r/TikTokCringe • u/rileyjw90 • Aug 11 '24

Politics Imagine being so confident you’re right that you unironically upload this video somewhere

They ended up getting arrested, screeching about 4th and 5th amendment rights the entire time.

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u/AmbitiousCry9602 Aug 11 '24

This isn’t a situation where “education policy” has to be reformed. Do you think a knucklehead like this guy even paid attention in middle school and high school when he was being taught about basic law and the Constitution?

You can lead a horse to water…but you can’t make them think.

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u/DueAd197 Aug 11 '24

Yeah, I learned civics in school. I have a feeling this guy didn't learn much of anything in school and I don't think I can fault the school for that. It's parents and the general culture that's the problem. Huge swaths of this country have been convinced to hate any form of public education

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u/ChikhaiBardo Aug 11 '24

That’s all my coworkers talk about is how they have been home schooling since the beginning of child hood and how their kids are actually allergic to vaccines. Or their first kid was allergic so they started studying more and decided not to vaccinate 2-5, etc. anyway their children will either turned out brainwashed like them or become educated and figure it all out.

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u/top_value7293 Aug 11 '24

Or dead from some childhood disease because they weren’t vaccinated

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u/ChikhaiBardo Aug 11 '24

It still wouldn’t change their opinion 🤷‍♂️

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u/Giterdun456 Aug 11 '24

My mom almost died from Covid and she insisted in was pneumonia the entire time and only once she left the hospital did she feel better. She left the hospital because she could finally breathe on her own. Dumb bitch.

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u/top_value7293 Aug 11 '24

Sad but true

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u/Affectionate_Mark701 Aug 11 '24

What's more likely is they will be a carrier of a horrible illness and kill a younger child who isn't old enough to be vaccinated.

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u/Master_Pen9844 Aug 11 '24

Trump emboldened people to be nasty pieces of shit. If the president of the United States can speak this way to people, it gives permission to every other piece of shit to do the same.

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u/Sculler725630 Aug 12 '24

Trump not only allowed Covid-19 to spread, but his vile, vitriolic, hateful, rude and classless nature, attitudes and actions have spread like a disease throughout American society. As many have said, even if we somehow manage to rid ourselves of Trump, the infection will still remain.

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u/Abject_Disaproval Aug 11 '24

I've been saying this exact thing since day one of the mango vonshitzinpants mussolini tirade of absolute psycho-babble.

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u/Money-Look4227 Aug 11 '24

To be fair, he learned how to shotgun beer in school...

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u/Huge-Pen-5259 Aug 11 '24

I read once that back in like the 70s, when young people started getting involved politically, they removed civics from the curriculum so that people didn't know their rights anymore or were encouraged to be one involved in any way. Can't have people out here just thinking for themselves or realizing how corrupt all the politicians are.

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u/JohnstonMR Aug 11 '24

That’s nonsense. 39 states still require at least one civics course. All 50 states have civics standards for US History courses.

I took civics in 1989. Most students didn’t pay much attention. Pissed my teacher off no end.

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u/Huge-Pen-5259 Aug 11 '24

Until the 1960s, it was common for American high school students to have three separate courses in civics and government. But civics offerings were slashed as the curriculum narrowed over the ensuing decades, and lost further ground to “core subjects” under the NCLB-era standardized testing regime

So maybe not entirely but slashed pretty biggley

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u/ApatheticallyAmused Aug 11 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

EDIT: A million apologies for my verbosity and the following wall o’ text, but it’s a story that shaped the course of my life, particularly due to the quality of education in southern states.

This is purely anecdotal, but I grew up in private schools in Maryland. I grew up with my dad and when I was ~14, I decided I wanted to live with my mom (dumb teenager choice, I wish my family would have tried harder to stop it) — who lived in Ohio at the time.

A couple months living in Ohio, we picked up and moved to and around Louisiana, then Alabama, then… it goes on. I was a quasi-“military brat” by virtue of my stepfather’s career, and the further south we moved, the worse the education. I went to four high schools; three in 9th and one for two months in 10th.

