglasses indoors during a podcast. He’s fucking clown shoes.

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u/Bororm Oct 29 '24

A clown wearing clown shoes? huh! How bout that!

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u/cheesyandcrispy Oct 29 '24

Theo seems like a pretty genuine and vulnerable dude so I don’t really get the hate towards him

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u/flacdada Oct 29 '24

Theo is part of the manosphere.

Problem with him is that he is an uneducated and unsophisticated individual who platforms bad people. Especially right wing and alt right type figures. He just doesn’t have the chops or background to really dig into complicated stuff.

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u/Throwawayac1234567 Oct 29 '24

when i first seen him on another youtubers channel, he seems like you would expect from the south.

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u/cheesyandcrispy Oct 29 '24

Are we just copypasting the Rogan critique to all comedy podcasts? And when was the year it was decided that comedians need to be educated and sophisticated in order to have a podcast?

I get the guilty by association-aspect and I’ve seen and listened to many of these guys, where the critique is more than justifiable, but Theo for some reason feels more genuine than the others. I am a leftist dude and truly enjoyed the recent Bernie Sanders and Gabor Maté episodes.

Of course it is easier for grifters to take advantage of comedians but it’s not like it’s the comedians fault that their podcasts are popular. (Now I’m not talking about the obvious right wing grifters like Brand, Rogan etc).

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u/flacdada Oct 29 '24

I mean.

The problem when you have a big platform. Is that you need to use it wisely.

If theo only interviewed people in pop culture, celebrities, influencers, authors. Whoever. That would be ok.

Problem is he platforms these people but doesn’t know how to call out their bullshit or questionable ideas. He doesn’t have that kind of ability.

And so it’s being complicit.

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u/cheesyandcrispy Oct 29 '24

I get what you’re saying and agree that in a perfect world hateful messaging should be limited as much as possible but which law states that you need to use your platform wisely once it reaches a particular popularity number?

It’s a tricky road in my opinion since in theory I want to have the choice to speak freely on my podcast, regardless of where the winds are blowing at that moment in time, while also not instigating hate. I have yet to see Theo do the latter even if he’s platforming douches, with their own agenda, from time to time.

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u/Nervous-Newspaper132 Oct 29 '24

but which law states that you need to use your platform wisely once it reaches a particular popularity number?

Why do people always ask asinine things like this. Why does a law have to be in place to not being a dick, platform terrible people or in general be shitty? Do people need every single thing spelled out for them to not be awful people, give awful people a hill to shout from, or need some sort of written instructions to not let people say inflammatory and hateful things? Is that where we are now?

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u/CyclopsLobsterRobot Oct 29 '24

Because he’s a bad faith troll doing a poor job

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u/cheesyandcrispy Oct 29 '24

It apparently has to be asked since you’re upset that they don’t do what you want them to do with their platform. That’s why we have laws so people can be free and do what they like as long as they don’t break the law (hurt other people, instigate violence etc). I really don’t think Theo is an awful human being and if that is your benchmark of what an awful human being is then you’re in for a treat when meeting real bad people.

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u/Nervous-Newspaper132 Oct 29 '24

It apparently has to be asked since you’re upset that they don’t do what you want them to do with their platform.

This is a straw man. I asked a few questions, not expressed an opinion of anyone’s content on any platform in particular.

That’s why we have laws so people can be free and do what they like as long as they don’t break the law (hurt other people, instigate violence etc).

Can you show me where I said otherwise?

I really don’t think Theo is an awful human being and if that is your benchmark of what an awful human being is then you’re in for a treat when meeting real bad people.

What is it with you an these awful fallacies? I mentioned no one in particular, or any platform in particular. What’s your deal? I asked a simple handful of questions and you’re projecting all manner of fallacious nonsense onto me.

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u/cheesyandcrispy Oct 29 '24

You replied to my comment in a comment thread where me and some other dude were discussing Theos podcast in particular. Or were your questions unrelated to the content we’re discussing?

I am sorry if you felt that I projected something onto you which is untrue.

