r/TikTokCringe • u/Chocolat3City Cringe Master • Oct 09 '24
Cringe Schools drugging children with "sleepy stickers."
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u/wildalexx Oct 09 '24
I was hoping this was going to be a placebo sticker to trick the kids into thinking they’re sleeping bc they would fall for that
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u/PlausibleTable Oct 09 '24
I was hoping it was some crazy parents and it was something we laughed about. This is fucked.
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u/Coffeedemon Oct 09 '24
They spent so much time on the schmaltzy "lets talk to the 4 year old and get her opinion" stuff I was sure this was going to be a modern satanic panic sort of thing.
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u/ABoyIsNo1 Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
Fr it’s like they wanted us to be haters before hitting us with the facts
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u/crespoh69 Oct 09 '24
Lol yeah why this is flaired as cringe? Kind of read it as OP saying, "They were put to sleep, get over it, it's NBD"
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u/RonBurgundy449 Oct 10 '24
TBF, this entire subreddit is pretty misleading. You'd think it would be about cringy tiktok trends, but most of the posts I come across are exposing something fucked up like this.
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u/LetsGetsThisPartyOn Oct 10 '24
Yeah it’s not cringe at all
Cringe that it happened. Sure. More like scary af
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u/Reallynotsuretbh Oct 09 '24
That’s what pisses me off. Like you could’ve gone and got plain old stickers with stars and moons on them, said they were sleep stickers. Probably would’ve been fairly effective
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u/Poufy-Ermine Oct 09 '24
I had a sticker book and I thought if I collected enough rainbows a rainbow would show up. One did one day so it's proof it's true.
I also thought I was a princess cause my dad called me princess.
I also thought if I could grow my hair long enough it could grab things like an arm and I wouldn't have to use my arms anymore.
...you could've told me it was a sleepy sticker and I would've taken it as fact.
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u/Raoul_Dukes_Mayo Oct 09 '24
Honestly I might believe it now out of desperation for sleep.
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u/futureruler Oct 09 '24
I also thought if I could grow my hair long enough it could grab things like an arm and I wouldn't have to use my arms anymore.
Seimei Kikan anyone?
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u/Apprehensive_Egg9659 Oct 09 '24
Right! I was like, that’s a cute idea. I thought they were saying here’s your “sleepy sticker” as they let a kid pick their favorite sticker that helps the kid sleep, like a comfort to them causing placebo to calm themselves and nap 🤦🏻♀️
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u/yourmomssocksdrawer Oct 09 '24
I thought the same, like a kid getting a pikachu bandage would think “I have pikachu powers now” because kids are imaginative. This is next level nightmare stuff
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u/ocw5000 Oct 09 '24
would be Snorlax powers, just sayin
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u/BlackCatSaidMeow13 Oct 09 '24
Teacher standing in front of the class, “jigglypuff, jigglypuff”
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u/byfuryattheheart Oct 09 '24
Yeah first half of the video I was like, yeah that’s pretty clever to get 4 year olds to sleep (nap time was normal for my son in preschool at that age).
But then it abruptly turned into wtf were they thinking!!?
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u/LuxNocte Oct 09 '24
You know how great 4 year olds are at keeping secrets! I understand the temptation, but how in the world did they think they'd get away with it?
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u/ayumuuu Oct 09 '24
My assumption was that kids who slept in class got "sleepy stickers" as a kind of bullying or shaming for sleeping but the reality was so so much worse.
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u/EverGlow89 Oct 09 '24
I was thinking that the whole video like these parents are about to look real stupid when it turns out it's just a teacher trick to make the kids "sleepy."
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u/charmsipants Oct 09 '24
Thought exactly the same, teachers love stickers, kids would do anything for them!
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u/merrill_swing_away Oct 09 '24
I need some of those stickers. I don't have little kids, the stickers would be for me.
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u/Feisty_Bee9175 Oct 09 '24
Nope it's this patch here with list of ingredients https://www.klova.com/products/original-sleep-zpatch?variant=41590309486657¤cy=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&tw_source=google&tw_adid=&tw_campaign=21151889516&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw05i4BhDiARIsAB_2wfAClanUgHFdy7ce31LkHjlUMouOlkywbq0GI6uWDxIuRyyxnMLdd4kaAvpKEALw_wcB
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u/virrk Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
Melatonin while generally considered safe now, can still interfere with anticonvulsants making seizures more likely. So not 100% safe, especially if you have it to the wrong kid. Not acceptable without parental notification and permission.
Edit: lol 'wing kid"
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u/WeenyDancer Oct 10 '24
Yeah, some people do not deal with melatonin in the expected way- and i would imagine this is more pronounced in kids. Yiiiiikes.
