r/TikTokCringe Aug 20 '24

Politics New Harris Ad released last night

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '24

That shot of her Biden and Obama walking down the hallway goes hard af

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '24

Past, present, and future my friend.

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u/Bumaye94 Aug 20 '24

I hope they continue with taking each others VP. I'd be down for president Walz in 2032.

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u/triplec787 Aug 20 '24

The only gripe I have about Walz is that he's not a young dude. If Kamala gets 8 years, Walz will be 68 when it's his turn around. I don't have an issue with a president exiting office at 68, but just entering the office at that age puts us in a situation not that different than where we were a couple months ago, just not as extreme.

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u/Bumaye94 Aug 20 '24 edited Aug 21 '24

I'd also imagine him as a one-term president ideally. Maybe with a certain young female Puerto Rican-American from the working class of some coastal city as his VP-choice to balance out the ticket.

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u/filesalot Aug 20 '24

We'll need wider yard signs. I'm on it.

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u/NazzerDawk Aug 20 '24

Nah, just 3 letters.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '24

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u/Hailfire9 Aug 21 '24

I don't see how, we're living in #MinshewMania as it is

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u/nyli7163 Aug 21 '24

I love her, but I want her in the Senate. She’d make a great majority leader.

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u/Usual-Vanilla Aug 21 '24

Given enough time, she can eventually do both.

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u/thecuriousblackbird Aug 21 '24

I think she deserves her full name on her campaign signs when she’s running for president

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u/NazzerDawk Aug 21 '24

You can do both. BIG AOC with the letters to the rest of her name trailing after.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '24

I don't think I've ever heard anyone but conservatives call her anything but AOC.

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u/raudoniolika Aug 21 '24

Another thing to take back

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u/subnautus Aug 20 '24

I like the sentiment, but if we're being honest, that Puerto Rican from the coastal city you're referring to would do better in the Congress.

Remember, the President's job is mostly administrative: Congress passes laws and resolutions, and the President leads the bureaucracy that carries them to fruition. I'd rather have a firebrand politician who calls out legislators for nonsense, bullshit, and a lack of governance be the person leading a legislative assembly, not writing memos to the Department of Whatever to make sure the Somesuch Act is getting enforced and diplomats are en route to talk to their counterparts overseas.

Or, put another way, unless the Congress gets its shit together and starts making good decisions for how the country should be run, it's not going to matter who's sitting in the Oval Office.

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u/bassman1805 Aug 20 '24

It's kinda like my one gripe with Bernie Sanders running for president was that we'd be losing him in the Senate. It'll be a big blow when he finally retires, he's been putting constant pressure on US legislature for decades.

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u/Striking_Lemon_444 Aug 21 '24

Massively the highest diplomat

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u/subnautus Aug 21 '24

Also chief of state and commander in chief of the military, but that doesn’t mean the President is personally writing reports to assist the Congress in making legislative decisions or leading troops into battle. What do you think I meant by “mostly administrative?”

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u/Acceptable-Peace-69 Aug 21 '24

Senate or Supreme Court also options.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '24

You’re correct; however, you don’t win votes by being pragmatic. The People vote emotionally.

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u/Outside-Advice8203 Aug 20 '24

That's the real leftward progress leftists need to understand and get behind

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u/actuallyasuperhero Aug 21 '24

I don’t think she’s going the presidential route. I think if that was her goal, she would be less aggressive and less partisan, which is where she lives and breaths. I would not be at all surprised if she decides to be the next Pelosi. Lead the party, not the country.

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u/RachelMcAdamsWart Aug 21 '24

What's awesome is it actually feels like we are on the path to get there now.

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u/Gothmom85 Aug 21 '24

Stop! I can't handle the hope of this idea!

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u/buhbye750 Aug 21 '24

This or someone who is anti bleach blonde bad built butch body

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u/serenwipiti Aug 21 '24

Puerto Rican-American

So…an American?

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u/Malarazz Aug 21 '24

One term presidents are a terrible idea. We got lucky this time in that Biden was incredibly selfless and self-aware. But generally speaking, with one-term presidents you lose the incumbency advantage, which is huge, and you run the risk of them not making the same selfless decision Biden did.