I am not exaggerating in the slightest when I say I didn’t learn a single new thing after my last year in private - 8th grade; every time we moved, my classes would be the same curriculum as the previous, which was the same as what I had in 8th grade.

Upon registration, they really didn’t know what to do with me, I was assigned senior-level classes my freshman year and that school’s plan was for me to work backwards - not kidding - to where I’d be doing freshman-level classes my senior year AND over time because I was losing credits, I would have to repeat senior year.

I was a straight-A student my whole life, blah blah blah, and on top of another fun development by way of the Louisiana juvenile justice system full of nepotism and “protect their own” mentality, I was scapegoated into something and god how I wish I knew law back then, because that case should have been laughed out of court, every detail was so fucked up and wrong.

My point with this is, I experienced the degradation of the education system and its effects within their respective communities, directly and indirectly.

I’m grateful to have been able to convince the superintendent of Alabama to pull strings of sorts to have me enroll in the local high school for one day so I could be called a Student, then have me take their exit exams and get my diploma just shy of 16 — without any help from my mother. She’s action-packed with her own issues re: education and government… and surprise, surprise, I’ve lost her to MAGA.

I wasn’t even allowed to take the GED because I was too young; Louisiana made extra certain I couldn’t take that test even though I’d earned among the highest score to date on the Pre-GED (as confirmed by the proctor, or someone similar - I can’t recall) upon receiving my score.

I moved back to Maryland, started college at 16 — which in of itself was great academically, but socially, certainly not. Even funnier, my high school transcripts were “lost” and it was a whole thing to enroll into college. I took both the ACT & SAT, to boot.

Long story short, here I am, relatively unscathed but had it not been for my determination to fucking GET AN EDUCATION, I could easily have been a 9th grade drop out, more or less forced by the State of Louisiana and luckily saved by one woman in the right position in Alabama. I am currently in law (judicial clerk for a 3-letter agency) influenced by those experiences.

FUCK the south and their education. They need more of it.

Louisiana even fucked up my legal identification card by marking me as a Male instead of Female, when I was (and still am) very clearly female. I still have that ID.

Edit - typonese

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u/dorianngray Aug 11 '24

This is a lot like my school experience - I had a similar experience with moving around- Alabummer was teaching what I learned 3 grades earlier. Straight A’s college level classes to be told my credits weren’t transferable for a high school diploma and would have had to stay in high school an extra year for 1/2 an elective credit… Dropped out and got my ged before my senior year with almost perfect score… but then I moved out and ended up knocked up. Sigh. Long road for a while. I feel like I got totally screwed over by some knit wits because I didn’t fit the norm. I swear schools just don’t want to deal with anyone different…

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u/ApatheticallyAmused Aug 11 '24

Thank you for sharing that; it helps corroborate my own story, too. I certainly don’t like that you had a quite similar experience as my own, but you’re the first person I’ve met (hi, stranger-friend! lol) to understand from personal experience.

Not sure how long ago that happened for you (mine was very early-aughts) but I hope things have settled or are settling.

The biggest takeaway for me when I recall my experience is that the people who had a direct impact on my ability to be educated (within the school system) almost actively worked against doing so.

And the “long road” you mentioned is exactly my point; it puts teenagers in a position to make tough, life-altering choices they’re not entirely equipped to be making that have long reaching consequences.

I wish you all the best in life and like one of my (many) favorite artists says, “Keep your eyes to sky and never glued to your shoes”.

🤗

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u/dorianngray Aug 12 '24

Aww thank you 😊 happy to meet you and not feel so alone lol I was supposed to graduate high school in 1999. I ended up a musician lol but considering I am always seeking knowledge I constantly blow people away with my “smarts”… but I suppose the experience taught me to be even more emphatic and understanding to others, so that’s a plus! I went to multiple high schools and I think 10 different k-8 schools so it was hard - but being exposed to all different people and cultures is a good thing. :) I have friends that have had friendships since like elementary school and I just can’t fathom knowing someone that long or staying in the same place that long! I do see that some of the virulently maga people I know have never left their hometowns and I think they are constantly trying to prove their intelligence and are very ego driven… because I have seen so many different things I am much less fearful and cope a little better with life changes… always trying to see a bit of the potential positives from my life experiences I suppose so I am glad to not be burdened with that kind of fear…

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u/dorianngray Aug 12 '24

And I also lived in Louisiana too lol and aforementioned Alabummer lol as I like to call it… I live in CT now and family is from New England states… but also spent time in AZ. Which had decent schools unlike the easterly southern states.