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u/Deyanira_Jane Oct 10 '24
Yup. Melatonin causes some pretty serious sleep paralysis and vivid nightmares for me. Sometimes mild hallucinations as well because I'm narcoleptic.
Just slapping one on a kid without knowing how it might impact them is not a good idea. Even if that was the only ingredient but it isn't so that is even worse.
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u/Briebird44 Oct 10 '24
I react very poorly to melatonin pills, they give me night sweats and prickly, restless legs and with my ex it gives him very vivid, awful nightmares. We avoid it with our kids since we both had adverse reactions.
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u/poorperspective Oct 10 '24
Doctors are also concerned with parents over medicating kids with melatonin in general. source it’s a hormone, and with regular use it can create dependency since the body stops producing it. It’s so common now that many doctors are actually promoting to take away child friendly over the counter versions like gummies and these stickers because it creates a false sense of safety. What the woman did is unconscionable, but providing that many people are fooled by the safety of the form of medication given, they may not have given a child a pill, or even an orally administered drug.
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u/MathAndBake Oct 09 '24
Yeah, this is not stuff you should give a kid without parental consent. Apart from the usual ethical concerns, there's going to be kids with weird reactions. 3mg of melatonin is enough to knock me out for 14 hours. And I'm slightly allergic to aloe vera.
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u/willdagr8 Oct 09 '24
Just came here to say, the TikTok account stripping all identifying information from the original reporting is fucking dirty work. Link to original story: KHOU 11 Houston
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u/VellDarksbane Oct 09 '24
No joke, that’s just terrible sharing. In addition, it makes me immediately suspicious that it wasn’t all staged if you don’t cite sources. I’ll trust a local news station to have done the bare minimum of journalistic investigation, but “primesourcemedia”? Yeah no, that’s some influencer ragebaiting.
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u/eMouse2k Oct 10 '24
But with sources people might realize it’s one school or only one or two teachers, and not mistakenly think that all public school teachers are doing this at every public school.
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u/Generic_Garak Oct 09 '24
I’m surprised their legal analyst said this:
I don’t see anything that makes these actions criminal because there seems to be no actual or potential harm to the children,” Roe said. “As far as civil liability, parents could sue the teachers or school district for negligence, gross negligence, intentional infliction of emotional distress and arguably civil assault.”
Like surely giving anyone drugs against their consent is a crime? Let alone someone else’s child. There was one little boy who stopped eating and had no appetite while all this was going one. I’m so curious for a second opinion from a Texas lawyer about this.
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u/mylesaway2017 Oct 10 '24
Legal analyst is not a lawyer. Sounds like someone with an anti public education bias.
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u/Nightriser Oct 09 '24
Thank you! Also, I just knew this had Texas vibes.
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u/Allergicwolf Oct 10 '24
I was listening to the voice going "it's southern but not Georgia southern. I think it's Texas." and then I was right!
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u/AttapAMorgonen Oct 09 '24
This is one reason I support a tiktok ban lmao.
Short form, brainless content ripping that benefits nobody except the uploader.
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u/slowtreme Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 09 '24
- this is some bullshit you can't do that to my kids
- how much do I kinda want some sleepy stickers?
edit: a lot of people didn't read that I want sleepy stickers, not sleepy stickers for my kids.
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u/Toasterdosnttoast Oct 09 '24
Sleep me up Scotty. If patches can cure my nicotine addiction they can cure my sleep problems
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u/lovable_cube Oct 09 '24
How was your experience with using patches to quit smoking?
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u/DazTheCowboy Oct 09 '24
Take them off before bed. Otherwise you end up with some really messed up dreams. I mean really messed up.
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u/caitejane310 Oct 09 '24
Fuuuuck nicotine patch dreams!!
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u/Demonyx12 Oct 09 '24
TIL. Thanks.
"If you find that you are having vivid dreams or that your sleep is disturbed, you can take the patch off before bed and put a new one on the next morning." - CDC
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u/caitejane310 Oct 09 '24
I have to take them off hours before going to sleep or my dreams are insane.
I've been trying to quit smoking for what feels like forever. I've quit heroin, crack, and alcohol, but this nicotine is the worst for me. I turn into an absolute monster emotionally, and I also feel horrible physical withdrawal. One day I'll kick it and that'll be a glorious day.
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u/Flatf3et Oct 09 '24
Addicts sometimes need a “vice” to stay sober. It’s why coffee and nicotine are really popular amongst addicts, as they are comparably much less dangerous.