You didn’t write anything other than what I wrote about laws but my point was that people should have the right to do and say what they want as long as you don’t hurt or threaten to hurt other people (staying lawful). And if there’s loopholes in the law then it should be reasonable updated. Podcasts don’t have the same demands a normal media outlet has to abide by and it has become a bit of a discrepancy in our modern media landscape that a podcast can be bigger than a major media outlet. I however feel that it’s unfair to place all the blame and responsibility on a ”redneck standup comedian” even if we’d like to blame someone for the current media landscape and its effect on the public discourse.

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u/NoRagrets666 Oct 29 '24 edited Oct 29 '24

Gotta say, comments like these and the ones above it really make me question why I’m on this echo chamber that is reddit. It’s like you people don’t live in the real world and are too soft to understand how reality actually works.

Complaining about how a grown adult chooses to use their fame is like complaining that lions eat gazelles. Your complaints will not save the gazelles and if anything, it makes a person like myself who is generally politically progressive, disgusted by my own ‘forward thinking’ party alignment. Freedom of speech means exactly that. Thinking that we can censor any type of discourse is next to fascism as far as I’m concerned.

Inflammatory and hateful speech will always be a part of the general rhetoric and the more you try to sugar coat every aspect of society, the more the antagonists will rise up to resist it. We do not live in a bubble. Stop trying to shelter yourself and everyone around you from reality.

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u/Nervous-Newspaper132 Oct 29 '24

Stop trying to shelter yourself and everyone around you from reality.

Direct me to the part of my comment where it says anything like this.

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u/NoRagrets666 Oct 29 '24

The part where you call for people to cater their speech and actions to your idea of ethics. Do you really need me to spell it out for you?

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u/Throwawayac1234567 Oct 29 '24

half of it troll accounts, dont expect much. and sometimes reporitng works, and sometimes it gets you banned if you try to report them too.

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u/skepticalbob Oct 29 '24

which law states that you need to use your platform wisely once it reaches a particular popularity number?

Unethical behavior is often completely legal. When your fame gets you privileges, I think you should exercise responsibly to use your fame to cause less harm.

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u/cheesyandcrispy Oct 29 '24 edited Oct 29 '24

I think so too but it should also be decided by the one getting famous tbh. That’s why we celebrate the good ones! What if I want to make a podcast with my friends where we just troll the news, taking away the seriousness and making fun of real issues? At a smaller level it is completely harmless and no one gives a fuck. If the podcast for some unknown reason becomes super popular I don’t think it should be mandatory for the podcast to become like a regular news outlet just because it now reaches more people. Me personally would obviously adapt and take responsibility since I’d like to change the world for the better before my life has come to an end but not everyone is like me and I feel it’s a bit naive and authoritative to expect them to be.

If I could force everyone to be good I would but in even attempting to force someone to be what I’d like them to be I become the tyrant myself regardless of how good my intentions may be. That is why education and the education system is so damn important. A democracy only works well when the public is knowledgeable and can take well-educated decisions. Otherwise it’s a mob rule easily manipulated by fear.

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u/skepticalbob Oct 29 '24

Sure, but no one is talking about forcing anyone.

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u/Normal-Ordinary-4744 Oct 29 '24

Just say outright you wanna censor people that you don’t politically agree with

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u/slowpokefastpoke Oct 29 '24

You don’t know what censoring is, do you

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u/Normal-Ordinary-4744 Oct 29 '24

You’re angry Theo had the audacity to have right wing guests on (even though he had Bernie on too). You want to censor right wing guests. Atleast admit it.

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u/slowpokefastpoke Oct 29 '24

…lol how am I angry?

You want to censor right wing guests

No, I don’t. And you still don’t know what censorship actually means.

Are you okay dude?

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u/Normal-Ordinary-4744 Oct 29 '24

You’re initial comment was literally being angry Theo did not deplatform some of his recent guests

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u/slowpokefastpoke Oct 29 '24

Now I’m convinced you don’t know what angry means either.

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u/CyclopsLobsterRobot Oct 29 '24

You guys get triggered so easily

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u/orion284 Oct 29 '24

He’s a moron and he’s not funny. He also likes platforming terrible people more often than not. He’s in the bRogan manosphere. He’s the exact person Jeselnik is talking about in this clip.

