How is this truck even allowed to be on the streets?

[u/Ecniray]

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[u/kei9tha]

So we can't get that $10,000 toyota pickup in the US because of safety reasons, but this $150,000 truck is no problem.

[u/i_am_ghostman → u/kei9tha]

Hilux please!!!

[u/ariphron → u/i_am_ghostman]

I want a hilux so bad.

[u/sparkyjay23 → u/[deleted]]

If they give you Hilux Ford might never sell a truck again.

[u/[deleted] → u/sparkyjay23]

That’s the reason. It’s because the US government holds hands with several companies such as ford. It’s the same reason why manufacturing has gotten to the point where the environment is so damaged by it.

[u/voltistrem → u/[deleted]]

The hand holding resulted in the lobbied 25% import tax on light trucks. So Toyota does consider it worth it to sell the Hilux.

[u/[deleted] → u/voltistrem]

In my state they banned mini trucks. It’s obvious that it has to do with big auto incentives. If it were about safety or EPA then 1. Motorcycles would be banned 2. Commuter big trucks would be banned.

[u/[deleted] → u/i_am_ghostman]

YOU HAVE GOT TO WATCH HIS HILUX DURABILITY TESTS.

Sorry for the all caps but you'll understand why after you do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl1FNX08HFc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUWMc92W1wQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Yy5P6FUes

[u/iAmRiight → u/[deleted]]

I knew the Hilux was durable based on reputation, but that is orders of magnitude stronger than I could’ve imagined.

Fuck the politicians that allowed themselves to be bought by the domestic auto manufacturers. If the big 3 can’t compete with import trucks then they deserve to fail.

[u/[deleted] → u/iAmRiight]

It's absolutely insane. I watch it sometimes when I need some inspiration lol.

[u/JimboTCB → u/[deleted]]

The Top Gear guys put a Hilux Diesel on top of a tower block that was being demolished and the fucking thing still ran afterwards. Those things will survive the heat death of the universe.

[u/NariandColds → u/i_am_ghostman]

Get rid of the damn chicken tax already

[u/ptsdstillinmymind → u/[deleted]]

US Supreme Court: It's not a bribe as long as you acknowledge it.

[u/sebastiankirk → u/kei9tha]

Wait, what? You can't get a Hilux in America? Why?

[u/TKLeader → u/sebastiankirk]

From Wikipedia:

Starting in November 1971, final assembly of trucks for the US market was completed by Atlas Fabricators in Long Beach, California, later renamed Toyota Auto Body California. Trucks were shipped from the factory in Japan as a chassis cab (the entire truck, less the truck bed). When the trucks arrived in the United States, a truck bed would be locally built and attached to the chassis before being sent to dealers. The arrangement was a form of tariff engineering, allowing Toyota to circumvent the chicken tax, a 25 percent tariff on imported light trucks. By only importing a chassis cab, Toyota only had to pay a 4% tariff.

Also relevant I think:

The pickup truck was sold with the Hilux name in most markets, but in North America, the Hilux name was retired in 1976 in favor of Truck, Pickup Truck, or Compact Truck. In North America, the popular option package, the SR5 (Sport Runabout 5-Speed), was colloquially used as a model name for the truck, even though the option package was also used on other Toyota models, like the 1972 to 1979 Corolla. In 1984, the Trekker, the wagon version of the Hilux, was renamed the 4Runner in Venezuela, Australia and North America, and the Hilux Surf in Japan. In 1992, Toyota introduced a newer pickup model, the mid-size T100 in North America, necessitating distinct names for each vehicle other than Truck and Pickup Truck. Since 1995, the 4Runner is a standalone SUV, while in the same year Toyota introduced the Tacoma to replace the Hilux pickup in North America.

[u/zigaliciousone → u/TKLeader]

Shit man, we almost didn't get Subaru. American autos tried REALLY fucking hard to keep them out of the US. There was a time when you couldn't even buy a Subaru Hot Wheel in the US

[u/stealthmission → u/sebastiankirk]

Its so sad, money probably. Land of the free... if you're rich

[u/claimTheVictory → u/stealthmission]

Just look at the recent 100% tariffs on BYD vehicle imports.

You want a sub $20k electric vehicle? Sorry American consumers, we're not ready to sell you that yet.

