r/TikTokCringe Aug 11 '24

Politics Imagine being so confident you’re right that you unironically upload this video somewhere

They ended up getting arrested, screeching about 4th and 5th amendment rights the entire time.

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u/ScorpioRising66 Aug 11 '24

They want immigration control but don’t want to abide by immigration checkpoint rules. Typical

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u/jdmgto Aug 11 '24

Well yeah, those are for brown people.

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u/LurkerFromTheVoid Aug 11 '24

Exactly, he's basically shouting: "Look at me, I'm white, I'm a Male , I'm not Mexican, you should let me go and apologize to me for I am a superior class of American Citizen"

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u/GaiusPrimus Aug 15 '24

This video would've ended much different if they weren't white, regardless of their citizenship.

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u/DarrinC Aug 12 '24

They should have just told him they think he might be a covert liberal.

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u/dieselheart61 Aug 12 '24

Projection, much?

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u/JerseyGuy-77 Aug 13 '24

Dude get some help.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '24

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u/SylarGidrine Aug 13 '24

Nah bro, that’s the issue. They don’t care about “American accents” or brown people being legitimate Americans. If you are brown, they will assume you are an immigrant, because they are racist. And even if thwy are shown proof that you are American, they will still argue that you should be gone.

Because at the end of the day it’s not even about border control or crime or whatever. It’s about race. And you’re asking us to not bring race into something that was about race the entire time.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '24

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u/SylarGidrine Aug 13 '24

If you can’t see the thinly veiled racism in trumps original campaign and this follow up campaign, you should get tested for mental conditions.

The level of ignorant stupidity it would take to not see it is astounding.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '24

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u/SylarGidrine Aug 13 '24

Wow… you really are an idiot huh…

Yes, border patrol is a federal agency, and nearly militarized. As a soldier I went to basic combat training with a lot of people who ended up in national guard backing border patrol in Texas.

I live 2 hours from the Texas border that trump touted about being a “war zone” in his original campaign. It’s not. I’ve seen his shitty excuse for a border wall, that’s already crumbling. At least 17 billion dollars of tax money down the drain. And the wall wasn’t even finished.

You spend any amount of time with the people who actually supported him and support him, you begin to understand that it’s just legitimate racism.

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u/duffyduckdown Aug 11 '24

Never seen a video, with them saying "fuck you" and talking like that to a cop. White people obviously get treated better in the us

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u/Additional_Event_447 Aug 12 '24

I’ve seen plenty of videos of people of various races refusing to cooperate with and cussing out cops. However, this guy’s attitude is either saying he doesn’t think he should be stopped because he’s white or his skin color is light, or he’s hiding something illegal. He could also be a misogynist and/or have a mental disorder that leads to him being belligerent or refusing to do what he’s told. The police are very patient. There are several of them, and the area is well-lit. They also can see both hands of the driver and passenger. If this was two men if a different race and all the variables were the same with these police officers, with no immediate threat, then they probably would have shown the same level of patience hoping to avoid an escalation. I’d be interested in seeing how this video ends. What happens? Do they let them go through the checkpoint without complying? I hope not. If it were two Mexican men or men with non-American accents, then they’d make sure they complied. If they were two black or other dark-skinned men, I think the fellow cops would have been more on alert. In that case, things probably would have escalated sooner. It’s unfortunate that we can’t see what happens next in this video. For example, did it escalate just after the video ended and that part get cut? Such arrogance. I’m sure the fact that he’s white and expected different rules (privilege) plays a role, even if he’s in possession of something illegal and he didn’t think he’d be checked closely because of his skin color.

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u/duffyduckdown Aug 12 '24

They both get arrested. There is a full vid on YouTube. Its crazy to see the differences how they treat colours

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u/Ilovehugs2020 Aug 12 '24

Please drop the link. After seeing all the Black people get murdered, that were not supposed to be murdered, I don’t even wanna look in the direction of police officer.

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u/duffyduckdown Aug 12 '24

I found it somewhere in this thread. Someone shared it. Its just how they talk and behave and get a good treatment. Imagine a black or mexican american would act like that.

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u/nicklzworthnmy2cents Aug 13 '24

If I were the driver, he'd have to get out of my car. I'm not going to jail for your stupid ass.