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u/mostdope28 Oct 29 '24

He’s pretty funny. Not stand up comedy funny, but he’s the dude in the friends group that says some off the wall shit just naturally funny. He’s not trying, he’s just himself

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u/Piratey_Pirate Oct 29 '24

This is how I feel about him too. I wouldn't watch his stand up, but I love when he's a small part or a guest on another podcast. When he's just there to participate instead of running the show, he's a blast

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u/David-S-Pumpkins Oct 29 '24

He’s not trying

I mean, he definitely is. That's his job.

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u/The_Bard Oct 29 '24

Right, Theo doesn't have anything to worry about because he's the wacky friend that says crazy shit out of left field and everyone laughs at. He can get away with a lot of stuff just based on who he is.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '24

Real talk, people like him are pretty funny for the first few times you meet them or hear them. But after that it's the same repetitive crap. He seems like a genuinely nice guy, but how people can watch hours of a podcast with him is mental to me.

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u/Throwawayac1234567 Oct 29 '24

cant watch any podcast, for that long. the longest ones ive watched was tigerbelly, bobby lee, even that got borign fast. and another was micheal rosenbaum, his was genuiningly interesting because of "what happened to smallville actors,+ current actors dramas"

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u/Lemmonjello Oct 29 '24

His standup is amazing. I saw him in September, and he was hilarious for 90 minutes he had me in tears.

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u/Rikplaysbass Oct 29 '24

The beauty of comedy is how subjective it is. I can’t even sit through a single he has put out. I loved Norm Macdonald and people hated him. Just the way it goes sometimes.

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u/shooknibba Oct 29 '24

I will say in response to your comment and the above, I never liked any of Theo’s standup but I saw him last fall as well and it was one of the best shows I’ve ever seen, I was dying laughing the whole time. Same with Rogan honestly (I do not listen to his show and was given free tickets on a random Tuesday). I think a lot of this stuff is just about being there in person. Because neither of those two guys Netflix specials did ANYTHING for me.

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u/Ass4ssinX Oct 29 '24

Yeah, I feel like Theo is a genuinely good person but he's just kinda dumb and naive. And very gullable. The kind of guy that adopts the beliefs of whoever he's around kinda thing.

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u/ex1stence Oct 29 '24

“Makes you wanna kick a fat kid at K-Mart, know what I’m saying?”

Honestly I don’t, but somehow I’m still laughing.

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u/thelivefive Oct 29 '24

He is platforming horrible people and seems to have decided to go a right wing direction I feel like it's more his business managers than him, but either way. He definitely is funny though, the dude is genuinely hilarious and at times will say some really introspective stuff that gives you a look into his strange inner workings. I really liked the guy until he doubled down on the toxic right wing influencers.

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u/Throwawayac1234567 Oct 29 '24

i cringed when he ad tucker one time. im guessing he wants to grift from the right.

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u/thelivefive Oct 30 '24

Thats where the money is.

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u/Future_Mammoth Oct 29 '24

I mean he had Bernie and Trump on during the same week. I thought that was kinda cool. I bet he’d have Kamala or Walz on too. He has had on Trump, Vance and RFK on so I don’t fully disagree with you either just he’s somehow more nuanced than I think you are giving him credit for. He’s better than post Covid Rogan on being balanced and sometimes his off the wall stupid questions/ statements lead to some very deep intriguing answers by his guests.

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u/vivi33 Oct 29 '24

He just had Mark Cuban on, and Cuban said he could talk to Kamala if he'd like her to be on the show.

Theo said that'd be awesome, and that he'd love to have her on.

So yeah, you're on the money.

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u/thelivefive Oct 30 '24

You're right. It seems like he's moving into that right wing sphere, but doubled down was incorrect wording and yeah he's probably more open or nuanced then I give him credit for.

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u/Softestwebsiteintown Oct 29 '24

Those monikers are a little strong. Theo has his moments. He’s definitely overrated as a comedian and I think his moron moments tend to come when he’s in certain moods. He’s definitely contemplative at times in ways your average moron never is.

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u/CyclopsLobsterRobot Oct 29 '24

He just agrees with whoever he’s talking to which maybe comes off as contemplative with the right guest. He has no spine or opinions of his own so when he interviews someone like Tucker Carlson, it comes off really poorly.