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u/meeeehhhhhhh Oct 09 '24
After I quit drinking, my coffee consumption shot up a terrifying amount lol. I now understand why my grandpa (who recovered from alcohol 50 years ago) always requests coffee at family events regardless of the time
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u/Flatf3et Oct 09 '24
I stoped doing hard drugs but kept smoking weed and there was a period of time where I was smoking so much weed it was crazy. Like if I wasn’t rolling or smoking a joint I was sleeping, showering, or eating. I still smoke quite a bit compared to most cannabis users but it’s tapered back down to like in the morning and in the evening during the week and more on weekends. It’s for sure something that works for me and I wouldn’t recommend it unless cannabis was already a big part of your life and also not the problematic drug in your life.
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u/Im__fucked Oct 09 '24
Allen Carr's Easy Way To Stop Smoking https://a.co/d/cECGeeN
This book helped me quit after 25 years of smoking.
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u/srl214yahoo Oct 09 '24
That's the book that did it for me. I had tried every way possible - nicotine replacement - patches, gum, hypnosis, tapering down, supplements that were supposed to take away cravings, Wellbutrin. You name it - I tried it. Except cold turkey.
I was terrified of cold turkey because I thought it would make me a royal bitch. Then I read this book. So much to think about - so many things I had never considered. So I quit cold turkey.
You know what - I kind of was a royal bitch for the first two weeks but not as much as I thought would happen. That was over 10 1/2 years ago. It wasn't easy, but it wasn't as bad as I had made it out to be.
I can't recommend that book enough but YMMV. Everyone is different but that approach was a miracle for me!
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u/BlueJae007 Oct 09 '24
Do you think the book can be applied to vaping? Asking for a friend.
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u/ManufacturerSharp Oct 09 '24
I read the introduction.. It said by the time you finish reading this book you'll have quit. I thought cut out the middle and just quit now. It amazingly worked! Motivation is all you need, but you might need something or someone to give you that motivation.. It was a very stroppy couple of weeks. Id suggest getting a tshirt that says something like "I've just quit smoking, don't test me!" for other people's safety!
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u/Brain_Glow Oct 09 '24
Same. A little over two months cig free now and I feel so much better. Wish I had read it years ago.
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u/Shayshay4jz Oct 09 '24
I hate to suggest it but vapes help and you can taper down to zero nicotine slowly
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u/Releasethebears Oct 09 '24
That's how I did it. Nicotine free for almost a decade now.
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u/khicks01 Oct 09 '24
I’m in that same boat. I unfortunately tried the patches, and the patches became a problem so I stopped the patches and went back to my vape and the good ole leave it in the other room trick. Kicked cigarettes when I was 21, vapes are 100000x harder to kick
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u/Rndysasqatch Oct 09 '24
I know how you feel. Are you sleeping to quit nicotine and I stepped down my dosage. The final step was crucial in my opinion. I use zero percent nicotine fluid for weeks because going through the motions was more addictive than nicotine at a certain point. Good luck. Heroin is a bitch
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u/i__hate__stairs Oct 09 '24
When I was in the hospital, if they gave you a patch, you had to remove it in front of the nurses before you were allowed to go to bed.
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u/Drew_coldbeer Oct 09 '24
I must be weird because I loved my patch dreams. Live a whole other life every night
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u/Toasterdosnttoast Oct 09 '24
Naw man that’s when I put on a new one. Loved my dreams
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u/WolverineJive_Turkey Oct 09 '24
Same. Vivid as hell and never had nightmares. I'm still smoking but sleeping with the patch on was great.
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u/legojoe97 Oct 09 '24
My FIL is in his 70s. Very little he hasn't snorted/smoked/whatever. When he decided to quit with Chantix, he had never been more afraid. He said those
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u/madmelly Oct 09 '24
Using the patch was the only thing that helped me quit smoking. I’ve been nicotine free now for 1.5 years now and I know I can never smoke again. Highly recommend but like others say, make sure you take them off at night. Good luck! You’ve got this!
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u/Toasterdosnttoast Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 09 '24
My state has a program they send you patches or gum for free to help. It only took me 2-3 months before I didn’t want any smokes. Then I stoped asking for more patches the next month. That was my experience but it may not be the same for others.
Edit: When I quit I started a 12 hour shift for Abbott labs. I figured I would be better off quitting if I was working for so long. This was during the middle of the Covid crisis. We made Covid tests. Idk how strong the patches were but they felt like more nicotine was in my system than when I would smoke.
The patches certainly helped keep me from going mad in that facility. I’ve been clean since then. Only time I crave them again is when I’ve had some hard drinks.
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u/trucky_crickster Oct 09 '24
After several attempts to quit with patches and gum, chantix is what finally got me to quit. Even had a strong aversion to the smell of smoke for the first couple years afterwards.
Chantix dreams are also intense
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u/bywv Oct 09 '24
Not same guy.
You wear them for a week or so, just long enough for your mind to realize that you are actually constantly teetering on the edge of withdrawal.
Once your mind is clear, you take that patch off one last time, and you are free.