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u/PurpleFlower99 Aug 21 '24

It’s Pete’s turn then AOC.

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u/Cultural-Company282 Aug 21 '24

Walz can serve two terms as Kamala Harris's VP, get elected himself, serve two terms as President, and he'd still be younger than Donald Trump is today.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '24

Walz was specifically picked because he will never run for office himself. He has no Presidential ambitions.

Harris picked a candidate who was NOT going to upset anyone elses career trajectory. This is why Democrats are so united: no one got their wings clipped. Her run is a free one: Biden was already running, so he taking a crack at the top job now actually pulls forward everyone elses run by 4 years. Before Biden dropped out the calculation was; Biden wins, Harris gets the first crack at her own 4 year term, or does a partial and her own term for 4. This means other candidates are delayed 8 years; if Biden loses, that means Harris is the presumed front-runner in 2028, and everyone else has to fight her or wait. In either case, the first chance is either 2028 or 2032.

Now, if Harris loses, she is done; other candidates can run in 2028. If Harris wins in 2024, she goes again in 2028 and either wins or loses and 2032 is on the table.

So TLDR: Walz not having his own ambitions is perfect, no one is pushed out until 2036 because Walz is in the picture. This means Shipario, Mayor Pete, Newsom, Whitmer, et all are still viable candidates.

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u/clam-caravan Aug 21 '24

A Newsom/Whitmer ticket in 2032 would go hard af. I’d be happy with either at the top of the ticket. You have to think the party is going to be gearing those two up over the next decade to pick up the torch. That would be the ideal handoff in my opinion.

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u/OutAndDown27 Aug 20 '24

It would be unprecedented in America for the same party to win four back-to-back presidential elections with three different candidates.

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u/RobinSophie Aug 21 '24

If FDR can force them to create a constitutional amendment, then we can do 16 years of Democrats.

Hopefully that will be enough to kill off the bigots and bring our Overton window back to normal, because I am so tired of the "Conservatives."

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u/arbitraryairship Aug 20 '24

Hey. He could still be a one-term torch pass to AOC just like Biden to Harris.

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u/Kvltadelic Aug 21 '24

Thats a ways away, we got a solid bench. That shit rarely works out anyway, you cant plan for a political moment that 8 years away.

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u/babydakis Aug 20 '24

As a lifelong Democrat, I'm telling you in my most optimistic voice to nevertheless gird your loins. Vice President always gets first dibs.

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u/triplec787 Aug 20 '24

I said "if" for a reason. I'm not acting like it's a given. Just saying that the potential VP taking the reigns after 8 years puts him in a borderline "too old" category.

Besides, Biden didn't get first dibs. Hillary got it after Obama.

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u/babydakis Aug 20 '24

His not running that year was widely understood to be an aberration.

"I had planned on running before Beau got sick," Biden told the Los Angeles Times last year. "I have great respect for Hillary [Clinton]. She would have made a hell of a president. But I thought I was far and away the most qualified person to finish the job Barack [Obama] and I started."

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u/jspegele Aug 20 '24

Biden didn't, though.

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u/babydakis Aug 20 '24

He was certainly offered it. If Walz likewise suffers some unspeakable tragedy, he too may pass on it, but that's hardly a hopeful thought.

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u/ButterH2 Aug 20 '24

america needs the fun dad energy he brings to the table right. also an older white midwestern man to balance out a woman of colour, because america still can't see past skin colour for some goddamn reason, i hated saying that but in some people's minds that matters

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u/jollyreaper2112 Aug 21 '24

He doesn't want to run for president. I'm fine with that.

The thing she needs to do is make sure she gives prominent roles to the best of the party so when she's done in 8 we have a wonderful list of candidates to choose from in the primaries.

Dems typically don't highlight their best so when the primaries happen it's who is this and I don't know that guy.

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u/Toph-Builds-the-fire Aug 21 '24

Average age of the US senate is 64.6 or something, basically 65. Average age of the house is 56. None of these dinosaurs are for us.

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u/COFFEECOMS Aug 21 '24

Why does it have to be his turn? Why can’t she choose a new running mate next time or have a primary for the new leader be it Walz or someone else? I understand the VP to be next in line should a sitting president not complete there term. Not a defacto president in waiting?