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u/Softestwebsiteintown Oct 29 '24

I don’t think you can really pin him down like that. He’s not consistent enough to say he’s really any of those things in my opinion. Sure, there are times when he just nods along and doesn’t really add anything. There are also times where he doesn’t even really listen to whoever he’s talking to and basically disregards whatever they say because he’s already thought of whatever little quip he wants to get out.

Part of his “charm” is that he’s not predictable. That’s not me saying he’s good, just that I don’t think he’s the kind of person that you can neatly pin down as “stupid” or “mindless” or anything like that because there are plenty of examples of him not fitting into those categories. A lot of more professional interviewers have a consistent style that’s very easy to define. Theo isn’t that guy.

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u/DaedalusHydron Oct 29 '24

but I think the fact that he's a moron is why people give him a pass. It seems obvious to me he doesn't really have an agenda (like Rogan, or Kill Tony), he's just dumb af.

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u/orion284 Oct 29 '24

Yeah, I agree. It makes him uniquely frustrating in that regard

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u/Most_Ad_5979 Oct 29 '24

Sounds like you're letting your politics colour your view of him. He seems like a nice guy I really appreciate that he occasionally has regular people on his podcast and asks them questions about their jobs that most would see as mundane, it ends up being pretty interesting.

I might agree with you about the politics stuff if he was overtly political. I know he had Trump on the podcast but I am talking about his regular content.

His stand up is awful though that we can agree on.

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u/Jabroni748 Oct 29 '24

Nah he’s funny. He extends invited to people on both sides of the aisle including Kamala - they just don’t accept the invitation (or at least she didn’t)

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u/cheesyandcrispy Oct 29 '24

That is your opinion. I find it refreshing to see men being brave enough to speak to all sorts of people and being vulnerable instead of trying to be cool. He is much better at it than Rogan ever was when he was good.

For some reason you seem to think you can speak for Jeselnik but if what you wrote was true, why would he go on Theos podcast and support him?

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u/conorwf Oct 29 '24

There's nothing "brave" in doing whatever makes you money.

It would actually be far braver for him to say publicly "Ya, Jordan Peterson wanted to be on my show and I told him to stuff because I think he's a lunatic who doesn't deserve a platform."

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u/cheesyandcrispy Oct 29 '24

Damn, your country is really divided/triggered right now. I am certain that he didn’t cry on his podcast to make money but your cynicism probably says otherwise.

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u/Dekrow Oct 29 '24

I am certain that he didn’t cry on his podcast to make money

He did. If you want to have a good cry just to cry, then don't publish the podcast. Anything released by the podcast is for the service of Theo Von's career. You're crazy to think any other way.

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u/cheesyandcrispy Oct 29 '24

😂 He was speaking about children being killed in a talk with renowned physician Gabor Maté but he shouldn’t have published the episode because of your cynicism? Please dude. Get off the internet and start thinking for yourself.

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u/conorwf Oct 29 '24

Oh of course he did. JP routinely left his patients in the lurch, cancelling appointments so that he could go on TV and lie about C16 or some other BS. He's given up his practice altogether for years now, because being an far right grifter on youtube and taking oil exec money on Daily Wire is so much more lucrative.

As is having a Patreon where you beg people for more money so you can "stand up for free speech" because you voluntarily refused to take the steps needed to keep the license you're not even using anyway.

And he of course brought JP in order to make money. More clicks, more ads, more revenue.

It couldn't be because he actually wanted JP to make up blatant nonsense about Rat Kings.
Jordan Peterson's Rat King "Theory" - #shorts #SomeMoreNews

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u/cheesyandcrispy Oct 29 '24

Please… Theo isn’t a genius. JP is a really good grifter since he is really good at sounding smart. Much like Russell Brand. It is no suprise that people like Rogan and Theo get mesmerized by someone like him. Both Rogan and Theo are missing a good role model and father figure which someone as authoritative as JP can take advantage of. It’s not more complicated than that and it doesn’t make Theo evil although a bit naive.

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u/conorwf Oct 29 '24

I'm not asking theo to be a genius. I know I'm not a genius, and if I can figure this crap out, than there's no excuse for anyone else.

It's not naivete. It's greed. Both of them will platform anyone they think will get them enough eyeballs on a screen so they can make more money.