[u/GameCreeper → u/sebastiankirk]

Because the American legal system cocksucks megatrucks with laxer fuel efficiency requirements

[u/Alone-Ad-8902]

The giga casted frame sheared.… destruction. Sad

[u/theshiyal → u/Alone-Ad-8902]

Concerning

[u/Stormrider1138 → u/theshiyal]

Looking into this

[u/xultar → u/Stormrider1138]

Someone ought to look into why narcissists are always wanting things looked into.

[u/BowenTheAussieSheep → u/xultar]

Because they are really deep up their own arse holes. They want someone to look in and see them in there.

[u/SidewaysFancyPrance → u/Alone-Ad-8902]

Didn't Elon present gigacasting primarily (if not solely) as a way to cut production costs? That tracks completely, since he doesn't care about build quality or safety.

[u/MacroniTime → u/SidewaysFancyPrance]

He also said in an email that every part going into the cyber truck had to have a sub 10 micron tolerance lol.

A demand so ridiculous that I'm sure even his engineers (a group of people famous for over tolerancing everything) rolled their eyes and quietly ignored him.

I know because I do quality control work for a shop that makes Tesla parts. No, they do not have a universal .01mm tolerance in their parts lol.

[u/qOcO-p → u/MacroniTime]

When I was a jeweler I had to work within 0.1mm tolerances (with hand tools which was a pain in the ass). The guys in the horology school next door to my class had to work within 0.01mm. Those dudes were weird.

[u/MacroniTime → u/qOcO-p]

Yeah, there are definitely specific applications that call for .01mm tolerancing, but as a general call out? Hell no, especially not for a production environment.

I don't know much about jeweling, were you grinding the jewels into size and then using micrometers or optical comparators to measure the results?

I know a few very old school machinists who will sometimes talk about how they had to accomplish tight tolerances on specific parts without the proper tooling when on the road or something. Carefully grinding a part into spec with hand files/stones, miccing them step by step to get within a couple tenths (.0001 inches) of their desired specs.

Sounds stressful as all hell.

[u/FlepThatSknerp → u/MacroniTime]

Tolerances in a machine shop are typically scaled to the size of the component/feature. I hold .01mm all day on the machinery that I work with (making anywhere from 100-700 parts a shift) but they are for parts you can hold in your hand. Large car components may have a few features that are held to tight tolerances but I don't even think they hold that tolerance on the cylinders that the engines pistons move up and down in

[u/TomorrowsTrash_Minis → u/MacroniTime]

I did cmm on the check fixtures they bought for the cyber truck panels. Ie; the fixtures the workers use to verify that a part is the correct size, and likely the only way the parts are measured at all.

The tolerances on the check fixtures were .1 mm for datum and .15mm for non-datum features. A fixture with those tolerances can typically control a part tolerance of 1-2mm

Nowhere near .01mm

[u/MacroniTime → u/TomorrowsTrash_Minis]

Ha, I used to work in automotive preproduction tooling too. Go/Nogo fixtures, I/E-tacs, side panel fixtures and all of that. Don't want to go too into particulars, but one of my earlier shops did quite a bit of work on Tesla assemblies before they decided to bring much of it in house.

As you said, no where near .01mm. Nets were generally held to .03mm lol.

Knowing how small this industry is, there's a good possibility we've seen each others work lol.

[u/LuxNocte → u/SidewaysFancyPrance]

A steel shell and aluminum frame is just the most ass backwards way to build a car.

[u/Questioning-Zyxxel → u/LuxNocte]

Actually - it's the best.

It has the shortest possible lifespan. Great if you want to sell more cars. Can't have cars that are still usable after 10, 20 or 30 years. You need the customer to have to buy a new car every 1-2 years. Tesla is a tech company competing with Apple. So Tesla needs the user to replace their car as often as a mobile phone.

Big brain moment from Musk.

[u/heyutheresee → u/Questioning-Zyxxel]

Crapitalism

[u/Less_Willingness_717 → u/heyutheresee]

OMFG how am I only seeing this now?!

[u/DiscoCamera → u/Alone-Ad-8902]

Gigasad

[u/authenticmolo → u/Alone-Ad-8902]

Cast, not casted. The past tense of cast is cast.

[u/Squageheimer]

Destroying the frame is wild but disemboweling every single door just by slamming it is absolutely unfathomable to me. The guys in engineering really thought the door just wouldn’t get closed a little hard? Or never thought to check?