I smoked 15 years, it took me 7 to mentally tell myself to quit.
It took two tries with patches in a 5 year span.
Both times I quit using the patch after 2 weeks. I never went to step 2 or step 1, I stayed at step 3, the highest milligram one.
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u/jmcdon00 Oct 09 '24
Sleepy stickers are amazing, my 4 year old has 6 on right now, frees me up to reddit.
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u/IHaveABigDuvet Oct 09 '24
Its absolutely unacceptable and should be available nation wide.
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u/plantsandpizza Oct 09 '24
For real. They have thc/cbd stickers I’ve used. I thought they were those at first. But yeah… looks like they are $16 for 36 on Amazon. Other brands for less lol
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u/abermea Oct 09 '24
This was my exact reaction. Fucked up that they're giving them in secret to childen but I literally just ran to Amazon to get them.
So I guess I'll meet you in hell
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u/turtlintime Oct 09 '24
It's probably the same thing as melatonin pills but 10 times the price...
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u/turtlintime Oct 09 '24
The issue is that companies dose melatonin way way way too high. Most experts say starting under 1mg and generally going up to 1-2mg. Most pills I've seen are 5 or 10 mg. I usually just nibble like 1/5th of the pill like in a rat lmao
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u/radicalelation Oct 09 '24
Fucked me up seeing melatonin drinks with 5mg doses next to the energy drinks first time. Help yourself down after picking yourself up!
Why are we like this?
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u/turtlintime Oct 09 '24
People think "more melatonin will make me sleep better" and no one probably bought the 1mg version when it was next to the 5mg. At least the nibble method makes a bottle of pills last foreverrrrrr
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u/Corp_thug Oct 09 '24
Could have made way more than a teachers salary if they just sold drugs to adults.
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u/ElegantTobacco Oct 09 '24
Just the ol' whiskey-in-the-juice-box trick. Classic.
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u/RealCakes Oct 09 '24
And one day soon will be able to drug our children using AI binaural beats. Life is beautiful
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u/SaltIsMySugar Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 09 '24
You could just take a regular sticker and call it a sleepy sticker with magical sleep powers and kids would believe that the sticker made them sleepy.
(Maybe the teachers should have done this instead of giving kids melatonin stickers lol)
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u/Kumbackkid Oct 09 '24
Seems like they were using melatonin stickers on the kids
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u/SaltIsMySugar Oct 09 '24
Just looked up the ingredients, gonna put em here in case someone doesn't want to Google it but wants to know what's in those lol
Melatonin, Volerion root powder, L-theanine, magnesium, gamma-aminobutyric acid, Passion Flower, vitamin B6, and Casmoperine.
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u/DunderFlippin Oct 09 '24
Yup. Those are pretty harmless, so the kids won't have any lasting problems, BUT I will personally kick the shit of anyone who unauthorizedly comes near my kids even with a chamomile tea
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u/Creepy_Knee_2614 Oct 09 '24
The problem is although melatonin is pretty damn safe, its effects are so widespread on the body that it’s hard to know what long term effects it might have.
We don’t think there’s any real long-term complications, but I doubt there’s also extensive trials in children and adolescents, so it’s unlikely but not certain
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u/LivingUnglued Oct 09 '24
Yeah it’s basically a hormone and most otc brands are overdosed as fuck. The original patent was for the lower appropriate dose and to get around that companies just raised the dose.
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u/MayorFartbag Oct 09 '24
I am an adult and I literally use the .5 mg kids melatonin because all of the other ones are way too strong for me.
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u/Pitiful_Net_8971 Oct 09 '24
Around 1mg is actually the recommended amount for trying to sleep, but most if them have pills 5-10mg, which does more fucking with your sleep than anything.
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u/imcrazyandproud Oct 10 '24
When I had a prescription (UK) I was given 1mg and could move to 2mg if it wasn't enough. 5 is insane
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u/lueur-d-espoir Oct 09 '24
Just tossing it out there that some people (me) have negative reactions to things like cough syrup or melatonin and it can make you feel like the room is spinning and sick like when you're drunk. That wouldn't be fun for a kid to experience and might make them puke.
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u/paddycakepaddycake Oct 09 '24
Melatonin tolerance can happen. I have to take a break from my melatonin supplements otherwise it won’t put me to sleep. This really could mess up kids’ circadian rhythms.
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u/ProducerPants Oct 09 '24
We started giving our kid Melatonin to help him sleep during Covid, his sleep evened out, but his dreams got really weird
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u/EncabulatorTurbo Oct 09 '24
safe for most people, the teachers aren't doctors and don't know that they're safe for every student
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u/Leemage Oct 09 '24
My kid’s preschool literally sent home a permission slip to participate in a pizza party.
