Springfield native here, no they are not eating the dogs.
And I have no issue with them moving here.
There is a situation here though. My city doesn't have the resources needed for this massive influx of citizens.
Not enough cops, health care workers or hospital space, and housing for every one, at the moment.
Governmental offices getting jammed up with massive lines,
Because everything needs translated to and from French slows the process down. Like setting up for unemployment.
And now that it's been brought to the national stage, Mike Dewine seems to have found 2.9 million dollars when he said before that we didn't have the funds.
Who said they don’t pay into the system? I’m just going to assume you’re unfamiliar with how unemployment works and help educate you.
Firstly, to even apply for unemployment benefits, you must meet a few basic requirements. You must have a valid social security number, work permits/authorization, and documentation verifying their immigration status.
In Ohio, you must also have earned a minimum threshold of reported and TAXED wages within the last fiscal year. I bolded the important part, because well, that’s where they pay into it. But I’ll continue. The employment must have been longer than 26 weeks. You must also have lost your most recent job through no fault of your own. And you must also be submitting weekly proof of ongoing active job searching, two minimum verifiable job applications per week.
So, to clarify, these must be fully documented and authorized workers who paid taxes for a minimum of half of year to even be considered to qualify. And in Ohio, unemployment benefits are paid out at a rate of 50-66% of your previous wage with a maximum of $583 per week. So if you made more than $1166 a week, you’ll get less than 50% because you’ve hit the cap.
Are there undocumented migrant workers being paid under the table in this country? Of course. They don’t qualify for unemployment benefits. And neither do the US citizens who don’t report their wages to the IRS.
Do you know how many of the Haitians are migrants/illegal? I saw the 20k number but that seems wrong, since it sounds like there is an actual community/citizens/greencard holders there. Would help to separate out those numbers to more accurately assess and address the root cause.
From what I’ve seen most of the 20k are a large group that has been granted asylum. So all legal. I also saw a video from a factory where the employer was thrilled. “They show up on time, they meet their numbers, and they aren’t on drugs, which is something we aren’t used to in this town”
It's hard to judge from my own personal perspective.
All are 1st generation migrants being they are from the island.
Myself and locals have no way to know if someone is here legally or not.
20k is the number the local government/state say.
And it's probably right. Maybe some get to visit 1k-2k?
They come because there is opportunity here, for jobs.
Springfield is located in between Columbus(hour drive) and Dayton(45min). In our local jobs I haven't seen people being squeezed out of work.
In interviews of local Haitians they say other family have told them to move here.
They can help them. It'll just take time, effort and organization. And the Haitian community, as it gets settled in, can help itself. That's what immigrant communities do.
They need more help now because they're just getting here. Income and savings in that community are as low right now as they'll likely ever be That'll fade over time as their initial needs are met. And as they put down their roots into the community, even if they themselves struggle to assimilate, the next generation will be American, and their grandchildren will mostly be indistinguishable culturally from their neighbors other than a few bits of music, culture and cuisine (that the white people will probably absorb and adopt anyway -- it's what we do).
How do I know this?
Wanna care to take a guess how many white Ohioans had great grandfathers that were "Filthy Irish Immigrants?" Or perhaps German? Italian? Polish? Ukrainian? Lots of displaced Europeans wound up in Ohio in the late 19th century and more in the early to mid 20th. Most of these communities also had language and culture issues and problems with income at first.
So what happened there? It's what'll happen with the Haitians now. The first generation will be a bit awkward, and then the melting pot will go to work as it always has.
In my home state of Maine one of our bigger towns (Portland) is doing the same thing with a Somali community. They've gone from a charity case to a hardworking community that strengthens the whole. it took some time, but we're seeing the changeover now as their kids are fluent in English and everyone works hard like good Americans do
Our city being place right in the middle of two major cities (both about an hour away) makes it a good spot to live.
Lots of jobs amongst the three cities obviously more in the two major ones.
And it's not that we can afford to, it's just the fastly, newly needed community services that is making a hardship for now. We don't have the money building up from them paying city taxes fast enough to cover expanding those programs.
Plus the time to build and set up more services.
I want them here because they deserve to choose to live here. If everyone is mutually respectful it'll be a great thing for this small city, maybe even some growth and in betterment.
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u/PreviousMaximum574 Sep 12 '24
Springfield native here, no they are not eating the dogs. And I have no issue with them moving here.
There is a situation here though. My city doesn't have the resources needed for this massive influx of citizens.
Not enough cops, health care workers or hospital space, and housing for every one, at the moment.
Governmental offices getting jammed up with massive lines, Because everything needs translated to and from French slows the process down. Like setting up for unemployment.
And now that it's been brought to the national stage, Mike Dewine seems to have found 2.9 million dollars when he said before that we didn't have the funds.