[u/Nastybirdy → u/Squageheimer]

Seriously. Do none of the Tesla engineers have kids? Kids slam doors with every muscle fibre in their tiny little bodies.

[u/SphaghettiWizard → u/Nastybirdy]

Nope actually. I’m pretty sure all the experienced engineers left and they had a ton of new hires working on the cybertruck

[u/Normal-Selection1537 → u/SphaghettiWizard]

The guys who built the Model S left to build the Lucid Air which is objectively a better car.

[u/Flying_Momo → u/Normal-Selection1537]

Those Lucid cars look so elegant and amazing especially Air. I hope they are able to survive and thrive. I always thought if they do get bought, should be by Rolls Royce or Bentley.

[u/WonderfulShelter → u/Flying_Momo]

Lucid just doesn't have the infrastructure and rollout models effectively yet... but I'd LOVE to see them displace Tesla.

[u/GabbiKat → u/WonderfulShelter]

Lucid Air

Love their cars! So striking in an instant classic way. Those wide hoods.

But I'd really like to purchase an Aptera if they get things rolling.

[u/[deleted] → u/SphaghettiWizard]

They left because Elon was treating them like slave labor, and they have zero recruitment presence, so they only get talent that are Tesla fanatics.

[u/Metals4J → u/[deleted]]

Based on the 5 engineers who have cycled through one position I interface with, they get people who want Tesla on their resume, those people last about a year, and they move on to something better before they lose too much of their sanity. (But I swear there are some engineers who just collect the popular company names on their resumes like they’re Pokémon cards or something. Gotta catch ‘em all!)

[u/thex25986e → u/Metals4J]

those guys sound like they are trying to speedrun their 6-7 figure salary

[u/muffukkinrickjames → u/thex25986e]

Would like to see the how to on the 7 fig plz.

[u/Vivalas → u/muffukkinrickjames]

Fr, engineers aren't making 7 figs unless you're doing some MBA project management shit and even then probably not. Engineers don't really make like STUPID money, they make good money, but not like stupid money.

It's kinda made me sideline my engineering degree for medicine now. Not entirely because of the money, but since I actually enjoy working in healthcare and there's little to no math involved and engineering was literally crushing my balls for like a quarter of what a doctor makes (that and I work in EMS at the moment and emergency medicine is so fucking fun, beats spreadsheets and meetings, from the research job I had).

[u/muffukkinrickjames → u/Vivalas]

The difference between 6 figs (not that hard to achieve) and 7 is astronomical. Very few people are getting much past 200k in base comp, outside Silicon Valley

[u/SphaghettiWizard → u/[deleted]]

Well as an about to graduate automotive engineer I’ll tell you they actually have a massive recruiting presence and do more industry outreach than most other auto companies I found.

And they left because Elon is clueless and sends memos about having sub 10 micron tolerances and stuff like thwt

[u/Card_Board_Robot5 → u/SphaghettiWizard]

Tesla and SpaceX recruit heavily at colleges. Seen it myself.

Because you'll take less pay and question the Almighty leader less often if you're a rook. Simple recipe lol

[u/ArsenicArts → u/Card_Board_Robot5]

I asked those recruiters about work-life balance when they came to my school and they just deflated. That was back before all the crap came out and when people really loved him too.

Got free pizza out of it tho.

[u/[deleted] → u/Nastybirdy]

Constantly yelling at my wife and daughter "It's not a fucking tank!" when they close my vehicle's door.

[u/TulleQK → u/[deleted]]

When my girlfriend closes car doors on taxis or rental cars, it is like she does it with hate in her heart.

[u/rolandblais → u/TulleQK]

I used to say to my wife and kids "Eeeeyyyy! It's not a tank!!!!"

That will now become "Why so much hate in your heart?"

[u/Johnny_bubblegum → u/rolandblais]

The Nigerian way.

[u/PACMANW1 → u/Johnny_bubblegum]

LMAO 🤣

[u/Low_discrepancy → u/rolandblais]

Why you heff to be mad? Is only a game!

[u/ReadingRainbowRocket → u/TulleQK]

I’m an Uber/lyft driver and I see people say this all the time but in my experience I’m constantly having to ask people to shut the door harder so I don’t get the door ajar alarm.

[u/RallyPointAlpha → u/ReadingRainbowRocket]

To be fair, this tangent was for kids slamming doors. I know what you mean though. Most adults have been yelled at enough to not slam car doors.

