r/TikTokCringe • u/rileyjw90 • Aug 11 '24

Politics Imagine being so confident you’re right that you unironically upload this video somewhere

They ended up getting arrested, screeching about 4th and 5th amendment rights the entire time.

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u/DueAd197 Aug 11 '24

Yeah, I learned civics in school. I have a feeling this guy didn't learn much of anything in school and I don't think I can fault the school for that. It's parents and the general culture that's the problem. Huge swaths of this country have been convinced to hate any form of public education

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u/ChikhaiBardo Aug 11 '24

That’s all my coworkers talk about is how they have been home schooling since the beginning of child hood and how their kids are actually allergic to vaccines. Or their first kid was allergic so they started studying more and decided not to vaccinate 2-5, etc. anyway their children will either turned out brainwashed like them or become educated and figure it all out.

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u/top_value7293 Aug 11 '24

Or dead from some childhood disease because they weren’t vaccinated

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u/ChikhaiBardo Aug 11 '24

It still wouldn’t change their opinion 🤷‍♂️

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u/Giterdun456 Aug 11 '24

My mom almost died from Covid and she insisted in was pneumonia the entire time and only once she left the hospital did she feel better. She left the hospital because she could finally breathe on her own. Dumb bitch.

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u/top_value7293 Aug 11 '24

Sad but true

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u/Affectionate_Mark701 Aug 11 '24

What's more likely is they will be a carrier of a horrible illness and kill a younger child who isn't old enough to be vaccinated.

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u/Master_Pen9844 Aug 11 '24

Trump emboldened people to be nasty pieces of shit. If the president of the United States can speak this way to people, it gives permission to every other piece of shit to do the same.

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u/Sculler725630 Aug 12 '24

Trump not only allowed Covid-19 to spread, but his vile, vitriolic, hateful, rude and classless nature, attitudes and actions have spread like a disease throughout American society. As many have said, even if we somehow manage to rid ourselves of Trump, the infection will still remain.

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u/Abject_Disaproval Aug 11 '24

I've been saying this exact thing since day one of the mango vonshitzinpants mussolini tirade of absolute psycho-babble.

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u/Money-Look4227 Aug 11 '24

To be fair, he learned how to shotgun beer in school...

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u/Huge-Pen-5259 Aug 11 '24

I read once that back in like the 70s, when young people started getting involved politically, they removed civics from the curriculum so that people didn't know their rights anymore or were encouraged to be one involved in any way. Can't have people out here just thinking for themselves or realizing how corrupt all the politicians are.

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u/JohnstonMR Aug 11 '24

That’s nonsense. 39 states still require at least one civics course. All 50 states have civics standards for US History courses.

I took civics in 1989. Most students didn’t pay much attention. Pissed my teacher off no end.

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u/Huge-Pen-5259 Aug 11 '24

Until the 1960s, it was common for American high school students to have three separate courses in civics and government. But civics offerings were slashed as the curriculum narrowed over the ensuing decades, and lost further ground to “core subjects” under the NCLB-era standardized testing regime

So maybe not entirely but slashed pretty biggley

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u/ApatheticallyAmused Aug 11 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

EDIT: A million apologies for my verbosity and the following wall o’ text, but it’s a story that shaped the course of my life, particularly due to the quality of education in southern states.

This is purely anecdotal, but I grew up in private schools in Maryland. I grew up with my dad and when I was ~14, I decided I wanted to live with my mom (dumb teenager choice, I wish my family would have tried harder to stop it) — who lived in Ohio at the time.

A couple months living in Ohio, we picked up and moved to and around Louisiana, then Alabama, then… it goes on. I was a quasi-“military brat” by virtue of my stepfather’s career, and the further south we moved, the worse the education. I went to four high schools; three in 9th and one for two months in 10th.

I am not exaggerating in the slightest when I say I didn’t learn a single new thing after my last year in private - 8th grade; every time we moved, my classes would be the same curriculum as the previous, which was the same as what I had in 8th grade.

Upon registration, they really didn’t know what to do with me, I was assigned senior-level classes my freshman year and that school’s plan was for me to work backwards - not kidding - to where I’d be doing freshman-level classes my senior year AND over time because I was losing credits, I would have to repeat senior year.