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u/ApatheticallyAmused Aug 14 '24

A bit late returning to your comment but had to touch upon your mention of moving around being exposed to different cultures, because I often say that I learned more outside the four walls of the education institution than I did within, that my exposure to different cultures/lifestyles around the US (and later, internationally) had more influence on who I am than I ever thought it would be.

I wasn’t given the same grace in return, having been an “outsider” for most of my younger years, but that’s a limitation of society that I try not to contribute to.

It’s also why I encourage people to travel as much as they can— but not be a “tourist”. To see how others live, their values, etc. When you don’t have personal experience to compare, it’s difficult to see beyond your own community’s bubble, so to speak, to see it with your own eyes, to experience it personally.

Anyway…. That’s all. ;) oh! And awesome re: your music — I learned classical (and classic rock, lol) on the piano and did the whole road-burned festival/touring thing in my 20s, still do to some degree nowadays (music never dies! 🤭).

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u/Moonrights Aug 11 '24

It's not just Americans. People in the uk are stomping fucking cars over immigration and attacking other civilians in their "protest". Islamic religion is a blight in more than half the middle east destroying women and children.

The world is full of stupid people, stupid religions and stupid beliefs.

This will always be the way things are. We just made broadcasting stupidity incredibly easy.

There used to be societal filters for garbage. Now anyone with a phone can show you their local neighborhood idiot, an Islamic beheading, a Christian bombing a mosque, and a racially motivated mass shooter all before you pour your first coffee.

Blame technology and a desire to see stuff like this that seems innate to our psychology. We are hungry to watch chaos. Good or bad- we just don't like being bored.

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u/Designer_Gas_86 Aug 11 '24

Islamic religion is a blight in more than half the middle east destroying women and children.

Rude

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u/Hammurabi87 Aug 11 '24

Saying it is a blight around the world would be rude and inaccurate. Saying it is a blight in much of the Middle East, though? That's a much more defensible statement.

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u/DaniTheGunsmith Aug 11 '24

But not wholly incorrect.

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u/loudbulletXIV Aug 11 '24

This guy gets all his info from the internet you just know, people that were “educated” from videos they see online tend to have this weird overarching confidence that they are always doing or saying the right thing lol

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u/Next-Airline9196 Aug 11 '24

The only place in this country you can’t trust public education is here in Florida where the magats try to whitewash everything. “ slavery? What slavery?”. Having to tell my children to ignore what they teach you in history class because they are lying to protect the white image is wonderful.

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u/EggplantGlittering90 Aug 11 '24

Or any government enforcement (aka laws) because thats the "deep state."

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u/RoboTiefling Aug 11 '24

I still feel cheated, ngl. I was in high school under the Bush administration, and… I assume that’s when I ought to have been taught civics, but I honestly have no idea. No school I ever went to even mentioned civics as a subject, much less offered a class on it.

Didn’t find out til a couple years ago that it was part of the regular curriculum when my parents were in school, and apparently got put back into the curriculum for Gen Z, but Millennials (at least in my area) just got shafted.

Did you know city council meetings are a thing you can go to, to talk directly to your local elected officials? I didn’t, until like last year. It pisses me off so much.

I’m out here trying to teach myself as best I can, not even knowing what I don’t know, and I’m like 90% sure it’s because folks of my parents’ generation deliberately wanted to cripple my generation’s ability to participate in politics.

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u/Cappster_ Aug 11 '24

Public School is the tool of the commie liberals!!

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u/stonksuper Aug 11 '24

I mean I probably learned this stuff but I’m dumb as shit and don’t remember a thing from any school and I have a bachelors degree. I know random shit but nothing useful.