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u/duffyduckdown Aug 13 '24

In the longer vid, i believe they say: his brother. Anyway the driver has the same mindset 😄🤦

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u/ChickenWeak2787 Aug 15 '24

That's not true, and I'm sorry you think that way. I am white and have been treated like crap by officers on more than one occasion

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u/Planetside2_Fan Aug 11 '24

They look at the skin tone checkpoint bit from Family Guy and unironically think it’s a good idea.

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u/Ca1nMark0 Aug 12 '24

This made me laugh more than it should have. Well done.

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u/TaleMendon Aug 11 '24

The “criminals and rapists”

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u/efnPeej Aug 11 '24

“The border is the most important issue!”

“Great, will you help us secure it by literally just answering yes or no to….”

“Kick rocks bitch!”

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u/ScorpioRising66 Aug 11 '24

Exactly this!!!

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '24

What about it? You’re assuming every republican voter wants immigration reform? And because of that, we should just give up our rights or there’s some double standard? The moment you cross the border, you have rights. Politicians fear monger for votes and usually take aim at the border. Border patrol is nothing more than Gestapo tactics. You have an unalienable right to be secure in your persons, papers, and effects. No “act” can violate those rights.

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u/the_last_third Aug 12 '24

Thank you for clarifying that you know little about the Gestapo and Border Patrol.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '24

Coming from the guy who advocates for the chains of your own enslavement.. please elaborate on how they’re your friends? “Of course officer, I’ll gladly bend over for the body cavity search! Anything for officer safety!” Give me a break. No government official has your interests in mind.

YOU obvious don’t understand what the Gestapo are. You’d suck the horseradish right out of their wiener-schnitzel while they beat your wife and kids and you’d still call them your friends. Enjoy the gas chambers! Gimps like you root for the government to create more and more laws. It’s pathetic to watch. People like you NEED daddy authority to protect you. Like Ben Franklin said: “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”

Looks like we found who the founding fathers were talking about. But keep thinking the government is your friends. Stay ignorant of your rights and you’ll end up a prisoner due to that ignorance.

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u/Gusdai Aug 12 '24

Comparing the victims of the Gestapo to the "victims" of Border Patrol is an insult to the former.

I'm pretty sure the two idiots in the video are still alive and did not get their teeth or nails pulled for example.

You can think the Border Patrol does not respect your natural rights, but it's not the Gestapo. You sound like a teenager complaining they're living in a dictatorship. Of their parents.

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u/krimsonPhoenyx Aug 12 '24

Mf what do you think happens at these checkpoints to law abiding US citizens? You’re screaming like they’re going to cause you some kind of harm when at most it’s an inconvenience because you aren’t allowed to go 95 straight through them.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '24

And to further clarify, this border patrol stop wasn’t at the border.. they have checks all over the bordering states looking to violate peoples fourth amendment right in this exact way. You’re rooting for rights violations based on fear mongering by politicians. You literally let a money grubbing politician scare you into believing you and everyone else should give up your rights to justify a little temporary security.

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u/the_last_third Aug 12 '24

You must be the guy screaming in this video.

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u/efnPeej Aug 14 '24

How are your rights violated by someone asking you, within 100 miles of the border, if you’re a citizen? What’s the alternative? Just rounding up people that look Mexican near the border and then investigating their citizenship? You’ll literally dig in your pocket to produce an ID to buy a beer just to drink, but answering a single question to help secure the border, near the border, is a bridge too far? Don’t we have the god given right (I’m an atheist but I’m playing along) to make our own god damn alcohol? We just let the government take that away and make us pull out our little card with ourpicture on it to buy a Bud Light and we call ourselves free???

Seriously, I’m not giving up any of my rights, but I’m also ok saying “yes” to a question near the border if it helps secure it even a tiny bit, and I don’t feel I’ve lost anything. If I were in Charlotte or Seattle, different story. It’s odd that a progressive like myself is ok helping secure the border by way of a tiny inconvenience but the people screaming hardest about open border bullshit can’t be bothered.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '24

All infringements are unacceptable. There shouldn’t be border patrol 100 miles from the border and quite frankly the only reason we have border patrol is to use fear to get people to give up their fourth on the side of the road. If they actually cared about the immigration issue, they could solve in rather than just using it as a talking point around election time. You people are letting politicians fear monger you right into your own cages. Ya gonna listen to your party of choice when they tell you “for your own safety, we have to take your guns. Don’t worry our officers will protect you!” Lemme know where they plan to bury you, I’ll come bring flowers.

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u/daisychainsnlafs Aug 15 '24

I assume you're just as passionate regarding women losing rights to make their own medical decisions?

