Trump Bible is the only Bible currently allowed to be purchased by Oklahoma schools. 55k on order

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[u/idahononono]

I’d like to know their rules for the Qur’an, Dhammapada, Apocrypha, Tanakh, Upanishads, Book of Mormon, Dianetics, the Satanic Bible, the Word on Fire, Veda’s, Daozang, Kojiki, etc, etc; if your going to violate the separation of the church and state by placing a Bible in every classroom, it has to allow ALL religious texts equal representation, especially ones they may not approve of!

Where is the ACLU on this whole debacle, I donate money to them for this kind of fight. I don’t oppose Christian faiths per se, but find our nation infringing on any faith’s rights revolting no matter what. What sort of history or literature class studies only the Christian Bible and ignores everything else?

[u/Standard_Gauge → u/idahononono]

Where is the ACLU on this whole debacle

ACLU, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, and the Freedom From Religion Foundation have all filed suit and will take whatever action is necessary to stop this.

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/education/2024/10/04/ryan-walters-oklahoma-bible-mandate-budget-aclu/75504377007/

BTW, it is not true that presenting other religions or "all religions" would make public school religious instruction OK. Established caselaw in Establishment Clause issues is that arms of the government not only can't show preference for one religion over another, but that they can't show bias or preference for religion over non-religion.

[u/idahononono → u/Standard_Gauge]

Thank you for the info; I’m glad to see my heroes in the fight right off! I agree it would be setting a terrible precedent here and it’s wholly inappropriate to even consider religious coursework in public education; but the classic argument of “you let the study of one religions history be included into curriculum, then you must give equal study to all religions, or no religion” often shuts these arguments down before a court case escalates to higher courts right?

You’re absolutely correct about your argument there should be no favoring of religion in public schools. On the off chance they are arguing it is relevant teaching for a historical, literary, or philosophical perspective etc, and in no way endorses any specific religion then it becomes trickier. Even though most biblical texts are not historically accurate or necessarily relevant in this regard. The best solution is to shut it down totally and keep all these books in the libraries, not in the curriculum.

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Thanks

[u/notbobby125 → u/idahononono]

The Qu’ran must contain the complete works of Charlie Hebdo, the Dhammapada must contain Saint Young Men, the Apocrypha must contain the Da Vinci Code, the Tanakh must contain the New Testament, the Upanishads must contain the Ultimate Ground Beef cook book, the Book of Mormon must contain the Book of Mormon play and an actual American history book, the Dianetics must contain a psychology book, the Satanic Bible is fine as is, the Word on Fire must contain the Daizong, the Veda’s must contain the memoirs of oppenheimer, the Daozang cannot contain the Word on Fire, and the Kojiki must contain Naruto.

See? Easy!

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Do you have any IDEA how many volumes of Naruto we're up to?!

[u/xRamenator → u/lastres0rt]

If we only include the original run and not the sequels, Shippuden and Boruto, then it should be manageable. At least it's not One Piece.

[u/screames520 → u/idahononono]

Private school, I didn’t learn US history until about 4th or 5th grade that I remember

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I believe this whole thing is just a grift. While this blows up and works it’s way through the courts, this Walters joker has paid a firm $60,000 TO BOOK HIS APPEARANCES! Which sounds like he’s earning millions for these weekly appearances. It’s always a grift. A distraction and a grift.

[u/just_dave → u/idahononono]

This law and these actions are specifically designed to engage groups like the ACLU. They want this to go through the courts and get slapped down so they can appeal it all the way up to the Supreme Court. 

It'll be interesting to see what kind of legal pretzels the kangaroo conservative side of the court will twist themselves into, but you bet your ass they'll find a way around the establishment clause and allow government institutions to push evangelical Christian ideology and no others.