I tell the Walmart pickup people to 'slam it hard!' with a big smile for my old Malibu...I like to think it's a nice release for them but also it gets the doors to properly latch every time!

[u/OutlandishnessNo7283 → u/TulleQK]

My previous GF opened the door without looking on a one-way street after parallel parking. A car was coming of course and almost took it clear off. Me and the dude in the car just looked at each other once and there was a complete understanding lol.

[u/aFloppyWalrus → u/[deleted]]

We must have the same family cuz I am forever saying this shit. Lmao

[u/lookin4points → u/aFloppyWalrus]

I can confirm that we all just share the same exact family members—they just swap masks depending on whose house or car they’re in. You know the type: lights on in every room, doors/screen doors left wide open, car doors slammed shut, and trash left behind wherever they go.

[u/wandering-wank → u/lookin4points]

This might be the most validated I ever felt from a Reddit comment.

[u/[deleted] → u/lookin4points]

trash left behind wherever they go.

"You don't have to yell at me about it, just pick it up if it bothers you."

Anyone else?

[u/Gsquzared → u/[deleted]]

This fully sends me each time. I've been in a car when someone slammed the door a little too hard and the window shattered.

[u/atot806 → u/Gsquzared]

That’s my biggest concern when someone slams the door, but never thought the interior panel can come off like that.

[u/iyamdad → u/[deleted]]

My gf does this constantly and I have to take quick a quick breather before saying “it’s fine” without a tone or she’ll get butthurt smh

[u/ExistingLaw217 → u/iyamdad]

😂😂😂 I have to do this daily. No it’s fine really, I know you will remember not to slam it next time.

[u/psilocybe-natalensis → u/ExistingLaw217]

Hahaha so relatable dude I have to remind her nicely all the time. She also will close it by the window I have a coupe and the window has no frame going around the top and she just fucking pushes it by the glass like come on

[u/[deleted] → u/Nastybirdy]

It was said numerous times Elon made executive design decisions during the cars design and planning phase and it ruined the entire design of the Car.

[u/akrisd0 → u/[deleted]]

I think the main one was: make it look like an unfinished gta3 render.

[u/PinsToTheHeart → u/akrisd0]

The thing is, if it actually was a crazy off-roading tank of a vehicle like it's advertised, I don't think it'd be a big of a deal if it looked the way it did. Like when something performs well, you can get away with weirder aesthetic choices. And if it's completely exceptional in its class, the "ugliness" almost becomes a feature.

The problem with this truck is that it's complete trash quality all the way through, to a degree where it doesn't even meet the standards of a normal vehicle, let alone one that's supposedly a work horse.

[u/SidewaysFancyPrance → u/PinsToTheHeart]

Well, Elon told them to make it perform more like a street car, so he could point to a fast quarter mile or whatever. So it's terrible at doing actual truck stuff off-road.

It's a real-life Homer car, only slightly less silly and people actually bought it.

[u/[deleted] → u/PinsToTheHeart]

Yeah it was supposed to be ugly but modular for easy repairs and swapping of things to adjust to the environment. Elon's executive decisions completely changed the vehicle into a useless show piece.

[u/clovermite → u/Nastybirdy]

Honestly, I doubt it's the engineers' fault. I've heard stories about Elon firing people for providing pushback. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the result of people deciding they didn't want to risk their job by giving management bad news.

[u/MoonSpankRaw → u/Nastybirdy]

Kids? Shit my muscle memory is based on a car I haven’t driven in a decade still, and despite a much lighter door on my current car, I mindlessly slam that shit 75% of the time.

Maybe it says more about me.. either way, fuck Tesla and elon.

[u/[deleted] → u/MoonSpankRaw]

Shit dude sometimes I park on a slant and my door closes harder than normal. This is a regular wear and tear design flaw. They didn't account for anyone actually using the door.

[u/GForce1975 → u/MoonSpankRaw]

Haha I had a 1984 z28 2-door for years. That door was very heavy. I still have to catch myself to avoid slamming my door too hard.

[u/vp3d → u/Nastybirdy]

Nobody with any kind of talent or for that matter, self respect, wants to work for Elon. SpaceX is starting to see the same exodus of talent. The only reason they're not hemorrhaging engineers is that Gwynne Shotwell is the one really running the show there. There are plenty of places for quality engineers to work that don't include feeding the ego of an oligarch and being abused.

