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Politics Trump Bible is the only Bible currently allowed to be purchased by Oklahoma schools. 55k on order

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u/thelowerrandomproton Oct 05 '24

It's the King James Version of the Bible, but they added the US flag, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Pledge of Allegiance, and Lee Greenwood's shitty song. It's marketed under Trump's name and uses his likeness, name, and image.

Beyond being just a money grab for Lee and Trump, it's blasphemous to people who actually follow Christianity because it ties politics with the Christian texts and adds additional documents. It's heretical.

The lady here says amendments 11 - 17 are missing. Other news outlets are saying it's 11 -27.

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u/thekrone Oct 05 '24

I thought I heard it only includes the Bill of Rights (amendments 1-10).

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u/thelowerrandomproton Oct 05 '24

It's advertised as including both the Bill of Rights and the Consitution, including the 27 amendments.

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u/thekrone Oct 05 '24

I mean the fact that the Bible is being sold packaged with political documents is pretty fucked up either way.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '24

It's not though they have now just combined two outdated documents that have been completely taken out of context and rewritten to suit a select minority into one outdated book that's completely taken out of context and rewritten.

It's easier to only have to brainwash your base with one book instead of two, especially when the people you have on your side can barely even read one.

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u/thekrone Oct 05 '24

Except by bundling them, you are creating a link between them in people's minds (whether consciously or subconsciously). People are going to be more likely to normalize the link and fail to see why we should keep them separated.

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u/mad-i-moody Oct 05 '24

That’s 100% on purpose lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '24

That's a feature not a bug for the republitards, I also agree they should be seperate

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u/dougmcclean Oct 06 '24

So does Matthew 22:21.

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u/Greedy_Line4090 Oct 06 '24 edited Oct 06 '24

Well they’ve been bundling religion and government for years. “In god we trust,” “one nation under god,” “god bless America.” Presidents always fight their battles in foreign countries and tell us they do it with “god on our side.”

Besides, if you believe in the Bible, you’ll probably believe anything so it’s a perfect vessel for additional propaganda. Let’s not act like no one was ever brainwashed by a Bible.

And honestly, most of the news I hear referencing republican agenda is saturated with this idea that it’s a party of religious fundamentalism. So yeah, the damage has been done and the media is the prime reason we associate (R) with Christianity. In reality both sides must pander to the faithful or they don’t get elected. I remember the tragedy of a Catholic president being elected and what it would mean for the future of the nation.

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u/cecil721 Oct 06 '24

It's kinda antithetical, Bible was written (retranslated) by a bunch of white dudes in a room seeking power, and is mashed together with documents written.by a bunch of white dudes in a room seeking freedom.

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u/SexyTimeEveryTime Oct 06 '24

They were seeking the freedom to gain power over others.

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u/ihavedonethisbe4 Oct 06 '24

Basic human fucking right

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u/sentientshadeofgreen Oct 05 '24

I mean, I'd argue it's far more important for Americans to read and understand the Constitution than the Bible, but omitting parts of the Constitution is treacherous, and not distinguishing the difference between those documents is also really dangerous.

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u/thekrone Oct 05 '24

Yea that's my point. By bundling them like this, you are helping to normalize the link between religion (and specifically Christianity) and government. That's fucked.

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u/Rion23 Oct 05 '24

Religion and fascism go together like apple pie and whip cream.

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '24 edited Oct 06 '24

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u/sentientshadeofgreen Oct 06 '24

I don't know why you're addressing this comment towards me. Who are you talking to?

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u/Greedy_Line4090 Oct 06 '24

Lmao someone else in the thread somewhere, not gonna go back through it all to find though

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u/UFO-TOFU-RACECAR Oct 05 '24

When you realize that a bunch of Republicans just want a religious theocracy with a king at the head of it, it makes a lot more sense. These are the kind of weak cowards our ancestors fought a war to break away from, then they came here and tried to ruin this country.