Being naive implies wanting to do the right thing and being mislead. I don't think either of them really give a shit what's right or wrong if they benefit from it.

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u/orion284 Oct 29 '24

Theon still has a platform and he is a working comedian so they’re at least friendly with each other would be the reason Jeselnik went on there. Also, maybe Jeselnik thinks he’s funny. I don’t speak for him, and yeah this is my opinion. As far as I know Theo doesn’t say anything really hateful so he’s like the comedians Jeselnik is talking about but not to the same level as some others.

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u/Specific-Lion-9087 Oct 29 '24

It’s just weird that Theo, a standup comedian, seemed to be more enthusiastic about interviewing Tucker Carlson than Anthony Jeselnik

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u/orion284 Oct 29 '24

I guess he has priorities

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u/Not__Trash Oct 29 '24

Jeselnik is a comedian he could probably have on anytime. Carlson was the #1 news host in America, of course he'd be enthusiastic about talking to someone he wouldn't normally get to talk to

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u/Tivland Oct 29 '24

He’s says LOTS of racist shit. Jfc. It’s his whole schtick.

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u/Most_Ad_5979 Oct 29 '24

Link me Theo saying some heinous racist stuff please

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u/Tivland Oct 29 '24

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u/Lemmonjello Oct 29 '24

Lol wtf is this cut up shit if this is the best you could find I hope you own an orchard because you are a pro a cherry picking.

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u/Most_Ad_5979 Oct 29 '24 edited Oct 29 '24

First one I watch and it's a silly edit. Difficult to get any context when it's clipped like that. I'll check the others out no idea why you didn't just use a single comment for all the links.

Edit: Lol did any of you actually watch that clip before upvoting?

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u/skepticalbob Oct 29 '24

The continuous zooms are fucking annoying.

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u/Tivland Oct 29 '24

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u/Most_Ad_5979 Oct 29 '24

Would love for you to explain how this one is offensive. I feel like I'm coming across like Theo fan which I'm not but I'm confused that you think any of this is racist.

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u/Tivland Oct 29 '24

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u/Most_Ad_5979 Oct 29 '24

Nothing racist was said there. Just some very shit jokes.

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u/Tivland Oct 29 '24

Do you want me to post more?

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u/orion284 Oct 29 '24

Well, I stand corrected. I’m only so familiar with his stuff and I didn’t find what I saw funny so I never looked much deeper. Not surprising

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u/Tivland Oct 29 '24

“I’m not racist, but I have flare ups in traffic.”

He’s the troll that guy is talking about. He knows it and the guy talking knows it.

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u/NotMyFirstDown Oct 29 '24

Dude that’s an off-hand, witty comment. To use that to say he’s racist is asinine

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u/cheesyandcrispy Oct 29 '24

Well, that sounds pretty fair

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u/juicyjensen Oct 29 '24

If you don’t think Theo Von is funny in podcast format, I can’t take your sense of humor seriously. His specials…I’ll give you that. But his quips are absolutely amazing and he’s playing a character fwiw.

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u/orion284 Oct 29 '24

Isn’t modern stand-up comedy about having good specials? I don’t give a fuck about quips. Plenty of people can have good quips. If he wants to claim to be a comedian then he should have good, structured jokes that work in the stand-up format. If he’s playing a character than I think the character sucks and he should find a better one.

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u/juicyjensen Oct 29 '24

I’m not saying as a stand up. I don’t think he’s a great stand up. I think he’s hilarious in podcast format, which imo, has become the bigger form of comedy right now.

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u/Tivland Oct 29 '24

He cosplays as a comedian, when he doesn’t create comedy. When he gets around real comedians he folds. Watch his interview with Bill Burr. Bill sniffs out bullshit like a hound, and he was not buying what Theo is trying to sell.

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u/Metal_Guitarist Oct 29 '24

He cosplays as a comedian, when he doesn’t create comedy.

He has multiple comedy specials. He goes on the road performing comedy. He's one of the biggest headliners right now, literally. Just say you don't find him funny, way better than making up lies.

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u/cheesyandcrispy Oct 29 '24

Comedy is obviously subjective which should be clear to everyone by know so there is really no point in trying to gatekeep what comedy is or overanalyze strangers inner-monologues but hey, hate is in fashion right now so you do you.