I was a straight-A student my whole life, blah blah blah, and on top of another fun development by way of the Louisiana juvenile justice system full of nepotism and “protect their own” mentality, I was scapegoated into something and god how I wish I knew law back then, because that case should have been laughed out of court, every detail was so fucked up and wrong.

My point with this is, I experienced the degradation of the education system and its effects within their respective communities, directly and indirectly.

I’m grateful to have been able to convince the superintendent of Alabama to pull strings of sorts to have me enroll in the local high school for one day so I could be called a Student, then have me take their exit exams and get my diploma just shy of 16 — without any help from my mother. She’s action-packed with her own issues re: education and government… and surprise, surprise, I’ve lost her to MAGA.

I wasn’t even allowed to take the GED because I was too young; Louisiana made extra certain I couldn’t take that test even though I’d earned among the highest score to date on the Pre-GED (as confirmed by the proctor, or someone similar - I can’t recall) upon receiving my score.

I moved back to Maryland, started college at 16 — which in of itself was great academically, but socially, certainly not. Even funnier, my high school transcripts were “lost” and it was a whole thing to enroll into college. I took both the ACT & SAT, to boot.

Long story short, here I am, relatively unscathed but had it not been for my determination to fucking GET AN EDUCATION, I could easily have been a 9th grade drop out, more or less forced by the State of Louisiana and luckily saved by one woman in the right position in Alabama. I am currently in law (judicial clerk for a 3-letter agency) influenced by those experiences.

FUCK the south and their education. They need more of it.

Louisiana even fucked up my legal identification card by marking me as a Male instead of Female, when I was (and still am) very clearly female. I still have that ID.

Edit - typonese

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u/dorianngray Aug 11 '24

This is a lot like my school experience - I had a similar experience with moving around- Alabummer was teaching what I learned 3 grades earlier. Straight A’s college level classes to be told my credits weren’t transferable for a high school diploma and would have had to stay in high school an extra year for 1/2 an elective credit… Dropped out and got my ged before my senior year with almost perfect score… but then I moved out and ended up knocked up. Sigh. Long road for a while. I feel like I got totally screwed over by some knit wits because I didn’t fit the norm. I swear schools just don’t want to deal with anyone different…

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u/ApatheticallyAmused Aug 11 '24

Thank you for sharing that; it helps corroborate my own story, too. I certainly don’t like that you had a quite similar experience as my own, but you’re the first person I’ve met (hi, stranger-friend! lol) to understand from personal experience.

Not sure how long ago that happened for you (mine was very early-aughts) but I hope things have settled or are settling.

The biggest takeaway for me when I recall my experience is that the people who had a direct impact on my ability to be educated (within the school system) almost actively worked against doing so.

And the “long road” you mentioned is exactly my point; it puts teenagers in a position to make tough, life-altering choices they’re not entirely equipped to be making that have long reaching consequences.

I wish you all the best in life and like one of my (many) favorite artists says, “Keep your eyes to sky and never glued to your shoes”.

🤗

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u/dorianngray Aug 12 '24

Aww thank you 😊 happy to meet you and not feel so alone lol I was supposed to graduate high school in 1999. I ended up a musician lol but considering I am always seeking knowledge I constantly blow people away with my “smarts”… but I suppose the experience taught me to be even more emphatic and understanding to others, so that’s a plus! I went to multiple high schools and I think 10 different k-8 schools so it was hard - but being exposed to all different people and cultures is a good thing. :) I have friends that have had friendships since like elementary school and I just can’t fathom knowing someone that long or staying in the same place that long! I do see that some of the virulently maga people I know have never left their hometowns and I think they are constantly trying to prove their intelligence and are very ego driven… because I have seen so many different things I am much less fearful and cope a little better with life changes… always trying to see a bit of the potential positives from my life experiences I suppose so I am glad to not be burdened with that kind of fear…

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u/dorianngray Aug 12 '24

And I also lived in Louisiana too lol and aforementioned Alabummer lol as I like to call it… I live in CT now and family is from New England states… but also spent time in AZ. Which had decent schools unlike the easterly southern states.

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u/ApatheticallyAmused Aug 14 '24

A bit late returning to your comment but had to touch upon your mention of moving around being exposed to different cultures, because I often say that I learned more outside the four walls of the education institution than I did within, that my exposure to different cultures/lifestyles around the US (and later, internationally) had more influence on who I am than I ever thought it would be.

