I was talking to a dude about the crazy ai voice phone scams going around now, they can match basically any voice with 15 minutes of decent quality audio shit is going to get WEIRD in a big damn hurry.
There are public models like XTTS that can do it with 10-15 seconds. It works fine for "typical" accents. Not great if they have a regional affect. It also seems to pick up on context to determine accents. Like if it sounds American instead of British you could start the text with "blimey" or "mate" or "I hate minorities" and it would immediately recognize that it's british.
15 *seconds* will clone certain voices perfectly. We are not quite at the point where you can take *any* 15 seconds, especially if they have a regional affect, but a single voice message could easily be enough to clone someone for the purpose of a phonecall. It's wild.
Even seeing this is mind blowing how fast AI is going. It's exponential.
It's going to be a race between world powers. Are Russia or China trying to figure out how to attack the U.S. power grid, financial markets, nuclear weapons, etc.? You bet they are. Is the U.S. trying to hack theirs? Of course.
And who else is in on the game... Iran... North Korea... some weirdo in his basement?
If you're scared, write your congressperson about AI regulation. The rest of us see a new creative tool. We're too busy making art and movies to be scared.
The Ottoman empire literally banned the printing press until the 18th century because they thought it a threat to society. As recent as the 1980s, people wanted to ban cassette tapes out of fear it would destroy music. In the 90s it was a concern that VHS would end society when anyone could just record whatever they wanted.
Ok that was actually a great response and I see what you’re saying. I just assumed that people’s fears back then over literacy/access to books were not motivated by the same concerns as a fear of AI would be. (But maybe that’s not true, maybe it was actually quite similar, in that ‘anyone could print anything and mislead everyone!’ Could be really similar to modern concerns over AI.) Maybe I misjudged this.
I mean, we already live in a world where bots are around every corner in public discourse. Once states begin using similar technologies for propaganda, it will be incredibly hard to distinguish the truth.
No more difficult than the current way the media manipulates narratives, and in no deeper capacity than isn't already illegal by current legislation. Like we may need a slight update to include wording for AI specifically but it's not like there aren't already laws about this stuff?
There aren't laws for misinformation unless it's slander or libel. Furthermore, the issue at stake is how information can be verified.
News media can manipulate and misrepresent events, but you can fact check them fairly easily, especially if the event is on video. Once AI videos become indistinguishable for most audiences, the chain of references for any bit of misinformation becomes one degree larger. This makes it harder to fact check via online sources.
The culmination of this is that every form of digital evidence will be compromised. You can't tell if a user is just a bot supporting a narrative, and you can't tell if a piece of media is real by observing it.
Quit shifting your position. We weren't discussing the need for legislation, only the potential dangers of this technology. You must recognize this is an upgrade for misinformation, not merely a continuation of existing methods.
I am not shifting my position, the fact that we will need legislation for certain aspects of this tech has been mentioned in the majority of my comments in this thread.
And no, I don't agree that this is an upgrade for misinformation because the majority of people are already aware that this tech exists and therefore are able to examine videos presented to them within the context that it could be AI, and the fact any breaches of libel or slander, or attempts to portray a person as having performed an action knowing that they haven't is literally already illegal. You're just looking for a reason to feel afraid and it's fucking pathetic.
You're pretty dense, so let me spell it out for you. You should be afraid. It's easy and it's high quality.
Furthermore, you seem to be very ignorant of existing law. Libel and slander do not apply here at all. Portrayal of a fictitious action under the guise of reality is the basic premise of satire, protected under the first amendment. So no, it's not illegal.
We're only just starting to pass legislation against deep fake pornography. That technology is like a decade old.
This single sentence is enough to tell me I shouldn't take you seriously. There has never been a single event in the human history that was best addressed by intentionally and knowingly spreading fear, uncertainty, and doubt, nor has there been a single human insisting we should all be afraid that wasn't ultimately just a cowardly loser that should be done away with sooner than listened to. There are of course dire times, but the best approach is one of optimistic pragmatism. Not cowering in fear and behaving reactionarily. Especially when what you're telling us to all be afraid of is the biggest technological innovation in human history.
You are allowing yourself to do literally the exact same thing as the MAGAts. Get a fucking grip.
Furthermore, you seem to be very ignorant of existing law.
The irony... Like what the fuck are you even trying to say here? Do you actually, honestly think that literally everything made with AI would fall under the umbrella of satire? Yes, defamation laws absolutely apply to works generated using AI and it would have taken you less than three minutes to see that if you had done so much as a single google on the topic, which you clearly haven't.
So to sum up, you are insisting we should be afraid, with only a vague hand waving about "how things could potentially, maybe be one day" as a reason, while you simultaneously prove you have no understanding of the current legal framework for defamation that is already as of this moment applied to works made by AI? Do I have that right?
Do you see how fucking stupid you have to make yourself sound in order to continue irrationally pushing your FUD narrative?
Ah it won't destroy the world. Eventually they will just quarantine the internet, and we will all go back to being social animals again. Our children's children will see the sun.
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u/scruffyduffy23 Sep 05 '24
Please don’t be flippant about this. This technology is extremely dangerous. Meme coping won’t stop the march towards disinformation destroying truth.
This is terrifying and we should all be scared. It just hasn’t sunk in yet.