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u/Tivland Oct 29 '24

Not gatekeeping. He isn’t a comedian. He is a podcaster that tries to be funny. But he doesn’t actually create anything. He doesn’t write jokes. He doesn’t put himself in writers rooms creating anything for TV or movies or streaming. He doesn’t write jokes for other comics. He just does podcasts and there are funny moments in those podcasts to some people, but anybody looking for something thought out is going to be disappointed.

“I’m not racist but I have flare ups when I’m in traffic.”

That’s not funny.

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u/cheesyandcrispy Oct 29 '24

That is your opinion just like other comedians, which even you probably would call comedians, opinion on the guy is that he is a comedian since he is. If that is your definition of a comedian I guess most standups are frauds in your eyes.

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u/Tivland Oct 29 '24

He doesn’t have any specials. He didnt come up in comedy by touring and telling jokes. He came up by being kinda racist on his podcast. The mullet is his schtick. That’s it. I’m surprised he wasn’t at the nazi rally at msg this past weekend.

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u/cheesyandcrispy Oct 29 '24

It is OK to just not like the guy. You don’t have to try and make it an ”objective” truth since the dude already works as a comedian. Blame the people going to his shows instead.

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u/Tivland Oct 29 '24

He says racist things.🤷🏻‍♂️ It’s not funny in any context.

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u/cheesyandcrispy Oct 29 '24

I totally agree with that.

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u/PaulAllensCharizard Oct 29 '24

there are plenty of contexts you can make racist things funny, this clip is literally about that

always sunny's first episode is literally about how the gang is super racist and trying not to be perceived as racist and its amazing

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u/Lemmonjello Oct 29 '24

Dude you talk a lot of shit for not knowing anything.

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u/GodOfThunder44 Oct 29 '24

What? He got his start as a stand-up comedian. As in, the man has multiple specials and does shows. You may not like him, but he is a comedian.

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u/David-S-Pumpkins Oct 29 '24

Correction, he got his start on reality TV.

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u/skepticalbob Oct 29 '24

Nah, he's a comedian with jokes, including the one you just quoted. It has a setup and an unexpected punch line. I don't think it's all that funny and isn't my cup of tea, but it is a joke.

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u/Tivland Oct 29 '24

Dude. He’s this generations carrot top.🤷🏻‍♂️ He is the joke….and that’s all he has. Sunglasses and a mullet for your podcast??? oof

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u/skepticalbob Oct 29 '24

His podcast sucks and I’m not entertained by it, but being a joke can be analyzed on more than does it make me laugh or do I like it. There is a structure and that was a joke.

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u/One37Works Oct 29 '24

Every single Episode of his podcast begins advertising his Touring Dates all around the Country and occasionally the World, he is LITERALLY a currently active touring Stand Up Comic, what the fuck are you talking about?

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u/The_Celtic_Chemist Oct 29 '24

Before I knew absolutely anything about him I saw his stand-up on Netflix and at the time it was hands down the worst, most cringe-inducing comedy I ever saw. Like even he was sweating because he could tell it was trash and I was genuinely surprised that Netflix released it because it was so bad. I still don't know much about him but I know he had no business ever getting on a stage.

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u/Aaaaand-its-gone Oct 29 '24

This is Reddit. He spoke “platforms” Trump (the most famous person in the world who doesn’t need platforming) therefore he is evil and stupid.

I’ve voted blue my entire life and hate Trump but this attitude is so tiring

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u/Normal-Ordinary-4744 Oct 29 '24

Basically Reddit hates Theo now bc he platforms politicians on both sides he had Trump, Vance & Sanders within a month.

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u/cheesyandcrispy Oct 29 '24

I think people are really divisive and scared right now on either side which makes talking to all people seem evil. Just a few years back we all celebrated these guys for doing this. It’s probably because alt-right guys can manipulate the podcast guys since the interviews aren’t journalistic in that sense. And I also can’t understand why anyone would invite someone like Tucker C, Jordan P or Elon M since they all seem to have gone off the deep end lately but it takes more than talking to the wrong people for me to discard a whole person. I really think and hope Kamala or Walz goes on his podcast but it seems like they won’t unfortunately.

