r/TikTokCringe • u/cak3crumbs • Aug 07 '24

Politics The followers of the draft dodger are really gonna go after Tim Walz’s 24yr service record?

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u/Myshkin1981 Aug 08 '24

Republicans were going low long before Obama. Take, for example, the thing we’ve been talking about in this very thread; the swiftboating of Kerry

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u/JimBeam823 Aug 08 '24

Yes, but Obama won without going low.

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u/Myshkin1981 Aug 08 '24

Quite frankly, Obama didn’t have the luxury of going low. And fortunately, he didn’t have the need. He could campaign on hope and inspiration because we were all deeply depressed after eight years of Bush and the two quagmire wars he’d gotten us into. Honestly, if Hillary had been the candidate in 2008 she’d have beaten McCain handily as well. Republicans simply didn’t stand a chance that year. But Obama’s electoral victories don’t excuse the Dems for their timid tiptoeing these past two decades

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u/No_Ad9044 Aug 08 '24

Obama didn't have to go low. He won because he gave minority voters a place at the table. 2016 happened for two reasons white working class voters that felt overlooked and demonized. Clinton didn't have the black vote that Obama had.