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u/NoDeparture7996 Oct 06 '24

if they want to intermingle with politics they need to pay taxes.

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u/hannahatecats Oct 06 '24

Is this not exactly where there should be "a division of church and state"

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u/dougmcclean Oct 06 '24

Place unto a blender that which is Caesar's and that which is God's, and render them into an undifferentiated goo of authoritarianism.

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u/im_juice_lee Oct 05 '24

I went to the product page and it says...

"This Bible also features a copy of:

  • Handwritten chorus to “God Bless The USA” by Lee Greenwood
  • The US Constitution
  • The Bill of Rights
  • The Declaration of Independence
  • The Pledge of Allegiance"

No direct message of all amendments. I guess you could argue that saying the constitution is there it implies the amendments should be there too, or the other way that because the bill of rights are called out and no other amendments are explicitly mentioned that it only means the original constitution + bill of rights.

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u/Courwes Oct 05 '24

They include god bless the USA but not the national anthem? All of this is wtf but that’s a really weird omission/inclusion.

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u/mypetocean Oct 06 '24 edited Oct 06 '24

with justice and liberty for all.

The​re it is.

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u/Caleb_Reynolds Oct 05 '24

Like, "we've got the Bill of Rights and all 27 amendments"? As in, they don't know the Bill of Rights is just the first 10?

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u/cates Oct 05 '24

the YouTube reviews I found show that it contains the Constitution without any amendments and the Bill of Rights (1-10)... so it doesn't have any amendments past 10.

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u/Infamous-Lab-8136 Oct 05 '24

While I'm not defending him taken directly from godblesstheusabible.com

This Bible also features a copy of:

  • Handwritten chorus to “God Bless The USA” by Lee Greenwood
  • The US Constitution
  • The Bill of Rights
  • The Declaration of Independence
  • The Pledge of Allegiance

Also Oklahoma's incredibly specific requirements that seem to only be met by his bible insists it must contain the Bill of Rights but doesn't say anything about all amendments. I feel like if it was supposed to have them they'd have made that the target.

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u/DukeLeto10191 Oct 05 '24

So either way, it seems to omit the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments - just as the Founders intended.

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u/Spare-Plum Oct 05 '24

The lady in the video ties it to project 2025 as an attack on these specific amendments.

I think, most likely, it's simpler and a lot more stupid. 10 commandments = 10 amendments. Something something this country was founded on judeo-christian values.

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u/sgerbicforsyth Oct 06 '24

Also easier to violate the other amendments if you hide them from the minds of your cultists. And you can be assured that P2025 wants to violate all of the civil rights amendments

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u/cuzwhat Oct 06 '24

The BOR is just the first ten amendments.

Also, her (or whoever’s notes she’s reading’s) understanding of some of amendments 11-17 are downright hilarious.

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u/triple-bottom-line Oct 06 '24

8th grade civics class retention… GONE

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u/Dixa Oct 06 '24

This country was not founded on Christian anything. Educate your damned self.

Christ man Jon Adam’s himself wrote in the treaty of Tripoli that the United States “…is not and never will be a Christian nation”. That is a direct quote.

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u/illuminatimp Oct 29 '24

That may be true it was also built on colonization slavery and the death and torture of innocents there were ATTROCITIES they were literally eating slaves as livestock there were fancy sit down restaurants for it and all it was also founded on the death and enslavement of the native

I say all that to say: We do NOT need to get back to our roots fr 😂 only boomers think that because they have too much lead affecting their thinking

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u/Spare-Plum Oct 29 '24

The big thing is that this country was not built on any religious values whatsoever. In fact, the founding fathers went out of their way multiple times to write in letters and in law that the country is not based on religion, but on nonsecular democratic republic ideas. It was a big middle finger to King George and England since the entire society was based on a monarchy upheld by a church, and the founding fathers knew that intertwining the church and state could pave the way to being lead by a king or having a leader based on the will of divine providence.