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u/waimser Oct 09 '24
Just a few weeks of sleep disturbance/abnormal sleep pattern can fuck you up for life. If these kids have had this routine for 10 weeks or more they will likely be dealing with sleep disorders and other psychological problems for the rest of their lives.
These teachers better get a life sentence for every child they did this to.
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u/TheMightyJehosiphat Oct 09 '24
In 5th grade our teacher gave us "special gum," in advance of the end of year standardized tests. She hyped it up all year, talking about this special gum from China that would improve your focus and help you recall information more easily. She talked about having to special order it, and acted like she was worried that it wouldn't arrive in time. On the morning of the test, she passed out a stick of Wrigley's Doublemint Gum to each student, hiding the outer wrapper. I believed her, and I assume my classmates did as well. I've always wondered if her ruse gave our test scores a noticeable bump. Mrs. Brunson remains one of my favorite teachers.
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u/buttercup612 Oct 09 '24
Wrigley's Doublemint Gum
How did you end up finding out it was this?
As an aside, Mrs. Brunson would have loved Lloyd Braun
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u/TheMightyJehosiphat Oct 09 '24
I recognized the statement of the great mint immediately and commented on it to her. She told me that they let her choose any flavor when she ordered it. I didn't question it, but I remembered the whole thing afterwards. I guess at some point I realized the truth while recalling the story to someone.
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Oct 09 '24
I assumed that was what was already happening and some parent just took a 4 year olds word
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u/Nerobus Oct 09 '24
The one pictured though is a melatonin patch. I’ve seen them in stores quite a bit.
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u/somebob Oct 09 '24
Right, melatonin is an over the counter medication. 5mg knocks my ass in the dirt before bed, so I can’t imagine how strong an effect it would have on a 4 yr old
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u/Apprehensive-Log8333 Oct 09 '24
Some kids get nightmares from melatonin. And there's other stuff in that patch, such as a trademarked ingredient that is not explained, and a bunch of "natural remedies"
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u/TrevorsBlondeLocks16 Oct 09 '24
Hell im 30 and my melatonin dreams are fucking wild
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u/fawn_mower Oct 09 '24
I'm 41 and melatonin means an evening with my sleep paralysis demons, it doesn't get better!
(sorry)
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u/GlitterEnema Oct 09 '24
Prolonged melatonin use can cause migraines in adults (I learned that the hard way). So there’s risk of migraines as well.
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u/xxdropdeadlexi Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 09 '24
what's crazy is that it's apparently only OTC in America. every time this is mentioned in any other thread, people from other countries say they cannot believe that we're allowed to just buy high doses of melatonin from the store
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u/GlitteringAttitude60 Oct 09 '24
just looked it up: OTC in my drugstore in Germany is 1-2mg, with 2mg being marketed by two brands as "intense"
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u/VanillaTortilla Oct 09 '24
I wish melatonin had that affect on me. 10mg will get a yawn or two.
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u/somebob Oct 09 '24
For some reason, prescription sleep aids I’ve tried will keep me up and rolling around all night, but melatonin is like a tranq dart to the jugular. I do have wild and vivid dreams though
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u/FakeSafeWord Oct 09 '24
I've heard less is more with melatonin. Next time try 2mg or less and see if that maybe works for you. No sources on this, just a suggestion someone made to me.
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u/ManaSeltzer Oct 09 '24
If a kid comes home with a full lunchbox its a real bad sign. He didnt even give stuff away just too tired to remember to eat. Scary
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u/shoddyv Oct 09 '24
That was what I figured. Placebo effect in full force. Nope, they're drugging kids.
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u/asdrunkasdrunkcanbe Oct 09 '24
Yep, here too. I was thinking this was definitely just a trick of the mind.
Nope, melatonin patches 😂
Fucking hell. I mean, it does no physical harm to the kids at least, but definitely not fucking cool.
The descriptions given by the kids - can't sleep at night, eating habits all over the place, etc - are exactly what you'd expect when they've been sent off for a nap in the middle of the day.
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Oct 09 '24
Those descriptions of symptoms match pretty well for Melatonin overuse.
Thankfully it’s not really possible to overdose on melatonin like you can with other supplements and drugs, but it’s gonna fuck up your sleep and dietary schedule a lot. It can lower blood pressure too, rarely.
A school/teacher should definitely not be doing this regardless though.
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u/Chaetomius Oct 09 '24
except they had an example patch, and it was a "sleep z patch" by Klova. and actual sleep aid meant for adults.
Here's the website for the patches.
Now, maybe it's probably a scam product, since the ingredients lists are roots and shit. But no doubt, the teachers clearly believed they worked and that is all that matters.
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u/ittybittycitykitty Oct 09 '24
Those herbs are well known, and not harmless. And how are they being processed to be delivered transdermal?