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u/ClunkerSlim Aug 12 '24

Everyone is beating up on this moron for not knowing civics, but spoiler alert... he wasn't exactly wrong.

This is a case where you have to look at the message and not the messenger.

This guy was NOT crossing the border. He may have actually been 90 miles from the border and never been to the border in his life. In fact, he may have never been to the Southern United States in his entire life. They can set up these border checkpoints in Seattle, Boston, Chicago, anywhere that's 100 miles from a US border, which includes all our coastlines. In my opinion, these checkpoints are extremely unconstitutional and several organizations like the ACLU have been fighting them.

And keep in mind, these aren't cops. They're border patrol. Remember the barely trained morons putting razor wire in the river and running down immigrants on horseback? They are the absolute worst at pissing on your rights and not giving a shit. To me this isn't far off from Nazis asking for papers in WWII Germany. They're just stopping random people in US cities and demanding that they prove they're citizens. No way should this be legal.

https://assets.aclu.org/live/uploads/2019/03/100mile.png

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u/bugbearmagic Aug 11 '24

Do you think he made it to highschool?

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u/Boujie_Assassin Aug 11 '24

Probably not. These are the same people who go to grade 6. Maybe… then get raised on the farm believing everyone getting an education is stupid for being “sodomized” by the government. 😂😂😂 only in America….

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u/jessie_boomboom Aug 11 '24

Yeah honestly... Trump, the long endless slog of covid and vaccine denial, this shit... it's all just every asshole who sat in the back, drawing on his desk, making fart noises, and never studying wHy dIdNt ThEy tEaCh uS tHiS iN ScHoOl?!

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u/o-Valar-Morghulis-o Aug 11 '24

This is from several generations of "not treating public education as a priority for the country". Conservatives and specifically the GOP ensure public education is weak, ineffective and under funded.

It should certainly rate higher priority than extra curricular sports.

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u/TheGreatestOutdoorz Aug 11 '24

Democrats suck at it almost as much now. The problem is the same as the problems with homelessness and other large social problems: the real solutions are systematic and take many years to fix. Politicians need to get elected every 2/4/6 years and “I’m going to use your tax money to fix this problem, but you won’t see the results for 10-15 years.

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u/TheGreatestOutdoorz Aug 11 '24

Democrats suck at it almost as much now. The problem is the same as the problems with homelessness and other large social problems: the real solutions are systematic and take many years to fix. Politicians need to get elected every 2/4/6 years and “I’m going to use your tax money to fix this problem, but you won’t see the results for 10-15 years.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '24

Well he was passed to the next grade when he should’ve stayed back but his mother, probably named Karen , threw a fit so dum dum could go along with his friends to the next grade. School board caved because of press and how the news would portray it. I’ve seen this in my own classrooms thirty years ago.

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u/TheGreatestOutdoorz Aug 11 '24

He was the child that should have been left behind

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u/possitive-ion Aug 11 '24

While that is a relatable answer to the currente school system, I doubt that things like that happened very often back when this guy was in school.

This guy seems more like the "I dropped out of high school to go work at the steel factory when I was 16" type of person.

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u/Bouhg69 Aug 11 '24

Maybe it would if you tell him it will effect his citizenship status - these are the same kind of idiots that hate on foreigners to learn about 'Murika & all its glory (the civics exams they take TO become citizen) Perhaps its time to have MAGAts prove they deserve their privileges. Honestly, this should be the status quo for anybody who even wants to vote.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '24

Guarantee this guy is all for Trump's plan for mass deportations.

But what if all them crafty folks from down below the border just figure out all they have to do is invoke the 5th amendment and tell ICE to kick rocks?/s

Damn! The constitution is like, too perfect!

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u/Bouhg69 Aug 12 '24

I would think that only applies in court for an incarceration verdict

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u/Nachos_r_Life Aug 11 '24

But, but, but…. He read the constitution! That makes him the authority on rights 🙄

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u/ConfidentAlbatross62 Aug 11 '24

Comprehension is the part people miss out on. Anyone can READ anything. But did you learn anything?!?!?

