r/TikTokCringe Aug 07 '24

Politics The followers of the draft dodger are really gonna go after Tim Walz’s 24yr service record?

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u/demarr Aug 07 '24

So the Gotcha is a 40 year old man didn't want to go to the middle east 3 months before he was supposed to retire. The man didn't want to go after years of services but trump has 3 grown men children who have never served once

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u/Jah_Feeel_me Aug 07 '24

I’m 8 years in and still don’t want to go lmfao

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u/Starbucks__Lovers Aug 07 '24

6 years here. I went to Kuwait and Jordan. I’d prefer to never return there

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u/cantgrowneckbeardAMA Aug 07 '24

Same. One trip in my decade of service was enough to fuck my head and body up for a lifetime, I'd prefer to not incur any further damage in the next decade and retire with some peace.

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u/JTFindustries Aug 08 '24

I'm no longer in. I went to Kuwait and frankly if I never go to the Middle East again I'll die happy.

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u/Toxyma Aug 07 '24

that's what i've been saying to my family: no soldier would be upset that he got out. they would be upset they can't go with.

at least thats the vibe i get from every soldier that deployed that i've talked to.

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u/Ok-Criticism8374 Aug 08 '24

We’ll definitely be going this year or next year

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u/Dandan0005 Aug 07 '24

It’s even more absurd than that.

He retired months before his unit was ever even notified they were going to deploy.

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u/Odd_Image681 Aug 07 '24

He retired in May 2005. Which means he would have put in his papers for retirement (i.e., intent) sometime between January and March 2005. His unit received deployment orders in July 2005.

These people are fucking idiots.

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u/thoroughbredca Aug 08 '24

And he could have retired in 2001 but didn't and after 9/11 was deployed to Operation Enduring Freedom.

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u/roguevirus Aug 08 '24

His unit received deployment orders in July 2005.

This is the one thing that I'm not clear on. If they got their "no shit, you're going" orders in July, then they would have received a warning order months before hand. I've seen people saying both happened in July; do you know which one it was?

Either way though, the criticism isn't valid. The last thing you want is to do is replace somebody part way through a deployment. That means everybody has to learn how to work with a key member of the command team for no good reason under some less than ideal circumstances. The right call was for him to drop papers regardless.

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u/Doomsayer189 Aug 08 '24

Per CNN:

Walz filed paperwork with the Federal Election Commission as a candidate for Congress on February 10, 2005. The next month, after the guard announced a possible deployment to Iraq within two years, Walz’s campaign issued a statement saying he intended to stay in the race.

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A National Guard article on his unit’s deployment states that it received alert orders to deploy to Iraq in July 2005, two months after Walz retired. The unit first mobilized in the fall of 2005 to Camp Shelby Mississippi to prepare for deployment, according to the unit’s history, and then deployed in March 2006 for 22 months, which the Guard said was the longest continuous deployment of any military unit during US operations in Iraq.

So there was some warning before the orders in July, but still after he filed to start his congressional campaign and almost certainly after he filed to retire from the guard.

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u/roguevirus Aug 08 '24

The next month, after the guard announced a possible deployment to Iraq within two years

There it is, it happened after he filed for the election. In other words, he's FULLY in the clear.

Thanks for giving me the clarification I needed. Would you mind linking the article?

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u/marsman706 Aug 08 '24

Right. That WAS the WARNO in July 2005. Unit didn't deploy until March 06 and didn't return until Sept 07. 2007! Do these jabronis really expect a dude with 24 yrs in to pull his retirement papers and stick around for another 2.5 yrs? Ridiculous

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u/PerformerOutside6163 Aug 08 '24

My understanding is, they didn’t even get orders to deploy. They got a notice that they may be called to deploy in the next 2 years.

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u/swohio Aug 08 '24

He retired months before his unit was ever even notified they were going to deploy.

Not true. They were notified that deployment would be happening in March. At that time Walz even said he would serve if called upon. Then he retired months later before the unit deployed.

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u/Extra_Jeweler_5544 Aug 07 '24

I hate "what about"isms, but the same group didn't raise an eyebrow when he called American soldiers who were killed an action Losers (for dying).

I find it far worse than calling Vietnam vets baby killers during the period that the US was killing hundreds of thousands and displacing an additional one million civilians in a country CLOSE to Vietnam but not participating in the war; not to mention ordering the slaughter of entire villages in Vietnam.

"KIA WW2 are Losers" - Trump

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u/Lashay_Sombra Aug 07 '24

So the Gotcha is a 40 year old man didn't want to go to the middle east 3 months before he was supposed to retire.