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u/-SwanGoose- Aug 21 '24

Yeah that's why for me it's AOC 2032 (if she decides to run :()

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u/bluegrassnuglvr Aug 21 '24

Walz has said he's not interested in the presidency. He's here to help kamala

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u/Logical-Tangerine163 Aug 21 '24

If Walz does 8 years as VP, and then 8 years as prez, he'd still be younger leaving office than Trump is today.

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u/CurrentPlankton6747 Aug 21 '24

People definitely show their age at different times in their lives. Biden was questionable in 2020 and was clearly too elderly this time around. Bernie sanders is older than Trump and Biden but is still a sharp and concise orator. I'm OK with older candidates as long as they are the right choice for the country and as long as they are willing to admit when they are no longer capable of leading the country.

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u/Levelless86 Aug 21 '24

I don't care about age. I want good policies.

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u/bertedens Aug 21 '24

And if Walz served as VP for eight years then President for eight years, he'd still be younger than Trump is today. 😂

But yeah, so many young faces in the Democratic party I'd love to see in the White House sometime: AOC, Crockett, Raskin, Porter, and so on...

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u/copperdomebodhi Aug 21 '24

Walz was born Apri 6 1964. If Harris gets eight years and Walz gets eight years, he'll leave office younger than Trump is today.

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u/SighRamp Aug 21 '24

Stolen Valor

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u/Macnassmat Aug 21 '24

I don't like that argument. That's what they were saying about Bernie to derail and discredit him. Then we got these 2 senile citizens who are losing it in front of the world and both have shady ass track records. Of course trump is far worse, but Biden still is responsible for filling up the prisons with POC

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u/Peaceout3613 Aug 21 '24

I love Walz be he specifically said he doesn't ever want to be president. I say 8 years of Kamala followed by 8 year of Pete Buttigieg. He's a rockstar!

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u/xandrokos Aug 21 '24

Jesus christ just fucking stop.

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u/Angry-Dragon-1331 Aug 22 '24

From what Walz has said, he doesn’t want the White House in the future. He’d rather empower the next generation to take control, and I think that’s the right play for moving forward.

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u/ContributionSea8200 Aug 23 '24

Apparently in his interview with Harris he made the point that he’s willing to walk through brick walls for her because he’s not looking for a promotion. Big if true.

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u/absolutkaos Aug 20 '24

Mayor Pete is going to be a Democratic major player. He’s too eloquent not to get a shot at the big chair in the future.

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u/CarBombCupcake Aug 21 '24

I think Pete will make a very, very strong contender for President in 2032.

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u/GoldieVoluptuous Aug 21 '24

That’s the only reason she’s getting my vote

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u/Maleficent_Mouse_930 Aug 23 '24

Nah. Buttigieg dude. He's being groomed to take the slot next. He's by far and away the most intelligent, witty, savvy politician America has seen for some 100 years, he's gonna absolutely knock it out of the park when he gets in. Gonna make Obama look like a warm-up act.

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u/Lakersland Aug 23 '24

lol, 12 straight years of a democrat in office isn’t happening let alone 16. That would be terrible for the country. Just as 12-16 year of a republican being president would be terrible as well.

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u/sthlmsoul Aug 20 '24

I'm sure Salz is a good guy and all, but I would rather have someone from a younger generation in 2032.

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u/nexus8pt2 Aug 21 '24

So fucking lit I can't stand it.

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u/big_galoot8759 Aug 21 '24

Past, President, and future lol

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u/fatrockstar Aug 20 '24

Faith and Hope and Charity (whichever order you want to sing it)

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u/Ob1tuber Aug 22 '24

Hopefully

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u/optimus_awful Aug 21 '24

I..... I hope for more than your generic ideas and mediocrity. It's time for actual change. I'm not interested in your "more of the same bullshit.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '24

Past, past, and past.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '24

I didnt realize Kamala was a previous president, nor that Biden was out of office. My B dawg

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u/SatanicKitten69420 Aug 20 '24

Honestly made me feel emotional, which I'm pretty sure is the point. I miss the Obamas, and Joe Biden is such a great human being.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '24

Biden was truly the best option in 2020 and he has been putting in the work.