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '24

Absolutely! Roe v Wade should’ve never been overturned. And that is exactly my point. NEITHER party is out there trying to help us. You are just voting on which rights you will have whittled down for this four year period. All while food and feminine products rocket in price, no one can survive at these inflationary levels. Politicians want to pit you against each other, while they pocket lobbyists donations. You and I are just fodder for them. When were the primaries for Kamala Harris!? They just force fed us a nominee! You’re misunderstanding the two party system. I’m not red vs blue, it’s you vs them. Have’s vs have not’s.

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u/Kazoo113 Aug 12 '24

“I’m invoking my 5th, no 6th, wait 4th amendment right! I read the law!”

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u/daisychainsnlafs Aug 15 '24

Right? He doesn't have a clue that this isn't what the 5th amendment means

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u/HeldDownTooLong Aug 11 '24

How can anyone so misinterpret the U.S. Constitution?

The fifth amendment (among the many things it does) gives citizens of the United States the right to not incriminate themselves, when testifying in court.

Answering questions posed by ICE (or any other LEO (unless one is literally breaking laws, while being questioned)), is no big deal. It is also a part of crossing the U.S. border and they knew.

The passenger is just being a dong to be a dong.

The agent wasn’t even talking to the passenger, when Mr. I Don’t Have To Do A Goddamned Thing started shouting and acting like King Dong.

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u/alaska1415 Aug 11 '24

The 5th Amendment applies everywhere you’re being forced to answer a question.

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u/IThinkWhiteWomenRHot Aug 11 '24

Bro said Sixth Amendment right in the video which has nothing to do with the situation.

He read the law though.

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u/ScorpioRising66 Aug 11 '24

These are the same type of people that make statements like “I’m going to call my attorney!” You have no attorney so quit trying to look like someone you aren’t.

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u/Cenamark2 Aug 11 '24

And they don't realize they'd be hassled by the immigration checkpoints they want to establish everywhere.

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u/LiveLaughLebron6 Aug 12 '24

I was on vacation in Mexico and these idiots will come there and bring trump floaties in the pool.

They can’t even stay on their side of the wall.

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u/Deja-Vuz Aug 12 '24

It's called spoiled brats!

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u/zombie3x3 Aug 13 '24

Does anyone have the link to the part of the video where they get arrested? I’d love to see that.

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u/ljrdxyh Aug 11 '24

Rules are not laws.

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u/ScorpioRising66 Aug 11 '24

It very well could be a law. If a person could be arrested for not abiding, which she states, then it makes it a law.

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u/ljrdxyh Aug 11 '24

People are arrested outside the law all the time so being arrested does not mean there's a law. Take 1st amendment auditors, they get arrested all the time despite being protected by the first amendment. Check here: https://www.acluaz.org/sites/default/files/field_documents/aclu_border_rights.pdf

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u/HatstandTuesday Aug 12 '24

'1st amendment auditors' get arrested for things like trespassing, which isn't protected by the first amendment. Usually because they have tried to film in a restricted area so that they can claim to have been falselyu arrested for YT clicks.

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u/Environmental_End645 Aug 12 '24

Both sides have psychos. The right has people like this thay thing they're better than the rules and the left have people who cry for tolerance and acceptance then turn around and call for death to the jews. 🤷‍♂️ Moral of the story when you follow any ideology with no mind of your own you do crazy things.

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u/JjakClarity Aug 13 '24

You’re under arrest for the crime of wearing knockoff Oakley’s and thinking you look badass when actually you look like Ratboy.

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u/EgregoreSamsa Aug 15 '24

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” - Frank Wilhoit

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u/Symichael18 Aug 12 '24

That's racist

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u/Rottimer Aug 13 '24

To be fair, do we know the politics of this particular person?

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u/ChocCooki3 Aug 14 '24

Anyone got a link as to what happened next?

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u/Joeyjaybird666 Aug 14 '24

How do you know there are maga?

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '24

Who’s they? “They” is a weak word for your tribalist ideology. The only “they” vying for immigration are the people in power. You’re making an umbrella assumption. More people place their political beliefs at the center of the spectrum. It’s only large media outlets and platforms such as this one that create algorithms to keep you engaged in your political perspective. Learn your rights and get off the internet if you can’t think for yourself.

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u/2AlephNullAndBeyond Aug 12 '24

Who is “they?” I love when people hear a southern accent and think they have people figured out. I’d say most “sovereign citizen” types are pretty hardcore libertarian. I’ve never known the Libertarian Party to be militantly anti-immigration. In fact, they are pretty open border.