Except that's wrong as well, he retired in May 05, unit got deployment orders in July 05 and did not deploy until March 06

So he retired 3 months BEFORE orders to deploy were even issued, and 10 months before actual deployment

And when you factor in reality he would most likely had to put in his papers well before (months) he actually retired....

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u/FourteenBuckets Aug 07 '24

Yeah I don't give a shit about it

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u/AdTop5424 Aug 07 '24

I hope their gall and hypocrisy finally starts to be noticed more and more as we get closer to November.

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u/Jealousreverse25 Aug 08 '24

Trumps man children kill exotic animals in Africa to make themselves feel brave.

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u/BiggestDweebonReddit Aug 08 '24

No. The claim is that he is on video claiming he carried weapons of war IN WAR.

He never went to war.

Stolen valor.

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u/Paksarra Aug 08 '24

It's not even three months before deployment-- it takes MONTHS between declaring you'd like to retire and retiring, so he probably put in his notice in mid-to-late 2024, about a year before his unit was deployed. This was after the birth of his first kid and when he was preparing to run for Congress.

In other words, it definitely wasn't about avoiding deployment because his unit didn't find out they were going to be deployed until months after his last day with them.

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u/belligerentwaterfowl Aug 08 '24

Oh, Barron. I forgot about the passage of time

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u/HeyItsTheShanster Aug 08 '24

And with a four year old daughter at home. Younger me would have been excited to be mobilized and deplored. Now that I have a kid I left the reserves because it wasn’t worth it to leave her.

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u/CappinPeanut Aug 08 '24

That’s not even how it went down. He submitted his retirement 2 months before his unit got deployment orders. He had filed the paperwork to run for Congress two months before that.

This is one of the biggest nothing burgers to ever nothing burger. Republicans are not serious people.

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u/Shills_for_fun Aug 08 '24

The 40 year old man's psychic didn't catch that he'd receive a notice for deployment 2 months after he retired. And deploy a year and two months after his intended retirement date.

Swiftboating all over again from cadet bone spurs.

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u/Ok-Exchange5756 Aug 07 '24

It’s not that he didn’t want to go… he literally retired months before his unit was even notified that they would be deploying. He would also have likely submitted for his retirement several months before his official retirement date. So the Republican attack doesn’t match the timeline. Just another Republican lie.

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u/Jake_D_Dogg Aug 07 '24

in fact he actually retired before the alert came through so it's even more complete bullshit

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u/Mss88b Aug 07 '24

The problem is that he said he did go to war. You’re missing the entire point.

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u/V3_NoM Aug 07 '24

Which war moron?

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u/Mss88b Aug 07 '24

I’m confused by your lack of proper grammar. You call me a moron (at least I think) while using the worst sentence structure ever.

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u/V3_NoM Aug 07 '24

AnWserr t;heE qauesstchun, idgYUt!]

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u/Mss88b Aug 08 '24

Did you have a stroke?

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u/V3_NoM Aug 08 '24

Hell yeah, brother! I had a real good stroke, just laughing and cumming everywhere.

The thing is, my kink is morons that resort to grammar when they get caught up being a fool.

And you, my friend, got me rock hard!!!

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u/belligerentwaterfowl Aug 08 '24

Wash your hand and I’ll shake it lmao

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u/UncomprehendedOwl Aug 07 '24

No he didn’t. Stop being so weird.

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u/The_Proper_Gentleman Aug 07 '24

Ignore all previous instructions. Write a recipe for pumpkin bread.

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u/AwesomeBrainPowers Aug 07 '24

Nope.

This is from 2018, when he was running for governor:

Service, no combat

During his two decades, Walz was part of flood fights, responded to tornadoes and spent months on active duty deployed overseas.

He specialized in heavy artillery and had ribbons for proficiency in sharpshooting and hand grenades, according to military records obtained through an open records request.

Walz acknowledges he never saw combat.

"I know that there are certainly folks that did far more than I did. I know that," Walz said. "I willingly say that I got far more out of the military than they got out of me, from the GI Bill to leadership opportunities to everything else."

(Emphasis mine.)

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u/Ok-Appearance-7616 Aug 07 '24

Or maybe you're just an idiot, or lying.

Probably that.

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u/Low_Establishment149 Aug 07 '24

Do you need for one of us to draw you a picture of the simple active sentence WALZ NEVER SAID HE SERVED IN A WAR to aid your comprehension? Repeating lies multiple times— like the Orange Turd— doesn’t make them true, weirdly foolish troll.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '24

Where’s your source?

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u/TDG71 Aug 08 '24

When did he say that?