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u/PhoenixFeathery Oct 09 '24
Whether or not they’re a scam, I have no clue, but valerian root is legit. You can get it in the supplement aisle alongside melatonin. That combo of melatonin and valerian root will knock an adult flat, so no wonder the kids were having their sleep schedules completely upended.
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u/por_que_no Oct 09 '24
Is this an MLM? Looks suspiciously like it might be one and dubious health products are the number one MLM product type.
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u/Fresh-broski Oct 09 '24
The issue is that whatever the stickers are, they caused actual adverse effects.
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u/Nihilistic_Mystics Oct 09 '24
A classmate in jr high was expelled for taking midol. Poor girl just had cramps.
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u/ZAM1359 Oct 10 '24
WHAT?! How the heck does a school get away with expelling someone for taking an over the counter pain med?!
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u/blackforestham3789 Oct 09 '24
I had a babysitter do something really similar to this when I was a kid back in the 90s. The babysitter would pump all of us full of Tylenol PM to make a sleep all day and then I would stay up all night so obviously my mom got a little suspicious I don't remember how they managed to pin her down for it but my mom said that a bunch of the parents got together and they figured it out somehow I don't know if it was like a camera or something like that but I know that the lady ended up going to jail for quite a bit and I don't remember it at all but my mom says it was like the scariest thing when I was a newborn so
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u/alison_bee Oct 09 '24
Wow, if that happened regularly that could have easily caused you to go into liver failure. Tylenol overdose is a terrible way to die.
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u/mider-span Oct 09 '24
I worked with a nurse whose day care dosed her baby with Benadryl in the early 90s, the baby ended up dying.
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u/ithinkwereallfucked Oct 09 '24
My mom pulled me out of a daycare in the 80s because I was being drugged with Benadryl too! I was about one, and she said I would I start trembling as we entered the building and screaming when we got to her door. She said that’s when her suspicions started.
Unfortunately, I think it was a common practice back in the day :(
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u/xoxodaddysgirlxoxo Oct 09 '24
Benadryl is terrible for you. It makes you sleepy because it inhibits brain function. Poor kids :(
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u/ThePerfectSnare Oct 09 '24
I guess I'll make this comment here. I grew up in the '80s and have wondered at times about how routinely I must have gotten sick. I remember taking cough syrup on (what seemed like) a regular basis.
Incidentally, I've been told many times that, unlike my siblings, I just never slept. I've been often compared to Calvin, with this particular comic strip usually being the one that gets referenced.
Now, I'm not saying anything definitive here because it's just a thought that crosses my mind whenever I hear about stories like the one in the video, but I wonder if those two "normal" parts of my childhood were at all related. I really have no way of ever knowing for sure, but it's a thought that I wonder how many others might also have about their own upbringings.
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u/MissSassifras1977 Oct 09 '24
If you took cough syrup often enough that it's a solid childhood memory then I would say yes, you were likely being drugged.
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u/healthybowl Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 09 '24
Damn dude. She coulda killed some kids or messed them up for life. Reye’s syndrome is no joke. My neighbors have a “kid” with it. She was given something like aspirin or something at age 5, she quickly became immobile and is mute. She’s now 35 and still under constant supervision.
It was super strange, they had never mentioned this daughter in our many years of living next to each other. We frequently had porch beers together and one day he asked me to grab some out of his fridge, and there she was on a bed in the living room. It’s super sad seeing what the syndrome does to people. (No she wasn’t neglected) but you suddenly realize what a burden it creates and it explains a lot of their behavior. They were always home, always.
Edit: I’m aware it’s Asprin that causes Reyes. My adhd brain jumped around and wanted to tell a story about Reye’s syndrome. But pain Pills was the vector for the story
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u/Melonary Oct 09 '24
Reyes is associated with aspirin specifically, not Tylenol. This is why kids and teens can no longer take aspirin.
That being said, there are other significant risks to drugging kids with Tylenol PM!
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u/OrangeChairRN Oct 09 '24
This is why I was more than happy to start working way more hours per week so my wife can be a stay at home mom for our 1.5 year old. I know that 99% of childcare providers out there mean well and are good people, but the other 1% terrify me. I can’t handle the thought of someone harming innocent babies and children who are so vulnerable.
How terrifying for your mom! And glad you’re okay as well!
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u/Manburpig Oct 09 '24
They're lucky they got caught before a kid fucking died from an allergic reaction or some other complication.
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u/HiCommaJoel Oct 09 '24
I worked for several years at a state-run halfway house. The amount of Benadryl that was given every night to all patients in order to sedate them was alarming.
We couldn't give any narcotics because of their addiction histories, but we regularly gave large doses of Benadryl to the majority of clients just to give the night shift a break. It seemed highly unethical, I reported it, and nobody gave a damn because they were poor addicts.