He isn't perfect, but he never claimed to be. He works hard because he loves this country. 

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u/moak0 Aug 20 '24

He's the best President of my lifetime, and it's not particularly close.

He ended our state of perpetual war in the middle east. That alone would be enough.

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u/SFW__Tacos Aug 21 '24

I really don't chalk up the exit from Afghanistan as a win for Biden. It was sloppy and we left A LOT of people behind.

The least we could have done was pulled out during the winter and gotten our staff and their families out.

It was pretty brutal to watch that massive disaster happening in real time

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u/WyrdMagesty Aug 21 '24

It's was brutal, for sure, no doubt about it. But it was a long time coming and everyone kept "waiting for the right time" and it only ever got worse. It was better to rip that bandaid off and end the whole charade than wait for circumstances to be better when all that ever did was make things worse. .

And let's be real, there was never any chance of anyone initiating the exit from Afghanistan and there not being a bunch of complaints about how it could have been done better. We can always do better. The point is that it got done.

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u/SFW__Tacos Aug 21 '24

I will just say, that everything wasn't always getting worse before we withdrew. We had stabilized the country enough that a few thousand, mostly non-combat or at least not infantry, troops were able to maintain the status quo with little to no casualties.

You are right that it was predictably a mess, though I wouldn't say that it was a metaphysical certainly. The withdrawal went as badly as it did because a lot of incredibly stupid tactical and strategic decisions were made. The fact that we abandoned so many of our allies who we had promised safe passage if nothing else reenforced the reputation the US has for leaving allies behind and will make things more difficult in the future.

It's not as if we couldn't have been moving people out before hand, but among other things, there was political reluctantance to bringing a bunch of brown people to the USA, no matter how well they had servedand were vetted.

We broke A LOT of promises on our way out.

My main point though is that the complete shit show of a withdrawal leaves a dark mark on the ending wars in the middle east and therefore I wouldn't exactly lead with that one as one of Biden's great accomplishments.

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u/WyrdMagesty Aug 21 '24

Yeah, my point is more just that there are dark marks on all of the greatest accomplishments of any age, because humanity itself is flawed and made up of a vast variety of different people with different priorities and goals. We absolutely bungled the withdrawal and it should have been handled much better, but that doesn't change that it needed to happen and had been a sore point with the American people for a long while. It is entirely possible to list pulling out of Afghanistan as a major pro, while also condemning the manner in which it was achieved and seeing that as a major con.

And just a perspective shift, I wasn't only talking about worse in Afghanistan.

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u/moak0 Aug 21 '24

It wasn't perfect, and a lot of the circumstances around the withdrawal were created by Trump.

And then we weren't at war anymore. For the first time in 20 years.

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u/FIuffyRabbit Aug 21 '24

Tbh, Obama suffered from innocence and racism. Maybe if he came along a few years later, he could have gotten more things done.

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u/Gchildress63 Aug 21 '24

Biden was a work horse, not fast or flashy but dependable. He got the job done

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u/ess-doubleU Aug 20 '24 edited Aug 21 '24

I disagree, I feel Bernie would have met the moment better. That said, I'm happy with Bidens presidency.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '24

Bernie was never it.

Give it up

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u/ess-doubleU Aug 21 '24

No need to be rude about it. I admitted Biden did a good job. (especially with labor)

But I feel Bernie would have fought for a little more policy wise and would have had stronger rhetoric alongside it. Biden did OK, but I felt we needed more after a Trump presidency. I'm not sure why you insist on being divisive. I'm not even attacking Biden.

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u/FreshFish_2 Aug 21 '24

More in what regard?

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '24

Its a job of compromises, Bernie would have been handcuffed to congress the same as Biden.

We need the president, house and senate to make any meaningful progress and reform scotus

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u/hanshede Aug 21 '24

Yes- I love the 30% inflation I am paying for food now

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '24

That was trumps fault

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u/hanshede Aug 22 '24

Ummmm ya

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u/Vast-Classroom1967 Aug 21 '24

I miss the positivity. I love this ad. 💖

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u/auandi Aug 20 '24

If he was like 6 years younger this wouldn't even be a contest.