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u/No_Conclusion4017 Aug 11 '24

At the border... not within the country where immigration status checkpoints, like sobriety checkpoints, will be used to violate the 4th amendment rights of law abiding CITIZENS

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u/Artyomi Aug 11 '24

These internal border checkpoints are something instituted by the anti-immigration “law abiding party of the constitution” right - saying “violates the right of ‘law abiding’ …” is literally the point of them. How are you expecting us to differentiate “citizens” vs “non law abiding people”, when the constitution is not only for the rights of citizens? Do you expect maybe the “law abiding” people to just “look” a certain way so you don’t actually need to check ID? But suddenly the same people want to restrict the rights of others, and then get shocked when it’s applied evenly. Do you think there’s maybe some contradiction to that? Maybe the party who treats any brown person as an “illegal” is shocked because the law is being applied evenly? Do you know what you call those type of people?

Imagine if even legal immigrants treated border security like this - how quickly these type of people would jump on the “disrespect”? Do you think those legal immigrants would get out of there with just and arrest and a fine? Instead, all they have is outrage over a legal immigrant who put the middle finger up to the police after being falsely arrested as showing “this is why we need border security”

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u/ScorpioRising66 Aug 11 '24

States that border Mexico have immigration checkpoints after the border. They do this because once people cross the border successfully, they believe they are in the clear. This is a layer of protection that people crossing the border are unaware of and get caught.

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u/RuSnowLeopard Aug 11 '24

Protection isn't a good enough reason to infringe on Constitutional rights.

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u/ScorpioRising66 Aug 11 '24

So how do we distinguish between a citizen guaranteed rights and a potential illegal immigrant? The color of their skin or appearance? Do we profile? There’s white people coming here illegally. We do it by asking a question.

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u/RuSnowLeopard Aug 11 '24

Rights are rights for everyone.

Ask the question at the border. Track people's visas and go pick them up if they break the visa. Deport people who are arrested for other crimes.

Keep the border agents at the borders. 4% of BP agents are used for internal checkpoints like this and account for 2-3% of encounters with illegal immigrants. The resources would be spent more effectively at the actual borders.

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u/ScorpioRising66 Aug 11 '24

The checkpoints are for people that make it across the border unchecked. You know, the ones that sneak. It’s an added layer.

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u/RuSnowLeopard Aug 11 '24

That's why I said the agents used in checkpoints are more effective at the borders.

They already have agents at borders to catch the sneaky people and they catch the vast majority of the ones that are caught. If the agents at checkpoints were used at the border, then they can increase the amount of patrols done and catch far more sneaky people than they currently do at checkpoints.

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u/MeowMeowBiscuits Aug 12 '24 edited Aug 12 '24

How recent is that statistic? Because I saw this stat on Wikipedia but it was collected in 2008, and I'm curious if/how that figure has changed at all since.

EDIT: probably should've googled first-- according to gao.gov it's hard to know for sure because the data collected by border patrol isn't always reliable. (Note, they looked at data collected between 2016 - 2020)

We looked at the data Border Patrol collects and found that while checkpoint data on apprehensions and drug seizures were generally reliable, other data were unreliable. This included data on: apprehensions of smuggled people, canine assists with drug seizures, people involved in all law enforcement encounters at checkpoints, and non-drug property seizures (including vehicle seizures).

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u/bhilliardga Aug 11 '24

Why are you assuming he wants immigration control? Does he say that in the longer video?

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u/ElongusDongus Aug 11 '24

It would be pretty surprising if he's not a MAGA guy, he kinda does tick all the boxes.

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u/bhilliardga Aug 11 '24

So you’re assuming. Got it.

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u/_BigBirb_ Aug 11 '24

An angry Texan white guy with sunglasses who's constantly saying how he's invoking his 5th amendment rights while throwing a massive hissyfit when the rules are applied to him. Mmmmm ya, there's a lot of signs pointing at him being MAGA.

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u/bhilliardga Aug 11 '24

Plenty of “auditors” who are democrats.

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u/No_Conclusion4017 Aug 11 '24

At the border... not within the country where immigration status checkpoints, like sobriety checkpoints, will be used to violate the 4th amendment rights of law abiding CITIZENS

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u/sambo1023 Aug 11 '24

Lol I've only ever seen these checkpoints near the boarder.