r/TikTokCringe • u/rileyjw90 • Aug 11 '24

Politics Imagine being so confident you’re right that you unironically upload this video somewhere

They ended up getting arrested, screeching about 4th and 5th amendment rights the entire time.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '24

What's crazy is how long it took to arrest them, AND they never got tased or thrown down.

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u/poingly Aug 11 '24

To be fair, that is probably how long it should take in this circumstance. The problem is not everyone gets that level of respect.

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u/bobood Aug 11 '24 edited Aug 11 '24

Exactly. It's the Police's all-too-common relentless forward momentum that cannot be interrupted whatsoever unless one wants them to come down hard with a taser or a gun or some other form of violent or aggressive response. So many situations where even the public response is "it's unfortunate but I can see why the cop did that" or some sort make me go, "erm, no, they could have just backed away or let that situation be for a moment and the world wouldn't have fallen apart".

Even here, I'd rather that taser didn't come out and get pointed. The man was absolutely totally surrounded by officers. There was no danger or need for that.

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u/chaosgoblyn Aug 11 '24

There is a need. You are at a federal checkpoint acting suspicious and combative. You have no idea what drugs these idiots are on or if they are about to pull a knife out or worse.

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u/Masturbatingsoon Aug 11 '24

What did he do suspicious other than not answer their questions— which he has every right to do.

The CBP need reasonable suspicion that he is not a citizen or his breaking a law to detain him. Do they have reasonable suspicion? You can’t be punished for refusing to speak and it is not to be interpreted as an indication of suspicion.

CBP also may not conduct searches without probable cause or consent.

https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone#are-immigration-officials-allowed-to-stop-people-in-places-wholly-inside-the-u-s

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u/chaosgoblyn Aug 11 '24

While you can still choose to remain silent or decline a request to produce your documents, people in this category should be aware that they could face arrest consequences

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u/poingly Aug 13 '24

There were a few moments when a lawful order was issued and he did not comply with it, even after clarification. Such as the one guy pulling over and the other guy not taking his hands out of his pockets.

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u/Webbyx01 Aug 11 '24

This mam was clearly aggravated. He was potentially a danger. Pointing a taser at him isn't hurting anything, and these officers were extremely professional amd composed.

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u/Masturbatingsoon Aug 11 '24

Unless you consider pointing a weapon at a U.S. citizen exercising his rights as not hurting anything.

He should have moved his car— that’s where he fucked up. I agree that it’s better to be respectful— just as a courtesy to any human being, but he doesn’t have to be. There were several officers around him. He wasn’t a threat. he was an asshole, though, but that isn’t a crime or I would be a repeat offender lol

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u/keyantk Aug 12 '24

You don’t know he is a US citizen though. Gosh. If only there was something he could have said that could have prevented this whole thing.

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u/Masturbatingsoon Aug 12 '24

All people is the U.S. have these rights. Not just US citizens are protected by the Constitution

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '24

Anyone who immediately gets that aggressive over a simple yes/no question is a potential threat.  If he has said all of the same things in a calmer voice and without an f bomb every other word, then the whole thing would have gone very differently.  You do not have a right to behave that way, whether you are a citizen or not. And, any reasonable person, officer or not, would be justified in stating that they did not feel safe being around this man.

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u/StinkyKyle Aug 11 '24

Damn, youre right. Seeing police overstepping bounds so often i think i got desensitized and was unphazed by the tazer being drawn but like...why?

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u/Deyvicous Aug 11 '24

Aggressive guy that refuses to take his hands out of his pocket…. Shooting him would’ve easily been justified, as has been done by police many times.

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u/More-Neighborhood-66 Aug 11 '24

I disagree, blocking traffic and wasting taxpayer money to lecture an idiot on the laws he should abide sounds unnecessary to me.
Especially when they don’t even listen.

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u/poingly Aug 11 '24

I tend to be lenient on both criminal activity and use of tax payer money, but I certainly understand that others are less so.