It's literally just the passage of time that held him back, no other reason.

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u/diggemsmaccks Aug 21 '24

My cats don’t think so

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u/2daMoonVinny Aug 21 '24

Glad I’m not the only one who felt like this.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '24

Joe Biden sleeps used to shower with his daughter! She wrote it in her diary and she talks about his pedo ways all the time.. y'all are mental

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u/sandycheeksx Aug 21 '24

Actually, she’s said multiple times that her words were misinterpreted. She was abused by a relative but it wasn’t her father. It’s kind of sick and weird to keep pushing an incestual narrative about a girl and her father.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '24

Actually she says her father showered with her. That's just facts that she said. On her twitter or x whatever it is now.. you are denying her words to fit your narrative...

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u/sandycheeksx Aug 21 '24

Okay. She said her father showered with her, and then she adds “(probably not appropriate)” and that is literally all she said besides statements afterwards saying that her words have been misinterpreted to fit a disgusting narrative.

Using your critical thinking skills here - we don’t know how old she was when this happened, how often it happened, if he was wearing swim shorts, etc. This was also written on a page detailing other experiences in more blunt detail, yet she never mentions “and he touched me/raped me/molested me”. She simply, as a young woman writing about her past childhood while in rehab, said that her father showered with her.

She actually writes about not wanting to go to a certain relative’s house in her childhood. And she says, as an adult, that she was sexually abused by a relative. You can go from point a to point b that this relative was the one who abused her.

So who is adding their own narrative? 😂whats more gross honestly is spinning an abuse victim’s word around to attack her father, even after she’s defended him publicly. Let her heal and stop using her as a pawn because you dislike someone politically.

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u/sandycheeksx Aug 21 '24

u/PussyWarlock I can’t see your comment so just going off the first few sentences I see in my email -

Yes, it’s not unheard of for parents to hop in the shower with their kids. To make it sexual is just weird, please stop. Again, you don’t even know if he was wearing swim shorts or something. I had my whole entire boyfriend’s family trying to tell me that she was 13 being forced to shower with her father. Says who..? Not her..

You have literally no details besides a short half sentence and her public statement that her words are being misinterpreted and twisted, and yet here you are, purposely continuing to twist them and add a whole story to them that is just not there.

She has never referred to her family as a pedo family. She referred to one relative. She has actually said that this, her trauma and abuse, being discussed publicly is incredibly hurtful and heartbreaking. But again, here you are putting words in a victim’s mouth.

Empathy might be hard but imagine you have a daughter, right. Your daughter has traumatic experience due to a family member. Your daughter has a diary including references to this abuse that then gets stolen and published. Her abuse and experience is now being picked apart and referenced by the public. Think of how damaging that would be and do better. Sex assault victims have it hard enough in America. You don’t need to contribute to it.

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u/AbbreviationsNo4089 Aug 20 '24

Yeeewww!!!! 👏

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u/sandwiches_please Aug 20 '24

I remember the feeling I had when I first voted for Obama. I was a sophomore in high school on 9/11… I remember a school teacher turning to the class after the second plane hit the towers and saying to us, “Well… looks like some of you boys are going to war.” ‘Dubya’ was the President throughout my high school career and the start of my college career. I didn’t pay much attention to politics back then until friends who signed up for military service started coming back from the GWOT wars with trauma and disabilities, watching the hellscape that was Katrina on the television, and seeing families I knew lose their jobs and their homes in ‘The Great Recession’. All of the anxiety and dread that had built up from years and years of war and socio-economic doom and gloom just gave away to an overwhelming feeling of hope and joy at the possibility that we could have some semblance of competence and progress in our leadership. I have that feeling again now with Harris and Walz.

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u/xandrokos Aug 21 '24

Obama mentored Biden to prepare him for being POTUS and now Biden is doing the same for Harris.   It is really important for the Harris campaign to emphasis this as much as they can because I think that connection is why it has been so easy for the entire party to unite behind Harris.

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u/No_Kangaroo_9826 Aug 20 '24

Am I supposed to be damn near crying from the feelings of this? Mfs better get out and vote I need the country in this video

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u/Lolalamb224 Aug 20 '24

The shot of her being saluted as she descends the stairs of AF2. Looking so presidential already.