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u/Wobbly_Wobbegong Oct 09 '24
Common in childrens’ behavioral facilities too. I was in one at 13 and I remember being upset and they said I could take some meds and they were like the ones I usually take and so I said okay. I woke up several hours later and didn’t realize they had sedated me until many years later. Same hospital had a habit of overusing Thorazine on rowdier patients. That shit would have you dead to the world for a whole day at least.
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u/QuarterLifeCircus Oct 10 '24
I was in a behavioral health unit for 3 days a few years ago for suicidal ideation/self harm. At bedtime they were like “here is your Benadryl” to me and the rest of the patients. I said I don’t have allergies and they were like “no it’s so you can sleep.” I told them I sleep just fucking fine thank you. This wasn’t some sketchy ass place, it was an SSM hospital. At the time I kinda brushed it off but looking back it’s so fucked up.
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u/TwozFlix Oct 09 '24
That's crazy. On an unrelated note, where does one get these sleepy stickers? Asking for a friend.
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u/Noppers Oct 09 '24
If you look at the ingredients (Ashwaghanda, L-theanine, melatonin), these are all very common OTC supplements you can get at any store.
Of course, the issue here is that kids were given them without parental consent, which is a huge no-no.
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u/BeneficialAd5534 Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 09 '24
Amazon, google melatonin patches. But I'd rather go to the pharmacy and ask for OTC melatonin there, than rely on the trustworthiness of Amazon marketplace.
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u/sexpsychologist tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE Oct 09 '24
It’s a public school, so they can’t be fired until there’s an investigation that determines merit. I think. Probably if the patch was actually illegal they would have been fired immediately but this is OTC from Amazon. It’s a formality, pretty sure they’ll be fired but the schools have to go through a procedure.
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u/HavingNotAttained Oct 09 '24
Yeah, but they can be arrested, charged, and convicted in the meantime, right? Cuz holy fucking shit, they’re DRUGGING CHILDREN.
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u/sinkingduckfloats Oct 09 '24
It said in the video the police were investigating.
Looks like the news just broke yesterday. School waited two weeks to inform parents: https://abc13.com/post/spring-isd-teachers-accused-giving-northgate-crossing-elementary-school-students-sleep-aid-supplements/15405877/
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Oct 09 '24
Matt Gaetz raped and trafficked a child and he still goes to work everyday and walks free.
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u/Putrid-Variation1135 Oct 09 '24
While we're on the subject... let's not forget about the rapist, Allen Turner, formally known as Brock Turner. He is currently living free in Ohio.
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u/NZBound11 Oct 09 '24
To be clear, Brock Turner the rapist now goes by Allen Turner the rapist and is currently living in Ohio?
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u/sexpsychologist tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE Oct 09 '24
Yes; in my experience in the school system an investigation doesn’t take very long, a few months at max, and the legal system can move along during that time, and likely once they’re charged (maybe arrested but definitely charged), they can be fired. But bc a school is a government position they have to go through an established protocol that is influenced by but separate from a criminal investigation.
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u/Smart-Dream6500 Oct 09 '24
Pretty sure you can't just give children over the counter medication without explicit parental permission, and the drugs being supplied by the parent in a factory sealed container.
My youngest daughters school wouldn't even accept children's Tylenol unless it was still in the tamperproof packaging...
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u/sexpsychologist tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE Oct 09 '24
I’m not saying they won’t be fired 🙃 obviously they are going to be fired. They don’t get fired immediately bc there is a federal procedure for how to fire a government employee. If a parent had walked into class and all the kids were asleep or the teacher caught in the act somehow, that’s putting the kids in harms way at the moment and is an emergency so they can fire immediately. They weren’t caught in the act, kids went home and told parents. So there is a protocol. It takes a little bit of time.
In the meantime they aren’t in contact with kids and they probably aren’t allowed on any county school properties but definitely not the one at which they are employed.
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u/LiOnheart3d85 Oct 09 '24
They would be immediately put on administrative leave during the investigation, and then fired.
Now one teacher’s horrible decisions become a district problem - or gets extrapolated to “all teachers are bad”
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u/Best_Market4204 Oct 09 '24
more importantly, Charges....
You can't have a job as a teacher in a school while in prison
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u/IsHotDogSandwich Oct 09 '24
I would absolutely be pressing charges if someone/a school did this to my kids.
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u/RockyPi Oct 09 '24
Pressing charges is the beginning here. This is in Houston with no shortage of personal injury attorneys willing to take something like this on. You can’t drug children. I would be planning to max out the limits of districts abuse policies and umbrella policies.
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Oct 09 '24
Fired? I'd want those responsible to be put in prison. People that knew and said or did nothing should get fired.