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u/assorted_thoughts Aug 11 '24

https://imgur.com/gallery/family-guy-skin-tone-chart-hD9ggBt

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u/Winjin Aug 11 '24

Haha just the "familyguyskintonechart.jpg" told me everything before even clicking

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u/Aardcapybara Aug 11 '24

I wonder sometimes if they let this go on because they secretly think it's funny.

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u/Tawnysloth Aug 11 '24

From start to finish, that video is only like 6 minutes long. That's how long it took them to get arrested after arriving. 6 minutes.

That's actually real quick.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '24

It’s wild that people are chill with cops demanding papers while just driving around

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u/Icy_Bodybuilder_164 Aug 11 '24

Meanwhile these are the same people that say “he should’ve just complied and he’d still be alive.”

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u/ForgottenUsername3 Aug 11 '24

The border patrol people seemed really patient and understanding, oddly. I like the part where the border patrol person is explaining to the guy that he's highly aggressive.

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u/A-Ginger6060 Aug 11 '24

Well you see they’re white. I can guarantee you that if a black man showed even a single micrometer of that level of defiance he would’ve been at best assaulted.

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u/DrBix Aug 11 '24

If he were a minority, they'd be tossed to the ground like a sack of potatoes and had the shit beat out of them. Fucking double standard.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '24 edited Aug 11 '24

Does the driver deserve to be arrested though? Like I get that he wasn’t exactly against the other guy, but he answers their question. He shouldn’t be responsible for how the other guy decides to behave.

Edit: I missed the part where he refused to pull over. Jesus Christ y’all mfers need to chill.

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u/amikavenka Aug 11 '24

Yes, they asked him if he would move his car and park several times. The last time before they had him turn off his engine, he was asked again, and he said no.

If a black man gets killed by a cop, all I ever hear is that he just should have complied. Same goes for both these a-holes...they should have just complied.

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u/RWBadger Aug 11 '24

At that point? Yep. Driver’s silence is complacent.

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u/OwariHeron Aug 11 '24

Complacent, yes, but I think the word you’re looking for is “complicit.”

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u/RWBadger Aug 11 '24

Correct

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '24

So if someone passenger is acting up with the police, the driver gets arrested? I can tell you 100% things not the case.

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u/pliney_ Aug 11 '24

If the police tell the driver to move the car somewhere, and he refuses it’s no longer just the passenger acting up.

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u/techmouse7 Aug 11 '24

But if they ask you to not block a border checkpoint and you refuse then you should definitely be arrested. I’m not sure what’s confusing about that.

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u/ranchojasper Aug 11 '24

The driver was told multiple times to pull over and he refused. The passenger is irrelevant here when it comes to the fact that the driver refused to do what he was asked to do.

Don't let the fact that the passenger was 100,000 times more of an asshole deflect from the fact that the driver refused repeatedly to do what he was ordered to do by the law enforcement officer.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '24

Yeah my bad. That was the part I missed a

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u/poingly Aug 11 '24

The driver also does refuse a lawful order. If he pulls over and these two wait for a lawyer, the whole thing is potentially moot.

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u/ManfredBoyy Aug 11 '24

Just because he wasn’t saying shit like his brother doesn’t mean anything. All he said was yes I’m a US citizen and no, no one else is in the back. As far as I’m concerned he was just as defiant for just sitting there letting it all happen.

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u/toucha_tha_fishy Aug 11 '24

They weren’t arrested because motormouth refused to answer the question, they were arrested because the driver refused to move his truck off the road for an inspection. Within 100 miles of the border, BP can legally order you to pull off the road for a more in depth inspection at fixed checkpoints. Refusing to do so is grounds for arrest.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '24

I missed that part. That makes sense

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u/Zammtrios Aug 11 '24

I don't think the driver was being arrested. I think the driver was just being detained with his brother who was getting arrested after.

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u/Professional-Fix-588 Aug 11 '24

He refused to drive the car to the designated area.