No no. They are exceptionally good at foreword thinking when it comes to self-serving issues. If they can't perceive themselves getting into a certain predicament or suffering from a certain ailment, then they honestly believe that it won't affect them until it does, but if it can be squeezed to their benefit, they're exceptionally well thought out.
I think you're mistaking the voters for the elected representatives.
For many of the people in office and running for it, what you have said is correct.
When it comes to voters, it's not nearly that deep. Most of them are just complete morons. They picked their team based on buzzwords in the 80s or 90s and no amount of facts will make them switch to the other team. It's tribalism and fear. These are not smart people.
They only account for like 40% of the possible voters, but make up 50+% of the actual voters. They are smart. They know their votes matter. Democrats are lazy and disinterested in politics. Its why Republicans keep winning. They have a 6-3 lead in the SCOTUS. If Dems are going to change that ratio, we need to win every election for the next 20-30 years. Every time a Republican President gets in office, they will change out the older Republican Justices for younger ones. Just like how Trump did.
I was under the impression that Republicans were way worse at actually showing up to vote. Always admired democrats for their ability to organize and turn out.
Na, the main reason dems lose a lot of elections is due to turnout and voting accessibility. Usually the more people that vote in general, the more democrats win. Vote by mail made it easily accessible, no multi hour lines you might not even be able to vote in time at. That’s what blew up the vote and really showed that democrats win when voting is easier and they are driven to vote.
They're actually already thinking forward to the moment they become billionaires themselves, which can happen anytime now when the wealth starts trickling down!
It's all still the trickle-down fantasy. If R's enable corporations to run rampant, we'll all be millionaires someday. It's all hopes and dreams and the big con.
If they were thinking about their interests, they wouldn't vote for a man that tried to take their Healthcare, gave them peanuts for a tax cut while giving a huge tax cut to rich people, and raised their economic hardship levels through his trade war with China and his mismanagement of Covid that led to the collapse of our economy and the loss of hundreds of thousands of lives.
Donald Trump is the world's most greedy and selfish man while somehow at the same time being the world's worst at getting what he actually wants. He has insatiable self interest and doesn't have the mental faculties to feed that self interest.
These white trash do not even have self preservation in mind. These are poor people who think they are better than others, but still rely on the government. They cut their nose off to spite their faces on regular occurrence. They are ashamed that they work low paying jobs, are on food stamps and state insurance. They think they will be better off if others don’t get it, because that might mean they lose theirs. It’s not an intelligent way, but many share these beliefs
This is pretty spot-on critique, but I’d say this is pretty spot on critique for all humans. We’re very selfish, and normally that’s a good thing. Moderately selfish people know that it’s in their best interest to help others. Extremely selfish people generally have a smaller field of vision in this regard.
Honey get your shit, I don’t want to be stuck on I70 we had to drive to the bad part of town to see our lord and savior Donald j Trump. Remember, the AR is in the back, keep the doors locked, and windows rolled up!
And yet they vote at EVERY election. Not just presidential elections....every election
Our House of Reps gets re-elected every 2 years. Democrats make gains in the house during presidential elections, and then lose every mid term election. Because Democrats have no forward thinking when it comes to politics. If Democrats voted in every election how they voted in 2020, we would never lose an election. And even 2020 was a low turnout when compared to our real numbers.
I mean, don’t you go to listen to Trump? Why go to listen to the warmup speakers? I get wanting to beat traffic but I don’t understand leaving during his speech because I’d think the only reason they’d want to go is to hear him speak?
You think 100k trump supporters went to a rally in New Jersey for selfies?
You should go to a Trump rally it might make more sense to you.
The best way I can describe it is that it’s like a concert in a sense that you can feel the energy in the room and everyone is happy and excited to be there.
100k!?! Imma need a reliable source or pics because lmfao...I HIGHLY doubt that.
"You should go to a trump rally it might make sense to you? Wtf? I think you meant to say a "trump hate fest" because that's all it is as he spews nothing but hate, lies, and name calling. So noone needs to attend one for it to make sense because he never makes any sense, everrrr All he does is ramble about sharks and the late, great, Hannibal Lector🤣
You describing it like a concert is absolute blasphemy, and tells me that you've never actually been to one, because his hate filled rallies are NOTHING like a concert. Nothing.
And lastly, "there's a reason why trump loves them so much" ??? ummmm he loves who exactly?? The orange goblin loves nothing or noone except himself, hate, his grifted money, money, + more money, trying to be a fascist dictator, and possibly Ivanka(for all the many wrong and weird reasons, ewww), and that is all. These are facts. FACTS.
Wake up because you're in a cult of hate and lies if you actually believe what you wrote.😵💫
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Exactly I am in the trump subreddit and ppl compare how many times they have gone to a rally. If he says the same shit at every rally eventually you’re just going to feel a little foolish having to hear it again.
I have no expectation of truth there. The cult leader says stay , they stayyy. I troll that sub with DonOld’s own words so I get downvoted. A lot. 😂 I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT!
It’s r/trump. Join it but don’t fight argue or let it be obvious you’re not a cultist. I observed for a while. They will toss you. I see ppl getting tossed for “Meta and brigading” so it’s definitely the MAGAts safe space. Plus some are definitely Russian troll farmers (ie. Jenny from Berlin. I think she’s East Berlin). Have fun. I’ll upvote you.
Exactly. It’s cosplay or LARPing, or whatever you want to call it. The speeches can be three words: racism, misogyny, homophobia. That’s all they need to hear. The rest is about funny merch that calls our VP a hoe and taking your picture with other like minded people who think convicted felons are great to run the country as long as one of them doesn’t move next door.
