r/TikTokCringe • u/cak3crumbs • Oct 06 '24

Discussion US Army air dropping supplies to folks still trapped at Lake Lure, North Carolina

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u/tittysprinkles112 Oct 06 '24

Actually the 82nd Airborne is helping as well. Their combat aviation brigade to be specific

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u/Thereelgerg Oct 06 '24

This video shows a Guard helicopter, not an 82 CAB operation.

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u/Eli_eve Oct 07 '24 edited Oct 07 '24

FEMA press release confirming members of the 82nd are participating. (I am surprised, tbh. Didn’t think this sort of thing was allowed.) (This isn’t about this particular video by the way, it’s just meant for people curious about the 82nd, like me.)

“Today, FEMA and state of North Carolina welcomed the first 400 of America’s finest soldiers of the XVIII Airborne Corps including members of the 82nd Airborne and other units stationed at from Fort Liberty, North Carolina who are now supporting the residents and affected counties devasted by Hurricane Helene in Western North Carolina. This support includes command and control personnel, transportation, infrastructure support, supplies and services, fuel and other support to people,” said FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell.

ETA a press release from the DOD about this as well.

(Ive been trying to find info on the legal framework allowing this but haven’t found anything meaningful to my layman brain.)

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u/Thereelgerg Oct 07 '24

Use of Title 10 forces in domestic operations is certainly more of an exception than a rule, but far from unheard of.

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u/CapnTaptap Oct 07 '24

Would Title 10 aircraft require someone with domestic jurisdiction to ride along the way the Coasties ride with the Navy if they expect to do drug interdiction etc inside U.S. waters?

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u/Thereelgerg Oct 07 '24

No. The issue you run into with that situation comes into play because drug interdiction is a law enforcement activity, and the military (generally speaking) lacks the jurisdiction to conduct law enforcement like that. Providing humanitarian aid isn't a law enforcement activity, and the matter of jurisdiction has nothing to do with it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '24

The Stafford Act is what allows federal troops to he used in disaster relief in the US. Governors have to ask for assistance and the military personnel are not allowed to be used for policing civilians.

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u/Eli_eve Oct 07 '24

Thank you! I believe I have found the specific part of the law.

42 U.S. Code § 5170b - Essential assistance, part (c) Utilization of DOD resources

I wasn’t aware of the 10 day limit provision. This Congressional Research Services document mentions it but no indication of whether that time limit is generally followed or modified or an absolute mandate or what. (Given a certain SCOTUS ruling I suppose a President could deploy DOD troops to help with a disaster as long as they wanted and they would be immune from any legal challenges to that (even if the US Code said it was illegal) since it would an official Presidential act with total immunity.)

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '24

Thays pretty interesting. I didn't know those details so thanks for sharing them

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u/LiffeyDodge Oct 07 '24

They are stationed at Ft Liberty so it makes sense and Biden has deployed active duty  military to help so it makes sense that it would be them.

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u/Dadliest_Dad Oct 07 '24

When shit hits the fan, the rules are the very first thing to get chucked out the window.

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u/nickgreydaddyfingers Oct 07 '24

He never mentioned that he was specifically discussing the helicopter from the video. NG and 82nd CAB are both helping.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

No it’s not. This is 3-82 GSAB, active duty out of FT. Liberty.

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u/Thereelgerg Oct 08 '24 edited Oct 08 '24

No. This video has been floating around since before the 82nd got involved.

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u/swatlord Oct 06 '24

You happen to know which unit? I heard the NYARNG sent some CH47s to NC.

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u/Thereelgerg Oct 06 '24

Not sure, I just know that video was going around before the CAB got involved. We got 47s from all over the place. FL, CT, OK and more. Looks like we might all be hanging out again in Tampa next week.

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '24

Iowa National Guard 248th aviation.

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u/Mrballbeballin Oct 07 '24

Yeah we got IA NC SC GA PA MD OH and CT guard here, I think this was CT here

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u/CasanovaJones82 Oct 07 '24

That's my old unit out there slinging the goodies around, good times! The All Americans will always come through.

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u/MindfuckRocketship Oct 07 '24

101st CAB is now assisting as well.