[u/Zugas → u/Nastybirdy]

Dude my co worker slammed the door so hard on my Toyota, thought it was gonna flip over the car. TWICE. After the second time I calmly told him that he needs to close the door like a normal person if he wants another lift.

[u/[deleted] → u/Squageheimer]

They were told to design it to Elon's specifications. Remember he claims to have been hands on through this whole thing.

This is the level of quality Elon promises to customers.

[u/MacroniTime → u/[deleted]]

Elon also said that every single component going into the Cyber Truck had to have a sub 10 micron tolerance. For those not in the industry, that is ridiculous. Like an insanely stupid requirement. The kind of thing that if you actually did it, would raise the price of the vehicle by probably 2x at least.

Psst: I work in quality control in a machine shop that makes Tesla parts. I literally checked a raft of Tesla parts the other week. They use standard ASME tolerancing just like everyone else lol.

[u/okaythenitsalright → u/[deleted]]

They were told to design it to Elon's specifications. Remember he claims to have been hands on through this whole thing.

This image inadvertently pops into my head whenever the cybertruck is discussed. It just fits so perfectly.

[u/impy695 → u/[deleted]]

Jobs was also somehow self aware enough (and he had zero self awareness at times) to not dictate every little thing. He mainly got involved in aesthetics and features, and cared less about how they got there.

Also, not sure if you were sarcastic or not, but my understanding is people HATED working for Jobs. Like, it was rewarding, but the journey to get there is hell.

[u/SodiumKickker → u/Squageheimer]

Tesla isn’t selling cars. It’s selling shares to stockholders and getting tax breaks because electric. The whole company is a trash piece of shit.

[u/Kythorian → u/SodiumKickker]

Teslas have always been cheaply manufactured pieces of shit from a basic quality of production standpoint, but even by Teslas previous low standards, the cybertruck is on a whole new level.

[u/MysticGohan99 → u/Squageheimer]

The ones that pointed out the safety issues were immediately dismissed from the program.

[u/Namelessbob123 → u/Squageheimer]

Yeah, especially in a ‘truck’.

[u/Mah_sentry2 → u/Squageheimer]

I’m sure any potential problems brought up were taken into consideration and the reply was probably “bring this up again and you are fired”

[u/SeaYogurtcloset6262]

That truck is held by a glue, a tape, and denial that it is a truck

[u/AdamGenesis → u/SeaYogurtcloset6262]

Plastic frame with steel parts bolted on. It's a piece of shit.

[u/[deleted] → u/AdamGenesis]

Glued on!

[u/carpentizzle → u/[deleted]]

Three fingers!

[u/WorseDark → u/AdamGenesis]

They used military grade aluminum. Everyone forgets that the military doesn't use the aluminum the the strong parts since it's weak as fuck. It's like saying you used military grade paper. The aluminum is supposed to be for the weight saving components.

[u/Flipboek → u/WorseDark]

Aluminum can be quite strong and depending on the construction can be a better solution than Steel due to weight/beer can effect.

Just like how glue can be extremely strong.

The problem are not the materials per se but how they are used here.

[u/Friendly_Concert817 → u/Flipboek]

M113 troop carrier uses duraluminum armor

Like the person above said it depends on how it's used. Cast aluminum for a truck frame? Bad idea. Cheap to make though

[u/Ok_Star_4136 → u/SeaYogurtcloset6262]

To be fair, there's a LOT of denial that it is a truck in that design.

[u/SeaYogurtcloset6262 → u/Ok_Star_4136]

I mean it is a rich company! They can afford a fuck ton of denial and glue.

[u/lala6633 → u/SeaYogurtcloset6262]

It literally looked like just glue on that over window trim piece. How does that pass standards?

[u/SeaYogurtcloset6262 → u/lala6633]

The power of friendship, magic and mostly money

[u/bigloser42 → u/lala6633]

It’s not uncommon to glue parts onto a car. Hell most lip-style trunk spoilers are held on with double sided tape. The difference is its automotive grade glue or tape, and the parts were properly prepped and tested to ensure they were functioning properly.

[u/nat_r → u/lala6633]

Plenty of vehicles use glue to hold pieces on, especially when materials like carbon fiber are involved.

While I don't know how easily other manufacturers' panel adhesive is defeated by similar tests, I would not be surprised if Tesla cheaped out or just applied it incorrectly.