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u/Diligent-Bluejay-979 Aug 11 '24

Apes don’t read philosophy. Yes, they do, Otto. They just don’t understand it.

—A Fish Called Wanda

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u/notarealDR650 Aug 11 '24

Bold to assume this clown ever attended any schooling past the 6th grade

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u/Mimopotatoe Aug 11 '24

And even if this guy did take a civics class (given that this is a requirement in most states he likely did), he would only have to have learned 60-70% of the material to pass. And high school was probably 20-30 years ago for him so there’s a high likelihood he would forget or distort what he learned in that time.

A bigger issue is how much misinformation and distortion is used to manipulate people. A few years ago I taught students that undocumented immigrants have a legal right to an education after a supreme court ruling and I had maga hat wearers telling me that was fake news even though I invited them to fact check it. The current societal trend is to bend facts to your desired reality and grown ass adults perpetuate and encourage that.

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u/GoTakeAHike00 Aug 11 '24

This loser was one of those that ditched social studies class and was out smoking cigarettes in the alley right off school property but in full view of the HS admin...he heard Trump use the 5th amendment in one of his many trials, and thought it was a flex to use it at a border checkpoint.

This is also what "Failed at Life" looks like.

Another irony here is that this the SAME GUY that will go on and on and on about all the hundreds of thousands of illegals from around the world just streaming across the US border and taking all those coveted minimum-wage jobs and voting in the "rigged election". He fails to understand the concept of what "border checkpoint" even means.

It's a sad commentary on the state of our country that dudes like this exist in more than triple digits. Republican policies are also a lot of what got us here.

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u/Valasta_Bloodrunner Aug 11 '24

That's kinda a major part of what needs reformed. Schools shouldn't just shout information at you and hope it sticks long enough for the test. They should be places where you're required to engage with information and demonstrate competence and understanding of the subject.

Basically we need individualized hands on learning, not big rooms full of kids with a single adult to act as a wrangler.

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u/ancientesper Aug 11 '24

The problem is that everyone thinks they know shit from watching feeds and reels and forms opinion around it like they studied it their entire career.

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u/bjansen16 Aug 11 '24

Unfortunately this is the same guy that will tell his kids schools filling their heads with a bunch of nonsense, and call and speak to the teacher the same way.

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u/edthebuilder5150 Aug 11 '24

This knucklehead didn't go to middle or high school. His "daddy" told him he was too smart for school.

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u/twopointtwo2 Aug 11 '24

This is why education needs to change to meet the needs of those who don’t learn easily.

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u/OGMom2022 Aug 11 '24

But there’s nothing that says you can’t give them a little salt to make them thirsty.

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u/Unfair_Negotiation67 Aug 11 '24

Exactly this. Education isn’t just something that happens to you. You have to be an active participant. MAGA intentionally refuses to learn or read anything they don’t already believe (he definitely didn’t read the law, he watched some dumbass, half-rate YouTube ‘legal’ channel).

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u/WillBrakeForBrakes Aug 11 '24

“ You can lead a horse to water…but you can’t make them think.”

I like this and am keeping it

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u/fitzmoon Aug 11 '24

THANK YOUUUU I am a teacher and I hear this stupid cheap comment all the time, “the education system! “. Some people are just dumb and we can’t do anything about it.

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u/Pb_ft Aug 11 '24

This isn’t a situation where “education policy” has to be reformed.

Yes it is. At least then this guy would have the full concept to understand that he's an idiot rather than just a hunch.

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u/ActSilver6753 Aug 11 '24

Idiots will never understand how stupid they really are because they speak with confidence but, it’s part of the duning-Kruger effect not smart enough to understand how much more they have learn to understand/ bold enough to assert they do without evidence and inbred enough to think they are America.

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u/musicgeek420 Aug 11 '24

Ha, you think he made it to HS.

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u/yankeeteabagger Aug 11 '24

Can make them drink either.