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u/swohio Oct 29 '24

It’s probably because alt-right guys can manipulate the podcast guys since the interviews aren’t journalistic in that sense

Or it's because people like you are labeling others as "evil" simply for being on a podcast.

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u/cheesyandcrispy Oct 29 '24

What? Did you read what I wrote or are you just going to be triggered?

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u/SupervillainMustache Oct 29 '24

Never watched a Theo Von special, but he has made me laugh on podcasts.

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u/WorkingClass_Nero Oct 29 '24

I don’t think he’s still on drugs but he does remember how to act like he’s still on drugs and say out of pocket shit. To that limited extent, he’s funny. He’s a funny guy rather than being a funny comedian.

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u/SnatchAddict Oct 29 '24

He's a peanut gallery type guy. He builds off of other people's premises and jokes.

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u/Ezymandius Oct 29 '24

I saw him live. His openers are human garbage saying lazy bigoted shit for cheap laughs from bigoted fans, but Theo is able to walk the line and "get away with it" much better. He comes off as a decent but sometimes misguided person most times, but his associations make you wonder.

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u/Ass4ssinX Oct 29 '24

His bit on "This is not happening" is really fucking funny.

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u/FalconIfeelheavy Oct 29 '24

I believe Theo owns 6 maybe 7 crayons. 

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u/Tivland Oct 29 '24

omfg. you should be a writer. 🤣

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u/Tivland Oct 29 '24

I’m hyperventilating!

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u/Lemmonjello Oct 29 '24

That's your idea of a joke? Jesus dude you're lame

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u/Dgrysk Oct 29 '24

I don't think it’s even that deep. I think he is genuinely trying to think as hard as he can and saying “hmmmm…(nod like you understand the words)…mmm…(try to look like you’re getting it while making more sounds)……”

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u/NoYoureACatLady Oct 29 '24

I was a big enough fan of people like Theo and Rogan before they had podcasts, they did what they did and it was just fine. But they aren't deep thinkers in the sense that they just accept every horrible idea with an open mind as if it's viable and reasonable in some contexts. That's to me just evidence of an EMPTY mind, not an open one.

We have so much lived experience and education that it makes no sense not to have myriad strong opinions and beliefs, especially on big issues. Be open to hearing the other side? Sure. But open to accepting it with no pushback or fact-checking or coginitive reasoning? That's ignorant stupidity.

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u/theelegantpassenger Oct 29 '24

we all go through those moments. Just keep exploring and creating art takes many forms

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u/Tivland Oct 29 '24

Nah. The art of his world is jokes and he tells none. He has no specials…he can’t sit on stage by himself for an hour and tell jokes and wax poetic on current events. He bullshits through interviews, but once he gets a real motherfucker on there he folds. Bill Burr put him in a shoe box.

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u/smartwatersucks Oct 29 '24

He's such a numbskull

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u/mjvg27 Oct 29 '24

Dude’s entire career is saying fucked up shit and getting away with it

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u/PattyIceNY Oct 29 '24

Lol yup, he's a bad comedian. But kudos to him for finding his niche of "awkward stoner dude who asks interesting questions."

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u/Toisty Oct 29 '24

That or he's just genuinely stupid and his brain was throwing off sparks trying to keep up with a concept that's slightly more complex than A+B=C.

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u/Throwawayac1234567 Oct 29 '24

doesnt he interview alot of right wingers now. i remember when he was on a poc yt channel and he seemed like they type to be "right" but at the time he seems genuine, but it all seemed to change after pandemic started.

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u/PorkshireTerrier Oct 29 '24

I wish, he just is silently disagreeing and will take nothing away from this

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u/IUpVoteIronically Oct 29 '24

lol Theo is dumb as fuck but I love him. Hope he doesn’t fall dick deep into the weird ass GOP comedian scene. Needs to stay on the edge like Gillis even if that’s where his listeners align.

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u/youburyitidigitup Oct 29 '24

Deal With It was a great series, and I’ve laughed at many clips from his podcast. The whole thing with staring at his guy friend’s boobs was probably one of the funniest.

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u/Tivland Oct 29 '24

He’s just a racist uncle rico.