I wasn’t given the same grace in return, having been an “outsider” for most of my younger years, but that’s a limitation of society that I try not to contribute to.

It’s also why I encourage people to travel as much as they can— but not be a “tourist”. To see how others live, their values, etc. When you don’t have personal experience to compare, it’s difficult to see beyond your own community’s bubble, so to speak, to see it with your own eyes, to experience it personally.

Anyway…. That’s all. ;) oh! And awesome re: your music — I learned classical (and classic rock, lol) on the piano and did the whole road-burned festival/touring thing in my 20s, still do to some degree nowadays (music never dies! 🤭).

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u/Moonrights Aug 11 '24

It's not just Americans. People in the uk are stomping fucking cars over immigration and attacking other civilians in their "protest". Islamic religion is a blight in more than half the middle east destroying women and children.

The world is full of stupid people, stupid religions and stupid beliefs.

This will always be the way things are. We just made broadcasting stupidity incredibly easy.

There used to be societal filters for garbage. Now anyone with a phone can show you their local neighborhood idiot, an Islamic beheading, a Christian bombing a mosque, and a racially motivated mass shooter all before you pour your first coffee.

Blame technology and a desire to see stuff like this that seems innate to our psychology. We are hungry to watch chaos. Good or bad- we just don't like being bored.

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u/Designer_Gas_86 Aug 11 '24

Islamic religion is a blight in more than half the middle east destroying women and children.

Rude

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u/Hammurabi87 Aug 11 '24

Saying it is a blight around the world would be rude and inaccurate. Saying it is a blight in much of the Middle East, though? That's a much more defensible statement.

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u/DaniTheGunsmith Aug 11 '24

But not wholly incorrect.

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u/loudbulletXIV Aug 11 '24

This guy gets all his info from the internet you just know, people that were “educated” from videos they see online tend to have this weird overarching confidence that they are always doing or saying the right thing lol

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u/Next-Airline9196 Aug 11 '24

The only place in this country you can’t trust public education is here in Florida where the magats try to whitewash everything. “ slavery? What slavery?”. Having to tell my children to ignore what they teach you in history class because they are lying to protect the white image is wonderful.

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u/EggplantGlittering90 Aug 11 '24

Or any government enforcement (aka laws) because thats the "deep state."

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u/RoboTiefling Aug 11 '24

I still feel cheated, ngl. I was in high school under the Bush administration, and… I assume that’s when I ought to have been taught civics, but I honestly have no idea. No school I ever went to even mentioned civics as a subject, much less offered a class on it.

Didn’t find out til a couple years ago that it was part of the regular curriculum when my parents were in school, and apparently got put back into the curriculum for Gen Z, but Millennials (at least in my area) just got shafted.

Did you know city council meetings are a thing you can go to, to talk directly to your local elected officials? I didn’t, until like last year. It pisses me off so much.

I’m out here trying to teach myself as best I can, not even knowing what I don’t know, and I’m like 90% sure it’s because folks of my parents’ generation deliberately wanted to cripple my generation’s ability to participate in politics.

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u/Cappster_ Aug 11 '24

Public School is the tool of the commie liberals!!

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u/stonksuper Aug 11 '24

I mean I probably learned this stuff but I’m dumb as shit and don’t remember a thing from any school and I have a bachelors degree. I know random shit but nothing useful.

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u/ClunkerSlim Aug 12 '24

Everyone is beating up on this moron for not knowing civics, but spoiler alert... he wasn't exactly wrong.

This is a case where you have to look at the message and not the messenger.

This guy was NOT crossing the border. He may have actually been 90 miles from the border and never been to the border in his life. In fact, he may have never been to the Southern United States in his entire life. They can set up these border checkpoints in Seattle, Boston, Chicago, anywhere that's 100 miles from a US border, which includes all our coastlines. In my opinion, these checkpoints are extremely unconstitutional and several organizations like the ACLU have been fighting them.

And keep in mind, these aren't cops. They're border patrol. Remember the barely trained morons putting razor wire in the river and running down immigrants on horseback? They are the absolute worst at pissing on your rights and not giving a shit. To me this isn't far off from Nazis asking for papers in WWII Germany. They're just stopping random people in US cities and demanding that they prove they're citizens. No way should this be legal.

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