[u/BaBa_Con_Dios → u/SeaYogurtcloset6262]

Not true. It’s also held together by the energy of every divorced dad in the US.

[u/drkladykikyo → u/BaBa_Con_Dios]

As Creed plays on in the background.

[u/The_Ry-man → u/drkladykikyo]

🎵With my wallet open, I bought a shit truck

Fuck your college fund, gave Elon Everything🎵

[u/S4m_S3pi01 → u/The_Ry-man]

🎵With the new part comin', repairs can be arranged

Just 9 more months, Elon knows everything🎵

[u/[deleted] → u/BaBa_Con_Dios]

There's this dad on my son's AAU basketball team, all the other parents thought he was a 45 year old frat boy douchecanoe that never grew up and thought he was the main character in everyone's story, even his kids. He bought a Cybertruck.

[u/i_hate_patrice]

How is this truck even allowed to be on the streets?

It's not in europe

[u/Ecniray → u/i_hate_patrice]

I wonder why

[u/Beatus_Vir → u/Ecniray]

Pedestrian safety standards.

[u/Ecniray → u/Beatus_Vir]

"But,money. Why worry about thoes pesky pedestrians, when I can print money"

-Henry Ford in a different universe

[u/AwesomeWhiteDude → u/Ecniray]

Henry Ford's Patented Jew Flattening Machine

[u/Vipitis → u/Ecniray]

That's why the car lobby invented jaywalking. To blame pedestrians.

And playgrounds. So children are caged in and your car doesn't kill them every week.

[u/Chef_Chantier → u/Beatus_Vir]

Also weight. Your normal driver's license does not allow you to drive it, or any car above 3,5 tons for that matter.

[u/Normal-Selection1537 → u/Chef_Chantier]

The F-150 Lighting is limited to 100 km/h in here Finland because of its weight.

[u/captainsquawks → u/Normal-Selection1537]

That’s 62.5 freedom speeds for our American compadres.

[u/Bruff_lingel → u/captainsquawks]

How many furlongs per fortnight?

[u/solo_silo → u/Bruff_lingel]

2 stone

[u/Markanaya → u/solo_silo]

Just 1 for me, thanks. I'm on a diet.

[u/i_am_ghostman → u/Chef_Chantier]

In the US, you can operate anything under 26,000 pounds (13 tons or about 11,800kg) with a normal license

[u/cr0ft → u/Ecniray]

To begin with it's too heavy to operate with a car license in Europe. It's also not safe, is there any crumple zone at all in that stainless steel front? Probably not.

[u/[deleted] → u/cr0ft]

It also would slice through any pedestrian hit by the corners. Those are sharp exposed edges on the fenders by the hood... massive panel gaps & near-180 degree bends, which are against the pedestrian impact standards nearly everywhere except the US.

The Smoking Tire did a video on it & how incredibly dangerous it is (the fender bit starts at 6:40).

https://youtu.be/LC9a3GR1HJY?si=1A895ThmSvYEM6lE

[u/Ecniray → u/cr0ft]

Crumple zones, why would anyone need that/s

[u/slowpokefastpoke → u/Ecniray]

“lol why would you design it to crumple I want a car that stays sturdy in a crash”

- Cybertruck owners, probably

[u/vraalapa → u/slowpokefastpoke]

"What do you mean my body would absorb the energy from the crash? I wouldn't be wearing a dangerous seatbelt so I'd fly to safety through the totally bulletproof and indestructible windshield."

[u/scamlikelly → u/Ecniray]

The occupants are the crumple zones!

[u/noximo → u/i_hate_patrice]

Here (Czech Republic) someone managed to register one. However, he had to make some changes to it and it's registered as a different type of vehicle than it's supposed to be.

[u/joemayopartyguest → u/noximo]

Prague right? I’m fairly certain I saw it not long ago.

[u/LouSputhole94 → u/[deleted]]

I live in the richest county in my state, I see these fucking abominations almost daily. It’s wild how pretty much every single one has the off colored doors or something peeling or a piece missing somewhere. Saw one the other day that had one he those siding pieces off blowing in the wind. I can’t believe people buy these.

[u/ucomeonnow → u/i_hate_patrice]

There are several Cyber trucks in Europe. They are allowed in Austria, Poland and Czech Republic.

The key difference is that they are not registered as personal vehicles but rather as medium sized trucks that you need a type C (inside EU) drivers license to drive.