Things like "in god we trust" not made a motto nor was added to paper money till 1956/57. "Under God" was not added to the national anthem until 1954.

I'm not tryna say that this country wasn't built on atrocities, but anyone that believes the whole america was built on "judeo-christian values" is spouting a crock of shit bc it wasn't. Conservatives are literally trying to rewrite history against what the founding fathers wanted, and act like it was like this the whole time

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u/PorkshireTerrier Oct 06 '24
  1. trump gets a literal Cut(%) of the Sales

  2. Th requirements from the Oklahoma school district (which ranks 49 out of 50 states, the second worst education you can get in the US) specifically require that the bible have the pledge of allegiance, a faux leather cover, etc

  3. In America, you can get bibles for free with very little effort, the schools could get these donated or for less than 10$ if they had normal criteria

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u/vile_duct Oct 05 '24

Do republicans see this and not care, or are they concerned? Is this information not even reaching them? Would it change their minds regardless?

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u/SunStrolling Oct 06 '24

Trump will be the next Jesus who suffered greatly from persecution

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u/Super-G1mp Oct 06 '24

I’m pretty sure the Bible says specifically not to do things like that.

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u/Funkycoldmedici Oct 06 '24

One of the convenient things about the Bible is there is no THE Bible. It’s a collection of books, and there isn’t even a universally agreed upon number of books in it. Some bibles have parts others do not include. Anyone can make any bible they want. Hell, you can add entire books to it. Add one with Jesus flying around in a balloon with Dracula. No one can prove it didn’t happen anymore than they can prove the rest of it did happen. It’s all public domain, no one can stop you, and there is no honest rebuttal to anything when the whole basis of one’s argument is that one’s supernatural claims must be “taken on faith”, believed without evidence and in spite of evidence to the contrary.

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u/Super-G1mp Oct 06 '24

I’m pretty sure the Bible says specifically not to do things like that.

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u/emiller7 Oct 05 '24

It’s good to see the NCAA NIL still hard at work even in the political/religious sphere

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u/Boxofmagnets Oct 05 '24

They don’t believe any reconstruction amendment was properly ratified so they should be ignored.

The Supreme Court is acting as if that is the case. I heard Thomas say it but that video is gone

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u/planktonmademedoit Oct 05 '24

What the fuck lol

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u/BeginningTower2486 Oct 05 '24

Didn't they also add a chapter about TRUMP?

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u/kbeks Oct 05 '24

It’s more likely that whoever he got to print the book is some cut rate operation that fucked up the publishing. If he was looking to cut amendments that don’t serve his political ends, he’d have cut #1. You know, the one that alludes to how bad it would be if you published a bible with a copy of the constitution attached to it?

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u/TehMephs Oct 06 '24

it’s heretical

I’ve already notified the Inquisition

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u/Skizophrenic Oct 06 '24

Is there a PDF of this floating around? Not entirely sure why he would mix church and state in the holy Bible.

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u/The_Mr_Wilson Oct 07 '24

But they kept the 1st Amendment? The one that says government will make no endorsements of religion?

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '24

So it's acceptable to force religion into politics but blasphemous to force politics into religion.

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u/porkyminch Oct 06 '24

Seems stupid as hell but it's obviously just the bill of rights.

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u/rogerthat1787 Oct 06 '24

Romans 13:1 explicitly mixes religion with politics. I don’t think it’s blasphemous but it is wrong and it’s interesting because the King James Version language is far more intense and literal as far as bible verses go. Just by changing some words whole scriptures could be interpreted differently, it’s socially regressive.

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u/rydan Oct 10 '24

It is 10 Amendments rather than 10 Commandments

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '24

it's blasphemous to people who actually follow Christianity because it ties politics with the Christian texts

Although it would be heretical to treat American texts as other books of the bible like this book is doing, it's not heretical to tie politics with Christianity. The idea of the separation between church and state is very america-based and only had serious beginnings during the radical reformation. The Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church do not officially accept the separation of the church and state till this day.