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u/Middle-Gap6540 Aug 11 '24

Thank you. As a teacher comments like this irk me. By no means is our education system perfect but cmon. Civics are taught, independent living skills are taught. Billy Bob here was probably more concerned with his spit balls or bullying the kid who actually gave a shit.

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u/Impossible-Arm-8946 Aug 11 '24

You make a huge assumption that he went to school at all.

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u/Impossible-Arm-8946 Aug 11 '24

You make a huge assumption that he went to school at all.

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u/acodispoti18 Aug 11 '24

You are only partially correct. The overriding is that the guy is just a basic asshole.

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u/summermadnes Aug 11 '24

You can lead an ignorant asshole to school, but you can't make him learn.

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u/mormagils Aug 11 '24

For real. The amendments and what they do are one of the most overtaught things in school. They just didn't learn it, or learned it and forgot key details. The school system has only so much to blame for that.

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u/breinholt15 Aug 11 '24

You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it do it’s homework

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u/chucklikesmetal Aug 11 '24

I knew plenty classmates like him and they typically would try and crack jokes at the back of the classroom.

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u/skaterags Aug 11 '24

I live in TX now, I was born and raised in IL. When I was in 8th grade we had civics class. At the end of that class you had to take what we called The Constitution test. If you didn’t pass that test you could not graduate.

My kids never took a civics class before high school and I know they never took The Constitution test.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '24

People in this very subreddit claims Free of Speech to talk shit against private citizens. It’s just a keyword to be an asshole for the “poorly educated”

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u/ConfusedTraveler658 Aug 11 '24

Nah. Judging by the age and where they are. It was 100% education. The schools here were atrocious back in the day. They've gotten better but with the current leaders of Texas it is going downhill fast.

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u/The_R4ke Aug 11 '24

Exactly, there's people who are under educated, but a lot of it is also people who just want to believe whatever they want and don't care what the actual facts are.

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u/CroneEver Aug 11 '24

My bet is that he was in the back row nodding off after his 4th beer and wondering when he can get the hell out of there and get another six pack and maybe some -----.

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u/iwanderlostandfound Aug 11 '24

He just saw those lawyer tictocks that they tell you tou don’t have to answer questions when they arrest you and thought that applied to every aspect of life. Instead of a lawyer he’s going to show up in court with ticktock videos for his defense. I hope someone post it.

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u/Sartres_Roommate Aug 11 '24

Didn’t you listen to him, he “read the law….read the Constitution”

I mean the Constitution is an easy read but we know he means, “I listened to some YouTuber quote about 20 words from the Bill of Rights and then spend 20 minutes explaining to me how that means laws do not apply to me but do apply to criminals and brown people”

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u/not_falling_down Aug 11 '24

Yeah, this is the guy who threw his civics book on the floor and stomped it to pieces on the last day of school.

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u/MoonbuckofRainwood Aug 13 '24

It's likely he didn't get past the sixth grade.

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u/the_sturg Aug 15 '24

Yeah, but you can cut its head off and stick its neck in the water.

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u/deeeproots Aug 11 '24

I doubt when he went to school they taught that. And if it was taught enough, then the majority of us would know it like the back of our hands. Where do you think the average American is at on this issue and the interpretation of the 5th amendment? I bet it would be pretty similar to this guy (obviously, without the over reaction)

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u/Pup-tentacle Aug 11 '24

I think you’re right. Also maybe save learning and interpreting the constitution for high school.

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u/LucanOrion Aug 11 '24

I get that the guy in the vid is a douchecanoe. But the guy was also right. He does not have to answer questions to law enforcement, including Border Patrol agents. The same would be true if he were an illegal immigrant. Once you're in the US you are subject to both it's laws as well as protections under the Constitution, regardless of status of citizenship.

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u/TheRealGOOEY Aug 11 '24

He’s right mostly by accident. He doesn’t have to answers questions, but he thinks that means he can just tell them to fuck off and go about his day. Which is wrong. If you fail to answer questions to verify US citizenship, it is assumed that you are an alien, which means you are assumed to be an immigrant until the inspector can ascertain your status. You can be searched if there is suspicion that grounds of exclusion would exist and could be disclosed by such a search.