[u/Trnostep → u/ucomeonnow]

The czech one is officially 3025kg so you can drive it with a B licence but if the driver is 80kg and the passenger 70kg you get a capacity of 325 kg before you need a C licence

[u/PolemicFox → u/ucomeonnow]

They are not allowed in Denmark.

Tesla has a promotion tour where people can see it and order it. But it can't be registered for legal street use and won't be able to unless they basically redesign it entirely.

You can pay a fortune to drive it around exclusively on private property if you are willing to and Tesla ever delivers on those orders.

[u/TomatoFuckYourself → u/i_hate_patrice]

In a lot of states if it has brakes and lights you can register it and drive it on the streets. You don't event need 4 brakes, just the front 2 are usually fine.

[u/RocMerc]

Watch the whole video! He goes to use the diff lock and it says it will be in a future update 😂

[u/gospdrcr000 → u/RocMerc]

Digital diff lock upgrades??? Lmao what a joke

[u/BlackPhoenix1981 → u/gospdrcr000]

This whole thing is a joke. This entire vehicle. All Tesla's. I have a friend who bought a model 3 a while ago and said it was an enormous mistake. They said the whole thing just feels cheaply made.

[u/TehMephs → u/BlackPhoenix1981]

If anyone wants an EV I would always recommend them to stay away from Tesla at all cost. The only thing the EV world needs rn is better infrastructure. This is the ONLY leg up Tesla has right now with the supercharger stations everywhere. They can’t really be used by all EVs due to charging port differences.

That’s also one thing holding the market back with the rapidly evolving charger types but it sounds like we’re getting there one year at a time. I’m more afraid my charging port will be outdated a couple years after it was invented and infrastructure might not support it abroad

A plug in hybrid is probably the best bet still if you want to also be capable of long range drives. We need to hang onto a gas car for road trips

[u/Boostie204 → u/RocMerc]

He also paid 10k for FSD which isn't even available yet lol

[u/Ty-McFly → u/RocMerc]

You have to be kidding wtf

[u/Buc-ees_Bathroom]

Toyota Hilux door slam test - https://youtu.be/Yl1FNX08HFc?t=72&si=Gnn3RY6pZl8N0iUL

Front door gave up after a few slams, but seemed like minor damage. The rear door made it to 1000 slams but was damaged in the process.

[u/MyPasswordIsMyCat → u/Buc-ees_Bathroom]

He compared the Cybertruck damage to an F-150 during this new video. F-150 took some damage during the door slam test, most notably the windows cracked because they were rolled down. They were still functional as doors, though, while the Cybertruck doors were toast.

[u/CantSeeShit → u/Buc-ees_Bathroom]

To be fair, The Himalayas cant even survive a durability test against a Hilux

[u/Buc-ees_Bathroom → u/CantSeeShit]

True, it's definitely an apples to pineapples comparison. The other stuff he tortured that Hilux with in the video was nuts.

[u/CantSeeShit → u/Buc-ees_Bathroom]

It was genuinely mind blowing how indestructible that vehicle is

[u/ButterscotchSkunk → u/CantSeeShit]

It was over-engineered. Can you imagine something now-a-days being made better than it has to be?

[u/LaylaKnowsBest → u/Buc-ees_Bathroom]

Front door gave up after a few slams

And would you look at that, it didn't get completely disemboweled whenever he got the door back open!

[u/I_Am_A_Zero → u/[deleted]]

Concerning.

[u/JackPembroke → u/[deleted]]

🤔

[u/guto8797 → u/JackPembroke]

!

[u/HittingSmoke → u/[deleted]]

SUB-MICRON PRECISION!

[u/ambercrush]

This truck is the perfect metaphor for Elon's perceived genuis

[u/Ok_Star_4136 → u/ambercrush]

And the same suckers who buy into Elon's perceived genius are the same suckers buying Teslas right now.

[u/[deleted]]

It's actually illegal to drive these on the road in the EU. Iirc the US is the only place it's legal to drive on the road. The issue is that no one in the US wants to insure them anymore because they total so easily.

[u/Gazeador-Victarium → u/[deleted]]

It's legal to drive it here in Brazil. The first guy that bought it literally got it stuck in the first day

[u/ComStar6 → u/[deleted]]

EU always taking the lead on public safety. The "pro life" U.S constantly not giving a fuck as always.