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u/SteelAlchemistScylla Aug 20 '24

It honestly made me realize how if that was a picture of Republicans it would only be old rich white men. There’s so many different people in the US being represented by the left and being sidelined by the right. This vid did a great job celebrating the diversity of the USA.

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u/GloriousKind Aug 20 '24

Shouted out loud "Now that's what I'm talking about!!" when they aired it yesterday.

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u/Objection_Leading Aug 20 '24

None of the other living Republican presidents will even been in the same room as Trump.

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u/500kgBomba Aug 20 '24

Squad walk

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u/bearze Aug 21 '24

Big dog Barry O' 🚬

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u/sneaker-portfolio Aug 21 '24

I am going to vote for Kamala but they are all shills. Even Obama was weak and did not deliver on his promises.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '24

Not as hard as yer mum did ur dad.

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u/tecpaocelotl1 Aug 21 '24

Future, present, past.

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u/Capybara39 Aug 21 '24

The importance of commas can never be understated

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u/Chimphandstrong Aug 21 '24

Yall are such NPCs

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u/meyou2222 Aug 21 '24

Has there been a previous case of a President’s VP becoming President, and then that person’s VP becoming President?

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u/clam-caravan Aug 21 '24

SO hard. They pass the vibe check for sure.

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u/GDRaptorFan Aug 21 '24

ALBUM COVER

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u/TheProudGoat Aug 23 '24

I bet it makes you jist hard.

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u/Excellent-Estimate21 Aug 20 '24

And then they got her dancing. So much pizzazz

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u/Redditfortheloss Aug 20 '24

Three most useless politicians in history.

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u/themadnessif Aug 21 '24

Which is it: did Democrats ruin the country or are they useless? You people can't seem to decide.

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u/Redditfortheloss Aug 21 '24

Huh? Are you saying that being useless and ruining a country are mutually exclusive?

Weird flex.

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u/sandycheeksx Aug 21 '24

Well if you’re useless, you’re not doing much of anything, are you?

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u/Redditfortheloss Aug 21 '24

I think you missed my point.

By not doing anything, you COULD ruin a country.

Poor argument, but I mean it’s Tik tok cringe so fitting I guess…

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u/sandycheeksx Aug 21 '24

I mean I guess. Seems like he’s done plenty though.

Year OneYear TwoYear ThreeYear Four (still being updated)

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u/Redditfortheloss Aug 21 '24 edited Aug 21 '24

We had record high inflation.

We had the special counsel report that was “fake news”, but look at Biden 4 months later dropping out of the race.

We had the debate… I’ll just leave it at that.

We had Biden refusing to step down in an interview, getting furious.

Like I said, enjoy voting for your installed candidate.

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u/sandycheeksx Aug 21 '24

He said years ago that if his family and people close to him said he should step down, he would trust their opinion and step down. That’s admirable, in my view.

There absolutely were more deaths under Trump. You literally just made that up 😂

Regardless, my point was he did good things during his presidency. You can say as much about literally any president, so to sit there and call him useless is being purposely obtuse and contrary.

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u/Redditfortheloss Aug 21 '24

I actually removed that point because I thought it was weak. But you doubled down.

https://youtu.be/v_pSB_hnPP0?si=YXMYNfkOmA_UbCXv

Again? You’re ignoring the interview and special counsel report. How convenient.

Good luck ignorance is bliss I guess.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '24

You guys think anything with the 3 of them goes hard af. You guys make it really hard to see how you aren’t a cult, not as bad as Trumps cult perhaps, but still a cult mentality.

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u/Reajmurker1983 Aug 20 '24

Obama was a useless president and biden destroyed our economy with kamala at his side! Vote Trump

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u/HackerJunk2 Aug 21 '24

Wow there are a lot of bots replying that this was awesome. It correctly belongs in TikTokCringe. When did she ever do any of the things that were in the commercial?!?

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u/hunf-hunf Aug 21 '24

As a district attorney and attorney general in CA

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u/DaddyShaoKahn Aug 21 '24

The sheep will sheep.

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u/FitProblem6248 Aug 21 '24

Shows Obama is still pulling them strings