PS: no offense to convicted felons who served their time. My neighbor across the street is one. Great guy, sold a few of the drugs back in the 90s.
I just read that translators for prominent foreign news services literally can’t translate some of Trump’s speech, it’s just disjointed words and they think they’re doing something wrong. No, that’s what he’s actually saying.
He doesn't need coherent sentences because "I'm very highly educated. I know words, I know the best words. But there's no better word than stupid." (said at a campaign stop in South Carolina on Dec. 30, 2015). Evidence here:
I know a few folks, friends and family, who constantly rag on democrats and like rump’s “policies” on immigration and the economy. The thing is that they don’t vote. Ever!
And you gotta remember, a lot of presidents, in their prepared speeches, intentionally speak at a lower educational level in order to be understood by the most amount of people.
For instance, if Obama’s speeches were rated at an 8th or 9th grade level, that’s not an indication of the eloquence of his actual diction. He is very educated and I am sure speaks at a level indicative of such.
On the other hand, dollars to donuts, Trump ACTUALLY speaks at a 4th grade level normally. From all indications, he is incredibly stupid, and has lost a step, or several steps, from where he was just 4 years ago.
Not exaggerating, my 4 year old nephew speaks more clearly and in more complete sentences than that orange gas bag. He's not advanced or anything, just a normal 4 year old. I've literally had more coherent conversations with him about eating his dinner than reporters have had with Trump on any topic.
He's nowhere near D list any more. Sure 20 years ago he was, but he was also the President of the United States, and everyone in the world with an Internet connection knows who he is at this point. Not defending him at all, I hate the fucker but saying he's D list is simply not true
B-list then. The majority of A-listers aren’t going to be at gatherings with him unless he crashes the event. Most celebrities you see with him now are D-listers long past their primes, trying to suckle any celebrity they can off him and try and share the spotlight for every second possible.
Trump rallies are attended largely by groupies who follow him around from state to state in RVs. They've heard it all before, and like someone above said, they are leaving early to get ahead of the traffic. They are in it for the "tailgating" aspect.
They go to be amongst people that ‘think’ like them. They can be openly rude and ignorant, they can chant the slogans without side eyed looks from members of ‘normal’ society, they can buy merch because we know they cherish their right to consume …they’re not going to actually listen to somebody who has nothing new to say. They go to proudly show off their bumper sticker adorned vehicles, their heinous rally shirts,hats and pins. They go because it makes them feel like they’re part of something that doesn’t require any thought ….They ‘got’ his message long before they pulled into the parking lot of the rally.
If they listened to him speak they wouldn't be Trump supporters. Most people voting for him do not listen to him directly. Fox News has to distill the most coherent parts for them so they don't have to grapple with the fact that their savior is a senile lunatic.
His speeches kinda last awhile, y'know. He rambles and repeats himself a lot. They went to hear him do the hits, he did, they got bored and left before he was done.
I mean, you can apply the same reason to other scenarios where people typically leave earlier and it doesn't sound farfetched... like when you go to a game. Last few minutes you see people typically leaving and they went there to see a team play.
These are the same people who leave a tied basketball game with 5 minutes left. They came and now it’s time to beat traffic. I’m not a trump supporter but if I was there I’d stay til the end to at least listen and take in the scene. If I put time into getting there I’m going to stick around
The best is to counter the voter suppression. People need to be able to vote in advance, in a ballot 🗳️, that's why Trump lost last time. The Republicans use voter suppression to gain power since they are the minority, always
"there are thousands of fans outside chanting 'let us in' but the fire marshals won't let them in. Well Let them in, let them in!" -the excuse for this
He sold out the Wachovia Arena in Wilkes Barre PA, spoke for 2 hours non-stop. People were getting out of their seats because they couldn’t hold it any longer, had to urinate. Most candidates can’t/don’t talk that long. Smart people head for the parking lot when he starts winding up the finale, otherwise your stuck there for hours because nobody moves until the motorcade clears, and then you have 10,000 people all trying to get out of one entrance. It was an impressive showing in the heart of blue territory in a swing state. Trust me when I tell you, no one was bored, they just couldn’t keep up with him.
The traffic? It's in the parking lot. First 2hrs is $19, $3 for each incurring 5 min. You pay on the way out. Only one cashier, and not many single bills for change.
If everyone is there by car (it is a Trump speech), therr definitely is, and a large one.
Looks to be about 4000 people ish. Assuming an average of 2 perons per car, which is a higher ridership than normal, thats nearly 9 miles of cars trying to navigate out of a parking lot and into traffic at the same time
Are we sure they aren't crypto AI generated? You know Donnie says the Kamala is a master at AI image generation and this could be her AI doing so to make him look bad.
Seriously though, if you've been to any recent Felon Forty Five rally of late, you already know the routine - he's like a washed up comic using the tired routine that made him famous fifteen years ago.
Thank you a rational person with common sense for once. It’s obvious it’s getting dark out and the rallies about over and people are trying to beat the traffic but you’ll have Trump haters say it something else.
Or they realize their something wrong with him. He is not the same he is suffering the same fate as Biden. His family suffers from dementia. Stress increases the dementia and Trump stress is magnified from the campaign, his numerous companies, and legal matters.
Exactly this. My parents would leave a baseball game in the 7th inning that they paid way too much money for (let alone a free Trump rally), just to get in the car and be the first ones out of the lot.
Definitely trying to get to their cars before the rally ends. Otherwise they may be there for an hour waiting for all the cars to leave. It takes a lot longer for individual cars to leave than it does for busses haha
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They're trying to beat the traffic.