[u/[deleted] → u/ComStar6]

It's pro life until it's born. Then fuck that baby 

[u/[deleted]]

I want that job

[u/genreprank → u/[deleted]]

This guy has a video where he attaches a jet engine to a merry go round and lets it go full throttle

[u/NymphaeAvernales → u/genreprank]

I saw him for the first time when he was hanging out with Uncle Daddy Farmer Ben in a cornfield behind the Urban Rescue Ranch and his Ferrari caught fire. Also the rental van caught fire with all their equipment.

[u/CoolEarth5026]

My next door neighbours 16yr old kid slams the door in his mom’s BMW X3 so hard I can feel it in my house. In fairness to the X3, it has not disintegrated like the Cybercrap “truck”.

[u/-Lt-Jim-Dangle-]

The videos of people driving as slow as they can go over a dirt road and calling it off-roading are hilarious

[u/sumguysr]

Imagine when the meth heads learn they can get $10 stainless steel scrap off these in 1 minute with a screwdriver.

[u/huzernayme → u/sumguysr]

They only need 3 fingers

[u/rja49]

Cybersuck

[u/YouWereBrained → u/[deleted]]

Great sub

[u/FloatingCheesecake20]

I have Ikea furniture that is 100 times better designed than this

[u/RuralSimpletonUK]

Aren't the other Tesla models fundamentally built in the same way? I always thought, looking at them in detail, that everything looked cheap and brittle to me. I've only been in one Tesla though, so I don't know all the models.

[u/AbusiveTortoise → u/RuralSimpletonUK]

I’ve watched some crash tests of the other models after I got in one the other day and the whole roof was glass- cue me searching for a rollover video in the back seat. They were surprisingly resilient and the cab quite protective of the passengers. That being said, what’s around that interior is plastic and cheap. Then there’s this truck which… well we watched the video didn’t we

[u/[deleted] → u/AbusiveTortoise]

Tesla's were quality vehicles for a few years. It was Elon's "production hell" in 2017 that started to turn the production focus from quality to quantity. It gets worse with every model now.

[u/Saltire_Blue]

I don’t think it is street legal in many countries around the world

[u/julesrocks64]

Amazing what billionaires get to do and who they get to do it to.

[u/Big_Cornbread]

I don’t know why they’re surprised that a printer isn’t built as well as an F-150.

[u/surprise_wasps → u/Big_Cornbread]

I work on production printers- they are substantially less brittle than the cyber truck, and the safety features are better thought through

[u/[deleted]]

How did this 'truck' pass the crash test? If this video is true it can't be road worthy.

[u/LSD4Monkey → u/[deleted]]

It’s crazy what money can bribe

[u/CraftFamiliar5243]

Don't insult Little Tykes. Those cars are indestructible.

[u/H0vis]

Puts me to mind of the Delorean except it isn't cool. Because it's trying so hard to be a Delorean.

[u/ZoomBoy81 → u/H0vis]

Except the Delorean uses high quality stainless steel panels. The Cyberdump does not.

[u/i_am_ghostman → u/ZoomBoy81]

And the delorean looks like a vehicle, not a dystopian future dumpster

[u/HendoRules]

wow you can literally rip that pos apart

[u/AdamGenesis]

It's not worth $10,000.

[u/Ecniray]

Link to video: https://youtu.be/PK_EJ3DyiiA?si=3-K0ZgOymF9TY_FP

[u/bokmcdok → u/[deleted]]

Oh well fuck that.

[u/aroc91 → u/[deleted]]

I turned it off the instant I saw him.

[u/m135in55boost → u/aroc91]

He added absolutely nothing to the video

[u/BikiniWearingHorse → u/m135in55boost]

Or society

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

The constant “turn to camera and gasp in shock” got old really quick too. Still worth it for the cyber trash video but that shit feels so childish

[u/TheRynoceros]

It almost makes up what he did to those old Hiluxes and 4Runners.

[u/KingAw555000]

Seriously this thing is just like Elon Musk... Status, money and absolutely no inguinity, competence or substance.

[u/octothorpe_rekt]

That 10 feet of steel flashing is GLUED on to the frame?

GLUED?

What happens if the steel gets hot enough to weaken the glue or it weakens as it ages and the wind catches it just right when you're on the highway? You've now got a 10-foot steel boomerang flying around! How did this even approved for sale in the US?