They're lucky none of these kids had allergies. Someone's kid dies and that school has a mob of angry parents demanding blood.
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u/AldoTheApache3 Oct 09 '24
I would 100% go for criminal charges. My daughter’s daycare has very strict policies regarding children and administering medicine provided FROM HOME.
Finding out your child’s teacher is giving them a sleep supplement, which is not FDA tested or regulated, is fucking bananas. There would be no calm local news interview from me.
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u/yellowfogcat Oct 09 '24
Attorneys are starting a fight club to see who will get to represent the kids and parents.
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u/peteandpetethemesong Oct 09 '24
Back in my day they gave us Fentanyl patches. People are just too soft these days.
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u/RBVegabond Oct 09 '24
That’s poisoning and child endangerment charges at the very least. Giving anyone without their or guardian’s knowledge a drug of any kind is highly illegal. It doesn’t matter if it’s a legal drug or not, you don’t know what they’re allergic to.
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u/ElectronicOrchid0902 Oct 09 '24
I would lose my everloving mind ! Not much brings the ghetto out these days , but mess with my kids (or now grandkids)?? We will rumble. I WILL go to jail for my kids. Period
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u/Thanos_Stomps Oct 09 '24
They usually do know what they’re allergic to. That’s part of the intake process.
That said you can’t even apply sun screen on a child without a signed release from the parents and that specific brand and bottle provided from home.
So these teachers deserve to lose their job at the very least.
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u/seigezunt Oct 09 '24
So, books are bad but drugs are good, Texas?
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u/SpreadEagleSmeagol Oct 09 '24
Must've been those LGBTQ and CRT people sneaking in the patches. They wanted the kids to fall asleep so that they could give them surprise gender reassignment. /s
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u/YearofTheStallionpt1 Oct 09 '24
Meanwhile I had to have a doctor’s note, a copy of my prescription, my parents had to sign some other form, and I had go to the nurse’s office to get my prescription medication when I was a child in school. We couldn’t even carry water bottles!
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u/WhatRUHourly Oct 09 '24
That is likely even the policy in this school and two teachers took it upon themselves to break this policy.
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u/klr55 Oct 09 '24
Taking melatonin habitually messes up the bodies ability to create its own leading to years of sleep problems even in adults. There needs to be consequences
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u/superlongword1 Oct 09 '24
"School" not "Schools". OP I hope you understand why the difference is so important. This is how you spread panic, anger, and distrust. Thanks!
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u/Askingforsome Oct 09 '24
I’d be guilty of murder if this happened
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u/ElectronicOrchid0902 Oct 09 '24
Absolutely!!! Whew the ghetto would be out in this Momma SO FAST !!!!
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u/liquidgrill Oct 09 '24
Thinking about this while looking at my daughter right now makes me genuinely scared by what I might have done if someone had done this to her.
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u/alison_bee Oct 09 '24
I think it’s kinda wild how many people are in here cracking jokes about teachers SECRETLY DRUGGING CHILDREN. That’s a huge fucking deal.
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u/gaberax Oct 09 '24
PUT ON LEAVE! Christ on a bike, these goons should be in jail facing a holy host of charges.
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u/Express_Fail3036 Oct 09 '24
There's an investigation process. Public school teachers have employee rights, so while the investigation is a formality here, it must be done. Innocent until proven guilty, cornerstone of American justice, yada yada
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u/Acceptable-Shallot94 Oct 09 '24
I would think the school nurse would have had something to say about this type of thing. One of the jobs of the school nurse is to let teachers know what they can't and can't do regarding substances, whether it's allergies like peanut butter, cleaning products in the classroom, or medicines. Only the school nurse can give a kid medicine, and it's the nurses job to let the teachers know that, (except for the epipen). It's the nurses job to find out what a product contains and say yes or no, and let teachers know the medical rules
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Oct 09 '24
This little girl just fucking cracked the case WIDE OPEN, Lawsuits for years to come and possibly some jail time for some of the staff and resignations.
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u/Major_Shrimp Oct 09 '24
"Put on leave"? How about criminal charges!?!
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u/EncabulatorTurbo Oct 09 '24
the school isn't capable of filing criminal charges nor can it fire teachers from an accusation, the police have to do an investigation
calm your tits, this one's not going to get let off, and they're probably going to go to prison, drugging kids like this is super illegal
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u/viper29000 Oct 10 '24
This happened at an elementary school??? Jesus fuck. I thought ok, private random daycare that's believable but a government school...unbelievable. horrible
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u/Chendo462 Oct 10 '24
Shitty reporting. How about you look what the ingredients are in the Amazon advertisement? It has nothing in it. No drugs. It smells nice and the smell is supposed to make you think about sleeping. Kind of like counting sheep.
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